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501  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Yet another GPU miner release! [YAC] on: June 25, 2013, 09:24:50 PM
So it appears we'll have to all stop mining for awhile and let a few unprofitable bagholders hang on until the difficulty adjusts back down a level that matches the negligable reward
502  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Confirmation: PowerCoin was 51% attacked on: June 24, 2013, 10:59:26 PM
So let's be clear:

1.  PWC, with the new checkpoints, is perfectly valid.  Anyone can mine it.  Anyone can use it.  It will, like the other 40 or so low hash rate coins, remain vulnerable to further 51% attacks

2.  An attacker was able to steal coins from Cryptsy using an exploit where they deposited coins on a forked block chain and then proceeded to withdraw those coins on a real blockchain

3.  Vern has fixed the vulnerability in #2 but does not have sufficient PWC to pay everyone their full balance

While this particular attack is unlikely to occur again, a far more common one is far an attacker to do a 51% attack, deposit coins to an exchange, immediately convert to BTC, and then withdraw the BTC.  That attack is easier to pull off and much harder for an exchange to protect against.

Anyone trading alt coins on an exchange needs to be aware coins can effectively be stolen from an exchange in this manner resulting in a loss of capital for the traders.  That is why there are very few exchanges that allow low hash rate coins to be traded.

503  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] Yet another GPU miner release! [YAC] on: June 24, 2013, 02:57:32 PM
Great work.  Let's try to keep this on the low for awhile - last thing we want is for massive GPU farms to rush in and crush profitability
504  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [[25K LTC for 6990]] WTS MSI HD Radeon 6990 for LTC [CLOSED] on: June 23, 2013, 04:43:02 AM
We do need to consider how much LTC that 6990 could have mined between then and now
505  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SIC] Sifcoin - inflation fork on: June 23, 2013, 04:39:06 AM
Suggest we rename this to Inflation Coin
506  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Announcing Alphacoin - the newest altcoin has arrived!! on: June 23, 2013, 04:37:22 AM
507  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Litecoin ASIC?!?! on: June 23, 2013, 03:33:19 AM
Just a large GPU farm

Remember that in the bitcoin world ASICS are cranking out 25 gh/s per unit

You know ASICS have arrived when you see one miner with more capacity than the entire network previously had

In the case of Litecoin, the network is 20 gh/s so 135 mh/s is quite literally nothing.  Drop in the bucket
508  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][DGC][FBD] Free Bank of Digitalcoin ~ Risk Averse DGC Investments on: June 23, 2013, 03:05:57 AM
fenican, I will try to explain it again, anybody feel free to correct me please.

10 shareholders give 100DGC each so the bank has now 100*10=1000DGC to borrow
You pay 1BTC+0.05BTC fee for 1000DGC and you can have it back 1BTC for 100DGC for let's say, 1 week

DGC rate goes up:
You sell it on exchange because you can now get more than 1BTC

DGC rate does down within 1 week:
You can get 1BTC back from the bank

Now please explain how shareholders lose because I cannot see it, they still have 1000DGC (initial investment) + 0.05BTC

If DGC goes up, the buyer will NOT be returning any DGC to the bank.  To make shareholders whole, the bank will then need to acquire additional DGC at a higher rate incurring a loss to the bank or the bank will need to return less DGC to the shareholder.

This is a zero sum game.  A bank and its shareholders cannot guarantee a speculator a profit without incurring counter-party risk.  

This is a proof by inspection problem that, absent some profoundly huge fees (an option premium), the bank and its shareholders will lose money over time

They are essentially writing a call option with no option premium.  Nobody in the investment community does that because it is a money losing proposition.  Why do you think there are no similar services for Gold or Silver?  Except for an outright scam, a company would be out of its mind to guarantee cash refunds on purchase of a highly speculative investment.

If this goes live, just buy 100% of the bank's DGC and then dump it on an exchange if the price goes up.  Free money for you.  Bad day for someone else.

509  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][DGC][FBD] Free Bank of Digitalcoin ~ Risk Averse DGC Investments on: June 23, 2013, 01:06:46 AM
Look I trade options very regularly.  I cannot express in words how bad of a value proposition this is for the bank.  They are guaranteeing speculators a profit.

I'll buy all the DGC they have FOR THE LIMIT please.  Put me first in line.
510  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][DGC][FBD] Free Bank of Digitalcoin ~ Risk Averse DGC Investments on: June 23, 2013, 01:05:49 AM
let me be more clear - the pawn shop owner is assuming 100% of the risk if the asset declines in value while, in exchange, getting NONE OF THE UPSIDE.

