bitstars.net (OP)
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October 25, 2016, 08:12:44 PM |
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So why not ban those games that offer odds for players doing bonus use? You noticed the bigger bitcoin casinos don't have wager restrictions. But instead of you adjusting your terms you rather try and fight the bad publicity that is directed to your casino.
Hi there, We are limiting certain games that are popular among bonus abusers, or restricting them for bonus wager I should say. Real money players can still use them just fine. It's not only certain games that could be used to bonus abuse, wager patterns can be used too. Mike
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bitstars.net (OP)
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October 25, 2016, 08:15:48 PM |
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I'm trying to figure out how often you think you're seizing funds from "genuine players"
How often is "very rare"?
How many possible "genuine players" do you think have had their funds seized by Bitstarz?
Hi there, Again, I don't have a number for you. But, let me say that we have thousands of new players at BitStarz every month. How many complaints have you found on forums or gambling advocate sites in relation to that number? That's how rare. Mike
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btcgmbling
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October 25, 2016, 08:37:11 PM |
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I'm asking about the violation rate though, not confiscation rate.
Here's another question to think about:
If we got in a time machine and went back to replay the last year and the only difference was a rule that forced you destroy all seized fund: what % of players would have been paid previously had their funds taken?
Hi there, Of the violation rate, still extremely low. You have to realize that the average player is not someone who bets that amount per spin, therefore a lot of players are not affected by the rule. Can you re-formulate that question? Mike Consider all the players that had their cashouts cancelled over the past year for betting over the max with a bonus. If you weren't allowed to keep their money for yourself, what % of them would have been paid. Hi there, Hard to answer, again, it's very rare that a genuine player would get trapped in any way, and I'd rather give it to a charity (as some land based ones have to do I believe) than paying out a bonus abuser.
MikeHey Mike, I was a genuine player who got trapped by your terms. Even though I still conclude that I did nothing wrong, please donate my 20 btc winnings to the Wounded Warriors Project ($13,099 USD). It is quite clear that I will never see this btc again, so like you said, it would be nice to at least see it go to a good cause rather than a big bad "bonus abuser" like me. If you do so and provide sufficient proof, then I will view my issue as resolved and be completely satisfied. This wold give me a little peace of mind, and I would finally be able to rest after battling with you for 6 months now with no resolution.
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October 25, 2016, 09:07:59 PM |
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I'm trying to figure out how often you think you're seizing funds from "genuine players"
How often is "very rare"?
How many possible "genuine players" do you think have had their funds seized by Bitstarz?
Hi there, Again, I don't have a number for you. But, let me say that we have thousands of new players at BitStarz every month. How many complaints have you found on forums or gambling advocate sites in relation to that number? That's how rare. Mike Ok let's pretend god just came down from the heavens and said "Hi there, Mike, I know the answer to twitchyseals question. Give me a number within 10 of the correct answer and you will get an awesome prize, otherwise something awful happens. You have 10 seconds starting NOW" What's the number mike? Same thing for this question: In your personal honest opinion how confident are you that btcgmbling had malicious intent to defraud you or was guilty of anything other than not knowing your rules, on a scale of 1 - 100 , with 100 being absolutely certain he was guilty and 0 being certain he was innocent.
Just a number.
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bitstars.net (OP)
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October 26, 2016, 04:34:43 AM Last edit: October 26, 2016, 04:49:40 AM by bitstars.net |
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Ok let's pretend god just came down from the heavens and said "Hi there, Mike, I know the answer to twitchyseals question. Give me a number within 10 of the correct answer and you will get an awesome prize, otherwise something awful happens. You have 10 seconds starting NOW" What's the number mike? Same thing for this question: In your personal honest opinion how confident are you that btcgmbling had malicious intent to defraud you or was guilty of anything other than not knowing your rules, on a scale of 1 - 100 , with 100 being absolutely certain he was guilty and 0 being certain he was innocent.
Just a number. Hi there, I wouldn't give him any number as I do not believe in being threatened to come up with an answer to a question like that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Mike
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October 26, 2016, 04:53:36 AM |
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Ok let's pretend god just came down from the heavens and said "Hi there, Mike, I know the answer to twitchyseals question. Give me a number within 10 of the correct answer and you will get an awesome prize, otherwise something awful happens. You have 10 seconds starting NOW" What's the number mike? Same thing for this question: In your personal honest opinion how confident are you that btcgmbling had malicious intent to defraud you or was guilty of anything other than not knowing your rules, on a scale of 1 - 100 , with 100 being absolutely certain he was guilty and 0 being certain he was innocent.
Just a number. Hi there, I wouldn't give him any number as I do not believe in being threatened to come up with an answer to a question like that. Mike The excuses you're coming up with to avoid answering my questions are based on the same logic you use to justify seizing all that money.
