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521  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Dimon will launch blockchain project at JPM after calling Bitcoin stupid on: October 16, 2017, 11:49:21 PM
I assumed that he tried to bring the price of bitcoins down so he can invest and buy them as cheap as he can get them in a short period of time.
of course i sure he bought btc a lot when it was cheap last month. he said btc fraud but then will using it, i can't imagine about he is actually JPM's CEO
522  Economy / Services / Re: Electroneum Signature Campaign.{CFNP} on: October 15, 2017, 10:41:00 PM
I have a question - the posts in the local sections will be considered or you consider posts only in English section ? Thank you.
local post also counted, but better to keep it in small number
523  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what will stop this token rush? on: October 15, 2017, 03:39:13 PM
"..getting out of control..", i love it Wink  however i think ETH is good platform because ppl can learn to make their own token/coin and learn how it work. We are in decentralized world and we can't let only big company allowed for creating ICO. But yeah i also tired crypto world being flooded with all of that scam ICO token. so don't know what to say because it is like plague but also has good side. waiting other opinion

Well, you have a point that it will throw away the system as a decentralized but don't you think that it's too much already? A mere kid can make his/her token and can roll an ICO just by the help of a designer/programmer. (he/she can also hire people for help) without any products and services to consider? Then those crypto newbs will be baited on the ICO without knowing that the project is delusional. That's another BS token for the community, addition to the long list of this kind of tokens.

I guess nobody wants that? BUT it's already happening. Look at this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2247751 for reference.
that's why i say waiting other opinion. i know of course i know it's been too much, but that is the result from this system. fact
Only way is to educate ppl how to find good ICO, or if it still hard, any developers must reveal their real identity in their ICO
524  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Trading ALT = Judi ? on: October 15, 2017, 03:10:26 PM
Saya telah menjelaskan pada bagian pertama, Emangnya judi ga ada jual beli? disana sudah ada kok kesepakatan.  Roll Eyes

Judi itu hanya bertaruh tidak pure jual beli,mana ada bah judi jual beli,makanya mengandalkan putaran dadu saja kalau judi.kalau jual beli ada barang ada grafik ada pasar dll
lucu liat yg ini, serasa si OP ngotot banget
525  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Trading ALT = Judi ? on: October 15, 2017, 02:08:33 PM
karna ada yang berpedoman trading itu ngak judi di karenakan trading itu butuh di analisis atau butuh kepinteran,apa beda nya dengan judi .karena orang judi juga ngak asal asalan main taruhan,tentu kalo orang judi juga butuh pemikiran yang bener bener bisa mengutungkan.kalo berpedoman sama analisis ngak ada bedanya gan judi juga butuh anilisis butuh ilmu
apa bedanya? Jelas ada bedanya, dari niatnya saja sudah beda, satu buat trading satu buat judi. Kalau hanya bahas tentang analisis, orang bangun gedung tinggi gede juga butuh analisis. Terus itu gak ada bedanya sama judi?
526  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what will stop this token rush? on: October 15, 2017, 12:19:14 AM
"..getting out of control..", i love it Wink  however i think ETH is good platform because ppl can learn to make their own token/coin and learn how it work. We are in decentralized world and we can't let only big company allowed for creating ICO. But yeah i also tired crypto world being flooded with all of that scam ICO token. so don't know what to say because it is like plague but also has good side. waiting other opinion
527  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] ⚡ Electroneum ⚡ Token Sale Sept 14th Mobile Mining Crypto Coin on: October 14, 2017, 09:27:21 PM
Bought some. never participate in ICO of my signature before but this coin succesfully take my attention.
Hey, is that Redknapp? really?
https://www.twitter.com/Redknapp/status/918413154585071616
528  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: October 13, 2017, 03:36:34 AM
harga bitcoin saat ini sudah mencapai $5600 =76juta akan kah terus naik sampai $6000 sebelum HF
mending manfaatkan moment untuk ambil kesempatan mendapatkan profit.
gede gan kemungkinan ke $6000, HF masih 2 minggu lagi. Misal nanti ada turun juga paling cepet naek lagi, orang gak mau kehilangan duit gratis
529  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Technical analysis on btc or better just rely on fundamentals and news? on: October 11, 2017, 11:54:38 PM
Rarely use technical. Because i'm not doing day trading (day trading use technical, right?), i prefer buy then keep for some time. And i sure many people like me so maybe that's why people are much more influenced by fundamental (news, rumor)
and that news seem to have a higher impact on btc than candlestick formations or so..
They are both are works technical analysis and fundamentals and news this  is base in what i experience before bitcoin is not really well known it will be hard to see the movement of the price last 2014 to 2015 only technical analysis that we can use.. but after this 2015 the news was starting rising about bitcoin that can gives you idea that bitcoin could be increase more in the future until now that news can gives you signal to know if the price of bitcoin could be price down or increase..
So both of them are actually needed the same what other people think.. but most of traders doing is technical analysis if you wanted really to know if how long the price will increase or decrease..

