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501  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [VIDEO] Issues at BFL - Exposing Whitespace in BTC markets on: August 25, 2013, 10:37:17 PM
Here are just a few of the areas where your veracity is lacking.

FCC?
Refunds?
Delivery dates?
Knowledge of backdoor shipments to Cloudhasing?
Knowledge of production delays not passed on to customers?
No refund policy without determined shipping dates?

Shall we play another game?


How about defamation of character?





Like I said, provide proof.  You have yet to do so.  Until you do, all you're doing is lying or at best, proffering an ill-informed opinion.



All documented in this forum and most in your own posts from the BFL forums.

Feel free to browse the forums at your leisure. I am sure you are not going to deny you lied about the FCC having your units being tested and that it would be ready in 2 weeks time?

I think there are many people waiting for you to directly answer that question. Funny you seem to like calling people LIARS but when asked a specific question you simply make accusations. Have you had training in this sort deceptive practice in the past? It seems very suspect that you can't simply answer that question, and even more telling you won't deny any of the accusations directly. Did you send your units to be tested at the FCC?

Once you have answered that question. I will post the evidence I have of your statements in your own forums.

We will then move on to the second question as to refunds and your statements as to why you lied to your own customers on your website about the BFL policy regarding refunds and when they we instituted. If you don't want to answer these questions for legal reasons I will understand no one wants to get you into trouble.

Your defense lawyer is going to really have to work with you on how to properly evade the question. I plead the 5th will be your mantra. Learn it now it might save you jail time.

And still you fail to provide any proof.  Gosh, this is interesting.  I wonder why you're unable to provide any proof?  The "Well, I'm sure it's around here somewhere" argument doesn't exactly work here.  So not only are you a failure at business, you're also a failure at... well... looks like everything so far.

 
502  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 25, 2013, 10:32:43 PM

On the other hand, BFL managed to create a chip from scratch, design and manufacture numerous boards.  Design and manufacture cases, power supplies, heat sinks, cables and a whole host of other parts. 



I call BS, simply because you took too much money from ordinary customers to accomplish that. With all that money at your disposal you are a total failure.

Your timing is a failure, your product is a failure, your company is a failure, and you are a total failure.

He knows he is a failure. No need to rub it in. I on the other hand am not so easily dissuaded. Let us see who gets sued less that be the benchmark I would love to be measured against.

Heh... that's what I thought.  The "Busineess for Dummies" book that you read didn't work out and now you're throwing a tantrum to try to take attention away from the fact that your entire business is a failure from start to finish.  Meanwhile, in BFL land, more product than any other company has been shipped.  More hashrate than any other company has been shipped.  Poor Bick is left looking at his failure of a plan wondering what went wrong.  So sad.
503  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Time to sue ButterflyLabs - Big Single-SC owner let's league for class action on: August 25, 2013, 09:11:29 PM
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IF BFL had delivered in January as I had thought,I/we would have made out like 1st batch Avalons did,almost

This is why you don't understand how bitcoin works and why your arguments are laughable.  Do you seriously believe you would be the only person receiving a unit?  Because that is the only scenario where this statement would be true, otherwise, it's just plain false.


Josh,I know more about Bitcoin,than you know about ASIC's bro  Cheesy

Avalon 1st batch customers & BFL customers would of had the "Early adopter Advantage",which at the time of ordering is what WE as BFL customers had COUNTED on.There was only AsicMiner on the near horizon,no other competitors were anywhere near to release time in January.

But you,BFL,kept delaying over & over again,because of ineptness & cost us,your customers,that advantage.Aww boohoo right  Huh

Yes,all BFL devices will make a "positive return" for quite sometime.Any "return" is positive,no matter how small..............

But no where near the amount had BFL delivered in the original timeframe of Oct 2012-Jan 2013.

Thank you for your thoughts & get back to shipping ASAP  Wink

Once again, this is why you don't understand how bitcoin works.  Let me see if I can dumb it down enough for you to understand:

When excess hashrate is on the network, the difficulty rises until it reaches an equilibrium with the hashrate so that 6 blocks are created per hour.  If BFL had shipped everything in November, the difficulty would be far in excess to where it is now (and even more than to where it was a month ago), thus your profitability would have declined.  Once again, the only way you scenario can be true is if you're the only one receiving a unit.  That would not have happened, therefore your premise is false.  

No, you do not understand bitcoin at all, sorry.
504  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces 28nm 600GH/S blade for $4680 on: August 25, 2013, 09:02:34 PM
Scammy is as scammy does. BFL = Shady.

At least they ship something...

Where are yours Supa K1 miners ? With no ROI at all ? Huu ?

And don't tell me about Avalon fiasco...cause if you are a real Pro, you secure multiple providers.
You refunded every one : Good.
You haven't secured multiple chips providers : Bad.

You see...running a business isn't easy (and i'm asking myself if in your country they are aware about your "little business"...?)