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bitstars.net (OP)
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October 26, 2016, 05:04:50 AM |
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The excuses you're coming up with to avoid answering my questions are based on the same logic you use to justify seizing all that money.
Hi there, It seems that any answer I give to you is not good enough. I've already mentioned that I don't have any exact statistics on the amount of violators, but have given you a ratio of players vs. violators and asked your to make up your own mind regarding the numbers. Regarding the other player being an abuser, it's hard for me to tell as well and I don't have an answer for you. Mike
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bvalis
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October 26, 2016, 06:47:44 AM |
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bitstars.net (OP)
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October 26, 2016, 06:52:16 AM |
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Hi there, Thanks so much for that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I hope you've used the 20 free spins yourself! Mike
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bvalis
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October 26, 2016, 07:20:24 AM |
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Hello! Oh, but i really do like this pic! Keep up the good work! | ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitstarz.com%2Fsystem%2Fcomfy%2Fcms%2Ffiles%2Ffiles%2F000%2F001%2F209%2Foriginal%2FBitstars_ForumBig_newoffer-2.jpg&t=665&c=Hsp7Yl0nPKeZcg) Reach the stars at bitstarz.com | |
Hi there, Thanks so much for that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I hope you've used the 20 free spins yourself! Mike sorry, no bonuses to activate under bonuses tab ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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len01
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October 26, 2016, 07:21:06 AM |
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Hi there, Thanks so much for that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I hope you've used the 20 free spins yourself! Mike just sign up on this site, nice site how to get 20 free spin? thanks
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bitstars.net (OP)
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October 26, 2016, 08:00:16 AM |
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Hello! Oh, but i really do like this pic! Keep up the good work! | ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitstarz.com%2Fsystem%2Fcomfy%2Fcms%2Ffiles%2Ffiles%2F000%2F001%2F209%2Foriginal%2FBitstars_ForumBig_newoffer-2.jpg&t=665&c=Hsp7Yl0nPKeZcg) Reach the stars at bitstarz.com | |
Hi there, Thanks so much for that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I hope you've used the 20 free spins yourself! Mike just sign up on this site, nice site how to get 20 free spin? thanks Just PM me your username and I'll help you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Mike
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bitstars.net (OP)
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October 26, 2016, 08:14:06 AM |
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just sign up on this site, nice site how to get 20 free spin? thanks
Just PM me your username and I'll help you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Mike Spins added, have fun! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Mike
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bvalis
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October 26, 2016, 08:34:26 AM Last edit: October 26, 2016, 08:54:16 AM by bvalis |
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just sign up on this site, nice site how to get 20 free spin? thanks
Just PM me your username and I'll help you ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Mike Spins added, have fun! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Mike All good! Was fun, thanks! made like 2 bucks from 20 free spins and wasted all on some game didnt understand because didnt check the help ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) )
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Lucky7btc
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October 26, 2016, 12:56:53 PM |
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Hello! Oh, but i really do like this pic! Keep up the good work! | ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitstarz.com%2Fsystem%2Fcomfy%2Fcms%2Ffiles%2Ffiles%2F000%2F001%2F209%2Foriginal%2FBitstars_ForumBig_newoffer-2.jpg&t=665&c=Hsp7Yl0nPKeZcg) Reach the stars at bitstarz.com | |
The free spins are on the worst possible slot they have. You be lucky to get 1 mbtc back
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bitstars.net (OP)
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October 26, 2016, 01:07:40 PM |
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The free spins are on the worst possible slot they have. You be lucky to get 1 mbtc back
Hi there, Well, some people like them and some don't, then thankfully they're free right? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Mike
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len01
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October 26, 2016, 02:45:37 PM |
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Hello! Oh, but i really do like this pic! Keep up the good work! | ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bitstarz.com%2Fsystem%2Fcomfy%2Fcms%2Ffiles%2Ffiles%2F000%2F001%2F209%2Foriginal%2FBitstars_ForumBig_newoffer-2.jpg&t=665&c=Hsp7Yl0nPKeZcg) Reach the stars at bitstarz.com | |
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October 27, 2016, 12:35:12 AM |
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The free spins are on the worst possible slot they have. You be lucky to get 1 mbtc back
Hi there, Well, some people like them and some don't, then thankfully they're free right? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Mike They are most of the time extremely expensive.
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October 27, 2016, 03:37:37 AM |
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The free spins are on the worst possible slot they have. You be lucky to get 1 mbtc back
Hi there, Well, some people like them and some don't, then thankfully they're free right? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Mike They're free until you deposit and win, then all your bitcoins get confiscated. Then it's not so free anymore.
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Dyatrev
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October 27, 2016, 03:46:49 AM |
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after all things they do you guys still playing at their scamy site so weird ppl so eager to get scammed ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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