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4981  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 19, 2023, 08:55:14 AM
Graham Potter is still without club now. I thought he shouldn't have been signed by Chelsea in the first place as I saw it as a risk. Because Chelsea can be much more successful with managers who have at least a decent experience with big teams in Europe. Potter wasn't such manager so it is normal to have doubts about him.

I'm afraid he couldn't prove me wrong about this and his time was a big failure. I think he should go back to managing average teams in the league. I'm not saying this to belittle him of course. I'm saying it because he is much more successful with such teams. We have all seen how good he was with Brighton in the end.
Certainly no team will want to sign Graham Potter after seeing the poor results he got with Chelsea this season and it's no wonder that until now he hasn't gotten a call to become a coach. But he's also not entirely wrong because of course as a coach who was successful in his initial debut, of course if there was an offer from a bigger team he would take it, it's just that at Chelsea the results weren't what he expected and it simultaneously destroyed his career in an instant. Potter should have had to return to managing an average team and at least he proved it first in one full season or several seasons to be able to bring the team to a better place.
4982  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 19, 2023, 08:45:56 AM
Mbappe is almost a brand face for France and France does not want to send him. Mbappe's transfer seems to have reached a dead end. Let's see if Macron will step in to keep the French superstar back in the country and convince Mbappe again as he has done before despite Real Madrid's intense interest in him. If Mbappe is not convinced the transfer must be concluded before his contract expires otherwise there will be no profit for PSG. Real Madrid seems certain to make a transfer move for Mbappe after Karim Benzema's transfer to Saudi Arabia and Mbappe will fill Benzema's place a lot. Regardless Madrid is ready to pay 200 million euros for him and PSG should consider transferring Mbappe to Madrid instead of persuading him.

Real Madrid don't need to pay that much money right now, they'd better wait a bit and propose to Mbappe in January 2024 when Mbappe becomes a free agent. For PSG, this is not the best option as they could be left without money and without Mbappe, but they will have time to convince him to extend his contract and thus keep this talented player. Real Madrid are already stepping up their attack and of course they would like to have Mbappe in their team, but apparently this is not a priority right now.
Yeah I think a year won't seem that long now and it's going by so fast. At the same time PSG really want to sell Mbappe after they know that Mbappe does not want to extend the contract and PSG's only hope is that Real Madrid has the possibility to buy Mbappe at the end of this season.

But it seems that PSG's hopes are now in vain because Real Madrid have closed the transfer door for the summer and their latest recruit is Joselu. We will see that Joselu will be the foundation of Real Madrid for the next season and if he is consistent with Real Madrid then Florentino Perez will not hesitate to buy his clause from Espanyol.
4983  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 19, 2023, 08:04:54 AM
I think Luis Enrique is a good and experienced coach. Moreover, it would be a shame if his career did not shine again after being fired as coach of the Spanish national team after the 2022 world cup was over. I hope that later, if he is elected as PSG coach, he can bring Mbappe and his colleagues back to consistent performance in all competitions.
It's hard to understand what PSG's management is thinking, they really want to make PSG a club that can win European competition by forming a squad full of great players, but they have never succeeded in bringing in a great coach. PSG very often change coaches when their goals are not achieved, Ligue 1 is like breakfast for PSG, almost every year they are able to win the trophy.

Appointing Galtier as coach was a mistake made by PSG, now they have fired him again after failing to bring PSG to victory in the Champions League. The experience that Luis Enrique has can help PSG achieve its goals, the philosophy that Enrique uses can form PSG into a team that is consistent in all competitions. PSG management must learn from what Real Madrid and Manchester City have done, to achieve success does not only rely on the quality of the squad, but the coaching factor is very supportive.
That's right, I really like your thoughts on PSG and we can't deny that one of PSG's failures is the frequent change of coaches. PSG doesn't want to proceed like other teams that have been very successful in winning the Champions League and if Luis Enrique's arrival can change all that, I think PSG will have to give long enough time so that PSG's target can be achieved to win the Champions League for the first time.

