That's actually what I see, except for LTC which I consider a good coin. |
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The problem for the big pocketed folks is that unlike the gold futures market or the stock market you can't naked short BTC. You actually have to have some to sell or borrow.
This makes the market much harder to control hence the weekend/holiday attempts when people can't get fiat onto an exchange.
yes, but you can short BTC with leverage, even high, almost naked. And if you have deep pockets or a money printer you can short forever. But I guess that now the lizards are undecided between milking and killing crypto. |
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You should never go all in with anything. But if you do not already have a fraction of your portfolio loaded with PM you might better think again right now.
Which is bullshit advice from people who will never make it big. If you understand something better than 99.9% of the population, and it reasonably seems like an absurdly excellent investment then you go full in. If you had done this with BTC, you wouldn't be here sharing bullshit advice. Disclaimer: I am not responsible for people who can't asses what "reasonable" actually is and lose all their money investing in stocks or metals.  Now tell it to those who bought in the high 4K.  But apart from the risk management (and we're dealing with huge risk imho) if you go all in you can't buy low when the opportunity comes. |
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can always trade bitcoin for cash face to face. They will never be able to prevent that, as long as paper money still exists.
No, but if (when) they will abandon paper money and move to state crypto-fiat only we would be allowed to exchange decentralized crypto for state crypto only. And then we'll find to be all fu-ked, since they will have full control of state crypto (who has what etc.), with full power of censoring any tx or balance, unless some state-crypto mixer will be developed, which is quite unlikely. |
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asking the "governments-will-outlaw-bitcoin" people:
has there ever been a major breakthrough in IT that has been outlawed? where is the historic precedent? and while you at it: please put together a list of technologies that have been invented but have been outlawed. and forget biological stuff like "cloning humans" - cloning mammals is not illegal, cloning humans is of course, but it did not stop the technology.
Maybe you're too young to remember that there was a prohibition of exporting pgp tech out of the US, until it was abolished after it leaked anyway. |
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You are really pie in the sky if you think that Gold is going to appreciate better than BTC in the coming years.
Sure, anything can happen, but you are not being very practical or logical if you believe that various governments can more easily control the movement, storage and hoardings of bitcoin as compared with gold.
Corrected for inflation the 1980 gold high would be likely around 5000 USD now, so a tripling is in the cards. A BTC price tripling from current levels, i.e. hitting about 15K USD does not seems so guaranteed to me for 2 reasons: - naked short selling BTC requires way less money than naked short selling the global gold market (a difference of several orders of magnitude); - the BTC share of cryptomarket is declining, probably because people does not like to spend several thousands for a fraction of cryptocoin, and especially because the higher the BTC price rises and the smaller the potential further gains become in %, which make BTC less attractive for speculators the more its price rises. But I keep staking some ounces of PM every once in a while just because of risk management and diversification. |
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With gold is usually unlikely to make big gains, but its inherent risk is almost nil. That's why it's always a good idea to have some as an hedge against more risky investments -BTC included.
I like to keep accumulating some ounces after major pumps in BTC price, just to sleep well.
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Dipende anche dall'exchange. Io con TRT non ho mai avuto il minimo problema. Invece Finex quando è stata hackerata(?) mi ha fregato un sacco di soldi, quindi con la seconda ho chiuso del tutto.
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Nonsense. If the market moves strongly to Bitcoin Cash over Bitcoin Core, then the narrative that 'Bitcoin Cash is The Real Bitcoin' will have been proven true.
It's not a matter of Bitcoin(TM) brand, but who controls the toy. Would you invest in anything hijacked by the 3 stooges? |
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So in Russia they will make it legal and possible to trade Bitcoin and cryptos for the guys with deep pockets while the average worker will not be allowed to invest in it. This is pretty sad to read and I doubt it will work out.
Probably a thriving black market will exist beside that regulation, as I can not believe people who are aware of cryptos will accept getting robbed the opportunity to invest or speculate with that technology, which could change so many people's situations into a better life.
Maybe they made that choice to be sure to tax every single winning trade. A reason more for the black market to thrive. |
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+1
stay save with a hedge (BCH) against the future of BTC.
excuse me? BitCH would be a hedge on BTC risk? If BitCH succeeds in killing BTC, then: 1) There will be a general crash in crypto because it will be proved that they can be killed by such attacks; and 2) There are many better coins than BitCH to play with. Draw your conclusions. |
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Masterluc's parabolic spoke to $30,000-40,000 is slowly developing.
Maybe John McAfee's dick has a chance.  |
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That really pisses me off. Just sold part of my gold stash and sitting on fiat that I cannot inject in BTC without serious risk... .
You are a few years late to the party. Now it's time to begin reversing that trade. BTW: No ATH in euro yet. Still 40 euro below. |
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I have hijacked the Wall Observer thread quite enough for one day so I will now bow out of this discussion. Thank you all for your patience I felt this was too important an issue to leave unchallenged even if it was off topic.
Don't worry, this is the general purpose thread where anything happens. But if you manage to become a jew please let us know how. KThx |
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At least r0ach was somewhat funny mixing his hate speeches with defending PM's against Bitcoin while we were hugely profiting from it.
Yeah, I miss him and I hope to see him back. In fact I am shitposting here thinking about him. Anyway just today I bought about 15 Kilos of silver for less than 2 BTC. Just because you never know. |
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If it makes you feel better it is possible I could someday be a Jew years from now. Modern Orthodox Judaism is a very logical faith and their lifestyle is very healthy.
Really? I don't think that they accept any new entry if your mother is not jew, even if you hack your dick. I thought about this move myself in order to gain a second passport, but it seems that only russian mafiamen are allowed in. |
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That said in regards to what benefit Jews have provided to the west the answer is quite a lot. Tremendous scientific achievements have been accomplished by Jews. On a deeper level Monotheism itself has its roots in Judaism and this is arguably responsible for society as we know it. I explored that point further here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1578467.msg15852496#msg15852496monotheism is possibly the biggest problem we have, because there are several, and other reasons. But since you must be a jew, let me fuck you off once again. |
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Since you asked and the issue is an important one I will do so and ask the forbearance of those here only for BTC market discussion.
Your walls of text are useless, being 100% b/s. the underlying cause has little to do with everyone's favorite racial bogeyman. This just attests that you know nothing. It is easy to rail against the symptoms of decline and look for scapegoats to attack. The "scapegoats" led us in this shit all along the last 4 centuries at least. The Jews Fuck them. https://i.imgur.com/6M8mE8F.jpgetc. |
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