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501  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If You Bought Bitcoin Each Week in 2019, You’d Be up 49% on: November 26, 2019, 01:31:33 PM
Well the first few months of this year was pretty low so yeah, by average, you should be up at thispoint even when bitcoin dropped to 7k. Though you wouldn't have expected the movements to go the way it did. Good for those who had the foresight to buy early on. If you're in for the long run, there's really nothing to worry about. This process simply repeats.

If you're an experienced trader having regretful times during the bullrun, definitely you've learned a lot from that nightmare. Without considerations of the falling trend, we weren't able to decide the best for our welfare that's why more issues of greed literally affected a lot of people emotionally. Don't expect other people not to worry, since many of us relied their family income in crypto yet the situations got so unpredictable. I still hope for the same process to repeat itself, and more good news will surprise us few months before good bounce starts.
502  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wilder vs. Fury II: The Rematch is On on: November 26, 2019, 12:52:47 PM
and also this match is one of the best because they are really match in terms of everything specially both has 1 loss.
What loss are you talking about, in my eyes Tyson Fury was the better boxer in the first fight and Wilder as usual was having too much power in his hands and those knockdowns were great and Fury showed his metal as he woke from the dead before the ten count and then went for the kill again, one of the best fights of the century and i am expecting another great fight the second time around.

Maybe that's only a perspective from our friend mate, actually he just based his impressions with Tyson Fury on previous fights. Sometimes we fail to see some good points on other boxers, we always expecting great from them and yet if they happen to disappoints on their other fights, eventually that will discredit them. Fury did so well, but we can't convince other people if they won't bet for him. Furthermore I am also an avid fan of Fury, and I trusted him for his coming fights that he will win for it and take the legacy.
503  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin prices are dropping too much... on: November 26, 2019, 11:19:32 AM
A lot of negative news preceded this collapse in the price of Bitcoin. First, the negative news about the police search of the Shanghai office of the Binance exchange. Now a class-action lawsuit has been filed in Washington state against the activities of the Bitfinex exchange. I think that these negative news provoked such a strong fall in the price of digital gold, arranging a real Black Friday in the cryptocurrency market.
Eve Trump news pop and many other news which all are not proven, whatever the reason is now btc is still fighting not lowered in $6k Mark, it might still fall or arise but if we had a chance to buy this week price and plans to hold longer, panic and news will not matter since some really want these dump to happen, maybe those who really make this dump are only whales not the news.

Actually there is no accurate reason to pin point on what is the main cause of the dump since there are so many fuds spreading right now and I think it was done by certain manipulators to create panic and I guess these dump is a preparation for upcoming halving and we shouldn't be panic for this kind of manipulating tactics but instead we should avail what those chances made to earn.

Anybody can share their thoughts here, and when somebody's going to panic; then we should encourage them to have stronger faith. Once we lost our faith and convictions, many unpleasant things would tend to happen. Fake news influenced a lot of investors and traders as well as holders who can't handle their emotions towards trading pressures. Meanwhile, cheaper market value on different promising coins should be grabbed in order to increase our holdings and expect huge returns when bullrun comes.
504  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What can do Governements against Satoshi ? on: November 25, 2019, 03:59:47 PM
The government can't harm him. He did nothing that go against the law. Though if he reveal himself, he's still in danger because there are a lot who would probably want his bitcoin and such. If don't want to work with the government, he's free to do so... Or maybe he is just not greedy when it comes to fame. Maybe he's contented with what bitcoin have achieved.

No government can harm him, the whole Cryptocurrency community and the media will protect him because he will become a very huge commodity and news if he finally comes out, the real one I mean.
But with the huge amount on his wallet, I don't think he is safe roaming alone, the government where he's citizenry is based will probably protect him if that government is lenient in Cryptocurrency, but the chances for him to surface is nil or zero, he has a good chance in the past.

