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5321  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anyone see the FRONTLINE episode on the NSA? Prepare to get angry. on: May 15, 2014, 03:24:27 PM
The problem with that argument is that he is just making stuff up. What evidence is there for his argument?

The problem with my argument is that you have never studied history and propaganda.

You don't know how it works.  You probably don't even know it exists.

Go read:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

Go read about how Frontline producer Lowell Bergman screwed Richard Grove when Richard tried to expose fraud built into the SEC's compliance software.


If you knew me you would not say that. I am quite aware of how intelligence operations work. My Dad was an FBI agent and Nazi interrogator, and I worked as a military contractor and war correspondent in some very screwed up places. I remember in Haiti learning the truth about truth from the special forces psy-ops I was living with. Guys who made shit up for the network press to repeat. I saw the lies of governments in wartime Yugoslavia, Guatemala, Algeria, and others.

I'ts not like I am currently pluged in, But what I learned is that the most important thing about intel gathering is evidence. Without evidence you are just daydreaming. I don't see how your assertion is based on anything other than an idea you have. You did not watch the show. Yet you have discerned that PBS is involved a secret operation. How did you get there?

I don't know about this other episode. Other than it has nothing to do with the episode in question.

 
 
5322  Economy / Speculation / Re: Who else is panic buying? on: May 15, 2014, 01:57:24 PM
You might want to take a breath first. Doing anything in a panic will degrade your performance.  Wink
5323  Economy / Gambling / Re: Trading bot 5% return on: May 15, 2014, 01:52:21 PM
Why is this in gambling?
Because it is a bet you are likely to lose?
I don't really know anything about his bot, but it is suspicious that it would be for sale. If you could make 1200% per year, would you tell anyone? Why not just keep reinvesting and making millions? Perhaps microkr could tell us.
5324  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anyone see the FRONTLINE episode on the NSA? Prepare to get angry. on: May 15, 2014, 01:44:00 PM
Do know that PBS is funded by the same corporations who work with the NSA.

Frontline is controlled opposition.  This "documentary" is what is known in the propaganda industry as a "Limited-Hangout Operation", a narrative specifically designed to present information that confesses, but limits damage by hiding the most critical transgressions.

One of my co-workers does this when his wife catches him cheating.  He confesses to minor transgressions in order to hide the really bad ones.

Did you watch it? It is a scathing criticism of the NSA by former employees who left rather than break the law. Your argument makes zero sense. In fact the documentary (by some of the best investigative journalist around) repeatedly points out how little we still know and how much more investigation is needed. Of course you aren't going to find a bunch of childish nonsense like infowars or something. These are actual researched facts by serious people.


His argument makes lots of sense. He never said the information was invalid, he simply defined it as a controlled release of information. This is a very common tactic in corporations and government. It doesn't invalidate the reality of it but simply provides the accused a forum from which to explain from a perspective that benefits them. Repeating information that everyone already knows costs them nothing, but this provides opportunity to censor or misdirect from other information which is not yet public. The alternative is to let people form their own uncontrolled opinions rather having them carefully and neatly defined for them via a television program, because clearly if it is on TV it must be true. There is a reason it is called programming.

The problem with that argument is that he is just making stuff up. What evidence is there for his argument? A guy who doesn't have any expertise in the subject thought it would be a better story if there was a covert agenda. That is all there is to his argument. A wild accusation from someone who does not know the players, does not know about "operations" beyond viewing episodes of 24, did not even watch the video.   
This is also why I believe gorillas are real and dragons are not real. EVIDENCE.
 
5325  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Anyone using Teamviewer? on: May 14, 2014, 08:15:47 PM
Ok, then. I'm using Fedora, btw Cheesy
I'm just going to go back to my cave now. lol   Lips sealed
5326  Other / Politics & Society / Re: An complete argument for same-sex marriages. You can't prove it wrong on: May 14, 2014, 08:10:57 PM
People who are anti-gay spend an awful lot of time thinking about gay sex, which seems kinda gay. Just sayin.  Wink
5327  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Anyone using Teamviewer? on: May 14, 2014, 08:02:51 PM
Hi friend. Can I make a suggestion?
...

Ok, thank you very much for warning me. I know it's a little risky...
Can you help me via TV? Please!
I would if I knew anything about mining. I have only played with mining years ago and the chances of me screwing up your computer are greater than me fixing it.  Embarrassed
Also, I have kinda forgotten how to use Windows. After switching to Linux it's like going back to DOS 5.1.
5328  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: First steps to take with bitcoin on: May 14, 2014, 07:52:29 PM
I suggest reading first. The most important reading you can do is the work of Satoshi. See the link in my signature below? That is the white paper and the subject of all you see here. Read it for yourself.

Some other things you might want to consider:

Don't try buying with PayPal or buy below market price. If it seems to good to be true... You know.
Don't make or ask for loans.
Don't get sidetracked by alt-coins or shares, securities, or any kind of schemes. Normally these turn out to be scams or very ill-conceived ideas.
Don't ever trade on "news". Many FUD and pump/dump operations are about getting you to panic buy or sell. Do your own homework and trust no one but yourself. 

