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5201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 10, 2020, 06:12:54 PM
I was expecting more runs from WI but anyway still this is a good lead and English batsmen needs to be careful. It's good thing that English team did not lose any wicket before the stump. Lead down to two figures and hopefully they will give a careful start tomorrow morning. I am hopeful for England in this innings.
5202  Economy / Lending / Re: 0.002 loan on: July 10, 2020, 06:07:31 PM
You can try ask a loan from one of them, but since you are still newbie here even more you not have something to be used for collateral I doubt that people above will give you a loan.
I can assure you that no one is going to give him this $18 or something unless there are any collateral.

OP, if you have any form of valid collateral (altcoin preferable)  then feel free.
5203  Economy / Reputation / Re: To all DT1 members | Interesting negative feedback from JollyGood! on: July 10, 2020, 04:59:59 PM
I am waiting for the support of all other DT members if there is a negative answer. I am someone who has done a lot of work in our local forum and has helped many people by producing their own content. I think I do not deserve this negative notification sent for such manipulative and invalid reasons.

It's the same feedback I see that was left for the OP.
I will say this is another invalid feedback and Jolly needs to change it. It's not good to hear about the same case again and again against a user.

He's not removed my negative feedback yet, i need a help from another DT members. It's invalid and he said that he will not remove this feedback. The person uses his trust in the trust system for bad purposes and displays racist behavior.
I have Jolly as distrust in my trust list from long ago.
Sadly this topic now moving to anther direction where I see Jolly, Vod and Techshare are busy teasing each others.

On a side note, it seems Jolly only listen to some specific users who he respects and if they PM or suggest him to remove or add then only he will react. :-D
Yes Loyce, you are well aware I respect and trust you and a couple of users in the forum. One of them sent me a PM asking me to reconsider the original feedback which I said I would.

But again tagging someone for___
1. connected a group of trolls
2. merit abuse and fake trust circle
3.  promote low-life users
___ seems not a proper use of trust rating.

I disagree with the feedback from Lauda too. I think somewhere theymos mentioned that there are no need of tagging for merit about or something.

A red tag is always valid for a proven scam but not for speculation. If was for speculation then we all would tag the questionable account that seems to be handled by game-protect recently.
5204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 10, 2020, 04:18:49 PM
You again singing Stokes anthem? this is for you then . hahhaha

Yeah, have fun until he come up with another monster innings :-D

Quote
Noticed one thing, they are using sweat on ball. I thought it was banned too???
Not sure but it's understandable why they are not doing those things anymore.

Am very happy for West Indies at the moment. A 100+ lead seems easy at this point unless Chase gets out which I hope doesn't happen. England are starting to sweat(Lol) now.
Indies are strong now. This young man just scored his half and looking very comfortable.
5205  Economy / Reputation / Re: Alt of game-protect? on: July 10, 2020, 04:11:59 PM
I mean come on... how many other users do you see trolling gambling complaints and offering "to make a claim"?

None except the account game-protect.
5206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 10, 2020, 01:50:04 PM
Batting collapse coming??   Grin Grin Grin
If Stokes was in the right position then we would see another wicket LOL
Not sure bud but let's see how they handle next one hour. Few more wickets will bring England back for sure.
5207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 10, 2020, 12:58:31 PM
Just tuned my Tele and I have to admit that after long time I am going to watch live cricket. I have watched the highlight yesterday. Poor England. I think they always do this. Now they will have to pay the price of the batting disaster. Brooks is looking good and already 167 by loosing only 3 wickets is not good for England.
5208  Other / Meta / Re: Paraphrasing, is it ok? on: July 10, 2020, 12:53:47 PM
That cheating and should be considered as guilty as plagiarism. In fact, it is plagiarism the difference is that they have used article spinner so that words can be replaced by synonyms. Those who do black hat SEO they usually do it a lot.

I think we have talked about this before and the account should be banned.
5209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 09, 2020, 01:42:55 PM
I have not tuned my Tele yet but watching the score. Stokes and Buttler needs to put more runs. It was a pain to see 5 gone for only 87 runs. Rain is going to play a vital role in this match but some if 9 sessions can be managed then maybe we will see a result.

