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521  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: 10 bfl singles for sale - also x6500s and 1.15xs if the offer is right on: November 10, 2012, 05:56:03 AM
I'll give you 350 per single.

522  Economy / Lending / Re: [WANTED] $2650 Loan @ 18% on: November 10, 2012, 05:38:40 AM
Hey dude if you're still looking in JAN - look me up =P
523  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Are ASIC's the endgame? on: November 10, 2012, 04:38:10 AM
ASICs might be the 'endgame' in terms of a type of technology, but the realization of that technology has stepping stones and can be improved upon. Process/die size is the big one that can change and that will enable more work to be done per clock or Watt leading to more efficient solutions.

Do you know what type of improvements are we looking at? Double Gh/W from the best (future) existing ratio?

Really it's just of electrical surface area... aka as it gets smaller you can put more transistors on the chip in the same space. This comes out as reduced heat and less wattage used.

Now I'm not sure if parallel or modular design is being used in bitcoin ASICs... I'd guess module tho and that's probably taking it in the wrong direction technologically.

Instead of developing smaller silicon that can run at higher clock rates... we should be designing large gate arrays that could hash an entire nonce in a few clock cycles. Sure they'd be 10x the size and much 'slower' but they'd be fast as hell at actually producing work.

524  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Set-up to run up to 25 ASIC units on: November 10, 2012, 04:28:45 AM
Use 32 bit windows 7 if you want, it will work fine with 1GB RAM. In fact for 2 or 3GB you should also prefer 32 bit windows 7 over x64. This is because the memory structures are larger and you will waste about 40% of your RAM with half empty quadwords. 64 bit should only be used if you are planning on putting 4GB or more of RAM in a desktop for best results.

While the 'greater effective memory use' due to empty words (when running 32 bit software) is true...

The primary reason to be in x64 is for hardware DEP.
525  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I just preordered ASIC chip, now what? on: November 09, 2012, 05:37:33 AM
And You and BFL sockpuppet profiles here call me a layer because I don't eat Your medicine!

Let me be the first to call you "a layer"... what exactly is it that you're laying? Also, are you a nester as well? If so how long does whatever you lay take to hatch?

 Grin
526  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could declaring Bitcoin a religion protect it from Finacial Regulation? on: November 09, 2012, 05:18:09 AM
This is all correct to a point. I don't think I'll be able to get human sacrifice legalised, even if religious.

However, afaik peyotl is legal for members of whichever church it is that believes taking the drug is a scarament.

The law doesn't really make a distinction between rituals which involve harming others... But the courts do. I have think under this vein even if laws were passed affecting bitcoin the courts would still dismiss those cases as being protected if it was a sacrament... simply because it doesn't harm anyone.



527  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Controversy Research paper on: November 09, 2012, 05:12:05 AM
Yea in my paper that is one of my points, if the US or anyone country where to ban Bitcoin it would be impossible to actually put a stop people from using. I suppose it would be possible to catch people who mine bitcoins or otherwise sell/buy them, because money is so traceable and people wouldn't want to people random people. but things like Greendot MoneyPak would work well for buying and selling them anonymously, BUT i'm sure it would be possible to have a GMP number be traced to someone cashing it. but having to pay 5 bucks to get a moneypak sort of makes buying bitcoins not very worth it unless you sold them 5 bucks cheaper than they are worth.

i realize Bitcoin can't get shut down, but it would suck if they became illegal and people started getting charged for using bitcoins.

thanks greyhawk, that's what i was think. so it can still be considered money laundering then.

does anyone hope that banks start accepting bitcoins so it establishes legitimacy, people think since its "anonymous" that its like laundering money. yet the network knows how bitcoins are out there, which accounts transfer to which accounts. it doesn't seem to be that anonymous to me and it seems like if it were to establish legitimacy then there will not be an "untraceable" element to it.

It's as anon as you make it. Everyone can see the blockchain, but they couldn't really link a specific user with an address without either owning the vast majority of the nodes on the network (and if that happens they might as well 51% and just deny all transactions) or unless that user is silly and publishes an address with other information linking them to that address.

