S9 - remove the A: , enable the W: but after a reboot, S9 will revert to Restricted again. ---> @patrike, not sure if you are aware of this ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) easier solution for noobs on the S7, flash older version of fw such as Fri Dec 11 11:51:56 CST 2015, no restrictions. GL & have fun, don't break, blow or brick anything ! Just looked into the Restricted API access and speed changes using Awesome Miner: You need either the Professional Edition or higher to use those functions. Looks like time for me to bite the bullet and upgrade from Standard to Premium (good for 20miners per-site). Nice thing is that Premium also unlocks remote access for monitoring/rebooting my farm at work ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Have you tried powering just the controller board and while leaving the hash boards un-powered, pressing the reset for >10sec? That seems to have unbricked another person's s7 here.
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looks pretty cool. I have a few Thermaltake PSU's they are very reliable
From their site "patented 256 colors RGB fan". PATENTED??? How the hell did something as common as RGB modulation of LED's in a fan or whatever get a patent??? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Why it took 45 days for repair and shipping one board? Finally, they never sent me back my board. I got back board with another serial number, and other design.
No idea why it took so long, luckily my 2 warranty issues with a s5 and a s7 were handled within 2 weeks. I do see that in the Forms to fill out for service Bitmain has added several 'special instructions' to the WO form... https://cnshop.bitmain.com/workOrderGuide.htm"Shipping way: UPS,DHL,FEDEX,EMS, TNT, USPS, or your local post office are available.please note that EMS and USPS provide poor service in HK,we cant ensure they can delivery the parcels in time. NOTE: 1. Be sure mark "deliveries are made on working days only" and "Antminer" on the items description of the waybill.Otherwise we wont accept any delay due to missing of these info .
2. It's necessary to package the hashboard very carefully. We can not repair if the PIN on hashboard is lost because of the shipping problem. Please claim to your logistics agent if the PIN is lost on the way. 3. The HongKong warehouse only responsible for receiving the parcels ,we wont accept "Freight Collect",please pay the shipping cost in your side. Please mark the warehouse NO. 3811 Consignee: (The package will be rejected if there is no "No.3811"; The PSU can not be packed with other stuff in the same tracking number because of customs clearance) Name:FUKWOK KWONG-No.3811 Company Name:TUNG-D INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT LIMITED Warehouse No.3811 Address:Unit 104, 1/F, Sunbeam Centre, 27 Shing Yip Street, Kwun Tong, Kowloon, Hong Kong Office Tel:+852-2750 5059 (The number is only available for logistics not for service ) Warehouse:Tel: +852-2750 5150(The number is only available for logistics not for service )" That looks to open a lot of loopholes for them to claim 'lost in transit'.... PIN?? as in the barcode sticker on the boards??? What would a logistics company have to do with that? Now as to getting back a different board: Well, ja. That is how most often any electronics servicing goes. Rarely is any board repaired and sent back. Even using low-cost labor it is usually just not worth the time to do more than verify a board is dead. So, either a re-worked board (from production problems or returned boards from other customers that were able to be fixed) is returned to the customer or if really lucky -- a brand new one is sent. Of course given that test/replace (not repair) is the norm, the question still remains why it took so long for Bitmain to get a replacement out to them?
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<snip> Now I want to know what has bitmain given you for you beeing so arrugant?? be honnest??
Now considering that ^^ was in reference to a post from Tupsu who is certainly NOT a friend of Bitmain, rather amusing aye-what? Since it appears that this idiot is of the opinion that anyone not jumping on his honey truck to join them in the crap slinging has been paid off or whatever, now Ignored here. What a yutz... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Proof of no s9 sales to China? Without that you are just trolling. Zero interest in your idea
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You must make sure your neutral and ground are separated. install another ground rod at your breaker panel. <snip>
That violates every countries National Electric Codes. For power wiring a neutral must ALWAYS be tied to a ground at the incoming power panel. That is what makes it a Neutral vs just another Hot wire... Technically, the major distinction between Neutral and Ground wires is that Neutrals are for carrying current whereas Ground is strictly a safety wire. What you described is commonly referred to as 'isolated power' and is restricted for use only with very sensitive test equipment. A variant of it is an isolated ground setup (usually orange power sockets) that is much like you described except the neutral is still tied to ground but with care that the Neutral/Ground bonding only happens at 1 location. As to single phase PSU incoming power connections -- Makes no difference if L1 or L2 are Hot and the other is Neutral.
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Well, you have to keep in mind that from the time I started posting on this forum to about now, my total experience in actual bitcoin mining has been about a week or so. I'm kinda one of those "jump in and learn" kinda guys. Since I've been learning, I have switched over to ZPool and haven't had any complaints. Overall, I never expected to make a fortune (or possibly not even a RoI) but the experience is a neat one. I DO have access to free power which is kinda what propelled me into going for it.
If you guys have any tips or tricks you care to share, I'm a dry sponge and am ready to learn.