Indeed, satoshi will remain anonymous to everyone who trusted in him and for such a long time being protected by people who backed him up with this digital currency thing, I believed government couldn't track him down. This man is very popular, despite of his anonymous entity who influenced a lot of business over time, and he remained so mysterious for all Government sectors who still wanting to know about him. Unfortunately they will always be frustrated in getting him be revealed, because this name consists of different whales who controls the system which cannot be exploited.
505  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you use betting tips? on: November 25, 2019, 03:36:31 PM
From my personal experience I used, I paid about $ 70 a month, and I got a ticket every 2 days with odds 3-4, I was not satisfied, I guessed poorly (more precisely that tipser), out of 15 tickets, the hits were 7. which is very bad for that odds. I lost a lot on that, so I'm interested in your experience?
i thought several times of going with betting tips but many of the place where I saw who had tried before didn't have good experience with betting tips many have lost , I would doubt if anyone had good knowledge about sports betting why would he provide tips  he would be making money , anyone here had good experience ?

For sure those tipsters became rich if they can predict accurately but remember it's just a tip and maybe he knows the league well that's why he gets an idea on which team is stronger but we can't rely this in the long run since the game still ongoing and anything good will possible to happen on the under dog teams that's why we can see a surprising lose for the strong teams and those who bet randomly earn huge.


And instead of paying maybe it's best to do a self research since we are the one who can give a high chances predictions to ourselves.


Good thing for everybody to have self research, but it's not easy to do that if you're so busy in your work. Some might find it resourceful once you're paying for a services. Tips was just non sense and could consume more wrong ideas. What best to have is our own mind who handles the gambling pressures, and with that strategies you can build the best ideas which can sustain in a long period of time being involved with gambling.
506  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: China implements new strict controls on Cryptocurrency on: November 25, 2019, 12:55:23 PM
China has taken the right step looking at the future! The Chinese government is aware of the risks related to cryptos and decentralization! They are aware that serious financial frauds can be organized using cryptos and hence they want to roll out strict regulations to prevent such misconducts from happening! That makes sense!

However, don't link the current downfall with this announcement! Such news may have affected botcoin's price to a certain extent but not entirely! There are other things that might have played their part as well! Don't forget about upcoming black friday and Christmas!

Sooner or later every government has to do that. In my view cryptocurrency is no way beneficial for governments and centralized financial institutes like banks.
Banks have already started movement againest decentralized cryptocurrency aka BTC.

Yes, bank owners have to purse those legalities and tries to pull down Bitcoin's economy, and they're more like cry babies who lies on government side which I think biased scenario.
Despite of that possibilities, the people still remain strong and decisive with their principles because bitcoin was really a sustainable kind of asset. With issues on illegalities, I think more Chinese people is doing a lot of crimes involving fraud and scams which they usually do using fiat money, and now starting to divert for cryptocurrency bitcoin like scam investments.
507  Economy / Speculation / Re: trump is the cause of drop prices bitcoin on: November 25, 2019, 05:44:07 AM
since the commentaire of trump on twitter before three month prices already starting falling
but should trump make another twitter about bitcoin but this time positive and give prices bullish trend?
is the governoment playing with prices bitcoin?
does trump and givernements love bitcoin or not?

No, and I don't think it will work that way. And besides I don't think trump does even care about crypto currency. Yes, influence plays a great role in terms of this but the thing is trump has lots of opposing followers, and looking upon that I don't think those people are willing to take the risk that crypto currency has to offer. Lastly, few governments are into bitcoin majority are not.