Luis Enrique is one of the successful coaches of the 21st century and has proven to be able to bring Barcelona to win everything from season 14/15 to 16/17 including also presenting 1 UCL trophy. I think now it's just how the management of PSG manages it and if they are ready to win the champions league title of course they have to be ready with a long term coach project.
4984  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Friendly Match is Hard to Predict on: June 19, 2023, 07:52:20 AM


We'll see ddds for Argentina, only @1.03, it's even very small and won't make a lot of money, on the other hand, the odds for Indonesia to get @25.00 and that's very big, there are so many draws with odds @15.00, but anyway, it's impossible Indonesia will win or draw. So I think for sure taking over 4 goals will make more decent money at odds @1.55 because either way both teams or even with the depth of the Argentinian squad themselves can do more than 4 goals.
And today the odds have changed a lot for Indonesia to @35.00 and @1.02 for Argentina, if you want to keep betting on this match that isn't serious maybe you can choose another market such as the number of goals over 4. But I don't think Argentina will try to be able to score a lot goals in this match and Indonesia also has the opportunity to score goals, so my prediction will only end 3-1 or 4-1 so over 4 with the actual odds is also not very attractive @ 1.5 is enough because it's impossible for the match to end in a draw and choose Argentina on the money line is more unpleasant.
It is certain that Argentina will not be too serious in a match like this but Indonesia will definitely be very serious to face Argentina. Maybe the problem is that Indonesia is able to score goals or not and if a goal is scored from the Argentinian side it is likely that my target of over 4 goals will not be achieved. But I found the latest news saying that the chairman of the Indonesian football association will give bonuses to his players if Indonesia can later draw against Argentina. I think these words will motivate Indonesian players to be able to score goals against Emi Martinez.

So I think the result of over 4 goals is not bad and for sure both countries will attack each other to score a lot of goals. But since this is a friendly match I don't want to take it too seriously to live up to my expectations and I consider this as an entertainment bet for small money. Grin
4985  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 19, 2023, 07:41:17 AM
Last season was indeed a bad one for the Old Ladies of Turin because of the court decisions that went against them and that is also why they'll not be playing in the UEFA Champions League competition come next season.
The point deduction is now a thing of the past but the club's management needs to be careful in involving themselves in similar dealings that led to the point deduction and also the players of the club must step up and take the club to where they belong once again
Juventus experienced ups and downs last season and I really applaud their fortitude in dealing with these problems. Actually, deducting points isn't entirely bad, but it can't be said to be good either, because there is something even scarier, namely having to go down to Serie B if the problem proves to be so severe. Luckily Juventus don't lose their chance in Serie A next season and they can still compete again with other top teams to fight for the Scudetto. The only thing they regret is of course the Champions League place next season and they must be willing to play in Europe's lowest competition, namely the Conference League.
In fact, the internal problems faced by the Juventus team, such as the reduction in points that occurred last season, greatly affected their performance.
If you look at the games they had last season and the players in their squad I don't think it's too bad, and they also made it to the semi-finals in the Europa League.
But it's a shame that the Juventus team couldn't finish in the top 4 positions, maybe next season they will be very focused on Serie A alone to be able to compete strictly for the Scudetto again.
Now several Serie A teams have started to wake up and perform much better, Serie A is much more competitive and the same goes for teams who want to compete for the Scudetto, they must be able to improve even more.
Juventus' failure in the European league must have been very painful because they were one step away from reaching the final round. But Allegri's troops will not dissolve in sadness and they will eventually rise in Serie A even though they failed to secure a place in the champions league. I think it is true that Juventus will only focus on Serie A because even the conference league will not interest Juventus too much to be serious in this competition and the only important thing is to win the Scudetto again or finish in the top 4 again which they lost. But not only that, at least Juventus have to get new players so they won't be left behind by other teams who are currently also in the hunt for players.
4986  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 19, 2023, 07:30:21 AM
Despite the fact that Mudryk hasn't gotten as much playing times as people who had known his football prowess on the pitch before he arrived at Stamford Bridge would wish, I'm of the opinion that Mudryk is a great talented player that still possess the potentials to pick up himself and become the great footballer many of his folks would wish to see him be.
I think the player's major problem last season was the fact that he wasn't familiar with the kind of playing style that was adopted by the managers of Chelsea last season. Chelsea now has a new manager in Mauricio Pochettino and hopefully his style of play will give Mudryk that freedom to operate as an attacking midfielder that he is.