Here is the deal. When you know you can't deliver you refund people. You don't play a waiting game and then string them along for 12 more months... or is it 2 weeks? You don't spend the BTC of your customers you hold it in escrow in case the worst happens. Nor do you bait and switch and then give no delivery date and then come up with fantastic new product for just 10% more and low and behold it is delayed 2 months after raising more capital to perpetuate the lies you are being sold. Ya I am the shady one that can't run a business. I prefer not to be litigated into oblivion also I prefer to work with integrity and honesty. Something else our little business has going for it. Thanks for asking.

Refunds without questions and delaying tactics it is the LEAST shady thing you can do I am sure I can garner more trust in this forum based on that alone than BFL can with "shipping" something very very late and in most cases not at all. I suspect that in the longer term we will do ok with our little business and that is just something time will tell. Until we have resolved all our refunds we are not going to be promoting our other projects we have going. That is just rude to those who put trust in our hands in the first place. One thing at a time and resolve the problems you have before moving on to the next project. Just a sound decision on our part as a cooperative.

BFL = Shady.
fractal02 = Shady socket puppet.

Here's the deal, Bick:

You had a "paint by numbers" business plan and you are, in every sense of the word, a failure at even that.  You had a proven board design (by someone else).  You had proven chips (by someone else). All you had to do was slap two separate parts together, chips and board... and you couldn't even accomplish that much.  You are a terrible businessman.  You have absolutely zero ability to follow through, even when everything, down to the last detail is handed to you on a silver platter.  

On the other hand, BFL managed to create a chip from scratch, design and manufacture numerous boards.  Design and manufacture cases, power supplies, heat sinks, cables and a whole host of other parts.  BFL managed to see the entire project through from the very start and has shipped thousands upon thousands of units, and you can't even manage to ship a handful of units that you snap together and throw in a box.  Then you have the unmitigated gall to come here and complain about BFL?  Hahaha... you are pathetic.  Is your constant complaining a way to make yourself feel better after realizing you are such a failure?  What is it?  You had everything available to you and you still couldn't follow through... guess it's not so easy manufacturing things, is it?  Even when you don't have to, you know, put any work into it... you still can't do it.  But sure, tell us how you know a business should be run.  Regale us with tales of how you know exactly what to do to run a successful business, I'd love to hear it. 

505  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [VIDEO] Issues at BFL - Exposing Whitespace in BTC markets on: August 25, 2013, 08:56:34 PM
Here are just a few of the areas where your veracity is lacking.

FCC?
Refunds?
Delivery dates?
Knowledge of backdoor shipments to Cloudhasing?
Knowledge of production delays not passed on to customers?
No refund policy without determined shipping dates?

Shall we play another game?


How about defamation of character?





Like I said, provide proof.  You have yet to do so.  Until you do, all you're doing is lying or at best, proffering an ill-informed opinion.
506  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [VIDEO] Issues at BFL - Exposing Whitespace in BTC markets on: August 25, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Proof of what?  BFL's officers lying about delivery dates in public in several forums? 

Provide proof of lies.  What's that, you can't?  I wonder why...

507  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Time to sue ButterflyLabs - Big Single-SC owner let's league for class action on: August 25, 2013, 07:53:52 PM
Out of curiosity, did anyone ever correct you on your 'en mass' statement?

Yes, several people pointed it out when I posted it.

stfu and refund me BBB 9660523

No.  Put on your big boy pants first and accept responsibility for your actions, then we'll talk.
508  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Time to sue ButterflyLabs - Big Single-SC owner let's league for class action on: August 25, 2013, 07:46:41 PM
I bring this up, though I know it's pointless:

Can someone point out where I continually said we would definitely ship in two weeks over and over?  I'd like to see evidence of this.  I know the "two weeks" mantra is the rallying cry, but once again, reality and the beliefs of the anti-BFL trolls are two entirely different things.  No sense in arguing about it, as it's immaterial, but I thought I'd just throw that fuel on to the fire... but yeah, another lie from Viceroy et al.  They are just parrots repeating what they heard, as personal research, truth and honesty are something they know very little about.

On another note, I love how anyone who is not critical of BFL is automatically me posting as a sock puppet.  It's totally awesome.  Much like poor Bryan Micon the scam artists "BFL has downvoting bots on reddit!" whine, do you idiots honestly think I care about your pathetic ramblings enough to spend more than a few minutes a day reading and responding to the blatant stupidity, willful ignorance and outright lies that you perpetrate on a daily basis?  The sheer volume of your stupidity would overwhelm ten of me, much less a single me, which is why I stopped caring about you idiots a long time ago.  I do enjoy watching your mindless ramblings, though.  It's a fair bit of entertainment... especially when you get the echo chamber of K9, PL, PG, Bick and Viceroy going in full swing and you are all just responding to each other over and over.  I think the best so far was just over a full page of you nutbags going at it without a single other person chiming in.  I'd love to get you all in the same room and see what happens, it would be like watching a bowl full of retarded kittens try to figure out what yarn is for.  Except the collective intelligence of the kittens would be about sixty points higher.
509  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Time to sue ButterflyLabs - Big Single-SC owner let's league for class action on: August 25, 2013, 03:48:33 PM
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IF BFL had delivered in January as I had thought,I/we would have made out like 1st batch Avalons did,almost

