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5341  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Doubt the possibility of a scam] BestChange Bounty and Signature Campaign. on: January 14, 2020, 06:17:14 PM
Royse gave a nice green trust to a possibly scammy campaign
It seems you have not yet understood my angle of leaving that feedback counter.

TMAN left this:
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no escrow campaign - Users be aware. I will remove the tag after the user agrees to escrow or makes 1st payment
I disagree the Tag and I am going to counter yours. And I will tag them if they do not pay their participants as they promised.
Note: counter.

If I was to say something like this: "The exchange is blab blab with all positive things" then you could say that I left them a nice green trust. I was rarely giving them any feedback if there were no neg from you which is still harsh in my opinion.

I’m right he is wrong, read the whole thread



Which side you take? Left or Right?

also be donated by a neutral and his ideology seem right at a point.
Glad it was spoken out. Thanks bud.
5342  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Doubt the possibility of a scam] BestChange Bounty and Signature Campaign. on: January 14, 2020, 05:23:52 PM
The neutral you left is good enough to warn the visitors now.

On my last post to you, I had this point that you tagged them without doing any investigations of those scam accusations which was clear in your post before me and also tagged them just because they did not use escrow. As always, I can tag them only if they do not pay me after a week and with that I can create a flag 3 too.
5343  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Mutual betting pool] India vs Australia 1st ODI 14/01 - 08:00 GMT on: January 14, 2020, 05:15:48 PM
Okay, I won LOL
India played very bad cricket. Next match will be interesting.
5344  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Doubt the possibility of a scam] BestChange Bounty and Signature Campaign. on: January 14, 2020, 04:53:03 PM
it aint hard you fucking spaznozzle forker
Please do not start your poetry.

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if they scam then its a flag.
Falg type 1: Due to various concrete red flags, I believe that anyone dealing with this user has a high risk of losing money. (kinda like neutral tag which really does not carry much value and anyone can create it)
Flag type 2: user violated a casual or implied agreement with me, resulting in damages. (between you and the other party only then you can create one)
Flag type 3 : user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages. (between you and the other party only then you can create one)


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if  you dont care about DT and you are showing you have 0 comprehension about how it should work then clear your trust list or ask to be excluded.

Having a trust list always does not mean that one is doing it just to be in the DT network. Having a trust list means that one trust the judgements of user x or y or z or all or does not trust some of those users.

Asking to be excluded? I think you took that job to do.

Seems like your interpretation of trust setting is different than mine. Listen bud, we both do not have anything personal here so let's just move on.

Cheers,

Specially, because bestchange is company founded by russians (i mean by people from post USSR).
You mean if I start a business then you will not do business with me :-P
Пойми, что я имею в виду
5345  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Doubt the possibility of a scam] BestChange Bounty and Signature Campaign. on: January 14, 2020, 04:33:21 PM
I wouldn't mark and account green until I received lots of payments from that account or having a long interaction
I too do not hand out greens very easily. I have few guys who took large amount of loans and if I was into sending out greens very easily then those guys deserves the greens. I only leave a green when I am 100% confident about it.

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I believe you should do whatever you want and you believe is right and do not care if you are going to stay in dt or not.
I too believe the same. And if I were here to stay in the DT and building up my reputation then I would add users in my trust list and would PM them after with saying that I have added them in my trust list and would also hand out positive feedback to users who I would think may benefit me in future.

I hope you are getting my points here.

This is proof that you shouldn't be on DT as you have no idea what the positive trust you give shows to newbies.
Wrong unless you get some of the sarcastic part of my last post. Quoting bitmover and telling he has a point was just a diversion. Enough with the clues.

I can tell you that you have no idea where to send red tag. There are scopes of leaving red tag and leaving neutral tag. But leave it and let's not argue with who is wrong and who is right here. We both realized one thing here so far is that you and me are good in disagreement in this matter.

you will stay on my exclude list till you show you understand the consequences of your actions
By now you should have some decent idea that I really less care to be in the DT. So it does not matter for me. I still have doubt that your tag was appropriate there. You can only tag them if they do not pay their participants.

