Adoption and usage is most definitely related to the value, though, at least in the long term. Remember how Silk Road picked up in May? And of course it influences the value also because speculators gain more confidence as they see adoption increase. If they see the opposite, like from June to December, price will decrease. Or do you think a market cap of barely 40 million will satisfy a "mainstream" currency?  I could be naive in this, but to me, mainstream is when you see people using bitcoin on the streets. It doesn't matter if they use it once a month, for $1 a day only, all that matters is that they're using it. I have heard the ex-forex trading initiative here speak so verbosely about how the value of Bitcoin is directly related to the USD put into it, but that's just simply not true. If there are 1000 people willing to trade 1 BTC, then that 1000 people are the ones who set the value. Exchanges are the friend of Bitcoin's adoption and the enemy of its stability. EDIT: since there are many things about trading that are not my cup of tea, I don't want to pollute this thread with my lack of education on the matters. If we discuss this any deeper, let's start a new thread. |
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Well, you just did, and until I see anything more than hot air from you, my suspicion that you are just a hyper remains.
To think that you could make Bitcoin go mainstream within 2012 is a joke. Or perhaps you have a different definition of mainstream than me. Because if you don’t, you should be buying up all Bitcoins at the current rates, even if you have to take a loan, as well as anyone else who knows about your plans, because it would mean prices way beyond $1000 in 9 months max.
Currently, I do not see that crazy buying happening, so some or all of what you have said must be bullshit.
Sorry for the harsh language, but I hate this type of "announcement". We don’t need anymore penny stock behaviour.
Yes, you're right. Judging by your statement, mainstream to you is related to the spot value. Mainstream to me is about adoption and usage. |
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I expect to see Bitcoin go mainstream in 2012 thanks in part to some major investors of an invention of mine.
Also, when Bitcoin Magazine gets out in the air, it's going to start picking up some major glances and interests.
Sounds like the bullshit Bruce Wagner fed us. That's why I don't usually talk about it (or anything we do for that matter). I'll be ready to show more when it's ready though. Bruce is a hyper. All he does is use other people's skills and talents and pretend to be a leader. I actually have ideas and do most of the work to get them done. Our similarities stop at being publicly vocal individuals. |
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Fixed. Hasn't been migrated to new servers yet. Still using a dumpy VPS. |
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I offer to give Bitcoins away to friends and family. No takers.
I am pretty confident we are solving this problem inside the DCAO. I expect to see Bitcoin go mainstream in 2012 thanks in part to some major investors of an invention of mine. Also, when Bitcoin Magazine gets out in the air, it's going to start picking up some major glances and interests. |
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I've been reading up on that law. As an American citizen living in Korea, I do my homework on laws, but I have never heard of this law until now. If it comes into being, we will do everything legally possible to ensure our subscribers are not affected.
There are tens of thousands of laws in USA, around the world? May be even hundreds of thousands.... hehe. I meant relevant ones. Although I am fascinated by ridiculous laws like the one in my old hometown where it was made illegal to give a monkey a cigarette. Makes you wonder what chaos had to befall a monkey in order for that law to come into place. |
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This will only affect danish subscribers. I am one of those :/ I sure hope you send it in an envelope!!! I've been reading up on that law. As an American citizen living in Korea, I do my homework on laws, but I have never heard of this law until now. If it comes into being, we will do everything legally possible to ensure our subscribers are not affected. |
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Doesn't gavinandresen have a protocol fuzzer?
https://github.com/gavinandresen/bitcoin-git/tree/fuzzer... but it is pretty narrowly targeted at stress-testing the transaction validity code. Last year at the NYC conference I mentioned that I would really like to see somebody who knows a lot more about network simulation than I do develop tools to help test proposed protocol changes, simulate Sybil or DoS attacks, etc. I'd still really like to see that... You got it! |
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Awwwe, solopsist nihilists in love.
A: "I love you."
B: "We hardly even know who "you" are. Love is probably irrational, anyway. Not that it fucking matters. Fuck. Going to bed."
A: "Heh. You know, chaos has a bad reputation, but chaos is essential if we want to discover purpose, which I doubt exists beyond manifestations of the survival instinct which is hardly "purpose" in any meaningful sense. Anyway, there's no chance we'll find meaning by standing still. We need to think, do, or give up hope and die. Let's fuck."
B: "Why bother? You could be the creation of my imagination, and you know you're full of shit thinking fucking has any impact on the search for purpose. All it'll do is show whoever's controlling us (if anyone) we're acting on selfishness, which may's well be admission of being stupid as fuck in thinking our desires mean anything."
A: "Wow. Fuck you."
B: "Fuck you, too. Let's fuck."
Two minutes in....
A: "Why'd you stop?"
B: "Idunno. I don't want to do this anymore. If we want to be recognized by The Manipulator, we should kill ourselves to show him we recognize our uselessness."
A: "... I'll do it if you do - but Christ, let's fuck, first."
B: "... No." *B goes to the bathroom and locks himself in, feeling more useless than ever having acted on love and realizing its irrationality, and kills himself.*
*After a while, A figures B is probably dead and breaks the door open.*
A: "Hypocrite performs the most selfish action possible, leaving me here. Whatever, he's still hard." *A finishes her business, then kills herself, too*
As news of the incident spreads, BitcoinTalk is in heated debate over whether or not it's in bad taste to joke about the double-suicide, and a new question in the mining subforum pops up asking what $/kWh everyone pays.
