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5361  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: July 06, 2015, 04:54:59 PM
The way that I would use to grow my bitcoin is buy clams, deposit them on just-dice.com and stake your clams for a year. After a year come back and transfer ur clams to bitcoins.

Why are you so sure that clams price will have chance to rise? I guess clam volume trading can't compete with ltc or dash, without a good volume I dont think people will start to adopt this coin. What I do know is clams mostly use by gambler only for gambling and only few people trading clam so clam is still far more to catch up with these coins
5362  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Cost of Bitcointalk Accounts. on: July 06, 2015, 04:12:14 PM


This prices are approximated values .

Junior Member : 1 USD BTC
Member : 8 USD  BTC
Full Member :  10 USD  BTC
Hero Member : 20 USD BTC
Legendary Member : 50 USD BTC

Those estimations are miles off, it's closer to something like this -

(Obviously prices depend on the supply & demand, also varying factors like multiple positive trust can make an account more expensive/valuable) :

Jr. Member : 0.003BTC - 0.005BTC /      0.77 - 1.28 USD
Member : 0.01BTC - 0.05BTC        /       2.51 - 12.76 USD
Full Member : 0.1 - 0.25BTC         /       21.52 - 63.81 USD
Senior Member : 0.3BTC - 0.5BTC /       76.58 - 127.62 USD
Hero Member : 0.7BTC - 2BTC      /       178.69 - 510.46 USD
Legendary Member* : 2.5 - 5BTC  /        638.18 - 1276.35 USD

*Legendary valuation a pure guess as I've never seen one for sale here.


There are some legendary sales , very rare but most of the legendary accounts have negative trust so they go for way less than posted above.
Links:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1081410.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=963254.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=946840.0
Lol found these just from a google.
Buying account with valid negative trust, even legendary account is counterproductive. I can't imagine who would want to buy it. (Unless of course you are the one who gave that account red trust and can remove it, and I've seen something like that before unfortunately). I can say that the best value per money is senior member - you could easy ROI and the profit with it fast. Other types of accounts are just too expensive or waste of time.

I dont think with his rank he can make red trust on legendary member. Plus legendary member is very trustable and i dont think people will use that for scam just to earn some low bitcoin. Besides senior member you can also get full member, it is easy to get full member out there if it is matter of price
5363  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: July 06, 2015, 04:07:59 PM
If Bitcoin becomes the store of value for the majority of the people unbanked, it could replace gold as the preferred medium for storing wealth.

To replace gold bitcoin must make the price stable enough because compared to gold bitcoin is too far to make it stable. And one more thing that without the volatility of bitcoin, bitcoin will lose their attractive to people because bitcoin will no longer as a trading but a pure investment. So it must be considered well enough

bitcoin is fairly stable recently, if we can maintain this climbing, we can have both, stability and a good price

also volatility it's bad only when bitcoin falls, not when it's rise for evident reasons, this is not true for merchants, but it is true for holders

Yes but we need more adoption to maintain this climbing, with low response from people I dont think this will stay longer

Volatility affects all people not when it falls, when its high people will start to buy too and when people but in a wrong time they will suffer a loss too but in other side we need volatilty to earn more profit so sometimes it will need volatility but not too often
5364  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gaming on the Blockchain on: July 06, 2015, 04:02:29 PM
I'm currently playing Monster Hunter for no bitcoins whatsoever, and finding it fairly enjoyable. In fact, I paid money for this game.

Are you playing that game for free without doing some earning? Altough it is fairly enjoyable or may be you are having fun with it, if there is no earning why you going to play it? All this game is only for fun? Nothing else?

are you serious? your only reason to live is to earn money? the real aims of anyone should be the fun aspect of the life not earning money, unless you find that earning money, is fun too

i think you are not a gamer, and you never played any game even remotely

Yes Im really serious when its about earning because I just lose my bitcoin and now I want to try to earn by playing this game. If this game is just for fun and without good earning I dont think I can play it. May be some other time when I get back my own capital first. Im a gamer when its come to earning. I play game just to earn what I do lose in that game so the point is I want to play games that have a good earning and I can payback what I lose from time, money and everything that correspond to it

If you're still looking for a way to make some money, you might like this news:

Quote
Free BitCrystals for Moonga players

To thank you for your support and your fidelity, we have decided to give free BitCrystals to all Moonga players!