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I also will call for other DT1 members to exclude you.
If they agree with you then of-course they should exclude me.
5346  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcointalk Poker Night @ Sportsbet (Private game exclusively for forum members) on: January 14, 2020, 04:07:32 PM
Hey Royse,

it wouldnt be unusual for a first-timer to win - just donk your way to the final table!  Cheesy
Seriously I have not much idea how they play it. I think I tried in blackjack dot com or io site in here when they had their signature campaign running but lost whatever money I deposited there several times LOL

When I see something to do together in the community I feel very tempted and I am tempted in this one too to contribute/to_be_a_part_of_it. But poor me that I do not know the game.
5347  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Doubt the possibility of a scam] BestChange Bounty and Signature Campaign. on: January 14, 2020, 03:56:40 PM
Just found out they have accepted me in their signature campaign. I applied there yesterday knowing that they do not have any escrow. There are campaigns we have seen without escrow and in the first glance it make sense that they will just scam but in this one, I did not feel any red alarm and this is why I applied (this is my personal experience by the way. Other does not have to have the same feeling). I can be damn wrong and after a week they may not pay me which is very possible but in this case they get red tag from me and also from other DTs or users without any question. But right now giving them red seems too harsh.

There are no question that in this forum it is easy to scam users and as a community we those have good experience, we try to protect them. And you are right that 9 out of 10 times who refuse to escrow turns out scammer. Best_Change can resolve it just by asking for an escrow but I have no idea why they are not doing it however not doing this does not mean that we as a community will force them to do it. This topic by eddie13 is a good read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207250.0

There are no question that I am new compared to you but this is also true that I also learnt a lot on my way in this forum to protect me and the community. Some of the things but not limited to everything of course is here.

I know when two DT users especially DT user like you who are with the community longer before than me and has a big follow base gets the edge in most of the cases and in this case hearing you actually will benefit me and all those opportunist (the forum is full with opportunist, most of them actually do not care about the community but just pretend to be a part of it) would do this. Shall I do this too?

I think I should but a part of me still says that this is wrong, this is very harsh and this tag of yours should get a counter. A part of me says that I should stand by my decision but if I do then that means that I will be losing my DT status? Does one really need a DT status too speak for what they feel right?

Edit: What is terrible about the +1 in their account, is that newbies can think the account should be trusted, while they clearly can't trust them. They may prove themselves to be trusted (if they pay), but they are promising high payment without any escrow.
You have a point and I removed my counter.
5348  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Doubt the possibility of a scam] BestChange Bounty and Signature Campaign. on: January 14, 2020, 03:12:06 PM
then you are on my distrust list now as you are going to give them an un earned green mark you fool
It's your trust list and you keep it how you want. I will tag them only if they do not pay the participants. The forum users are adult enough and going through the feedback page they can decide what is good for them.

Talking about the green? As long as yours get removed I will remove mine too as mine is serving as the counter of yours. I am really not into leaving feedback and stuffs much by the way.

I really do not see the point to tag someone just because they did not use escrow. My mind is open to listen by the way. Feel free bud.
5349  Economy / Reputation / Re: [Doubt the possibility of a scam] BestChange Bounty and Signature Campaign. on: January 14, 2020, 02:58:33 PM
What happens if the BestChange Bounty and Signature Campaign does not use escrow, which has been provided in this bitcointalk forum.
If they do not pay the bounty and signature campaign participants then they will get red tag. Plain and simple. Can we force them to use escrow? No, we can not.

@YOSHIE, there are two dimension of your topic.
1. You are questioning them not to use escrow
2. Few scam accusations against them. <=== I have not verified them so I really do not have any idea about the status and details of those accusations.

You left them a negative feedback saying:
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Some participants complained about the company (BestChange) that it was likely a fraud and did not use the available escrow. Be Careful.
Note: likely
And also note: Did not use available escrow.

So it turns out that you tagged a user based on your observation (likely fraud) only, did not bother to do an investigation and also you tagged them because they did not use any escrow?

Do we really tag users because they do not use escrow and without any investigation on the scam accusations they have against them?

