This site script was being auctioned here can you post website link here? I guess that many members would like to see what is in the offer
also more information about traffic statistics, proof of earnings etc.. will be helpful
regards
https://win-bits.com for proof of earnings contact admin of the site i dont own the site i just created it .. i can upload a singed text if you want on it regards This guy asked owner for help here: i would like to buy the lottery script can you help me with the install pls ?
Made shill post here: thanks i won already one time on your site the 24hours round  congrats with your winning thank you i love your site ! More games are coming we are doing our best thanks if i understand it good i deposit 0.25BTC and get 0.5BTC and 0.25 i can withdraw again instant? Same language with this shill: i have played before without there was deposit option.. i won then 0.04btc can i still participate in the deposit bonus that u use now ?
what is your username on the website ? i will check your account MajorJ1989 email= mofo1989@gmail.comthank you yes you can still participate the bonus. max is 0.25BTC! Regards oke so if i understand it correct i can depsoit 0.25 bitcoin and then get 0.5 bitcoin ? and i dont need to play with my 0.25 bitcoin ? im i allowed to withdraw my 0.25 bitcoin directly ? Dealing with same script seller: Hi
I want to spend 20 EURO for a Bitcoin Doubler with admin.
I want to run a good website, with real withdraw and deposits.
i want to have also a admin panel to control everything.
who can help me! send me a private message with proof and demo.
Thanks Alot greetings Bjorn from Holland.
check http://cubefaucet.com/script-shop/ admin is helping me with casino script |
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Dear TwitchySeal.The reason why we do not respond your comment is that you did not not provide the direct question. What particular information are you interested in? Feel free to ask!
For the last week, month quarter and Year: How many deposits were made and for how much. How many withdraws were made and for how much. How many bonuses were given and for how much. Currently: How many players have funds left in their account, what is the total of all these funds and their ratio of bonus restricted/unrestricted funds? |
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C522YxrrzBWJArwg5:
bet created: "2016-10-15T17:30:50.170Z"
tx reverted: "2016-10-15 17:31:06"
Hk9BgNhpH8jbbTKeh
bet created: "2016-10-15T17:32:40.059Z"
tx reverted: "2016-10-15 17:32:55"
nibBfRDRf52Ej7ZsY
bet created: "2016-10-15T18:17:33.548Z"
tx reverted: "2016-10-15 18:17:55"
ZfuTYqyHDCrdzCZRe
bet created: "2016-10-15T18:22:52.343Z"
tx confirmed: "2016-10-15 18:23:00
What were the Bets on, and is there any time stamp of the actual bets offered? He said he was betting on the o/u of the Clemson Game. Was the bet right at the start or end of halftime?There were 2 touchdowns within 19 seconds of gameplay in that game. (one with 10 sec left in first half, then another 9 seconds after halftime) Just trying to feel out who's taking a shot at who here. Just to clarify your question, I attempted this bet starting WELL before half. Like 5 minutes of game play and around 10 minutes of actual time. I am obviously in the right, as 3 of their admin have admitted to me, but they must be desperately strapped for cash, because instead of making it right, they have only decided to give me 1000 mBTC as some kind of "promotion." Kind of a slap in the face to be honest. Scammed me out of over 5000 mBTC and then give me 1000 mBTC to try and smooth things over. Also an admission of guilt. Oh well. It's not totally obvious from the outside looking in, to be fair. I was leaning towards you taking a shot at them when I saw the two scores immediately before and after HT. They should be looking at what was happening in the game at the time the bet was placed and objectivly decide whether or not the bet was a reasonable. If what you say is true about it being several minutes before halftime, and there were no other events in the game that happened within a minute or so leading up to the time you placed the bet, and the odds were reasonable and not an obvious mistake on their part, then they should honor the bet. I suggest you do your best to reconstruct exactly which plays you made the bet between. Exactly how much you bet and at what odds And what happened in the few plays before and after/when it was cancelled (and make it easy to read) So sportsbet.io have you taken all this into consideration?