Edit: Really!!! Stokes gone!!! :-P
5210  Economy / Reputation / Re: Alt of game-protect? on: July 09, 2020, 01:06:40 PM
These examples sound to me like game-protect trying very hard to sound not like game-protect. But in addition to the obsession with licenses and gambling litigation there are some minor idiosyncrasies in his grammar (e.g. missing or incorrectly applied articles) that make me think Royse777 is on to something here.
Don't get me wrong but every one of us has emotion, and I am one of them. While I always try to stay neutral but there are one or max two character/s who annoy me and I really do not want them to scam around innocent people. game-protect is surely one of them. His main account was banned for a good reason and if this one is handled by him (which seems very possible) then this should be banned too so that we do not see the next guy to be his victim again. So this is what I am on to :-D

I got response from cryptios folks and it seems they are here only for recovering accounts not for anything else.

Edit:
Join a club with no trust system, and no Techy.  Smiley
Trust system is not perfect but it works fine. And I do not see anything wrong with Techy. He is been around the forum from long years and gave a lot to the community like we all are doing from our own power/skill/etc. Maybe we do not need users like game-protect :-P

5211  Economy / Services / Re: [CFNP] BestChange Signature Campaign on: July 08, 2020, 03:37:47 PM
Well, it's been 25 weeks since you started to work here. You are so great! We even suspected you when you started working here, we're glad you've completed everything so far  Cheesy Nobody thought you would run it so long, nor did anyone think you could run it in the smoothest way  Cheesy You have a really professional team  Cheesy Although I am not a member of you, I am impressed by what you have done. Keep up the good form!
It's not okay to judge anything very quick instead of giving them a chance to prove. I wonder where is the gang of TMAN?

Edit: I hope he is fine and will comeback soon to remove the tag he left for Best_Change.
5212  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcasino.io suspicious 171 btc win and settlement on: July 08, 2020, 03:31:21 PM
I think you already missed some conversations:
Topic by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260827.0
By yahoo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260832.0
Response from bitcasino: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260832.msg54754514#msg54754514
5213  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitcasino.io 171btc winner discussion on: July 08, 2020, 02:45:08 PM
alright, i maintain, that... i was lucky and the win was real
i should have been paid
but then, should I? I cheated in the past.
i dont know.
whatever
I usually do not lose my mind but now I think I lost myself.

Just STFU!
5214  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitcasino.io 171btc winner discussion on: July 08, 2020, 02:39:15 PM
it was a legitimate hit. a totally legitimate, non tampered, not cheated, win.
but granted i cheated in the past, but thats not relevant.
Since you are here, would you answer:

Why would you said that it was settled for 48 BTC?
well, im still annoyed they didnt pay, it was a real win.
but since i have no right to complain because i cheated in the past...well
i deserve 48 btc, so let me have my fantasy okay?
See your lines are not adding up now.
Why would you think you deserve 48 BTC, why not 171+ BTC?

Would you admit that you have played a dirty game with the emotion of this forum members?

Did you notice that I and yahoo was ready to fight for you? We somehow saw injustice to you and gave our best with the community but now I feel I was cheated and I think others feel the same.
5215  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitcasino.io 171btc winner discussion on: July 08, 2020, 02:34:44 PM
it was a legitimate hit. a totally legitimate, non tampered, not cheated, win.
but granted i cheated in the past, but thats not relevant.
Since you are here, would you answer:

Why would you said that it was settled for 48 BTC?
5216  Economy / Reputation / Re: To all DT1 members | Interesting negative feedback from JollyGood! on: July 08, 2020, 02:15:46 PM
I am waiting for the support of all other DT members if there is a negative answer. I am someone who has done a lot of work in our local forum and has helped many people by producing their own content. I think I do not deserve this negative notification sent for such manipulative and invalid reasons.

It's the same feedback I see that was left for the OP.
I will say this is another invalid feedback and Jolly needs to change it. It's not good to hear about the same case again and again against a user.
5217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Open discussion: Won 171 BTC and settled for 48 BTC on: July 08, 2020, 01:35:01 PM
Hi guys,

Unfortunately the main thread got closed before we got our long reply together, but we've left a reply on the Reputation area thread.

Please have a look as there was never a settlement.

Cheers,
Karl
Bitcasino.io

I am going to lock this topic since we already have the answer which I quote:

Hi everyone,

We were made aware of a thread recently created, the thread is now locked and contains incorrect information which we’d like to set straight.