Another cool thing you might consider using in your paper... existing drug enforcement tactics sometimes result in raids on bitcoin miners... apparently the power consumption + heat generated looks a lot like growing pot. So if they did for example, make mining illegal... a good mechanism to locate miners is already in place on the local level using offline tech.

528  Other / Off-topic / Re: [poll] BFL is scam? on: November 08, 2012, 08:05:00 AM
ok, my mistake. If they are going to do 900 boards per 24 hours, they should execute all orders in a week or two or three. The point is, it's not worth the risk to buy preorder to gain a few days time. I'm not saying that BFL is a scam, they can make mistakes and go bankrupt as well.  A simple calculation of risk - possible profits and losses.

I'm fairly sure that most early investors understood that we were funding the development of ACIS products, even if it wasn't stated.

It absolutely was in our interests to support BFL and pre-order for the simple fact that if we get in a first batch... we're suddenly collecting 2 weeks for coins in hours/days before the difficulty can adjust. It's a gamble in the sense that if BFL doesn't release first (which could actually happen now) then we've lost that advantage. But the risk of them not producing a product after already having an existing shop producing FPGA... and being a US based business, is next to non-existent.

Even if they go tits-up and never produce an ASIC product, we'd still be able to recover that investment through legal channels.

529  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Set-up to run up to 25 ASIC units on: November 08, 2012, 07:55:38 AM
2. As long as you use powered USB hubs, you can hook up to 144 devices on each computer USB port. Two USB hubs are not necessary, one would do just fine. The only reason I can think of to use two hubs would be to make it more stable (1 USB hub dies, all asics go down.... but if you have 2, only half of them will.) Just make sure to shop around and read reviews. Some hubs are super cheap.
127 devices on each USB port, including the hubs.
Most 7-port hubs are 2 4-port hubs so they count for 2.
The maximum depth for chaining, connecting a hub to another hub, is 5 iirc.
So connecting a 7-port hub to a 7-port hub to a 7-port hub is possible, but you might find out what port you need to connect to.

Also some of the bigger hubs support multiple tiers of chained smaller hubs...

I use these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817474012

Your top chain is usb3. then it's 3x8 ports.

Anyway, you can hook 4 of these and max out a chain. Also love the buttons for controlling power on each port.


 




530  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Beware laser printers for paper wallets on: November 08, 2012, 07:48:07 AM
Yah - that's not a real concern when you're printing on a consumer product (aka end user).
531  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I just preordered ASIC chip, now what? on: November 08, 2012, 07:45:57 AM
Understood. I would kind of like to play around with it to learn as well as to better understand coding concepts

I used to lurk around http://www.linux-noob.com/forums/ back in the day.

532  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Anyone interested in buying gold? on: November 08, 2012, 07:28:52 AM
Well, this is not my main business idea, just some market research regarding gold sales.

In order to make a good profit moving metal around you've got to be able to purchase enough from your minter that you get a discount. That discount is what lets you be competitive.

There is profit to be made simply by accepting bitcoin for gold. The problem is, you'll be very lucky to even make 1% on that trade and I don't think the volume is there... then again, if you're willing to take a lower margin you might be able to start a price war with coinabul and end up putting both of you out of business.

  Wink
533  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New Bitinstant OFAC Rule on: November 08, 2012, 07:18:19 AM
What's your policy on logging those checks? Are they logged? If so, how long before the logs are purged?
534  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I just preordered ASIC chip, now what? on: November 08, 2012, 07:15:15 AM
I just wanted to thank all the members that are weighing in on the situation. At this point it seems no one can prove anything on either side. It looks like the next few months will be extremely interesting.
Thanks to everyone and all of the advice, it is nice to be able to come here as a newb as still get constructive feedback. The only conclusion that I can come to is that their is a lot of valuable information on the forums if you are willing to look for it, and their are members that are very passionate about the scene. I plan on doing a lot of research, and eventually doing some mining.
This is a little off topic,  but does anyone have any suggestions on where a newb should go to learn about using linux. I think while I wait for the ASICs to drop I will teach myself how to use it, it seems like it can't hurt to be knowledgeable on using it for mining.