Of course Mudryk is a nice talent. But he was also similar to his teammates in terms of performance this season. But the general morale of the team was pretty bad and I wouldn't be surprised if his morale was at a bad level as well. If Pochettino's game plan works for Chelsea and we see a significant improvement then we will see who is really showing a solid performance.

I hope Mudryk also makes a big improvement in time because he was signed for quite a big amount of money. I wouldn't like to see him getting wasted like that. He is still very young and he has a long time ahead of him to put much more into his game.
Mudryk's performance this season has been very disappointing, especially for blues fans. It was unexpected after competing with Arsenal for Mudryk last winter and the results were so unexpected that Mudryk was not even able to contribute 1 goal during the middle of the season. Surely what Chelsea are hoping for will be worth the money they spent to get it, but surely Todd Boehly will be a little disappointed with one of his signings. There is hope for Mudryk next season and he is required to be able to provide good performance and comprehensive contribution to Chelsea.
4987  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 19, 2023, 02:20:44 AM


Source: Transfermarkt

PSG finally started moving to get a new coach before next season started and their choice fell on the former coach of the Spanish national team, namely Luis Enrique. His name was linked with Chelsea before finally it was Pochettino who officially became Chelsea coach. After terminating the contract with Galtier, PSG finally started to get a new coach candidate.

I think Luis Enrique is a good and experienced coach. Moreover, it would be a shame if his career did not shine again after being fired as coach of the Spanish national team after the 2022 world cup was over. I hope that later, if he is elected as PSG coach, he can bring Mbappe and his colleagues back to consistent performance in all competitions.
4988  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: June 19, 2023, 01:52:35 AM
The reality is sometimes not that simple. Being able to compete or not, of course, must be seen from a number of actual conditions, even if the players make a sizable contribution but must pay attention to other conditions.
This season is proof that conditions other than players have an effect because Bayern's conditions this season actually provide something different and are quite tense, especially when competition is held even until the match ends.
But it all comes back the same in the end, saying Dortmund can compete or not at the moment it seems with their conditions, they are only focused on second place and nothing else can really be done when Bayern really get back to their good form.
The only thing Dortmund can achieve is to finish just behind Bayern Munich and that has been going on since the 18/19 season. It has been very consistent for Dortmund and they have repeatedly failed to win the bundesliga title in that time interval. Dortmund will always be able to compete with Bayern Munich and this is a fact in plain sight. I think it's just a matter of next season whether Dortmund will continue to consistently occupy second place or manage to break the curse and become the Bundesliga champion, only time can tell.
4989  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: $500k parlay win $0 withdrawal on: June 19, 2023, 01:34:21 AM
Could’ve cashed out nearly 500k but I wanted to make 1m  Undecided
Do not be greedy, you have won big, it is better you just withdraw the money and use it for something good. If what you used it for it profitable, use just 5% or less of the profit on gambling. If you want to go for $1m, the betting can be lost at anytime as you will want to stake all the money to win again and again. Or maybe only one time betting remain, but I will advice your to use the money for something that can give you more money to gamble.
Greed is almost everyone's nature and especially if a bettor has this trait, it will be very difficult to get rid of. Bettors will not stop spending their money in gambling and all we know about it. I think the cash out option now is the best way to secure a bet with big money and if it doesn't reach $1 million later there will be deep resentment. It is better if the money from the bet is saved or used for other things such as vacations to calm the mind. However, if he persists in his choice, of course he will accept the end result either win or lose.
4990  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Nations League final four ⚽ on: June 19, 2023, 01:19:52 AM
Congratulations to Italy who managed to get third place and congratulations also to Spain who finally won the nation league this season through a very exciting match. It must be admitted that this time Italy is still slightly above the Netherlands in terms of winning mentality and I think Italy really deserved this victory. In the final place we know that both Spain and Croatia only drew 0-0 until 90 minutes and in extra time the result did not change which meant that it had to be decided on penalties.