Each player will receive a certain amount of BitCrystals, accordingly to his gaming experience. Precisely, you will get 0.5 BitCrystal for 1 experience point.

So we hope to give you the desire to discover Spells of Genesis.

Of course Im still curious about this game and still didnt understand how to get money from it. Btw 0.5 bitcrystal is how much in bitcoin? so I will know is it worth to play or not. It is not that I not believe it but I just want to do some calculations here
5365  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetterBets.io - Bitcoin Casino 20% Cashback VIP POWER PLINKO!★DICE★HORSE RACING★ on: July 06, 2015, 03:54:04 PM
You said that this applies to all games. Does this mean it merges all together?
And where could we check our volume? Do it reset every week?
One more questions, if you are in VIP, then one day suddenly you didnt roll it will my vip get withdrawn?
5366  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 06, 2015, 03:44:33 PM
I they will not put at the bank that have a bad background.

The reputation of the bank actually doesnt matter anyway because once the entire economic system of a country fell apart, no matter how great their previous reputation is then they will probably fell apart too. A bank is not a standalone company because it relly on the country's economic system as well

But that is not that sudden when we are going to make some safe deposit and the economic fell. That is not too coincidence. I think bank reputation is the first one people think to make safe deposit the second one is the rate. Many banks give 'high' deposit just to attract people but when it comes to background their bank is nothing compare to others
5367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: July 06, 2015, 02:44:35 PM


Whats the point of having so much rolls? That is not guarantee you will win a lot from that high roll small bet. You will can sustain more losses but it is just wasting time if you can't get profit from it






I have no idea why people set up bots to run so many rolls in a row without actually doing anything, but that doesn't change the fact that people do it. It is much easier to get to 1 million rolls, and therefore have a 38% chance of losing 20 in a row and losing everything on a dice site with a bot than it would be at a roulette table if you had the bankroll and a casino willing to set up limits allowing you to use a martingale system where it takes 20 bets in a row to go broke.

Actually I didnt get what are you saying. The point is to make 1 million rolls without getting any profit is such a waste here. Although you make 1 million rolls and have 38% chance of losing it is pretty bad. Why not get a low rolls but get huge profit that seems more reliable and more efficient of your time too
5368  Economy / Economics / Re: Is bitcoin dead? on: July 06, 2015, 02:36:15 PM
I don't understand why people are crying and cribbing about some temporary price fall

Most people actually are considering wether BTC is dead by measuring it from its price and it is pretty much has become the standard things around here and so you can expect every single complaint the moment BTC is having a fall because some people expect that the price will be keep on rising. This happen pretty much every time there is a huge fall in the price however once the price goes back up, you can see the same people coming back up and shows us his joy over it

Some great quote regarding BTC price and this truly describe the situation around here

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If BTC rise , people says thats a bubble and if BTC falls people says it is dead



maybe the price of Bitcoin could die in the future , but the bitcoin protocol will never die, until there will be a blockchain , there will be exchange of bitcoin

Bitcoin will never die if there are still many transactions is being made everyday so when the time blockchain is die bitcoin will sure die not the otherwise
5369  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make money on bitcointalk? on: July 06, 2015, 02:27:00 PM
......
2. Buying an account(higher rank is better but cost more) and apply for signature/avatar campaign
3. Search for offers, if you have any good skills people will hire you.
4. Buy/sell accounts

Sorry if i missed anything.
Good Luck.
i want to mention the reddit.com/r/Jobs4bitcoins for people who are looking for hiring or being hired to do jobs for bitcoin payment.

and i also think buying and selling accounts might not give you the profit that you expect.

Haven't hear about that subreddit but seems very interesting and many people looking to hire different people.

About buying and selling account gives you profit.
Do you know that even if you sell as much as you buy you will get still profit?

It depends on bitcoin price actually, if it rise sure you will get profit, but if it low how are you going to manage this?