This is why you don't understand how bitcoin works and why your arguments are laughable.  Do you seriously believe you would be the only person receiving a unit?  Because that is the only scenario where this statement would be true, otherwise, it's just plain false.
510  Other / Off-topic / Re: Jeff Ownby is VP of BFL or: Who is Jeffrey Ownby? on: August 24, 2013, 11:00:19 PM
@Inaba
By the looks of it, BFL must be doing something wrong since the forum is flooded with negative posts regarding BFL.
Why do BFL continue to hold their customers in the dark regarding shipping and expected time of delivery?
Understand that people paid quite a lot of money for a product that they haven't received!

If BFL got nothing to hide, tell your customers whats up. If you guys were to play with open cards and have a little respect and understanding for all the frustrated customers that feel like they are being butt fucked due to the lack of information from BFL, maybe the tone would change

Compared to the number of orders shipped, the number of complaints are virtually non-existent.  That's not to say we are not trying to improve our process, but at this point in time the "problems" to orders shipped is less than 1%, which is a pretty good ratio, but yes ideally we'd like to get that to 0%.  In general, people only take to the forums when there's a problem, not when they are happy.  There are some exceptions, but it's very rare.

If you have a problem with your order that you've received, contact us and we'll try to make it right.

511  Other / Off-topic / Re: Jeff Ownby is VP of BFL or: Who is Jeffrey Ownby? on: August 24, 2013, 08:25:12 PM
+1000 for your effort and persistence in pursuing the truth behind BFL and their scheme

All that time and effort and he has yet to produce any evidence of anything nefarious.  Even connecting (via complete fabrications) completely unrelated things together and he's still unable to actually produce any compelling proof for a single thing.  Yeah, good use of ones time there.  Occams razor here, which one is more likely:

1. BFL is so awesome at scamming that they are able to cover all possible tracks that, even when you are not constrained by reality, you can't uncover proof of wrongdoing.
2. BFL isn't actually doing anything wrong.

Which is more likely?   

512  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [30000 GH/s] EMC: 0 Fee/PPS/DGM/Dwolla/SMS/2FA/GBT/Stratum/Vardiff on: August 24, 2013, 04:30:37 PM
Sometimes the pool can't determine who actually found the block, so it defaults to the last share submitted for that block.  Sometimes that method is not entirely accurate.
513  Economy / Goods / FS: Valentine 1 Radar Detector on: August 24, 2013, 04:29:32 PM
I'm selling a V1 radar detector with V1.8.A-POP2 with Euro Mode.  This is considered one of the best radar (if not the best) detectors on the market.  It comes with window mount and hard wire kit (for wiring directly into your car's electrical system, avoiding the obnoxious cigarette lighter coiled cord hanging all over the place). 

Works great, no problems with it at all. 

Looking for 3 BTC OBO shipped.

514  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is BFL liable for this statement? on: August 24, 2013, 03:16:15 PM
Am I wrong?

Only the times you decide to hit the "Post" button.
515  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Time to sue ButterflyLabs - Big Single-SC owner let's league against BFL scam. on: August 24, 2013, 05:46:43 AM
Right on cue, in come the trolls to wreck a good thread!  Lets see if we can get K9, PL and PG in here, as well!

516  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Time to sue ButterflyLabs - Big Single-SC owner let's league against BFL scam. on: August 24, 2013, 04:45:16 AM
Yes! Get the torches and pitchforks, for tomorrow we march on BFL! 

517  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: avalon + BFL miners in hand? pro miners on: August 23, 2013, 08:04:55 PM
It's a stolen pic, since I'm the one that took it! Smiley  It's just been photoshopped quite a bit.

518  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitparking anyone get their money back? on: August 23, 2013, 03:36:11 PM
Yeah I had put about 40k NMC there a long time ago while it was wayyy down and I was upside down on the conversion from the pool to BTC hoping it would go up so at least I could break even.  When it started to go back up, I went to get it out of there and lo and behold the exchange conveniently crashed about that time.

I had already exchanged a bit, so there was some BTC sitting on there as well as NMC.  Ugh
519  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Bitparking anyone get their money back? on: August 23, 2013, 02:52:43 PM
Nope, I got nothing from him either.  I had a fair about of BTC and a ton of old NMC in Bitparking.  I sent him several messages and he finally stopped responding. 

Sounds like he's taken hundreds of thousands in NMC and who knows how much BTC and run.  That's not an insignificant amount of money at this point.
520  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: avalon + BFL miners in hand? pro miners on: August 23, 2013, 04:24:33 AM
got another response just now



I took a bit of a closer look at this picture.  That unit is one of our development units with short boards inside... I thought that setup looked familiar.

It is a total scam.
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