Unfortunately Croatia failed to win the title this season after two of their players missed the penalty and Carvajal who was the decisive kicker from Spain did his job well with a panenka shot. I'm actually quite sad to see that Luka Modric still can't win the international competition title for Croatia, but I hope he won't be sad for a long time.
4991  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 18, 2023, 01:29:12 PM
Last season was indeed a bad one for the Old Ladies of Turin because of the court decisions that went against them and that is also why they'll not be playing in the UEFA Champions League competition come next season.
The point deduction is now a thing of the past but the club's management needs to be careful in involving themselves in similar dealings that led to the point deduction and also the players of the club must step up and take the club to where they belong once again
Juventus experienced ups and downs last season and I really applaud their fortitude in dealing with these problems. Actually, deducting points isn't entirely bad, but it can't be said to be good either, because there is something even scarier, namely having to go down to Serie B if the problem proves to be so severe. Luckily Juventus don't lose their chance in Serie A next season and they can still compete again with other top teams to fight for the Scudetto. The only thing they regret is of course the Champions League place next season and they must be willing to play in Europe's lowest competition, namely the Conference League.
4992  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 18, 2023, 01:19:00 PM
However I don't know what goes around Ancelotti's mind. He has one more year on his contract with Real Madrid. Maybe he would think of staying for that season as well and lead this team to get stronger with new additions in the summer.
That news was only coming from brazillian's side, but it's not coming from ancelotti itself. Ancelotti prefers to stay in real madrid rather than going to the brazil.
Ancelotti stays here for another season.
I think the media are running out of material for news so they are still reporting the obvious and that won't change until Ancelotti's contract expires next year with Real Madrid. I know that Brazil really wants Ancelotti as national team coach but he is adamant that he will stay and complete his job as coach of the Whites until his contract expires. It's a bit strange even though Ancelotti doesn't necessarily want to be the coach of the Brazilian national team but for some reason it seems as if Ancelotti agreed to do the deal.
4993  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 18, 2023, 12:51:54 PM
Crazy how Arsenal really want to sign Declan Rice, I think it's too much if they need to spend more than 100 Million Euros because according to Arsenal big transfers [1] those players aren't show good performance like when they were in their previous clubs.

Nicolas Pepe, Aubameyang, Ben White and Alexandre Lacazette, they're failed transfers.

I would also agree that a club should never pay significantly more money as a transfer fee for a player than his current market value. Declan Rice hasca value of 80 Million € at the moment as far as i know, so it would be really stupid in my opinion if Arsenal would make another offer with even more money than those 100 M€ or so that they have already offered for him.
FC Chelsea was even worse, they have paid over 100 M€ for Fernandez in the winter.
It must be admitted that Chelsea is an important team figure that has damaged the market value of players and of course this will be followed by other teams that have talented players like Declan Rice who will be sold at high costs because Arsenal are interested in signing him. I'm not surprised things like this will continue if the team always agrees to offers that are not reasonable and it is possible that the transfer fee for one talented player at the age of 19 to 25 will exceed 200 million euros in the next few seasons. I think that at the same time it will pay an unreasonable price for some players who have not proven to be able to contribute much in a big competition and win titles.
4994  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 18, 2023, 12:35:23 PM
Pep Guardiola always uses tight pressing to find box to box gaps for his players to be able to achieve precise attacks and that is why Manchester City can win the Champions League this season. Xavi must immediately evolve with his players so as not to be left behind by his competitors, especially Real Madrid, who will not be playing anymore to be able to win the Champions League title again.