Before getting into the case, I want to acknowledge a point that was made in the now locked thread around the gravity of the situation
and the potential positive or negative impact on our reputation.

With that in mind, we think it’s crucial to share some of our reasoning and proof behind why we’re certain that LAngel’s winnings
are not legitimate and are a result of fraudulently manipulating GameArt’s Dawn of Olympus.

This is not the first encounter we’ve had with this person and this was made crystal clear when we uncovered a 100% match to a previous user
who had been investigated and subsequently blocked for tampering with games.
We use a wide array of industry-leading detection tools, 100% across them is unambiguously a match.

Previously, this user managed to extract a large amount of BTC from ourselves and also hit a few other crypto casinos in a very similar manner.
For this reason this person is widely known to ourselves, other crypto casinos and at least GameArt, if not other game providers.

Furthermore, KYC has been consistently inconsistent and while for privacy reasons we can’t post the submitted KYC here,
we can say without any doubt that the KYC documents submitted are not valid.

We know however that our community here requires something more tangible than simply our word.
Below, you will see the publicly available proof from the Blockchain supporting our findings that there is indeed a pattern of a single individual
who we know to be manipulating and exploiting games across casino operators, and that LAngel is not as legitimately lucky as would have you believe.

Transaction 1 where 0.483 BTC is moved to 14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5
68c63caf998c3e84f342caa988d1e439f8cd78174aa389185b3e4a06f0ecf27b

Transaction 2 where 0.1 BTC is deposited from 14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5 to Account 1 deposit address in Bitcasino 3G4r8XMKgvKFq3M29kNuV9RE6kvq7eY5Qh
7dbd1fe62c6afb93ecaa8ce0eed7cb0e90210de93151eb29f894a81c32cacc25

Transaction 3 where 0.196 BTC is sent from 14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5 to a new address 1BCeQTQWvq5gzk8yEBzwGrWuLYjHmvf3P2
571a8a4c2f6d59044e669f5f5956e4544970fce7aea21feb3d32caa577b35497

Transaction 4 where inputs from 1BCeQTQWvq5gzk8yEBzwGrWuLYjHmvf3P2 and 13mEeWBYtd4huuuWGTFbEvbH192uMGh3tF send 4.5 BTC to a Casino Operator 1 deposit address 1BnqgnQFVpevz7idhBHpdD2Axy7L9ZC42U and 0.134 BTC to a new address 1DFQ7ofFWf1yffqwQL1Jdv445ZeYxSuGiD 90eea9f590e77ce6e9e70de79911ef38275e0d22642b54c02d34343c3b59bbdb

Transaction 5 where inputs from 18qF5tBd175jfz3AwjtsbebTfn8nkfRGDm and 1DFQ7ofFWf1yffqwQL1Jdv445ZeYxSuGiD are sending 0.5 BTC to Bitcasino onto Account 2 deposit address 3Bn9pecZA6r3Z1bCYdh4GV5tM3DYXxMhzF and 0.055 BTC to a new address 1J14KoZVUXrG3P4Rcs6URZQ1dJHY77tVWQ 5a9b14457a493e6c237d1e38dd1b80082af45e217a77782fdd605fd5e09dd4ee

Transaction 6 where inputs 1J14KoZVUXrG3P4Rcs6URZQ1dJHY77tVWQ and 1JkAF2owb3QgXG1UN53yREFvogTWeLs1TZ fund a deposit of 0.5 BTC to a players deposit address 38492UnXhifAE4Yag26Lbp6beoxB1cLTDT within Casino Operator 2 52777ed072b6fdd1c3cbb8b14ce7fb37556d302a0e9eaa64e801731c8b92fcb3

The above combination transactions prove that the addresses involved are in possession of a single entity responsible of the deposits to
Bitcasino Account 1, Account 2 and also to Casino Operator 1 and Casino Operator 2.

