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5161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The House always wins. on: September 12, 2016, 04:26:15 AM
Of course it can be rigged. Gambling is retarded. Why would you even gamble, if not for fun with cents?

You can gamble just for fun. I'm doing it, and it really is fun. There are websites like PrimeDice featuring faucets too, so you're getting free money to play with.

Not only primedice but many other sites give your free money to try their games but if your gambling only for fun then you should do it only sometimes instead playing every day because it may slowly lead you to addiction and later on you may start playing with your many and end up losing a lot of money in gambling. So you should very careful even though you're playing with free money.

I think Fortunejack, Rollins and some more sites also give free coins to play. So you can use these sites also to play for fun. With free coin we can just play for fun here, we will not make money. But yes this lead us to addict to gambling. We can not play more time with free coins it will get bored and the games also not exciting because it's free right if we lose also we don't care.

Playing with this free  satoshis would  definitely  make you a gambling addict when you intend to  play almost everyday. It  wont really hurt us  if we lose  those money but on the time we won  on that free money then lose in the end our emotion would build  up to deposit our money  to  expand your betting style. I believe this kind  of strategy of gambling sites help  to get players   from their site. IMHO
5162  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: September 12, 2016, 04:23:18 AM
I would do nothing because  there is not much that I can do  if I am in need of money. I can loan money but I don't like that,  because I would have to pay  it back after a while..
Same here I also cannot do any thing just have to wait and try to solve this because lending is never been good option for me as mostly I dig and have start some other problems with this loan so just wait and watch for some other and better solution is very good option for me

Same here, i usually find  the  possible ways on  how  to seek money first  for my problem regarding financial before i   decide  to take a loan  from someone as  my last resort. I agee with you i dont  like to start  a problems regarding with loans since it  a  little bit hard for me  to pay on short terms loans.
5163  Economy / Economics / Re: Why have Bitcoin instead of cash? on: September 12, 2016, 04:18:29 AM
You can save bitcoins as  long as possible because it can not be touched  physically so we wont  loose it, but money are made from  paper and it can be broken,someone can burn it or  use another ways to break it.

You are right in that sense no one can harm your bitcoins as they are saved in our wallets in pure form, but if some one do not know about to secure his/her wallet then the chances are there to hack by someone, so the security and safety of bitcoin is also important.

True, you have a point bitcoin can be easily stored in our wallets  and the risk of lossing it is lesser compared to cash but both of these things have ways on how to secure it because money is valuable for us. Both had also risk on lossing on bitcoin  it can possibly be hacked or  forgotten wallet password.
5164  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: September 12, 2016, 04:15:07 AM
iam choose trading bitcoin is compare gold
because fast growth in capital money, but is gold trading online use forex n meta trader
is gold very danger because all capital money can lost
Trading in bitcoin is much better than gold , where you don't need knowledge to do trade altcoin/bitcoin.
As long as you have funds , and read the updates about coin , you can go with it.

Trading is Bitcoin or Alt coin is not only better but also it can give you faster profits. Gold Price is almost steady and it will take a lot of time to get a profit from it.

because gold is very safe, so it takes a long time to benefit.
but trade altcoin and bitcoin has a big risk, but the benefits are also very big and can be obtained in a short time.
I myself will still pick bitcoin/atlcoin that could benefit a lot in a short time, though the risk is great, if you are a bit of an expert and learn about it, risk can be reduced.
Gold is safe if you can hide it in safe place but if not many bad people can steal gold. so it is better to choose bitcoin because is more safe.
And bitcoin has a price movement speed unlike gold.

You have a point gold could be hidden  to make it safe but its unlike bitcoin that you could store  it in many place like  online or hardware wallet or even in you pc. Digital currency and  a Precious mineral  cant be really compared since it has many advantages and disadvantages among the two.
5165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: September 11, 2016, 01:14:53 PM
There are many reasons why people get addicted to gambling, some are here just for adrenaline, others think they will get profit if they will continue playing. Second type is worst, these people can easily lose all their money and fall into debt just to gamble more.
that's their wrong, to fall into debt just to gamble is not good. Gambling is just really not important at all in our life. This is just for an entertainment so why to fall into debt just to gamble.

Its the addiction or you may call it the ego and pride. They losed, then they want to get it back but it goes the otger way again. They come losing again until they want to loan being buried with debts.
And that is wrong with them, for me it better to stop than to still think of my ego.
I don't think they are doing the right thing to their life with this kind of scenario.
This is not really good at all and it should not be continue by other people also.
It should be stop or people should have their self-control in their every life.

Men usually act like that because we have bigger pride than women that we cannot afford to accept such defeat in any competition, and since we consider gambling as a way of competition we will do everything to win and losing is very hard to accept.