......
2. Buying an account(higher rank is better but cost more) and apply for signature/avatar campaign
3. Search for offers, if you have any good skills people will hire you.
4. Buy/sell accounts

Sorry if i missed anything.
Good Luck.
i want to mention the reddit.com/r/Jobs4bitcoins for people who are looking for hiring or being hired to do jobs for bitcoin payment.

and i also think buying and selling accounts might not give you the profit that you expect.

Haven't hear about that subreddit but seems very interesting and many people looking to hire different people.

About buying and selling account gives you profit.
Do you know that even if you sell as much as you buy you will get still profit?

agree with it, Buy with lower activity then rise the activity ( 14 activity ) will give you more profit..,,
i did it sometimes... Wink

I was meaning this and another thing:
If we buy an account and we apply immediately for signature campaign after 2 weeks you will earn something from signature campaign
then you will get your money (or more) selling the account.
So you will have profit ? think about it Smiley Smiley

Yes you will get 2 times money, from campaign payment and selling account payment, but do you think if you didnt have any account more, you will not getting the next payment. Why not buying a good account then make it level up to higher rank, I guess it is more effective rather than buying and selling again and again, it is wasting your time
5370  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What's your biggest problem with Bitcoin on: July 06, 2015, 02:13:22 PM
The biggest issue is the volatility and I think that's what scares a lot of people off, but at the same time its that volatility that is very attractive to speculators and thus the potential for profit. For the average user who may wish to use it as a currency though it can be scary for them.

This is what I thought for the first time Im doing trading bitcoin, I scare about the volatility but at last I think without any volatility I dont think I can get good profit. With this volatility we can earn every time and get much profit from it

But the opposite is also true. You can lose a lot of money and profit not at all. Trading or investments always carry risks and are not always profitable.

Nope if you know how to maintain your trading and try to see the situation too, I think you can minimalize your loss when you really have that bad luck
5371  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: July 06, 2015, 02:04:45 PM
As far as i know signature campaign only earn more.
But based on other views i also heard about gambling which also pays more.
You can hav a look at that.
yeah signature campaign is a nice way for anyone to earn bitcoin from for being active in the forum. but gambling is not a way that pays you bitcoin, you lose more than you can earn from gambling.

Nope actually it depends n your luck too. Some of them earn bitcoin through gambling like hitting jackpot for couple of times, you can check this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=757624.4320, they are having many people hit 999x and they succeed it so try your luck sometimes  Grin
These jackpots not coming daily these are very rare and working just once in years for very lucky person many peoples give too much for these but never touch them

But if you have a good bankroll you can do it everytime nonstop until you hit the jackpot and IMO what you get will bigger than you loss. See Luckyb.it, there are several people hit 999x or 130x and that is not in a years. Told you that you really just need you luck in a gambling site



Invest in altcoin. Wait. Sell altcoin and get your BTC.

I guess not all altcoin you can invest nowadays, moreover a new altcoin. It is very risky depends on them
5372  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or Gold? What would you pick? on: July 05, 2015, 06:15:22 PM
If Bitcoin becomes the store of value for the majority of the people unbanked, it could replace gold as the preferred medium for storing wealth.

To replace gold bitcoin must make the price stable enough because compared to gold bitcoin is too far to make it stable. And one more thing that without the volatility of bitcoin, bitcoin will lose their attractive to people because bitcoin will no longer as a trading but a pure investment. So it must be considered well enough
5373  Economy / Economics / Re: Let's Be Honest. We Are Waiting for $100/BTC to buy on: July 05, 2015, 06:04:08 PM
I disagree with that. I'm not so much familiar with the bitcoin mining as to declare some sweeping assertions and final judgments, but AFAIK, the mining difficulty decreases when miners fall off. So, in a sense, the system is automatically load-balanced (to keep it going), and therefore mining will always remain profitable in the long run, at least to some miners...

Until the number of coins to mine is exhausted, of course

I guess mining bitcoin take so long time but you can't get some profit due to the expenses of your equipments? How can it will remain profitable in a long run? With longer mining your cost will become bigger and bigger and I dont think you can cover it with your profit from mining

I don't mean that mining will remain profitable for everyone. I mean there will always be some miners for whom mining will bring in profits. When miners which suffer losses stop mining, the mining difficulty decreases, which allows the remaining miners (that are on margin) earn more with their existing equipment...