yeah i know technical is good to know how much you must use your money for maximize the profit
however some people prefer safe way doing long term and don't care about daily chart
530  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: "Status Post yang sama di forum bitcointalk" on: October 11, 2017, 10:30:26 PM
Info, kemaren2 banyak user yang post countnya berkurang. Denger-denger sih lagi ada pembersihan sama seluruh mod disini, post spam sampah sejenisnya pada dihapus.
Yang penting kita tahu momod masih kerja
531  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Serious topic: how can we be sure Bitcoin will not be banned by most countries? on: October 11, 2017, 10:09:31 PM
I made a comment regarding this question, I will do it again for you. China didn't ban bitcoin, they banned icos and they did that because companies started to seek for investors in that way, and because many of startups are scams, and then they started to talk about legitimate exchangers. Russia will not ban bitcoin, they will do same as China did, they will ban all exchangers that they can't control, but legit exchangers will continue to work.
What ever they do will be a little problem for bitcoin, but that is all a little problem, nothing that bitcoin users can't handle.

poor country who ban bitcoin. Bitcoin has great and useful tech behind it. I hear England or US save $20b because using blockchain in something system. Russia and China not fool enough to trash this great thing
532  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Technical analysis on btc or better just rely on fundamentals and news? on: October 11, 2017, 09:47:28 PM
Rarely use technical. Because i'm not doing day trading (day trading use technical, right?), i prefer buy then keep for some time. And i sure many people like me so maybe that's why people are much more influenced by fundamental (news, rumor)
and that news seem to have a higher impact on btc than candlestick formations or so..
533  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Tetangga Sebelah Sudah Mulai Ambil Tindakan on: October 11, 2017, 06:03:36 AM
Bitcoin ga butuh negara dan regulasi, bitcoin di buat satoshi untuk biar orang gampang kirim value dari satu orang ke orang lain tanpa di batasi negara, ras dan agama. Kalau emang pemerintah kita mau ijut andil ya silahkan kalau ga yasudah biarkan saja.
iya sih gan tapi sekarang lagi ngetren regulasi bitcoin, dari china itu kemaren ngerembet ke korsel, india, nepal sampe rusia, sampe malaysia disini. Kali aja BI pengen ikutan Grin

benar saya setuju, dan berita itupun belum tentu valid, karena sekarang banyak rumor yang berkembang tidak jelas. kita lihat saja perkembangan bitcoin di indonesia.
itu berita valid gan, di news bitcoin juga ada. Searching dulu lah sebelum bilang valid/gak valid
534  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Tetangga Sebelah Sudah Mulai Ambil Tindakan on: October 11, 2017, 03:42:52 AM
kalo pemerintah nya udah mulai kepanasan biasanya baru deh ambil tindakan.
hehe biasanya emang gitu sih gan disini mah, kalau kadung kepepet atau butuh baru deh dipikirin Grin . Tapi emang keknya belum siap juga sih buat nerapin (blockchain) disini, salah2 ntar malah dibikin isu politik Grin
535  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Tetangga Sebelah Sudah Mulai Ambil Tindakan on: October 11, 2017, 03:36:32 AM