C522YxrrzBWJArwg5:
bet created: "2016-10-15T17:30:50.170Z"
tx reverted: "2016-10-15 17:31:06"
Hk9BgNhpH8jbbTKeh
bet created: "2016-10-15T17:32:40.059Z"
tx reverted: "2016-10-15 17:32:55"
nibBfRDRf52Ej7ZsY
bet created: "2016-10-15T18:17:33.548Z"
tx reverted: "2016-10-15 18:17:55"
ZfuTYqyHDCrdzCZRe
bet created: "2016-10-15T18:22:52.343Z"
tx confirmed: "2016-10-15 18:23:00
What were the Bets on, and is there any time stamp of the actual bets offered? He said he was betting on the o/u of the Clemson Game. Was the bet right at the start or end of halftime?There were 2 touchdowns within 19 seconds of gameplay in that game. (one with 10 sec left in first half, then another 9 seconds after halftime) Just trying to feel out who's taking a shot at who here. bump^^^ |
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Could you please stop ignoring me?
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Betcoin mod (son of 'betcoin pro' plo8monster) teaching other players how to make money as an affiliate; tell players to make new account if their first one isn't credited to you.  |
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The reseed( BTC1.299) money is missing from Betcoins BBJP. It should of been reset to 28,594 3 days ago. It's only at 27,460 right now.  |
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Ok let's pretend god just came down from the heavens and said "Hi there, Mike, I know the answer to twitchyseals question. Give me a number within 10 of the correct answer and you will get an awesome prize, otherwise something awful happens. You have 10 seconds starting NOW" What's the number mike? Same thing for this question: In your personal honest opinion how confident are you that btcgmbling had malicious intent to defraud you or was guilty of anything other than not knowing your rules, on a scale of 1 - 100 , with 100 being absolutely certain he was guilty and 0 being certain he was innocent.
Just a number. Hi there, I wouldn't give him any number as I do not believe in being threatened to come up with an answer to a question like that. Mike The excuses you're coming up with to avoid answering my questions are based on the same logic you use to justify seizing all that money. |
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say mofo1989=drJayB=OP oke so if i understand it correct i can depsoit 0.25 bitcoin and then get 0.5 bitcoin ? and i dont need to play with my 0.25 bitcoin ? im i allowed to withdraw my 0.25 bitcoin directly ? if i understand it good i deposit 0.25BTC and get 0.5BTC and 0.25 i can withdraw again instant?
This is what a scam looks like people. whether to deposit in advance to be able to get your free ticket here?
just register and login then you will find your deposit wallet to get the bonus yuo deposit MAX 0.25BTC and you recieve 0.5BTC 0.25BTC is without playthrough so you can withdraw instant again. and 0.25BTC is just to play and buy tickets (winnings from that are directly for you) + you recieve on deposit automatic 5 tickets for the winbits monthly round regards |
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I'm trying to figure out how often you think you're seizing funds from "genuine players"
How often is "very rare"?
How many possible "genuine players" do you think have had their funds seized by Bitstarz?
Hi there, Again, I don't have a number for you. But, let me say that we have thousands of new players at BitStarz every month. How many complaints have you found on forums or gambling advocate sites in relation to that number? That's how rare. Mike Ok let's pretend god just came down from the heavens and said "Hi there, Mike, I know the answer to twitchyseals question. Give me a number within 10 of the correct answer and you will get an awesome prize, otherwise something awful happens. You have 10 seconds starting NOW" What's the number mike? Same thing for this question: In your personal honest opinion how confident are you that btcgmbling had malicious intent to defraud you or was guilty of anything other than not knowing your rules, on a scale of 1 - 100 , with 100 being absolutely certain he was guilty and 0 being certain he was innocent.
Just a number. |
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In your personal honest opinion how confident are you that btcgmbling had malicious intent to defraud you or was guilty of anything other than not knowing your rules, on a scale of 1 - 100 , with 100 being absolutely certain he was guilty and 0 being certain he was innocent.
Just a number.
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I'm asking about the violation rate though, not confiscation rate.
Here's another question to think about:
If we got in a time machine and went back to replay the last year and the only difference was a rule that forced you destroy all seized fund: what % of players would have been paid previously had their funds taken?
Hi there, Of the violation rate, still extremely low. You have to realize that the average player is not someone who bets that amount per spin, therefore a lot of players are not affected by the rule. Can you re-formulate that question? Mike Consider all the players that had their cashouts cancelled over the past year for betting over the max with a bonus. If you weren't allowed to keep their money for yourself, what % of them would have been paid. Hi there, Hard to answer, again, it's very rare that a genuine player would get trapped in any way, and I'd rather give it to a charity (as some land based ones have to do I believe) than paying out a bonus abuser. Mike I'm trying to figure out how often you think you're seizing funds from "genuine players" How often is "very rare"? How many possible "genuine players" do you think have had their funds seized by Bitstarz? |
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I'm asking about the violation rate though, not confiscation rate.