Thanks
Access to free power is a really good start to making money mining. That leads to parts 2 and 3 of the equation: 2) How much power/is it in a readily accessible area for miner maint? and 3) Heat removal from using said free power. Remember that miners are 100% perfect heaters -- all power fed in comes out as heat. A LOT of it!
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Working on remote monitoring of S9's, and the RPC API command 'devs' is not working for me. 'pools', 'summary', 'config', 'version' work fine and return information. 'devs' works on S7's.
Any suggestions on how to get the 'devs' info off the S9's using API or any other type of scripting from a linux box to the miner?
Most likely need to change the s9 miner software from Restricted API access to Privileged same as some s7's need done? Just had to do this on freaking 50 pcs S7 ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) Ouch! I know the last 2 s7's I bought (b18) are set to Restricted as well as 1-2 others from earlier batches. To do it I assume I'd use PuTTY to SSH in but from there... Where is the config file located? What editor and more to the point, what commands are used to change the permissions? And of course, wonder if this works with Bitmain's fork of Kano's CGminer on the s9? ...
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Working on remote monitoring of S9's, and the RPC API command 'devs' is not working for me. 'pools', 'summary', 'config', 'version' work fine and return information. 'devs' works on S7's.
Any suggestions on how to get the 'devs' info off the S9's using API or any other type of scripting from a linux box to the miner?
Most likely need to change the s9 miner software from Restricted API access to Privileged same as some s7's need done?
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I believe that you can also set up a cron job by ssh that runs a script to run the miner as needed each time of the day. I have personally done it with Spondoolies SP30 with little effort.
Just so ya know -- some s7's and all s9's operate in a restricted (vs Privilaged) API/SSH access mode... All operating data can be read but not all can be changed & saved outside of using Bitmain's GUI. My s7 b18 is one of them. M's Miner Monitor simply does not see it and I believe one from an earlier batch is the same. It also has never seen the s9's and since that program has been abandoned, that leaves Awesome Miner Monitor. Finally pointed Awesome at the s7 batch 18, yep. It sees it and reports it as restricted access. Gotta change that and the website for Awesome has some info on it http://www.awesomeminer.com/help/minerapi.aspx but..... a) does the privilege hack work for the s9? b) what 'ux is Bitmain using? What editor is in it? What are the edit commands... c) What is the file to be changed and where is it located?
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On my B2 s9 i been playing around with the anttool..And set the voltage and also try many mhz. So far i been seen pretty big different when i set the mhz at 587mhz and voltage at 0717. I got abit better hash around 12th/s and rw was pretty low on two of the blades.. But one had abit more.<snip>
Ant tools can set the voltage on s9's? Even though I got the v0.16 zip from Bitmain, the program shows v0.14 in the Title bar and the pull down for Miner Type only goes up to s7. So it works for the s9 as well? Using what miner type -- s7? Also, do the settings stick through a hard reboot or does Voltage go back to the default? Curious minds want to know...
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Very cool...but a little late...no chips will be sold to anyone by any manufacturer to make a miner for the general public ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I totally understand the pessimism. I've been watching Bitcoin since the GPU days and all the drama that has unfolded. IMO, if it doesn't change (ASIC companies not selling their chips) then they are going to be "holding the bag" and it won't be worth much. If they don't embrace us "little guys" sooner rather than later then I truly believe POW blockchains utilizing ASICs are doomed. We've chosen to be optimistic. We've chosen to work hard and share our efforts as much as possible with a bright hope of ASIC manufactures embracing us and working closely with us. We desire to become a 3rd party hardware manufacture that will also empower this community and give it a voice that cannot be ignored. All well & good,except...there are only 2 or 3 ASIC companies left,Avalon & Bitmain & BW(maybe Bitfury,I think they are dead or dying). They will not sell chips to anyone (in any meaningful amount),cause.....money,they make MORE profit keeping their chips & manufacturing in their CONTROL ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Not to mention the self mining they are doing to increase profit even further. So,unless YOU make YOUR OWN chips,YOU will have nothing to build or sell to us "little guys"............& your "voice" will be basically ignored,they'll be nice about it though I'm sure. Bitcoin has been in the commercial phase for a few years now & will get even more commercialized as the the few with chips & miners consolidate the hashrate in their favor. Best of luck,just don't hold your breath!!!! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) On BitFury, ja it is looking like their chip making divisions foray into 16nm will not make it to the Public. But BF as a whole... They do a helluva lot of other things including blockchain analytics so bottom line is probably still pretty good for them. The losses from 16nm chip making and of course related to that, any containerized farms they sold based on it will just be write off's to them and backers/investors. As for BTC being a commercial phase and becoming more so -- Satoshi or whoever came up with it designed that in from day-1. What it ultimately boils down to is that BTC block-found payout halving will always happen until finally all income is derived solely from Tx fees vs miner's finding blocks. The idea of course is that folks will have to pay reasonable Tx fees to use BTC -- like the CC card / banks/ PayPal. et al charge. Anyone looked at what the typical tx fees per block are currently? Hint: Not much vs the 12.5 BTC miners bounties... On CK pool typical best additional payout from Tx fee's that CK collects & distributes to us is around 1BTC.