Collection of the entity’s mentioned addresses:

14t9Ff3yUgwcQm5HsAsL5Rq7meBBCDT8g5
1BCeQTQWvq5gzk8yEBzwGrWuLYjHmvf3P2
1DFQ7ofFWf1yffqwQL1Jdv445ZeYxSuGiD
1J14KoZVUXrG3P4Rcs6URZQ1dJHY77tVWQ

Account 1 Bitcasino deposit address:
3G4r8XMKgvKFq3M29kNuV9RE6kvq7eY5Qh
Account 2 Bitcasino deposit address:
3Bn9pecZA6r3Z1bCYdh4GV5tM3DYXxMhzF
Casino Operator 1 deposit address:
1BnqgnQFVpevz7idhBHpdD2Axy7L9ZC42U
Casino Operator 2 deposit address:
38492UnXhifAE4Yag26Lbp6beoxB1cLTDT

Blockchain links to each relevant transaction:

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/68c63caf998c3e84f342caa988d1e439f8cd78174aa389185b3e4a06f0ecf27b
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/7dbd1fe62c6afb93ecaa8ce0eed7cb0e90210de93151eb29f894a81c32cacc25
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/571a8a4c2f6d59044e669f5f5956e4544970fce7aea21feb3d32caa577b35497
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/90eea9f590e77ce6e9e70de79911ef38275e0d22642b54c02d34343c3b59bbdb
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/5a9b14457a493e6c237d1e38dd1b80082af45e217a77782fdd605fd5e09dd4ee
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/52777ed072b6fdd1c3cbb8b14ce7fb37556d302a0e9eaa64e801731c8b92fcb3


Given the 100% match, our fraud team’s extensive findings supported by GameArt’s investigation and the history we have with this user
the account will not be unfrozen and the funds will not be paid out. There is no settlement, this is false information.

Bitcasino has been around for just over six years now, that type of longevity is not possible in our industry if you’re scamming or acting with ill intent.
On average we pay out legitimate winnings in two minutes but we will never be publicly blackmailed into paying out illegitimate gains.

There may be people here who, for their own reasons, will not want to believe or agree with our decision.
To that we can only urge everyone to think critically about this case and explore the evidence available.
There are plenty of red flags that can be seen in the original thread, from the YouTube video to now being private to the very fact that the
user has been withdrawing 25BTC over the past few days - something which has already been noted by Bitcointalk members.

We will continue to work with our fellow crypto casinos and game providers to ensure that we are aware
and can protect ourselves from future attacks on both the technical and reputational fronts.

Currently, we’re in talks with the other casinos and those businesses affected to see whether or not they are happy to go public with their encounters with LAngel.
While we can’t make them, we strongly believe it’s important for our community to be united against such manipulation.

Lastly, we say it a lot but fun, fast and fair isn’t just our marketing motto - this is what we work and live by at Bitcasino.
We’re hopeful that the community here will explore the case and support us on the matter as it has done so many times before.

Should any member of the community have more information about this individual please feel free to reach out to enquiries@bitcasino.io or to myself.
You can also do so anonymously if you feel the need to.

Cheers,
Karl
Bitcasino.io


I am happy that bitcasino came up with the response that was expected from them. Thanks guys, you saved me big time from the stone I had on my chest.

Cheers,

PS: If anyone wants to continue discussion then feel free to jump here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260832.0
5218  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitcasino.io comes to a non disclosed agreement with a user who won 171 btc on: July 08, 2020, 01:25:16 PM
The account is frozen and will stay frozen. We have never made any settlements with the user in question.

Cheers,
Karl
Bitcasino.io
I have no more merit to share with  you but hey my head is still spinning around.
5219  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitcasino.io comes to a non disclosed agreement with a user who won 171 btc on: July 08, 2020, 01:18:43 PM
the account will not be unfrozen and the funds will not be paid out. There is no settlement, this is false information.
Can you confirm that you meant to say that the bitcasino.io account of user LAngel is still frozen and there were no settlement of giving him 48 BTC?

By the way, I am still swallowing the information you have provided. So, I will be giving my full feedback later once I will have a clear understanding.

Edit: Archived http://archive.vn/wip/Gg1nX
5220  Economy / Reputation / Re: Bitcasino.io comes to a non disclosed agreement with a user who won 171 btc on: July 08, 2020, 01:02:14 PM
Deposit should be blocked/refunded and user not allowed to play. Allowing him to play and win big, then take 2/3rds of his winnings away is pretty nuts.
Double-edged sword.

Quote
Allowing him to play
No one ever thought that one can win 171+ BTC from 0.035 BTC. So, casinos keep sucking the money of users that's how I am making sense from this.
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