tetangga sebelah jika dilihat memang lebih maju dari pada kita, asal ada kesempatan yang memiliki tujuan dapat meningkatkan penghasilan negara dan masyarakat pasti cepat di legalkan, beda mah kalau indonesia kalau masyarakat punya cara sendiri buat mendapatkan penghasilan pasti lama di legalkan apalagi ini gak melalui bank negara jadi susah di korupsi
ane juga kaget gan ini tren regulasi bitcoin sudah nyampe Malaysia. Disini ada bitcoin.co.id itu gede loh dan ane kira sih pengguna btc lebih banyak disini, eh malah ketinggalan Grin . jarang ane denger itu BI ngomong soal bitcoin
536  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Tetangga Sebelah Sudah Mulai Ambil Tindakan on: October 11, 2017, 01:56:03 AM
Ini gan, kabar bulan kemaren sih,
https://cointelegraph.com/news/malaysia-legalizing-bitcoin-bank-negara-issuing-guidelines-for-crypto

intinya sebelum akhir tahun, Malaysia bakal ambil tindakan tentang Bitcoin dan Cryptocurrency. Mungkin seperti diregulasi begitu gan, kyk yang dilakuin Jepang, China atau negara2 laen. Bank Indonesia gimana yah Grin
537  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: 🚀Makin banyak orang "Bodoh" yang ikut-ikutan trading Crypto🚀 on: October 10, 2017, 03:02:34 PM
Heheh, mayan nih ada trit "waras".
Ya kalau dibilang bodoh ya emang bodoh juga sih Grin harusnya sebelum invest harus tau juga resikonya.
Tapi bukan full salah mereka sih, manusiawi lah kalau pengen untung. Kalau BCH, itu sih emang momennya adj, koinnya di HYPE digembar-gemborkan sedemikian rupa sehingga akhirnya banyak yang kepynchut.
Masukin pejwan dong gan Grin
538  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Russian central bank to ban websites offering cryptocurrencies on: October 10, 2017, 02:35:02 PM
The can ban websites, but Russians are clever people so it will not be problem for them to use VPN and access the websites anyways Wink In any case, it really shows that the banks are fearing Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies they don't control.
and russian people love crypto. I read about Putin met Ethereum CEO Vitalik Buterin, and other good news about how cryptocurrency is very welcomed in russia. Seems only central bank against it there
539  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is the point of creating a cryptocurrency? on: October 10, 2017, 04:10:25 AM
To be widely used, cryptocurrency must be like real currency/fiat. Cheap transaction fee, fast and less volatile, that is important.
Example, dogecoin has no purpose. But here, crypto community in my country use it for buying internet data, or other online transaction (even like buying notebook). It is widely accepted here because it is fast, and cheap. Second to bitcoin in usage
Those new cryptocurrencies have good purpose or good tech but forget to create suitable system for real usage. The tech is only good for crypto world
540  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: It's Time to Buy Alt Coin on: October 10, 2017, 03:11:27 AM
people dump alt for btc. you know this hardfork give free bitcoin gold, so they will try to get free Gold by buying Bitcoin or exchange their alt

I agree most people now are buying bitcoin since there will be a fork and i think the price action will continue until the hardfork happen .
I am waiting for the perfect opportunity to buy more coins. Im pretty sure altcoin price will recover since people will buy again their favorite alcoins after they get their bitcoin gold.
of course it will recover. my speculation: ppl dump alt for btc > ppl get free gold > ppl dump gold for btc and alt.
Or ppl hold gold or even continue buy it, then btc down. Bitcoin gold has more supporter than bitcoin cash, they won't let the gold die
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