Here's another question to think about:
If we got in a time machine and went back to replay the last year and the only difference was a rule that forced you destroy all seized fund: what % of players would have been paid previously had their funds taken?
Hi there, Of the violation rate, still extremely low. You have to realize that the average player is not someone who bets that amount per spin, therefore a lot of players are not affected by the rule. Can you re-formulate that question? Mike Consider all the players that had their cashouts cancelled over the past year for betting over the max with a bonus. If you weren't allowed to keep their money for yourself, what % of them would have been paid. |
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Just answer the question please. If you went out at got 100 random people who have never gambled online before, and you gave them 1 bitcoin or 600 euro each for them to deposit on your site after signing up, and reading the terms and conditions.
What's the over under on how many of them commit a violation that gives bitstarz the right to seize their winnings? ( all new players that know very little about gambling, none of them have any malicious intentions) If the over under is 0.5, that means there's a 50% chance that 1 or more players violate a term and a 50% chance that 0 do. I think it would be much higher at Bitstarz. What do you think it would be? What do you think would be acceptable? Hi there, I don't have any exact statistics on that, we do not keep track of how many people that are breaching that rule and is suffering the consequences, as again, we let many slide. I can just say that they are a very small minority as I personally get to hear about them, and I also know the amount of active players we have in the casino and the amount of new players we get in. So, you thinking it's much higher at BitStarz, what do you base that figure on? A few people writing about it in the forum when we have thousands of continuous new depositing players? I'd rather focus on the circumstances rather than a number. This is a case by case question. If you suddenly get overrun by a mob of fraudsters opening 100 accounts each and try to claim the welcome package an equal amount of times, I think the ratio is less relevant. What should be focused on is detecting and separating the genuine players from the abusers. Mike I'm not asking you for exact statistics. I'm asking your opinion. This is a hypothetical situation. If you went out at got 100 random people who have never gambled online before, and you gave them 1 bitcoin or 600 euro each for them to deposit on your site after signing up, and reading the terms and conditions.
What's the over under on how many of them commit a violation that gives bitstarz the right to seize their winnings? ( all new players that know very little about gambling, none of them have any malicious intentions) Hi there, Well, you got a more elaborate answer above here, so I hope that answers your question. But I see your point, and at BitStarz, less than 5% would have anything confiscated in the casino. I just want to point out that this, it depends on what markets you operate in and a lot of other factors. Bonus abuse in general tend to be more likely in certain markets than others. Just as you would assume that corruption or any other type of crime would be more wide-spread in certain areas. Therefore, what markets you operate in could make a huge difference to how many people get confiscated, I hope that makes sense. To answer your question, I believe that the confiscation rate should be way lower than 5% to be fair, and that's what it is at BitStarz. Mike I'm asking about the violation rate though, not confiscation rate. Here's another question to think about: If we got in a time machine and went back to replay the last year and the only difference was a rule that forced you destroy all seized fund: what % of players would have been paid previously had their funds taken? |
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I will not engage in this back and forth.
We all know you are not happy, just like we know there are many happy players at BetChain and many readers without an opinion.
wtf? I'm not unhappy. Here you can verify:  But really, when a player sends you their real ID, as im sure many do, who else has access to it? CS at other softswiss sites? Does softswiss have access? Other sites with Direx license? Can any Betchain CS worker access any players data? |
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You seem to just want to fight, and not read my answers.
We didn't change our policy about collecting documentation, we just added a selfie with the ID to confirm the player is the same person as the ID he is using as an extra security, to address #3&4, which you wrote I didn't answer.
Ok well it sure seems like that's exactly what you said here: Hi,
Due to a syndicate which recently targeted our site and took advantage of our no deposit bonuses, it is our policy for a few months to collect the selfie with IDs for no deposit bonus winners.
Our Terms and Conditions also mention providing ID in other paragraphs.
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As I stated before, the players who upload their selfie with their ID get paid on their winnings from their no deposit bonuses, I cannot help but wonder why you said we are waiting to ask them for something else once they upload their selfies.
This is why: The selfies show that the person and the documentation are the same being and help to prevent fraud.