What works for Pep Guardiola might not necessarily work for Xavi if he can’t employ the strategy very well. Anyone can have a different approach in the style of play in the field and it’ll work for them both. What is more necessary is to be able to use your strategy well and also be able to counter your opponents strategy when they come striking (attacking) at you back. I don’t see anything wrong with Xavi’s coaching style, he just needs to know how to use it well in the champions league game too.
Indeed, there is nothing wrong with Xavi's strategy, but sometimes it is quite difficult to win, and they have only been able to score an average of 1 winning goal in every domestic league match this season. Therefore barcelona will only be able to master Spain and for the champions league competition they are still not able to be consistent.

I think if barcelona is still in the same form as last season then there will be no change for the champions league next season. It has been proven that Barcelona really needs new players to be able to rotate their players in order to get better results, but we also know that this club is also in financial trouble, so that is quite impossible to do.
4995  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2022/2023 on: June 18, 2023, 12:15:41 PM
Al-Nassr is reportedly interested in bringing in two Chelsea players namely Hakim Ziyech and Aubameyang. It seems that Al-Nassr is not quite satisfied after successfully bringing in Ronaldo last season. Al-Nassr really wants a star-studded squad starting next season and they don't hesitate to shell out huge sums of money to give these European players fantastic wages per season. Currently negotiations are underway according to Fabrizio Romano and we are still waiting for clarity on the offer made by Al-Nassr from salary to how many season contracts for the two Chelsea players.

Source: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1670019244543680512?cxt=HHwWgIC98fPpjK0uAAAA
I believe that the Saudi clubs know what they are doing,they want to pump their funds into football and make their league very interesting and have the whole world attention on them. They have started buying more players from different strong clubs to make their league noticeable and competitive.

They have all the money to buy any player that they want but they first started with buying Ronaldo as to make other players have the thought of joining this superstar over their with good offer. I am not surprised at this news because I am still expecting more quality players to go to SPL.
Sometimes there has to be a good example to be able to attract the attention of other European players and luckily Al-Nassr managed to bring in one of the GOATs last winter, namely Cristiano Ronaldo. With this, we can also find out how Ronaldo thinks about the Saudi league during his career and when other players want to find this information, Ronaldo will certainly be the one who gives the green light to other European players to have a career in the Saudi league.

It is undeniable that the charm of the salary offered by several Saudi league teams is indeed fantastic and it will be a mutually beneficial collaboration between clubs and players. Maybe Ronaldo has now increased to Benzema and we don't know which other European players will come, but what is clear is that there will definitely be. I hope the negotiation process with Ziyech and Aubameyang will go smoothly because I think these two players have lost their place in Europe.
4996  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 18, 2023, 12:05:03 PM
now, after fc granada and ud las palmas, the third and last promotion to the next la liga season is fixed.
in a dramatic second leg at ud lavente last night, deportivo alaves celebrated promotion to the highest spanish league after a year of abstinence. the winning goal was scored in the 120th +9th minute (the first leg ended 0-0). otherwise, a draw after 90 plus 120 minutes would have seen levante promoted as the better-placed club from the regular season.
Even though I didn't watch the match, if I saw the only goal scored in extra time, it would certainly make all Alaves fans very excited and never stop celebrating the goal. It's a shame what Levante experienced even though the second leg was taking place at their home ground, but with the aggregate still being a draw in the first leg this was an extraordinary opportunity for Alaves to topple the hosts. Alaves returns to La Liga in the 23/24 season after they were relegated in the 21/22 season and this is certainly something fans have been waiting for to be able to see their favorite team compete in the Spanish highest competition.
4997  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 18, 2023, 11:43:38 AM
It will definitely be quite tough for Pochettino to be able to handle Chelsea as a new coach and his challenge is to change everything that was bad during the last season to make next season a better one. We know very well that this is not easy, especially even though Pochettino who is the coach will still need a lot of time. I also can't wait to see Pochettino's performance next season and hope he can win in his initial debut with Chelsea. Maybe we will also wait for some important updates regarding the players who will be included in the list.
At the very least, the season has been completed, and Chelsea will have more time to map out the areas in which they failed to develop. They began releasing players from the club. Todd Boehly's time is essentially non-existent; he's desperate for good results; he has to settle down and provide more time to the newly hired coach. Pochettino may not make a good impression in his first game as manager, but he is eager to rebuild the team after meeting it in low shape. Mauricio Pochettino is the new manager, and we anticipate new and solid projects from him. Chelsea is in disarray this season and will most likely return to winning form next season.
Chelsea are indeed lacking in mapping out areas of development and I think that will be one of the focuses for Pochettino to fix that. It looks like there will be 25% of players who will leave Chelsea in the summer because of a new offer or Pochettino does not need this player in his playing scheme. Indeed it will be a quite difficult phase for Pochettino because in the opening game next season they have to play Liverpool and this will be a big game. I'm not quite sure because chelsea's opponent is Liverpool and I would probably prefer to bet on Liverpool winning.
4998  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: June 18, 2023, 05:21:06 AM
Kylian Mbappe's contract with Paris Saint Germaine makes doesn't allow PSG to extend his contract without his permission and that's the main problem at the club right now because Mbappe has refused to extend his contract.
It now left for PSG management to keep him at the club till when his contract expires by 2024 summer and watch him leave the French capital for free or sell him this summer and make money from his sale. It's actually a big decision to make at the moment for the club's management considering the amount of key players that's left the club this summer