It is a dynamic system which balances itself through the mining difficulty, thereby offsetting the price changes  

If some miners are suffer losses, all miners will do the same right? Because they mine bitcoin together if one loss others will loss to except they are gambling to hold and continue mining? Is that what you mean? Although some miners on losses they will mine again until they are on profit?

Not necessarily. In fact, there are scarcely two miners with the same costs per Bitcoin mined per same difficulty. Electricity prices differ significantly across the globe (and some are using it free of charge). Mining equipment is also very divergent in its productive capacity. Add to this that some miners pay taxes while others do not...

So you mean that some of them will have the chance to get profit although other are suffer the loss? Because of the elctricity and taxes? But what I know cost of their electricity isnt the same and some countries will have really high cost? Is there any miners there? I guess their payout from mining can't even cover their electricity cost like in German or Denmark they have very high cost. Didnt count their equipment taxes yet
5374  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: July 05, 2015, 05:38:11 PM
As far as i know signature campaign only earn more.
But based on other views i also heard about gambling which also pays more.
You can hav a look at that.
yeah signature campaign is a nice way for anyone to earn bitcoin from for being active in the forum. but gambling is not a way that pays you bitcoin, you lose more than you can earn from gambling.

Nope actually it depends n your luck too. Some of them earn bitcoin through gambling like hitting jackpot for couple of times, you can check this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=757624.4320, they are having many people hit 999x and they succeed it so try your luck sometimes  Grin
5375  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you like best about bitcoin? on: July 05, 2015, 05:33:36 PM
It's anonymous. But the problem is for example someone try to purchase drugs using bitcoin. This become a new era of transaction without being notice.

There is pro and contra about it, it is just the same as fiat, you can't make something in a prefect condition, there will be some who support you and some who dont so just let it flow

The best thing in bitcoin is, I can save it in my own bank, blockchain, and get full control of it. We don't need the teal banks anymore, and don't let them take our money.

The disadvantage IMO, what will happen if internet get shut by some accident or disaster... I think there's no way out to recover our bitcoin once that happen

Which disaster will cause that? Lets say if they got disaster they must have something to backup their internet and there is no way that they will shutdown the internet, because the new era which is going is online so everyone need online things, who didnt have any internet can't compete in outside
5376  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 05, 2015, 04:56:44 PM
but it should be remembered that investment is very safe.

Do note that safe haven doesnt exist in this world.

If you want a safe invesments better save it at bank and you will earn you profit there around 5-7% per year and you need to pay a lot of fee that you will have your payout below 5-7%

Saving in bank will get you less than 1 % monthly . "Saving" is pretty much different from safe deposits ( if that is what you meant ) . Saving is not actually feasible because the interest rate per annum ( assuming it is compounded ) will be less than the inflation rate yearly .

On the other hand, safe deposits pretty much could be consider as a "safe" investment for some people and it is up to 7.5 % per annum depending on your capital as well as the duration. The word "safe" is actually mean that it is safe if you compare it to the inflation rate yearly which means that you are still getting something (unless the country suffer a huge inflation ) but as the current incident that Bank could fall apart, it is not actually "safe" in term of security though

I they will not put at the bank that have a bad background. With some analysis they will sure to put it in the bank that for few years later it will not fall apart. So it is save to put in safe deposit or may be you can take precautions but try to take short duration like about one year or lower, of course the interest will be lower but I think it is safer enough. With this it is quick to get your capital back with low interest but at least its back. Or may be you can start a business may be you can earn more compare to saving into bank account or may be safe deposit
5377  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: July 05, 2015, 04:50:41 PM
100 Bitcoins ,I seriously believe that Bitcoin could be the greatest transfer of wealth in human history. Although my friends and family still think I'm crazy

If you have 100 bitcoins and trying to believe Greenstox word I guess it is more than enough 100 bitcoins with $1m per bitcoin. You can live happily in the next couple of years. Goodluck and keep your bitcoin in a safest place  Grin



no doubt with this kind of growth, i expect 1m$ / bitcoin very soon Smiley
5378  Economy / Economics / Re: Did Bitcoin Ruin Your Life, Or Help Your Life? on: July 05, 2015, 04:48:17 PM
My best advice for anyone seriously getting involved with Bitcoin is the key word "money management".