What documentation are you talking about? A picture of someone holding their ID by itself does not verify that it's the the person who sent it and opened the account...You can't verify anything by asking an otherwise unknown person to send a picture of a person holding their ID. Your policy accomplishes very little other than expose your players to the possibility of identity theft. These questions are all very legitimate and it's pretty alarming that you still haven't answered them. Id really like you to answer these questions before I send you my sensitive information.
What happens to my selfie after I send it to you? Who looks at it? Do you save it? For how long? Do you encrypt it? What type of encryption? Who controlls it? Betchain? Softswiss? Where is it stored? Where is your office? What country? |
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It's not a policy change, it's an extra level of protection and documentation. You just told me that it's been your policy because of what happened a few months ago. As in, it wasn't your policy before, but it is now. Remember? Due to a syndicate which recently targeted our site and took advantage of our no deposit bonuses, it is our policy for a few months to collect the selfie with IDs
Regardless...WHY AREN"T YOU TELLING PLAYER The selfies holding their ID are uploaded by the player to the players account, just like other required documentation.
The selfies show that the person and the documentation are the same being and help to prevent fraud.
So if a players account is ever compromised, so will any documents they send you? Also - What documentation? Isn't this what you wrote to a player that you had not collected any other information on? Dear Player,
We would like you to upload a photo of yourself holding your ID in your hand. Please, make sure that all the details are clearly seen. It will help us speed up your account verification and withdrawal process. Were you going to wait till they sent the selfie to ask for something else? you forgot 3 and 4 btw. 3) Do you have any policy about adding or changing your rules without updating them on your website or notifying players? 4) How does a selfie verify someones identity if you don't know who they are first? You're basically just asking for a picture of anyone in the world that's old enough holding their id. Why? |
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We continually responded to the player, I am not sure why you wrote we didn't?
Because he made a post about how you wouldn't answer his questions and at first just kept saying "Unfortunately, our programmers have advised us that this is necessary to process wins from no deposit bonuses." over and over. Then you just didn't respond. You responded with to his post about this with: our programmers advised we always receive a selfie with the player's ID in order to process a cashout from a no deposit bonus. This makes me think the player was telling the truth. Also, you've ignored most of what I've said. I wonder if maybe you just read the first few words and then respond to players before finishing the rest? Is that it? Maybe it will help if I number them and change the font? 1) What do you do with these selfies that you receive? (I mean after you look at them)
2) Why aren't you informing players of your policy change when offering the promotion?
3) Do you have any policy about adding or changing your rules without updating them on your website or notifying players?
4) How does a selfie verify someones identity if you don't know who they are first? You're basically just asking for a picture of anyone in the world that's old enough holding their id. Why?
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Hi,
Due to a syndicate which recently targeted our site and took advantage of our no deposit bonuses, it is our policy for a few months to collect the selfie with IDs for no deposit bonus winners.
Our Terms and Conditions also mention providing ID in other paragraphs.
Ok, so why aren't you informing players of this policy when you offer the promotion? Is it your policy to add or change your rules without updating them on your website or notifying players? Why didn't you respond to the player? Why did you ignore my other questions? Ouch!!!
We're talking about Terms and Conditions and we have to abide by them.
I don't see selfies mentioned anywhere in the terms and conditions. I also notice that you didn't say that the player is required to send the info. You said it would speed up the process and that someone advised you to get it. The player didn't refuse to submit his information, he just asked for an explanation first. And he has a point. How does a selfie verify someones identity if you don't know who they are first? You're basically just asking for a picture of anyone in the world that's old enough holding their id. Why? Why didn't you answer the player's questions the first time? I'm also curious, what do you do with these selfies that you receive? Do you save them? I also noticed your privacy policy: PRIVACY POLICY This Privacy Policy governs the manner in which BetChain collects, uses, maintains and discloses information collected from users (each, a “User”) of the www.betchain.com website (“Site”). This privacy policy applies to the Site and all products and services offered by BetChain. Personal identification information We may collect personal identification information from Users in a variety of ways, including, but not limited to, when Users visit our site, register on the site, place an order, and in connection with other activities, services, features or resources we make available on our Site. Users may be asked for, as appropriate, email address. Users may, however, visit our Site anonymously. We will collect personal identification information from Users only if they voluntarily submit such information to us. Users can always refuse to supply personally identification information, except that it may prevent them from engaging in certain Site related activities.So you're saying: -We won't have your ID unless you give it to us. -People are allowed to look at our site without giving us their ID. Why not just say: -If you don't give us your ID when we ask, we might not pay you. |
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