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So I've been mining non-stop with my CCD for over 2 years! Working flawlessly since then at normal settings (no O/C), except for 1 non-functioning module which brought me to 600GH/S from 800GH/s..
LOL Same here been mining with 1 for over 2 years, and also lost 1 hashing board so i got 800GH/S instead of 1000 My antminers and LKETC miners havent lost a single board or chip and work under pretty extreme conditions ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Once Bitmine.ch finally paid attention to what had already been well documented in the A1 chip dev thread about heatsinking and the importance of a decent Vcore regulator design -- like makers of the Dragons and Dragon clones did -- ja the their A1 rigs worked well. Far to-little-much-too-late. If they had had competent VR circuit and PCB designers along with paying attention to thermals they could have finally started filling orders months earlier. The set of hash boards that Joshua Zipkin (now aka Joshua Alexander) owner of AMT (Bitmine's only Authorized USA dealer and using their PCB's) finally sent me in June 2014 for forensics covered Bitmine's revisions from late Jan up to June. All were riddled with the exact same major design flaws.
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How much do you dare to ramp up the Batch 1 units ? I do not dare to go higher than 656 ?
Good question. Anyone have a window air conditioner to put one in front of? I'd think that feeding in say 60F or less air temp or hooking the s9 to a high CFM blower, say 500-600CFM could let you boost a fair bit, maybe even 675. At the higher clocks (with cold inlet air) it will become more of a problem with just how much power the buck regulators on the hash boards can provide. To even hazard a guess on that need to know what FET's they use, maybe a pn for the rather hefty inductor as well and base the max current they can handle on that. Of course if Bitmain ever gets around to releasing the data sheets on their BM1387 chip then we'd have some of these answers. The sheet for the s7's BM'85 lists clock speeds almost up to 1GHz along with suggested Vcore to use...
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I've heard the easily replaceable hash board before (including from Bitmain) and it never quite works out the way you think it will. Have a look between the generations and try and work out how many Bitmain generations are a. board compatible and b. heatsink compatible and that'll give you an answer as to the sustainability.
Yes. This has by far been the most challenging aspect of the design. Varying sizes of chips and thickness. Surrounding components. Heat dissipation through the top of the chip or through the PCB. Different PCB layout where chips are now in new locations. It's no surprise where Bitmain is now: Individual Heat sinks for each ASIC. Our solution may not be elegant, but should work. Not ready to go into detail yet and the topic deserves its own thread. The surrounding components is a pretty important point -- mainly the decoupling caps around the chips and the bypass used for each node when powering a string. It may look like, "well just put some (random value) caps here and..." BUT -- the actual values and more importantly, where they are located and what type they are (material used) is of vital importance. You use different ASIC's, you will need to find a new set of optimum values for the caps or at a minimum, verify how the different ASIC's work with a compromise set of values. In many ways the power planes feeding ASIC's are much like RF circutry and must be treated as such or else you get some mighty weird and very localized dips/spikes in the 'DC' power feed to them. ref: http://powerelectronics.com/power-electronics-systems/five-things-every-engineer-should-know-about-pdn
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<snip> What was the shipping date your miners ? Bitmain staff CharlsYin confesses, that Dear Customer: Bitmain has determined that, in a small percentage of S9-B1 with 14T, the hast rate cant reach to the guaranteed 14T ±5%, The affected units were primarily shipped out on June 12, 2016. https://enforum.bitmain.com/bbs/topics/3554Hmm, good to know. My B1 has no problem hitting 14THs and evena bit higher -- provided I have an ambient of <80F. At a higher ambient I have to lower clock to 600MHz or just a step or 2 higher at most otherwise chip temp on board #3 hits 105C or higher...
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It is an ISP header. I pulled firmware off the first one to come in the shop back in Batch 1, but since it was a customer machine I wasn't authorized to do anything that would void the warranty. Only enough to get the chip number and a firmware dump. I haven't seen what it'd take to modify my S7 firmware for an S9 but it's probably not difficult, I just don't have one to test it on.
Tell ya what, I'll be getting 2 more when Bitmain has more s9's for sale so how about I have one drop shipped to ya to tinker with? One thing I'd like to be able to tweak is the starting voltage. On my batch-1 and one batch-3 it usually takes a couple reboots to get all the cards firing on all cylinders. On the b1 it is card-3 (the usually hot one) but oddly enough on the b3 it is the middle card that needs a few restarts to get up to speed.
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I think he should open up his S9 and re-arrange the boards. If the new arrangement results in chain #4 again running hotter, that should definitely prove the defective BMT engineering.
The hotter board caused by the lower airflow there is not 'defective engineering'. It was an accepted design choice. Since the boards in that location do work acceptably well then form-factor overrides perfection. Perfection is not only unneeded for most things, it is also usually very expensive to build. Part of Engineering is learning the very gray area between, "Well, it works" and "it works perfectly in all ways". Most often the final product will fall somewhere between those two points. For consumer goods the roadblock on the path to perfection is usually Marketing ideas of what that (perfection) is and cost. Now if we start seeing failures of that board more often than the others, then you have a case.
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