Yeah, money management: Buy Bitcoin and hodl. That's what I did and I will never regret it, because Bitcoin is a beautiful technology that I'm proud of supporting. (Of course I know that it might fail, so did not buy much.)

I get the impression that you are merely a trader that speculates on any asset that has enough volatility. You are measuring profits in fiat - so you don't care about Bitcoin at all. Most trader-type speculators will loose in the end, because they use unscientific methods (chart "analysis") and can't control their emotions - even realizing that on a rational level does not help much.

For a Bitcoin hodler, life is easy: You know you own the best currency and asset (two-in-one!) in the world, so you have zero inclination to buy other stupid things (fiat money, for example). You can just lean back, relax, and watch Bitcoin flourish.

ya.ya.yo!

What do you mean? With a good analysis I think they can get a good profit although all of it is just some speculation but most of them are making profit through the graphic anlysis and chart. And bitcoin holder most of them are having good fiat to turn into bitcoin and wait them to raise, if later the price just stay the same or lower they will not suffer much, but with specualtion trader, they use this as their earning to get some profit, learn how to read graphic and doing some analysis will make them more richer than people having rich fiat. Both of them are on contrary
5379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: July 05, 2015, 04:40:10 PM

lets you use martingale at least 20 times, which should be a "rare" event, you should be able to make a profit (if you can call 1 satoshi a profit).

20 times is not actually rare, it happen most of the time especially in a big site like PrimeDice which you can check that they have people gibbering the same thing about the house being rigged because of 20 + lost streak.
Also 1 satoshi is not a profit because you merely need to win 10,001 satoshi and withdraw it to your wallet to consider that you got profit considering the site is using standard 10k satoshi miners fee


Well if you need one million tosses to get a 38% of getting 20 heads in a row, that makes it a little "rare".
I'm not a dice expert, I don't know the amount of time you need to roll it a million times (guessing it should be fast with bots), and that's probably the reason you say that it happens "most of the time".

Not saying I like martingale or that it is profitable. I don't like and I don't consider it profitable. And like you said you always have the bet limit, which totally makes it undoable.

The problem with bots and such small minimum bets is that it's a LOT easier to do 1 million rolls on a dice site than it is in any casino game in a real casino.

Whats the point of having so much rolls? That is not guarantee you will win a lot from that high roll small bet. You will can sustain more losses but it is just wasting time if you can't get profit from it



well, I have to admit, that I'm little bit addicted watching others gambling:) this is few minutes old from one popular dice:



after this streak (5 losses in row, -5BTC) in less than two minutes I decided to stay away..Smiley
People who has money on that "famous site" usually stick on martingale with 2x or 2.3x and never change or almost never...the roll between high or low... some smart do it, others never even if you tell them to change it.
i tried the switch between rolling high and low for some time in order to just give it a try and mix things up. but the result was not different and lost the same amount as before even more. i can say my luck did not change anymore than when i bet on just low or just high.

Switching it high and low will worsen your result better let it all high or all low, just set it like you play as usual. All of it just depends on your luck, no matter how hard you try to change anything if you are on bad luck you will get it worse
5380  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How to make money on bitcointalk? on: July 05, 2015, 04:20:53 PM
Raise your account level and participate in signature campaigns seems the most reasonable approach, You can also try joining free giveaways in the games and rounds section.

Rather than raise your account level, its better for you to buy directly what rank do you want. You can buy it if you have constructive posts only, without doing constructive posts, you will be banned and it is such a wasting time, so you can start learn how to post a good posts and search a low cost full member to get a better payout. Why Im suggesting you a full member? Because that is the minimum rank you will get a good payout from signature campaign. You can search it at here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=93.0. You will find tons of account there and which signature campaign you are going to participate search here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0
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