We know that PSG will lose around $200 million if they don't make the right decisions so far there are 2 clubs that are really interested in signing Mbappe
Manchester United and Madrid are the most serious when they release Benzema it means they need someone new to take on Benzema's role. This transfer drama is not as easy as we imagine there are several aspects to consider.
Indeed, that is the reality and of course this amount of money is not small for Kylian Mbappe. Therefore PSG is desperate to sell Mbappe if he doesn't want to extend his contract immediately. On the other hand, this transfer drama will not end if it is linked to Real Madrid and maybe we will be able to find out next year, but for now it seems that Mbappe is not a priority for Real Madrid. We will also see how much PSG will lose if in the end Mbappe goes to Real Madrid as a free agent. Maybe it will be big news over the next year.
4999  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Nations League final four ⚽ on: June 18, 2023, 05:12:29 AM
Let me guess which club will win between the Netherlands vs Italy, to be honest my guess is Netherlands will secure the third-place spot rather than Italy, although on paper Italy is ahead when against Netherlands. I mean the Netherlands is winless in their last 7 matches against Italy, it's proven that Italy is ahead at there, but this match will be played at De Grolsch Veste, so at home there is still a chance for the Netherlands to win this match. But somehow I'm doubt to bet on Netherlands, I personally would probably choose both teams to score, because the odds are not too bad currently @1.62.
It's true that Italy is quite ahead of the Netherlands and I think Italy can still achieve the expectation of reaching that third place. Regarding the predictions for the match between these two countries, I think it is quite difficult to determine the result, but what is clear is that the two of them will not remain silent and will definitely score goals with each other. Your bet choice is very correct and there is no doubt that later it is possible that the match will end 2-1 regardless of who will win it. I think it's time for the Netherlands or Italy to prove that in next year's competition both of them will become one of the next nations league champions.
5000  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 18, 2023, 04:56:11 AM
Currently Juventus is still actively negotiating with several clubs to add to their squad one of them is a young player from Chelsea Cesare Casadei
This player is in the spotlight after becoming the top scorer World Cup U20  even though Juventus had been eyeing him for several years
this season Juventus is not too busy because they are out of the champions league meaning Juventus will be more focused on Serie A.
Cesare Casadei is a young player who brought Italy U20 to reach the final of the U20 world cup against Uruguay. But unfortunately Casadei's steps with his colleagues had to stop and failed to win the U20 world cup trophy. Juventus seem to really like the youngster's style of play and moreover Casadei is Italian so it will be easier to persuade him to join Juventus. Surprisingly Casadei is a midfielder but was the top scorer in that U20 world cup and I think he will be a future star if he continues to be consistent. Currently, Chelsea is still in the stage of building a team and it is not certain that he will be included in the list of choices for the new Chelsea coach and the choice for Juventus will be interesting because it is certain that he will become a starter or supersub.
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