I guess this is the way of the FUD makers just to influence many people without proof, perhaps about Trump's status on crypto there's no strong evidence that he doesn't like cryptocurrency. Some articles spread non believable ideas and insights, most of them is fake news. They thought it could twist the mindsets of many people, but by the time of realization the people will stand on what they strongly believed for Bitcoin. The majority and minority on Government were both equal on their visions, so it only needs proper time to set everything to normal without any conflicting issues.
508  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble with a controlled mindset on: November 24, 2019, 03:02:17 PM
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Controlling yourself while gambling is hard, especially if you are enjoying the game from your winnings and if you are experiencing a lose streak that you can't get back all of your lost, that is why a lot of gamblers are greedy and ends up getting addicted to it. I think the best way to control yourself while gambling is by limiting the amount of your money to avoid spending a huge amount of profit and to continue to play.
in what way to limit that? especially if the person is a heavy gambling addict, in my opinion the person needs a therapy, so that the person can choose when to stop (limit) so as not to spend all his money when profit or when losing. if not an addict, just a gambler, it might be easy to do that thing because from the beginning have mindset would not play too far (play safe) can limiting the amount of money and avoid spending a lot money.
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Is there any therapy services that offers that kind related with gambling addiction? Well, I don't thinks so, and  If I were to advice this certain problems that needs to be resolve seriously, limiting ourselves over gambling cannot be done that easy. Because when a person choosed to stop or limit himself, therapy is useless and will cost you huge amount of money. Every gambler who've already addicted, needs to seek any diversions of activities in many ways, that can be famlily time, events and anything that rehabilitates a person discreetly.
509  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: China’s ‘Silicon Valley’ Identifies 39 Cryptocurrency Companies As Illegal on: November 24, 2019, 01:23:20 PM

It’s just weird for me. Just weird. After being pro-blockchain and removing crypto mining in their banned industries, these filthy companies who are implementing scams and ponzi schemes are taking advantage of the news thinking that the government are fine with them. It would only lead them in continuing their bad assumption on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in the Chinese market. Because of these fraudulent companies using Bitcoin and crypto as “front”, it creates a bad image for the crypto world in China, not blockchain.


Ponzi scams are destroying the good name of Bitcoin and cryptocurrency in general. Well, Chinese are also good at scamming and scammers are good at taking advantage of any opportunity they can find. Maybe these scammers are thinking that since China is now a pro-blockchain country then they can start fooling their own fellowmen using the intricate pyramiding investment schemes appealing to the greed of anyone. On the side of the government, this is adding another layer of the many reasons why authorities are not inclined to allow cryptocurrency to officially enter the Chinese market.

These Chinese scammers really thought that they could go against their government, and as of now they're considered as terrorist on their own country. If you're going to rob your fellow countrymen, you're one of the traitors of your own race. China's idea of being pro-blockchain has to be reviewed in connection with the ongoing issues, before the entire country will allow particular legalities which to be implemented seriously to avoid scammers to target another victims.
510  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Government Could Shutdown Bitcoin? on: November 24, 2019, 12:33:24 PM
As bitcoin is decentralized no government can ban it. Until and unless people stop using it government can't do anything with this.Yes there are pumps and dumps in bitcoin go check bitcoin chart how much it is increased and decrease.



The government body was only specific on their rule of law on a certain country, and with bitcoin's issue, there's no binds between them. Government is only focused on centralized banking system, that's why with bitcoin's independent character; the banning idea only affects for their citizen. But the whole world still remain solid and vocal that cryptocurreny will always be their preferred asset that can sustain for such a long time, which can be more potential than any physical asset like gold.
511  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 30th South East Asian Games on: November 24, 2019, 11:33:52 AM
My vote would be bias of course. I would go for the Philippines since I'm from the Philippines. Not only because it's my country, but also because I can see the potentials of the Philippines representatives. Looking at the records and standing, the Philippines has the capability in competing with the other countries. Also, it's an advantage for the Philippines since they'll be hosting the said event, knowing the support of co-fellow Filipinos are stronger... But I know it won't be an easy fight for PH since other Asian countries are good as well.

Let's be fair for all countries who participated this worldwide event, and as I've look at the potential of Philippines compared with other competing countries, I am also sighting their advantages since we're not aware yet on their performances. Let's always count on several possibilities, probably if Philippines couldn't make it towards the top I just predict the second or third place for them.
512  Economy / Economics / Re: The U.S. Government Tried To Shut Down Bitcoin on: November 24, 2019, 09:52:43 AM
I think they do the right thing. they have a voice and their country hates money laundering or tax evasion. As for the crypto market, most businesses formed here are just to avoid tax or money laundering wisely. That's why you see more than 4,000 coins were generated and only a few dozen alts worked well. This is the largest manipulation and money laundering market in the world that any government hates and prohibits businesses from joining. If we run a large country, we would not want our people to evade taxes or launder money in this way. things will get chaotic and the economy will not be stable.