This is true  men  do have   high  pride most of us when do stuff  like gambling and its true also that its  hard for us to recieve to such defeat thats why  we pursue to turn the situation instead but   sadly  in the end  we still experience the same results  on playing gambling and thats is lossing.
5166  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: hi guys trading like forex on: September 11, 2016, 01:10:31 PM
You can try 1Broker where you can not only trade in forex but also in commodity and stocks. I am also not very comfortable with technical analysis but I like fundamental analysis. I am not sure how 1 Broker works because I haven’t tried it yet but they have good features under one account and I have seen some positive reviews about them. You should do your own research before investing in any option suggested to you.

Forex trading is not as simple as it seems. I think you can do Altcoin trading which is very much cheaper and also easy as compared to Forex trading.
You need a good financial knowledge if you need to became a good Forex trader.

You are right forex trading is not simple as it says you would really need enough knowledge on any aspects  about it not compared on altcoin trading that you could easily  manage or do trading with it as long  you know the basics of trading  unlike forex  its much more complicated  in my own opinion and also it require  also huge amount to start.
5167  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which trading method is better? on: September 11, 2016, 01:07:54 PM
The best trade metod is who will give you more profit.

But this come with some risk, then you need put in balance, safe trade = low profit risk trade = big profit.


Can you explain what you exactly mean? Perhaps that I understand you wrong. But basically, it's like this: Low risks equals low-fair rewards. High risks equal high rewards.

I think hes referring to forex trading i guess since  in that trading style  it  trully matches. In making   risky trades increasing lot size on a open trade is considered risky but same as bitcoin/altcoin trading risking too big amounts on a single trade on altcoin would  surely give you  decent amounts when  it turns in our favor.
5168  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: September 11, 2016, 01:03:16 PM
Trading is very unpredictable yes but i dont think anyone claimed something else cause its widely known thats theres no way to only win.
I was trading alot and also came to the conclusion if you dont have luck you get nowhere higher up i feel like i can compare this to poker.

Ofcourse trading is unpredictable but it is still not as unpredictable as Gambling itself. You still have some better chances of gaining the profit as you can you use your mind to invest in good coin at a right time and not totally blind like in gambling.

Gambling and trading is  somewhat the same  in terms that both have the same risk on lossing up money but same as you said  in trading you could  actually lessen the risk on  trading  it smartly and   a good trading way for that you would  possibly make good results unlike gambling that it doesnt require any skills.
5169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: September 11, 2016, 12:57:39 PM
As of now yes there are some safest method in gambling people are lazy to find it how it works and if you find one dont share it to anybody so yout luck will never leave your side hihi kidding sharing is caring play smart play with strategy play with low bets play with all happines play with your guts

There's no way to play "smart" or with "strategy" in games like dice, slots, roulette, etc., no matter what you do, you will not get over the house edge, meaning you can't expect to see profit in the long run (lots of low bets).
True there is no strategy or play smart in gambling because it will be useless. Gambling is simply a game that requires luck to win or lose depending on our luck. But we can gamble safely to avoid addiction. Judi safe to avoid addiction is by betting small amounts and good self-control. It is necessary to avoid defeat in large amounts.

You have a point somehow but still even if you bet on small amounts then you play  regularly and  lose regularly it would also lead to addiction for sure since the emotion would  build  up especially  when the time comes that your aim to gain back your losses would sure come out and  you cant stop that it really depends on our self control and self awareness. True, there are no safe methods on gambling since  its a matter  of luck game only.
5170  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Any earning method for a newbie member? on: September 11, 2016, 12:55:24 PM
Especially thanks for all leave an advice for me.I tried to follow all of your instructions...
Just read those topic here in bitcoin talk so that you can earn more knowledge on how you are going to do if you have lots of bitcoins this forum help me too, To grow my bitcoin slowly but 100% sure that i can earn profit every month or week depends if i work hard Trading is the best option you choose.

Absolutely right , this forum have lots of information that would really help you in your bitcoin career if you intend on how to make money in these forum and there are lots of ways to choose from. Signature campaigns, offering your skills, altcoin bounties, micro earnings, selling  digital goods and many more just try to  use search button.
5171  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to collect BTC ?? on: September 11, 2016, 12:52:44 PM
Try using more than source : faucets, sig camp, trading, gambling
This way you can collect BTC easily

anyway im not focus at bitcoin, because we can get from other source, like PTc or google adsense, youtube view earning etc.
internet make me know more source other bitcoin, we must explore it Wink

True, there are lots of  ways to make money on internet world and everyone of those you mentioned  i already tried it and  i think  i would  like  to leave those things  just for bitcoin since i see this  opportunity that  it has the potential to make good decent amounts   in upcoming years.
5172  Other / Off-topic / Re: du you spend coins on real life. on: September 11, 2016, 12:50:52 PM
I don't, not because there are no stores that accepts them, but because i save them

Yes if you cannot spend them then its good to save them for future as it will holding some good price in future which can give you better benefits.