This was gold. Also, Atlas, ever heard of a chatroom? And for someone with your beliefs, why would you even use the word "love"? Love doesn't exist. You're infatuated and obsessed with her. |
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The sad fact is
I see no benefit that can come from discussing them now.
Back and forth abandoned for lack of interest! The sad fact is his happiness is dependent on the degradation of my character. Such is the case for many figures on this forum and beyond.
I think you mean to say it gives him joy. I doubt anyone's happiness is dependent on you in any shape or form. You're not that important. |
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Also, I'll double OP's bounty for this instead  pay me! Not at home. Handle it soon. |
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I think most people don't have any problem with sharing bad ideas -- the real question is, do you care about humanity enough to share the good ones?
Oooo deep. |
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Matthew, I've rejected everything society has tried to shove down my throat; to say I am not self-aware is to say I rely on dogma. My philosophy is nearly set on anti-ideology. Look, you won't understand and it's fine.
You're smart. You're kind. You're special.
The fact you spent two paragraphs justifying your self-worth tells me all I need to know about you, Matt. Get some self-confidence. You don't have to prove squat to me.
Your narrowmindedness is a weakness Atlas. Your confidence is a good thing but you didn't even stop to think I enjoy talking? I can argue you to the grave. If that's what you "figured out" about me then good job! Also, for me personally, I think the biggest argument against my lifestyle is having too much self-confidence. Why are we even talking if everything we say abouf the other is so supposedly glaringly wrong? I call for a rematch later on. |
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Matthew, I'll put it simply:
I admire leaders, egoists and independent people.
You admire outcasts. It's a teenager thing. You like to surround yourself with people who constantly desire approval and guidance.
Actually I'm a challenge junkie who loves discovering people more intelligent and skilled than myself and helping them be more useful while learning how to be more useful myself. Take Vladimir Marchenko for example. He knows way more about information and network security than me. He had to babystep me through using an SSH tunnel. Why would I want to be around someone like him unless it was because I want to know what he knows and do what he does? I'm pretty sure that applies to the majority of people I spend my time with. The reasoning behind not only working with people who know more than me (like when I gave you a chance to prove some of your ideas as well) is because I enjoy discovering and creating opportunities. I'll be dead soon no doubt, and the only thing that gets me out of bed everyday is the chance to do something bigger and better than yesterday. I'm a true and natural engineer. I am a teacher and a leader wherever I go, even when I'm the least qualified-- in which case I found themost qualified and put them in charge. People like me are essential to companies, schools, and militias. We are ready to die for a dream, but also eager to know why that dream might not be worth dying for. It's called being self aware Atlas. People have made fun of you for not being self aware. I think I am the perfect person with the perfect experiences to be telling you this. Our philosophies are vastly different and I accept that. As for describing my political philosophy, your assumptions are so far out-of-reality that I see no point in correcting you. If you're genuinely interested in what I have to say, I'll happily try having a discussion with you.
I have no philosophy dictated by books of other people who have actually lived so you'll certainly know more than me when arguing philosophies. Unfortunately, I'm not alive to prove other people wrong-- that's just an entertaining passtime-- I'm alive to be useful. I consider philosophy useless. May I remind you, you are nowhere near a savant when it comes to people and this is based on reality. Your choices you made regarding Goat were far from clean and mature. You are in no place to mentor anyone in this field.
Au contrare, I knew my mistakes right when I made them. I learned from them and won't be making them again. I'm therefor first hand experienced in the matter. |
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CornedBeefHash, I listen to people very well. To do otherwise is not in my best-interest.
I am just not tactful. I speak my mind and people take it as a lack of respect. I speak my mind and question what is said even what is being sound is mostly sound.
My view is that they should be confident enough not to require my reverence. In essence, I like to treat people like gods: Powerful people that can stand on their own two feet without my compliance and conformity.
Not related to respect, grasping why things won't work quickly, admitting it won't work that way, then correcting the direction yourself is what builds 'reverence'. I call it humility, but I'm sure engineers call it common sense. Your major problem is that you try to get involved nonchalantly into politics without the slightest bit of sense for what people want. All the chest thumping and anti-establishmentarianism from you does no good if you talk and act the same as a kindergartener with no self control or humility. Now, I bet you might argue that you don't care what people think, but that basically means you have no business in politics. People who have passion for change, hate the system, and yet don't care what othes want are called self-serving activists. 9-11 was an act of self serving activism. |
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Good things come to those who wait!
Like cancer and death! |
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It's a popularity contest not a singing competition so odds are highly against me for winning. That doesn't mean I can't use the opportunity somehow. Any ideas?
First things that come to mind:
1) Bitcoin T-shirt during auditions (tacky)
2) Pay Bitcoins for SMS voters
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Hey, least I’d trust you to park my car. Hell, I’d let you borrow it but I wouldn’t expect it back for a few days and I’d have to clean the apple juice and hooker drool off the back seat. LOL
Congratulations on such a loaded statement. I won't begin to explain the possible meanings. |
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Your assistance with Litecoins progress alone should have been enough to remove that label.
Heh, Luke-jr would prefer that all litecoiners be labeled scammers  Of course he does. Does that surprise you? He’s a fraternity elitist scumbag that thinks only he has the correct answer to all of life’s problems and a cold calculating manipulator that will use everything at this disposal to get his own way. I wouldn’t trust him to park my car if he was working as a valet. His Git hub profile pic makes him look like hes twacked on on meth! Well that's nothing, my everything-profile-pic makes me look like I'm hopped up on goofballs. But you are a magazine editor! that is normal for your chosen profession! I wonder if you were able to keep a straight face when you said "profession" in relation to me. |
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