This news constitutes with other fud makers and I think that there's a shady plans for other big whales in connection to the government. No matter who eager they're trying to pull down bitcoin, they couldn't be successful because of the decentralization of bitcoin. It's created to become anonymous, so people preferred to use it independently, and in fact most of the growing businesses in US implemented the system using blockchain technology.
513  Economy / Economics / Re: Which countries have banking friendly to companies that get paid in bitcoin? on: November 23, 2019, 01:27:40 PM
There are lots of country out there accepting crypto currency. Those who are mentioned in some news, making some noise about banning, cracking down and other stuff about crypto are the top countries you need to avoid. Well, those who are remaining silent, and discreet about crypto are something more friendly though not totally, but at least they are open.

Basically that's the actual situation in several asian countries right now, they're not actually retaliating about crypto but open to whatever opportunities in line with it's acceptance for public use. In my country right now, there's no companies or private sectors that implemented crypto on their payroll yet or using crypto as their mode of salary. However, that's used on basic trading on both fiat and crypto trading, also being affiliated on payment services like bills payment, as part of their services menu choices.
514  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you have control or not? on: November 23, 2019, 08:06:46 AM
Can you consciously and willingly stop gambling at any time?
If you can do the above, you have great control and discipline, of course you are not an addict and you deserve to gamble as much as you want.
If not, clarify your ways of stopping gambling.
i am a discipline person from my younger years,and everything i do must be with limitation and moderation even when i drink alcohol or in gambling things that i do must me beyond my control so Yes i can stand in table everytime i want and i can seat when i also wanted.
It is very difficult to have discipline and stop gambling at the moment of losing, people tend to expect the next lucky time. I lost many times because I couldn't stop gambling.
A heartfelt advice from my experience is that if we are unable to control ourselves the best is to never gamble. I am currently trying to stay away from gambling.
if you do believe in gambling then there is really a hard way to stop,but remember that those who believe in gambling also believe that they can gamble their future.

Indeed, gambling the future is a huge risk for all who kept spending on gambling, and I believed that if a prolonged activities may put you under worst scenario of losing your funds. In order to overcome your gambling needs, it must be controlled seriously by suppressing activities linked to daily basis. If you can't manage it, addiction is always feasible to happen all the time which you can't even control at maximum.
515  Economy / Speculation / Re: Reason for current bloodbath on: November 23, 2019, 07:30:06 AM
Seem all are just manipulation including this news about binance office in Shanghai which is not really true and then there is this China disposing exchanges. Probably just a price manipulation to give another chance for the institutions who had not been investing more on BTC to get into it right now before its too late for them. Cryptocurrency is just too ripe for the picking and with the coming halving, this is got to be the whales message to say get on board!
I agree on your opinion. The volume of BTC in Bakkt during bloodbath always plummeted and this os not a coincidence. Institutional investors are manipulating price  to enter lower in BTC. This BS greedy don't care about crypto but only think for there personal gain. I already halt on trading because there is no strong support near the current price level.

Always stay calm and don't take a serious attachment on current bloodbath, and as long as manipulation always dominates there's no way to handle it over. Greediness will always create more chaos, that's why we need to overcome fears instead of ranting at worst cases. Hopefully all of the speculations regarding the support for bitcoin, could establish a huge potentials in the upcoming year 2020. We should wait for the whales to take over the corrections and help the price bounce higher.
516  Economy / Economics / Re: Crypto is changing the personal asset management market on: November 22, 2019, 12:32:23 PM
It's a good start. The ease of getting into it meant that even the unbanked in developing countries can start saving up. People who can't afford to buy gold or don't have enough money for stocks can just buy crypto, etc.

It's also easier to manage your money. The only time I use banks in relation to crypto is when cashing out and it need not necessarily be done with just banks.