That has enormous negative value.  It is like selling a call option to someone with no premium.  Every investor on the planet would be lined up around the block to take the free option.
511  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][DGC][FBD] Free Bank of Digitalcoin ~ Risk Averse DGC Investments on: June 23, 2013, 01:01:41 AM
So highlighting the error.  Everyone assumes that the bank can simply "mint" $1,000 of DGC out of thin air while holding onto the $1,000 in deposits as an escrow.

Hence, they assume the bank incurs no loss since it can just return the $1,000.

What people ignore is how the bank gets the DGC.  They can't just mint it.  The bank needs to buy a large quantity of DGC at market value or, more likely, it would need to buy the DGC using the capital provided by the buyer.

Hence, the bank NO LONGER HAS THE $1,000 since it HAD TO BUY THE DGC WITH IT.

Hence, when DGC crashes and the buyer comes back for his refund the bank has to come up with $1,000 out of pocket.  If the DGC they buy with it is only worth $1, admittedly an extreme case, the bank just lose $999
512  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][DGC][FBD] Free Bank of Digitalcoin ~ Risk Averse DGC Investments on: June 23, 2013, 12:56:05 AM
There's no reason for him to go bankrupt. He just ceases making money on gold, which is why he wouldn't do it.

The pawn shop can't mint gold.  He has to buy it at market and, with that scheme, he would be guaranteed to lose money every time someone returns it.

Simple economics.  If you guarantee a counter-party will always break even or make a USD profit, you incur the USD loss if the asset goes down in value.

If Gold goes from $1400 an ounce to $1 an ounce, admittedly an extreme example, the pawn shop owner ends up buying back a near worthless asset with hard currency.  He didn't acquire that asset for free - he had to buy it (!!!)

The error in assumption everyone is making here is they assume DGC is free for the bank.  That is NOT the case the bank needs to acquire DGC on an exchange for USD or BTC
513  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][DGC][FBD] Free Bank of Digitalcoin ~ Risk Averse DGC Investments on: June 23, 2013, 12:52:19 AM
Look guys I hate to burst the bubble on this but it is just simple economics.

Consider the case of a pawn shop owner who gets the great idea that he can sell more physical gold if he guarantees to always buy it back for the purchase price ...

Oops.  Welcome to bankruptcy, Mr. Pawn Shop owner.
514  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][DGC][FBD] Free Bank of Digitalcoin ~ Risk Averse DGC Investments on: June 23, 2013, 12:50:05 AM
This does not work.  The bank will get crushed if DGC falls in value.

Simply put, the bank is guaranteeing a counter-party a profit while assuming all of the downside risk.  If DGC falls, the bank will end up holding the same quantity of an asset that is now much less valuable.

it is still the same amount in dgc so there is no "loss"

Any value DGC has at this point in time is relative to its BTC or USD exchange rate.  Believe me if you buy $10k worth of DGC on Cryptsy for too high of a price and it falls 90% in value, you just lost your shirt.

If the bank buys back $10k of DGC worth $1k in market value, it just lost its shirt
515  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][DGC][FBD] Free Bank of Digitalcoin ~ Risk Averse DGC Investments on: June 23, 2013, 12:31:04 AM
This does not work.  The bank will get crushed if DGC falls in value.

Simply put, the bank is guaranteeing a counter-party a profit while assuming all of the downside risk.  If DGC falls, the bank will end up holding the same quantity of an asset that is now much less valuable.
516  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN]DRAGON COIN - Low Difficulty, Start mining! on: June 21, 2013, 10:59:48 PM
This coin was already released don't try to pretend it is a new coin
517  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DGC] DigitalCoin.Co | Instant | Stable | Reliable | Usable for Purchases on: June 21, 2013, 12:58:21 PM
My pool was out for a couple of hours this morning - looks like the DGC client had frozen up and wasn't taking requests.  Hence, we weren't finding any blocks during that period.

It has been restored to normal operation
518  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Argentum DEV, SHAME ON YOU!!!! on: June 17, 2013, 10:49:13 PM
This ruins my whole image of Argentina.  I thought South Americans were honest people
519  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Mining Digitalcoin and Worldcoin is less profitable than it seems on: June 17, 2013, 01:47:35 PM
My P2Pool is averaging about 4.3% DOA/Stale to the Digital Coin network.  The worse it ever gets is around 10% DOA/Stale

Where is coin choose coming up with 25% ?
520  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][ARG] Argentum ~ Modern Digital Currency || Fast. Optimized. Improved. on: June 11, 2013, 01:14:31 AM
We have Chinacoin and AmericanCoin so why not ArgentinaCoin?

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