You are right if we cant actually spend   bitcoin physically then we are free to choose to save it for future purposes or just simply exchange it to fiat and  buy the things that you want. It really depends on you if you would spend those bitcoin or not but for me i would  save it for future terms and spend a little amount of it if  i need money for emergencies.
5173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you ever won a free bet? on: September 11, 2016, 12:48:39 PM
I never won on a free bet since i directly bet it on  high risk which it end  up on lossing always  it doesnt matter by the way since its not my own money.  When im playing  with my deposited  money i manage my bank roll properly and dont take  too much risk since i know what would happen.
5174  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin help poor countries? on: September 11, 2016, 12:33:07 PM
Can Bitcoin or any other altcoin help poor countries?
how? what can be done?

Two billion people do not have access to a bank account. This is a big drawback for economical growth. Bitcoin or solutions based on Bitcoin could solve this. You could also give the hugh amount of developing money from 1st world countries to spread it directly to the people with a blockchain-based solution instead of giving the money to mostly corrupted governments where the money never reaches the actual receivers.

This thing is  one of the benefits  of bitcoin which we could really do peer to peer transaction without any hassle of having a bank account as you said. I do agree with you that it could easily spread directly to the people. This way would somehow help  on poor countries.
5175  Economy / Speculation / Re: We would be 1000+ if bitfinex didn't happen on: September 11, 2016, 12:29:55 PM
It's really hard to tell, $1000 is obviosly really high enough to reach in that amount of time. You maybe right but we are not sure of that. But better investment is long term investment.

YEah, even without the bitfinex hack happening, I do not think we will reach 1000$ price this soon. AFTER the hype of halving, the price is due to go down then work its way back up. It will go up to 1000$ level but maybe in a few more years, not this year.

Agree, reaching $1k price  on this year would be impossible in my view since  as we saw on the bitcoins price movement its a little bit slow and  there are might  possible some circumtances that may affect bitcoins price in upcoming months or years just like what happen on bitfinex.
5176  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: can i start a btc dice site with 30btc? on: September 11, 2016, 12:14:36 PM
I will like to know if i can start up a casino dice site with 30btc including bankroll.
Am looking at a site with a max profit of like 1btc.
If yes, how?
If no, how much btc do I need.
Only reply if u got ideas about this.
No trolls
Yes Bro You Can Start A Bitcoin Dice Website But For Make You Site Popular You Need Very Effective Ways Of Promotion, But If I Have 30 Btc Then I Don't Open a Gambling Website I Put My Money Into Another Project Like I Made An App.....
Well it his decision to make a gambling site but i guess 30 btc wouldnt be enough because those amount would be  only enough for the dice script. hence, there are lot needed also  to make a website and even on how you promote it would  cost you some money for sure. 30 btc is not  enough. Same as you said  if i had that money i wouldnt build  a gambling site rather i would invest it onto trading.
5177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 11, 2016, 12:00:47 PM
If I were rich, I would make one crazy highroll session and never return again, there are much more better ways to spend excess money, like charity or donations on some projects you'd like to see, or you can support your favorite artists. I think those things would mean much more than gambling for most people.
i don't believe it , i dont believe if you once make a high bet and lost it you would never return to do the same thing again. the moment when you lost would recorded forever in your mind and it's push and motivate you to make your money back but instead your money back you just losing more money , it's actually a mistake that usually made by a new gambler. just never gamble when you rich .

You have some point but  for sure most rich people would lose on big amounts would definitely stop i guess especially if  he gamble   half of  his assets or money if he losses then he might  panic since   half of his ownings just vanished, and  i agree some play play even more to cope up with those losses for sure and some would   never go back again  and afraid  to a total loss.
5178  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: September 11, 2016, 11:54:36 AM
Of course I like bitcoin because bitcoin is money and profit...so there is no reason to hate bitcoin Grin Grin
but not everyone can benefit from bitcoin. for some people maybe bitcoin could make them lose their money.
it can result in a person who can change the assumptions about bitcoin.

True,  people would do hate  bitcoin if they lossed  their money especially on  its moving price when they try to invest and saving  up but  if you are a wise person you would surely wit  that the price would be profitable for you. If someone losses money then its possible  on scam sites for sure, but they dont have the right  to hate bitcoin because its their own fault.