With bitcoin, the people had an opportunity to purchase bitcoin at their own freedom without thinking of having gold as their asset. Managing our money is worthy in most cases, but what's more important is that you knew how to control your outgoing and incoming funds. Developing countries should apply crypto on banking system in order to make their transactions more efficient.
517  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Bitcoin is dumping? on: November 22, 2019, 11:25:31 AM
One reason people start selling their bitcoin that cause hard falling down, second because on what happen to binance theres many factor that consider this dumping the good thing that I can see in this scenario if you are long term holder and want yo buy bitcoin at lpw price then this is your chance to buy more.

Yes people selling bitcoin is panic does is causing more damage but there are other factors like whales manipulating the market just to fill their coffer with more bitcoin before halving. But this time I am not sure if it's really the whales who have dumped it or some other factor but bitcoin will recover sooner than expected.

I'm not sure if that's the case but somehow it maybe a little cause of the dump these days since for sure many people get affected on the current situation of the market but actually I'm still positive that there is a good outcome will happen on next month or maybe in next year since we should remember that halving still there and possibly it could bring a good impact in the dumping market these days.

For now I will monitor the market to spot the correct timing on when to get in and earn when pump  came  Grin.

Maybe the correct timing was too hard to see when it could come back at good times. Earning while it pumps, is a great experience for everyone but we still need to wait for several times before we reach our aims. Hopefully the perfect one will be not hard as previous days that all of us struggled to face such circumstances while waiting for it.
518  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Trading competition good way to earn money? on: November 22, 2019, 10:33:55 AM
I think its best to do trading competition for big time traders. Those with large funds. Trading competition for me is for experienced traders only. I think this is so hard and traders involved in that are on its highest level of knowledge. Well, experience is a constant practice. So might as well make your chances and see the result. We can always learn from it but always play within your fund limits.

True, if you are ready to be part of a trading competition and ready to lost how many funds then this is for you even you are an experience or newbie. a lot of gimmick is happening in many exchanges and if you are ignorant in this kind of their method and does not accumulate more info maybe its not for you. but experience is a best way to gather knowledge but we have our own limitations like our funds and time so risk it at limited only, don't hyp all in.

That's only good to do trading when you have enough funds to capitalize for a competition. I won't advice anyone whose interested with this type of promotion, since it was too dangerous for some newbies to fall potential trading manipulations. Not all trading exchanges can be trusted on this certain aspects, because a reputable exchange promise us good returns on our investments. They won't promote a competition while in a bearish market like what's currently happening now, red market occured badly and most price of crypto were all in a downfall trend.
519  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Altcoins or Bitcoin? on: November 21, 2019, 03:59:45 PM
I would choose bitcoin over altcoins because it has been proven sustainable and strong currency for so many years. Even the value falls down several times, there's always a huge potential to recover of its own. The momentum is reliable to become a growing asset, and although the behavior is volatile, it was catching the interest of many people who learned the crypto economy. Altcoins sometimes good, but in most cases it will crash potentially at nearly zero value.
520  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What can you buy with bitcoin? Apparently, some weird shit. on: November 21, 2019, 11:37:59 AM
Although it may seem like "weird shit" to us, the market is there. When there is a demand, there's supply.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

True. Weird as heck, but the girl is smart enough to take advantage of some weird crap that some people for some reason are interested in.

Her parents must be so proud.
She must be rich on spending much money on a "weird shit" thing,
you should have read the and understand the thread first before posting,She is the one who sold the Bath water FYI.



Lol. Who even takes these water from tubs? And where? The buyers aren't even sure they get what they paid for haha. It could be from some random hairy guy's shower. You'll see a lot of weird shit especially in the black market. Weirdest I've seen was on social media. A very ugly love doll that's on sale for .2 BTC. Who would spend on that lol
maybe the seller make a live videos bottling those water from the tub thats why they knew it is a legit,yet not enough for me to purchase that shits,and about the "pee" and "chewed gum"?that's a NO NO for me.

Thinking of something worth for that idea of buying non sense shit, I don't think it's valuable enough. Maybe it's a disgusting idea for a normal mentality person, but very rare for some weird buddies who appreciates that kind of crappy thing to be sold using bitcoin as payment. Buy things worth for bitcoin like digital investments for trading, and not for any worthless interests.
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