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5241  Other / Politics & Society / Re: No Woman, No Drive on: October 30, 2013, 03:02:48 PM
Haha, awesome!
5242  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's Count to 21 Million with Images on: October 30, 2013, 02:43:29 PM
5243  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 30, 2013, 02:42:01 PM
And Labcoin can't go under 0.0001. Smiley
There is only 17 BTC on the buy side. It can go to zero.

It was just a joke...
5244  Economy / Securities / Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining) on: October 30, 2013, 02:36:54 PM
Seriously, WTF?
Anyone buying this, at any price, is nuts... or a daytrader. This is pretty much like most altcoin trading; just hoping to sell it higher no matter what is behind.

Should we buy activemining or icedrill instead? End of the day Labcoin has 10TH

And Labcoin can't go under 0.0001. Smiley
5245  Other / Off-topic / Re: Adobe hack attack affected 38 million accounts on: October 30, 2013, 02:35:01 PM
Now I only trust google for their security. So far they are having the best anti hack system. Am I right?

They have the money to hire the best people in the world, they have an incentive program for people finding vulnerabilities, and they do have the user best interests in first place, well, right next to the customer, of course. Smiley
5246  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: October 30, 2013, 02:23:20 PM
I think we might be a little outnumbered her OP.  Of course the Bible says "narrow is the road and few will find it" so I guess it is to be expected.  Kind of like the rest of the world does not really get "bitcoin" many people don't "get Jesus" but they have not really searched.  Or they think that they have it all figured out.

Wrong!!!

There are like 2 billion Christians in the planet, not a "narrow" road, when I was born there was something like 95% Christian population in my country, now there are 80%, how the fuck is that narrow?


Dude, there were no "Christians" before Jesus death, they were all Jews, the Christians persecution comes later.

And I just pointed a contradiction in the Bible, with the last words thing...

Christians = Believers that Jesus is Christ

There were Christians before his death, "Christ" simply means "the anointed one". If Jeshua vin Joseph is going to be called "Christ", then his followers (even during his life) can now be considered "Christians".

I didn't realize you were pointing out a contradiction, I thought you were telling me why it's ok to celebrate the death of a great person, as if it was good for the world. It's almost cannibalistic in nature, so it just gets at me that people are so adamant. Again, I didn't realize you were pointing something out. Sorry.

There were quite a few Christs at the time, I suppose it was good business to be a messiah, and yes the apostles were persecuted by Paul, and then he became Christian too, but this was after Jesus death.
5247  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Origin of the Human DNA on: October 30, 2013, 02:51:04 AM
We are the current pinnacle of evolution on Earth, yes.

Why?

And that doesn't even make sense...
5248  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Origin of the Human DNA on: October 30, 2013, 02:47:54 AM
One thing most people can agree on is that the human brain is the pinnacle of evolution.

The importance of its recent development (in the last 2 million years) is that it has become fully self-referential and can examine the environment in the abstract and in past and future states, with apparent free will. So, for 99.99% of Earth's history natural selection was a mindless process generating fitter and fitter organisms, then a tipping point was reached where an end-product of natural selection has became a significant force in it.

Today the human brain is the most important influence in the evolution of life by transforming the world (usually not for the best). Whole species have been transported to new continents, others made extinct, acidification of the oceans, domestication of animals and plants, genetic engineering have effectively put evolution into fast forward.

Sorry, I have to disagree, you do not now, and you cannot make such a claim!

We now have the capability of destroying the environment, will it be by nuclear war, global warming, super-virus, doesn't matter, plus we face the asteroid menace, in these scenarios, humans will probably became extinct, but many other forms of life will continue their lives, like cockroaches and Nautilus, because they have the characteristics that permit them to perpetuate their species in this "new world".

There's no pinnacle of evolution, there's just change and adaption.
5249  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Remember Bitcoin Newbies - Never gamble with more than you can afford to lose on: October 30, 2013, 02:30:06 AM
One should not invest more than are able to lose financially or emotionally.

