It looks like this turn out to be a debate between anonymous and psuedo anonymity of bitcoin. Lol.

Bitcoin is psuedo anonymous everyone can still be tracked specially if you used centralised exchange that requires or enforces KYC. There are mixers or tumblers to keep you away from the prying eyes of the public, or even conjoins + TOR.

Thanks for the fair warning, specially that we are under a crisis, even those scammers will not rest and have taken advantage of the covid-19 and created a lot of fake websites trying to lure a lot of people. So all of us need to be very vigilant as there are reports of people losing their money on such scam like this one.

PLEASE BEWARE - 14,000 XRP stolen from Ledger. So we really need to educate ourselves and people around us that they need to be very careful and cautious.

Binance has a lot of capital they are growing and expanding. I don't know though why they targeted coinmarketcap, maybe they have a big plan after all.


And then we have to wait and see what will be this big chances. Are they going to not accept scam advertisements now? This is what majority complains when visiting coinmarketcap, a lot of banners and the old management doesn't give a damn if they advertisement a scam projects on their site. I do hope that with Binance, it will chance.

I agree, but you can't really blame people for being gullible enough to invest on crypto and lost money, specially if you're a beginner. I personally lost some, not in ICO, but on a bitcoin double years ago. I was just a newbie then, and I thought why not? so I invest and it's good because I was able to get a pay. But then I re-invested it again. And sadly, the scammers pull an exit scam.

It was really an eye opener for me and I have learn my lessons very expensive one. Anyways, I move forward never trust anyone with my precious cryptos.

I agree, maybe there are people who prefer exchanges mobile apps. But personally, I'm an old school and would rather do my trading in a huge PC screen or even a laptop. I guess to others, it's very convenient as they can do the trades on the fly. However, you need to be very careful, as a simply mistakes might lead t to a big lost on your end. Plus, I think mobile apps are less secure as compare to desktops so the risk is high as well as far as security. Perhaps you can used the mobile apps just to check, but for trading purposes I would say a desktop or laptop will be a better option.

This is a billion dollar business, and Binance is on top of it, and as much as we don't want this to happen, at the end of the day, the people behind coinmarketcap will have to make more money out of their business and it just so happen that Binance is more willing. We can't really stop that.

So it's either you learn to accept that fact, or move on and not trust coinmarketcap when Binance takes over, you don't need to overreact to it and call it the end of decentralisation and crypto.

Good argument but I don't think that Internet will become the most expensive, on the contrary, I believed it will become more cheaper as we advance this technology. Today I'm paying around 25$ for a 10 Mbps. Yes, you might say that this is expensive basing on the speed as compare to other countries. But I used to pay $50 back then just like 10 years ago, and back then the service has horrible, and the company has a poor service.

But with the advent of latest trend, and more companies joining the picture, services here become cheap because of competition. Actually you can see a lot of marketing in the streets trying to lure someone to get out of their current services provider and moved to the new and latest and fastest provider. Although, I'm locked for 1 year, which I just renew every year. They even offer me some Iphone (old model obviously) just to keep me with them, Lol.

Obviously, it is, I think there are people who have made money out of this Corona related project, but it is very dangerous for a newbie to join thinking that they are making a difference by investing on this so called coins.

Now it has proven that motivates those actors behind, not to really help people but take the money out of unsuspecting victim. And I'm sure, one-by-one, these kind of projects are going to exit scam and it's going to be too late before someone realised that.

To simplify:

 - BTC enthusiast or BTC maximalist to take the money to buy more bitcoin

 - new interested people coming in because they heard that bitcoin is a good leverage will buy pushing the
   price to the next level.

In theory this might work, but then how many are smart and see bitcoin's many benefit? Will they really go to an assets as volatile as bitcoin? Or would rather stay safe and put those money in other markets? There's still a lot of factors to consider before someone really put their fiat on bitcoin at this point.