You cannot hate bitcoins only because you loose money with it, as it was your decision that made you loose your money, if you would be patient then results would be different.
I agree with your words, and add one more that if you already have such a negative impression of a bitcoin, then why bother to engage or deal with cryptocurrency. If you have the patience and the results will be.
That's not the case for most people who hate bitcoins. Most of them actually haven't even tried bitcoin simply because either they see people losing money from it, or illegal acts are involved, or they are just really afraid for a change to try it. Ofcourse it's not bitcoin's fault why some people see it that way, but if we could only change that stigmata, then it would be good for bitcoin and for our community as well.
I think only for those who experiences can give you good investment but many scammers out there..they are experience of scam thats why they dont want to collect bitcoins again..

We all have scammed  in the past but we have learned from our mistakes and still prefer to invest in it so I think people should change their mentality and give one more chance to bitcoin and themselves.

if they don't want to change their mind about bitcoin then so be it. It's their loss in hating bitcoin and not used it as another source of Income.
There's a lot future of bitcoin by the way and they would regret it in the future.

Yes bitcoin is still in its younger age and it has still lot more to offer in future and if you quit bitcoin at this stage then you will surely regret in future.
yes it is a fact that bitcoin is  still new and most of the people have no idea about it, after time pass people will know about it and bitcoin will also provide more good feathers for people so it will become more popular among the people and then people will receive benefit from it.

If you want to get best benefits from the bitcoin in future then this is the right time to get into it, as price is not higher at a moment, but if  you delay then it will be more difficult to invest in future.

You have a point , if we truly trust bitcoin as an investment then we must  buy now  because the price is still good to consider which we could somewhat guarantee  that we make  profits in the  future  when bitcoin price would arises on upcoming years. We would really benefit us all for sure.
5179  Economy / Economics / Re: Is Bitcoins safe? on: September 11, 2016, 11:26:12 AM
Is it safe to keep all of my assets in Bitcoins? And how Department for Combating Economic Crimes, can affect my account?  What permissions they need , to freeze all my money ?
in my opinion there is no risk to kept your all asset in btc . if you are afraid that anyone can steal all your money ( in btc ) then you are wrong . you should never share your password and email password you will never get any loss of your money .

The risk is all their, because your money could be stolen and there is also a possibility that the value of bitcoin will be worthless, but if you are a real supporter and investor you would take that risk and stay firm in your decision to invest in bitcoin.

In bitcoin, there is no question about the security coded in the system but the problem there is in the user on how he will setup his own security so that his bitcoin wont be hacked or stolen by some malware.  And I think bitcoin will take sometime to become worthless but i doubt it will happen because the base users of bitcoin is well established and as far as I know there is already a multi billion dollar involved in bitcoin economy.

safety in saving yes it depends on the user, so far I am very safe. but sometimes anything can happen, examples such as hackers on major sites like bitfinex. so putting money in the exchanger can be unsafe, but in the wallet is very safe, as long as you either keep it.
I think not on exchanges only. may be done in an online wallet which is owned by a third party. where third parties have access to bitcoin pf users. so I think you have to be careful with any third party that you are using. I thought the purse would be safe. but fluctuations may be quite risky

If we do own  huge amounts of bitcoin and if we think  for its safety its better to buy a hardware wallet and  keep it on a storage that no one knows together with its   private keys and other information to access that hardware wallet. Just be sure that you wont  forget where you hide it. lol
5180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The House always wins. on: September 11, 2016, 11:23:33 AM
The house will always win overall. If you check a popular casinos bank roll every 12 months it's likely they'll never be at a loss at the end of a calander year.

Lucky people can win though but yes, overall the house will never lose in the long run.
House is always a winner in the end of the day, there are a lot of gamblers out there that enters their house and the house is really lucky because they always earn money in the end, imagine if the house has always 1000 gamblers then they bet big amount but lose then only one person win then in the end house always wins.
because logically say that the house owner did not create charity but gambling house so for sure they will win in any how
as many gamblers always hoping that they can win good profits from the house not knowing that in the long run they are
losing because of the house edge and luck will not favor them anymore,.

What you said it correct. No gambling house want to distribute their money to players instead they invested money on site and marketing them to make money from it and in most of the gambling game only luck can bring money to players so house always got a better chance of winning at the end in gambling.

Gambling games are created to ensure that the house will win in the long run. Nobody will create games where the house has no advantage. The house has lots of money while individual players has an limited sum of money. There is an extremely high probability that an individual player will bust his capital before the house loses all their money.
Well this is  reality on gambling sites since its a business and  no owner would established or create  a business without any advantage to its players. If you  intend to play gambling then  you must be ready  on that advantage of house which would really  loss all your money on the long run.
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