Golden rule ^
5250  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbie saying Hello on: October 30, 2013, 02:27:34 AM
Welcome.

Just four hours surfing around and you're clear. Smiley
5251  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: October 30, 2013, 02:20:54 AM
No, I believe in a man named Jeshua vin Joseph who was not the savior of man kind, but sacrificed himself so that his followers may live in peace from the government.

When Jesus was killed, Rome felt it was safe to stop hunting down Christians so aggressively (at least for the time being).

And the belief contradicts itself. It says Jesus knew he was going to die, then Jesus is on the cross saying "Father, why have you forsaken me. In your heart forsaken me. In your eyes forsaken me. In your mind forsaken me."

He was not ready to die. He was not done. Stop acting like it was good that he died, it's gross that no one acknowledges his sadness at dying and potential if he had been allowed to live.

Wrong!!!!11


And you'll find another last words of Jesus.

Luke 23:46

Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” When he had said this, he breathed his last.

That is not wrong. After the death of Jesus they breathed a sigh of relief, as if it was almost over.

And just because he accepted it in the end, does not mean he knew about it before hand, or was finished living.

Dude, there were no "Christians" before Jesus death, they were all Jews, the Christians persecution comes later.

And I just pointed a contradiction in the Bible, with the last words thing...
5252  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Origin of the Human DNA on: October 30, 2013, 02:10:59 AM
For example: free will. The jury has been out on that one for ages, and they're still arguing about it.
Assuming it doesn't exist, when it comes to sexual reproduction we have no choice in the matter because we're just machines obeying our DNA programming.
Assuming it does exist, our free choices could legimately affect future generations.

Isn't our reproductive drive still controlled by what we find attractive? Thus, we seek out women with big boobs and big hips, and women seek out slim, muscular men? I don't think there's a lot of free will in what we find attractive, eve if cultural biases change.

I don't think there's free will at all in that matter, we like what we like, and fall in love with whom we fall in love without having any choice in the matter.

Another good example, I failed to mention in the previous post, sexual orientation, no one chooses to be heterosexual or homosexual or something elsesexual, there's no free will in this matter, I never made any choice, it's what I'm, if it's genes, social interactions, whatever it is, I didn't chose it...
5253  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Origin of the Human DNA on: October 30, 2013, 02:02:54 AM
As many posters here pointed out the evolution doesn't care about things like "style of life" or try to optimize for something. It just happens. So according to that view horses, cows and pigs had equal chances as dinosaurs to begin evolving wings. Since we have agreed that ostriches don't get any disadvantages of having wings while still being incapable of flight, then we should have seen pigs with rudiments of wings too, but we didn't. Truly random mutations must have produced that. Yet we only see the mutations, where they make sense and eventually lead to an implementation of some higher-order concept.

interlagos, sorry, but you lack even the minimum understanding of the laws of nature.

Go on Khan Academy and watch the Evolution videos, search the website I've already pointed you to...

It's pointless we try to explain you why pigs don't have wings when you lack the minimum understanding of how life works.
...

I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss his concerns though. There are some things that seem to influence evolution in obvious ways, yet science can't readily explain them.

For example: free will. The jury has been out on that one for ages, and they're still arguing about it.
Assuming it doesn't exist, when it comes to sexual reproduction we have no choice in the matter because we're just machines obeying our DNA programming.
Assuming it does exist, our free choices could legimately affect future generations.

On the one hand, evolutionists seem pro-free will because it gives organisms extra flexibility to adapt and it avoids the pitfall of rigid programming outliving its usefulness.

On the other hand, free will implies some kind of "god's handiwork" as it cannot be explained by purely physical effects such as chance. Thus they face the strange situation where a metaphysical conscious mind with godlike powers of free will results in superior evolution than a world without any of that metaphysical stuff!

Free will is a very easy argument in my perspective, there is no "real free will", non of the important things in your life, the things that define what you are, you have any choice in the matter, you don't choose your parents, you didn't chose where you're born, the color of your skin, you don't choose to born with a debilitating disease, you don't choose the person you fall in love with, your favorite color, your religion, if you analyze your life, you haven't chosen anything, and I'm disregarding things like you ordering a caramel icecream instead of a chocolate one, I concede we may have "micro free will" and even that is debatable.