TMAN left this:
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no escrow campaign - Users be aware. I will remove the tag after the user agrees to escrow or makes 1st payment
I disagree the Tag and I am going to counter yours. And I will tag them if they do not pay their participants as they promised.
5350  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcointalk Poker Night @ Sportsbet (Private game exclusively for forum members) on: January 14, 2020, 02:31:47 PM
Outch!
Someone teach me poker please :-D
I regret why I was not into these types of card games ever.
5351  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: January 14, 2020, 12:02:51 PM
It seems 300+ was an easy goal but now looks like we will see a score of highest 280? I do not trust Pant much so considering him to be gone in any moment LOL
280 seems tough too since India is consistently losing wickets at this point. If Jadeja and Pant fall, I feel like they might reach 250 which will be an easy target for the Australians. They need to post something close to 300 to stay competitive at this point.

Its been a long time since Indian batsmen faced any quality bowling attack (almost 8 months after world Cup and facing Ban, WI, SL, SA) and when they did on batting pitch they lost their way completely, Although Indian tailenders doing okay job .
Good point you got there. Indian batsmen were getting this habit of facing average bowling and today on a sudden the table turned upside down. Now they are all gone for 255 runs and it will be interesting to see how the Indian bowlers perform against top batsman of Australia.

My horse has very good chance to win :-D
5352  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2020, 11:24:27 AM
Feels good to be a part of the hat gang although I do not post here a lot.
5353  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⭐ Crypto-Games.net ⭐ Since 2014 ⭐ Faucet ⭐ Largest Wagering contest...ever ⭐ on: January 14, 2020, 11:18:36 AM
Never been with crypto-games but for some reason I had this topic on my notification and it seems they have some exciting events to check ouy. Slowly I am getting hocked lol


Current Progressive Dice/Roulette Jackpot balances:
  • 3.87 BTC
If I am not getting it wrong then only one player is going to get all?
5354  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: January 14, 2020, 10:45:34 AM
It seems 300+ was an easy goal but now looks like we will see a score of highest 280? I do not trust Pant much so considering him to be gone in any moment LOL
5355  Economy / Services / Re: Bitsler Signature & Avatar Campaign (Closing Friday) on: January 14, 2020, 10:33:54 AM
BTC paid out: BTC106
USD value of BTC paid out: $430,000

This is a huge contribution to the community and I am sure you also got some outstanding business from here. This community is great to build up a good business and it has proven again.

Well done Baryom and Bitsler. Also impressive achievement for yahoo62278 too.
5356  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: recovering seed from address on: January 14, 2020, 10:13:03 AM
^
It seems the OP wanted to say that his friend lost his device and the seeds were written in a paper and his freind's hand writing is terrible.

He lost his seed and I am trying to recover his funds for him.  Only thing is that his handwriting is terrible and we're having a hard time figuring out the exact 24 word phrase.


Anyway, I think the best suggestion was given by nc50lc and I will echo it too.
5357  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: January 14, 2020, 10:03:13 AM
India 2 down.
This match is not going to be a one sided one. Both team knows their game even scoring a 300+ runs will not be safe enough against a team like Australia. My money on Australia by the way. 
5358  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Mutual betting pool] India vs Australia 1st ODI 14/01 - 08:00 GMT on: January 14, 2020, 08:59:29 AM
1. Address to send your winnings:  Please keep in your wallet
2. Bet amount: 0.0001
3. Your Pick: India
4. Tx (if any): None
Accepted!
5359  Other / Meta / Re: Who wants to start a newbie project on the beginners' board with me? on: January 13, 2020, 07:43:07 PM
Let me know what is in your mind. I too have lots of sMerits to support your project.
5360  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Mutual betting pool] India vs Australia 1st ODI 14/01 - 08:00 GMT on: January 13, 2020, 05:28:41 PM
Yes typo. Copied from the other post but forgot to edit it LOL
I was suppose to pick Australia.

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1. Address to send your winnings: Same arragement - Please keep in your wallet-
2. Bet amount: 0.0001
3. Your Pick: India
4. Tx (if any): None
Accepted!

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Didn't get the notification in TG but anyways, Please feel free to transfer my proposed amount of bet in the pool. My total balance was 0.0006 Btc ( last match winning of 0.0001 btc is included)

Total balance was: 0.00059850 BTC :-D

Tx: 1cb0a969068f727ce5d624041a4e1b0da4ecb58d1aa891b4f56af3633735e7d0
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