But I guess top caliber tennis athletes knows how to pace themselves to really get out of the boredom right now and push themselves as if there is no lockdown at all. I would agree, but I think some players can play with each others as some of them are close to each other. Or they can even hire someone to play against and just to keep them busy. Not going into full swing, but at least the mental game is still there and it will be just needed to turn on the switch again if the game resumes in June or whatever timeframe it is.

Of course, technically, every coin is good to invest specially at low price.

But you have to be very careful, you have to always monitor the price of it, so there is a big risk on your end. Although it has been listed on Binance, it doesn't mean that the coin is really that good to be able to make it through this bear market. Binance has the uncanny practice of just delisted tokens, so we really don't know how far can this coin go before being delisted. So if there is no liquidity, just a matter of time before it will be delisted, just saying.

I think everyone government around the world today are thinking of their people and how to help them alleviate the current and looming recession. As you have said, US stimulus package, but I think it will not be enough though. We can only get that much help from the government, sad to say, to each its own right now.

As for crypto enthusiast, yes we have some leverage, specially if you have save a lot in the last couple of years. But I don't know if that is also enough to last in the next 12-18 months. I have buckets of like 6 -12 months, but I need to also conserve it because we really don't know what's going to happen if vaccine has not yet discovered 12-18 months from now.

And I already don't understand how people are gullible to join those scam telegram groups even though they have been warned. And then when they lost their hard earn money, they will bitch around in this community and shouting out that they have been scammed by this so called trading signals groups. When are people going to learn from the past mistakes of others? Do they really need to wait to experience the same thing to them?

So this is a continuous battle, once his group is deleted-> make another group scam people, his Telegram being reported-> shutdown by Telegram-> create another group.

Yes 50/50 would be a good ratio. We all know that bitcoin is not yet universally accepted ay payment option so I guess if given the chance to received a paycheck again? I would allot 50% of that and the rest fiat so that I can used it for my daily needs.

The beauty of it is that you can hedge at least 50% of your salary to bitcoin, some sort of savings in the long run.

From what I understand, this is a new strain so definitely scientist was caught off guard. And even though we have far advanced regarding medical technologies, there are still a lot of unknowns, just like in this case. So it really takes time to developed something like a vaccine to fight this virus. So there's a lot of experiments to be done her, before medical experts can finally say that they already find a cure. So we can't really compare those pandemics to corona virus as far as the number of deaths.

As far as those conspiracy theories, I don't want to delve with that, I already form my own opinion.

Yes, I understand, what I meant is that I used that image you posted on Bill Gates to look for similar sites, since you haven't posted the site itself.

And it seems scammers are using it as a tool to lure potential victims to their scam websites.

Another similar site:

Basing on previous historically logs, it seems to be the only catalyst for the imminent bull run that we all have been waiting, but with the corona virus outbreak, after the halving, it might take some time to see that bull run.


Short term? No, but long term, if the stimulus package that US is going to do, there could be US investors that might put that money in crypto, in my opinion.


So-so, we are still the bear market, so I doubt that projects and bounties are going to be that profitable. So it's going to be very difficult year.

Yes, thats obviously a scam site. You should at least post the site here using the code tag so that it won't be clickable and Google won't scrawl here.


Anyhow, I try to investigate using the Bill Gates image above, and I got a hit:


I think it is a review of a so called
Which is very similar, but one thing is for sure, those are scam sites and probably run by the same scam ring, so good catch.

Ok we understand your situation, indeed New York has been turning out to be the next ground zero.

I think you are not alone though, specially the panic that we have seen lately causing lots of investors to really cash it out because of the scare. Stay safe!

@Dildo Shwaggins - yeah, the fundamentals might not have change, but we haven't seen this kind of pandemic, BTC was born out of recession, this is a big test for crypto holders.

I got confused about what the author of the article is saying:


When did bitcoin become a stable asset? We all know for a fact the bitcoin is very volatile, that's why old and traditional stock person doesn't want to invest on it.