So do you really think you have free will?
5254  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: October 30, 2013, 01:02:15 AM
No, I believe in a man named Jeshua vin Joseph who was not the savior of man kind, but sacrificed himself so that his followers may live in peace from the government.

When Jesus was killed, Rome felt it was safe to stop hunting down Christians so aggressively (at least for the time being).

And the belief contradicts itself. It says Jesus knew he was going to die, then Jesus is on the cross saying "Father, why have you forsaken me. In your heart forsaken me. In your eyes forsaken me. In your mind forsaken me."

He was not ready to die. He was not done. Stop acting like it was good that he died, it's gross that no one acknowledges his sadness at dying and potential if he had been allowed to live.

Wrong!!!!11


And you'll find another last words of Jesus.

Luke 23:46

Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” When he had said this, he breathed his last.
5255  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fort Hood soldiers say Army warned them off tea party, Christian groups on: October 30, 2013, 12:50:00 AM
I see far more calls on message boards by atheists to round up and kill Christians than by Christians to round up and kill atheists (or even abortion doctors).

And why is it OK to kill abortion babies but not abortion doctors?

Yeah, and did you read about that atheist who bomb another atheist temple because they disagree on wich disbelief was right?
5256  Local / Portugal / Re: Bitcoin - a saida para a crise on: October 29, 2013, 11:08:56 PM
O Cavaco já disse que a crise já acabou. Cheesy
5257  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Does Anyone Else Believe In Jesus Christ ? on: October 29, 2013, 11:06:45 PM
Certain parts of religion such as xmas, diwali, eid etc are good and are enjoyed by millions.

Even atheists enjoy xmas with friends and family because it is something that people tend to celebrate regardless of whether they are devout church goers.

Yeah, I do celebrate the Winter Solstice with a good dinner, and enjoy the gifts. Cheesy
5258  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Origin of the Human DNA on: October 29, 2013, 10:55:39 PM
As many posters here pointed out the evolution doesn't care about things like "style of life" or try to optimize for something. It just happens. So according to that view horses, cows and pigs had equal chances as dinosaurs to begin evolving wings. Since we have agreed that ostriches don't get any disadvantages of having wings while still being incapable of flight, then we should have seen pigs with rudiments of wings too, but we didn't. Truly random mutations must have produced that. Yet we only see the mutations, where they make sense and eventually lead to an implementation of some higher-order concept.

interlagos, sorry, but you lack even the minimum understanding of the laws of nature.

Go on Khan Academy and watch the Evolution videos, search the website I've already pointed you to...

It's pointless we try to explain you why pigs don't have wings when you lack the minimum understanding of how life works.

The animals you pointed are bad examples because they were artificially selected by humans.

Wings evolve separately in several species because it gave an advantage to the animal, and there is not something like a half-wing, it has always a purpose, wings in their earliest form (in some dinosaur) probably were useful for regulating temperature, slowly the animal was able to use those for 1) escaping predators 2) catching pray, and that characteristic was passed to the next generation and so on...

You can see this progression with every characteristic in the animal kingdom, how the eye evolved, how venom evolved, and so on.

We can't explain you everything case by case, but if you understand the fundamental laws of nature, you will understand why snakes do what they do, and why we walk on two feet.
5259  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Origin of the Human DNA on: October 29, 2013, 10:38:31 PM
I'd like to see a definition of "species" sufficient enough to account for all of life, without exception, before answering this question.

By the way, the best definition I can think of for a human is that "a human has two human parents," but that would be problematic for evolution (i.e. the first human would have to have come from non-human parents).  So...complicated question.

That's because there is not such thing as the first human, every animal or plant is always "between" species...
5260  Economy / Securities / Re: [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Labcoin Official Thread - Self-Moderated on: October 29, 2013, 10:23:12 PM
in other news 11.27TH peak

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