Some of the things above can be legit, but until you thoroughly understand the protocol you are on thin ice doing any of them. Just get an account at an exchange in your country, fund it with a USPS money order, buy your coins and immediately transfer them to private keys under your exclusive control. Until that is done you really don't have bitcoins. Lastly, back up your wallet.dat file and put it somewhere safe. Loose your wallet and your coins are hopelessly lost.
5329  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Anyone using Teamviewer? on: May 14, 2014, 07:32:59 PM
Hi friend. Can I make a suggestion?
It may be worth a security shakedown before going any further. Teamviewer can open you to intrusion and possibly theft. It does not necessarily do that, but consider that TV allows others to remotely control your PC. Be careful. I also suggest not posting your account login info on the internet. It would be easy to determine your ISP and take your account. You may know all this and have a plan. But just in case I thought I would give you a heads up.
-Cheers
5330  Other / Politics & Society / Re: An complete argument for same-sex marriages. You can't prove it wrong on: May 14, 2014, 07:26:00 PM
If we legalize homosexual marriage today, then tomorrow they will ask for homosexual adoption to be made legal. Next they will ask pedophilia to be made legal.This will never stop. I have a suggestion. We can declare some country as a homosexual-only nation and all the homosexuals can move there. They will be free to do whatever they want. And the rest of the population can live with peace.

Good idea! I nominate the USA.  Cheesy Enjoy your new life in Saudi Arabia.
This country was founded by radicals who were religiously persecuted and wanted true freedom. That is where you don't make rules for me and I don't make them for you.
5331  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Anyone see the FRONTLINE episode on the NSA? Prepare to get angry. on: May 14, 2014, 06:00:32 PM
Do know that PBS is funded by the same corporations who work with the NSA.

Frontline is controlled opposition.  This "documentary" is what is known in the propaganda industry as a "Limited-Hangout Operation", a narrative specifically designed to present information that confesses, but limits damage by hiding the most critical transgressions.

One of my co-workers does this when his wife catches him cheating.  He confesses to minor transgressions in order to hide the really bad ones.

Did you watch it? It is a scathing criticism of the NSA by former employees who left rather than break the law. Your argument makes zero sense. In fact the documentary (by some of the best investigative journalist around) repeatedly points out how little we still know and how much more investigation is needed. Of course you aren't going to find a bunch of childish nonsense like infowars or something. These are actual researched facts by serious people.

5332  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-05-14] Could One Bitcoin Come To Be Worth $1 Billion? on: May 14, 2014, 05:50:50 PM
I treat these projections like the estimates of bitcoin going to zero.  Very stupid guesses.
5333  Other / Politics & Society / Re: An complete argument for same-sex marriages. You can't prove it wrong on: May 14, 2014, 05:48:38 PM
Who am I to say who you can love? It's your body, your family, and your choice.
5334  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 10 Amazing Acts Of Defiance Throughout History on: May 14, 2014, 03:28:32 PM
As a side note about "tank man". That image is almost completely unknown in China. That is how clamped down the government is there.
5335  Other / Politics & Society / Anyone see the FRONTLINE episode on the NSA? Prepare to get angry. on: May 14, 2014, 02:44:38 PM
Last night PBS aired part one of a story about the crimes of the NSA. It is an excellent recap of what is known and how we found out. There is a lot to be angry about and it further inspires me to flat out resist the NSA and not cooperate in any way.  None of us has to obey or participate in illegal acts. So get off the internet and onto the TOR net, use encryption and codes, lie like a motherf@(<#& on facebook to fill their databases with BS. More about what you can do here: https://prism-break.org/en/


You can see the show here. But note, part 1 is 2 hours and I think the whole thing is 4hrs.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/united-states-of-secrets/
5336  Other / Off-topic / Re: My Neighbor Fell for the "Grandson in Jail" Scam on: May 14, 2014, 02:32:27 PM
It's very sad when these scammers prey on the old and the vulnerable. Just shameless.  Angry
5337  Economy / Economics / Re: Forbes 2014 btc prediction on: May 13, 2014, 08:16:16 PM
Their 2011 prediction was that bitcoin can't work because it's not backed by anything. Why should I care about their guess now?
5338  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Armed Feds Prepare For Showdown With Nevada Cattle Rancher on: May 13, 2014, 08:11:40 PM
Last time I checked liberals don't often support guns, militias, farmers, or southerners really. You are trying to make your square biases fit into a round hole.
Check again. This time don't drink that tea they give you. The idea of liberal and conservative is the wool that is put before our eyes to hide the truth. For if the truth came out and people discovered we are all fighting the same monied interests they would fall. People are complicated and rarely buy into a set of disconnected beliefs despite what political fundraisers would like us to think.
I have ethical problems with abortion, carry a gun every day, love the south, am involved with CSA farming, despise laws that limit my freedom in any way. You know, a liberal.  
5339  Economy / Economics / Re: If Bitcoin was backed by Gold, how would it change its adoption? on: May 13, 2014, 07:51:24 PM
Backing just re-introduces counterparty risk and we're back at square one with this whole thing.
...

Amen! If you are willing to take on the risk of another entity then you should use dollars. They are backed by the government. They have a sketchy record, but still may be more trustworthy than most companies. 
You're ignoring the fact that Bitcoin has several unique properties and only focusing on the store of value. While counterparty risk is a big problem, business solutions for transferring assets will evolve that take advantage of Bitcoin as a decentralized protocol. That's what Bitcoin 2.0 is all about.

I totally agree about that. Maybe I said it wrong because I mostly disregard it as a store of value. I do not sell bitcoin at all. I buy it, then spend it on the internet. It's utility as a payment network is it's real strength, IMO. 
5340  Other / Politics & Society / Re: State Department buying massive cache of explosives, journalists claim on: May 13, 2014, 07:41:46 PM
I'd like to know more about this, but RT is filled with propaganda. Something many Russians understand. A bummer because they started so strong.

From the same legit source. Emperor Putin creams hockey legends; scoring six goals   Roll Eyes
http://rt.com/in-motion/158108-putin-plays-ice-hockey/

 



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