Honestly, I wouldn't bother with linux unless you code or just want to play around with it for fun.

You want reliability and depth of support for something you're doing professionally.

A windows machine that doesn't do anything except mine is just as secure as a linux machine that only mines is just as secure as a mac that only mines. Just don't do anything silly on the machine (like warez, facebook, general browsing, porn) and you'll be fine.

And when/if something does go wrong with your machine... at least you'll be able to figure it out quickly because it's a windows machine and there's so many more users, and better support structure.
535  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Set-up to run up to 25 ASIC units on: November 08, 2012, 06:16:42 AM
For what??

I've been using dual core AMD's (45 watt) cpu's & 1 gig RAM & an old hard drive (IDE) 20 gig & Win7 64bit Ultimate,for my mining rigs for over a year now & notice no difference in mining performance.

Now,if you plan on using that same PC for everyday web browsing or gaming,yes you'll need more..................  Roll Eyes

For windows, x64 windows 7 uses more than a gig all by itself.

Ideally, for your mining machine you'll want at the very least 2 gigs, and that's if you plan on doing nothing else with it. Also, I would highly recommend going SSD for the simple fact that when/if your system has an issue, you can reboot it so much faster than a system with a hdd.

536  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I just preordered ASIC chip, now what? on: November 08, 2012, 06:05:47 AM
It is ridiculous! Will talk again half year later when the ASIC is still not made.

The sad thing is, I'm pretty sure you actually believe this.

would you like to buy my 35gh/s gpu farm?

I'd be more than happy to let it go right now for say... 25 grand.
537  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could declaring Bitcoin a religion protect it from Finacial Regulation? on: November 08, 2012, 04:57:56 AM
Tax exempt status is given to organisations, not their members.  Even if you could somehow pull of registering a Bitcoin organisation as a religious organisation, only that specific organisation and it's subsidiaries would enjoy tax exempt status.

Sure, but making using the bitcoin network a sacrament (like any ritual in other religions) would make it impossible for bitcoin to be made illegal in the US.
538  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Now that Obama's in for 4 more... on: November 08, 2012, 03:48:16 AM
That's the whole problem with the president thing... the market often takes longer than 4 (or even Cool years to fully react to a changed policy, so the current president often gets blame (and credit) for what the last guy did.

That and it's pretty much standard policy write things like regulation/deregulation and +tax/-tax to go into effect after the president is out of office...
539  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bootable Ubuntu USB drive with OS X on: November 08, 2012, 03:43:13 AM
@doctortime:  Thanks a lot for the suggestion but as someone who's not computer savvy, I've sworn-off all the Ubuntu bootable USB stick, multiple installations of software I don't understand, command line, auxilliary encryption malarkey, etc.  If someone wants to hack my personal network, install a keylogger on my machine or in any way go to the trouble of stealing a bitcoin or two from me then frankly they can have it.  If all this is necessary to be able to securely and easily retain and transact in bitcoin then it sure as hell isn't for me at this time.  Thanks again.

@Kazimir:  These are the exact instructions I followed numerous times and once again, it does not work through no fault of my own.  Thank-you though for the suggestion.

It does work... that is... on some macs. The issue with apple is they really don't have any idea about how to design a computer.

A few things to consider: if you've got those wireless keyboards that run on bluetooth - yah you aren't going to be able to actually get the mac to know you're holding that boot menu key down until it's too late. if you're plugging your flash drive into a USB port that isn't directly on the mac (like on a keyboard or hub) then yah, that isn't going to work either because mac isn't able to discover deeper than one device before it's booted.

If you're on a macbook - you're going to need the have the mac plugged into an external power source before any bootkey will work, if it's not on power the mac waits to turn the keyboard on until you're at the desktop.

Those are about the only things I can think of that might affect your ability to boot to a usb stick.

GoodLuck
540  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: The Bitcoin List needs YOU ... and is willing to pay! on: November 08, 2012, 03:35:29 AM
Nice idea - leave the site open see if it grows over time.

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