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Who are the people really behind Cryptsy and it's allied/ cloned exchanges ?
What can we do to hold them morally and legally accountable for the frauds they have perpetrated on the crypto community ?
This story is so twisted and convoluted that it is difficult to know where to begin. So lets start with this most recent revelation regarding the owner and operator of Cryptsy, Paul and/or Mark Vernon. (see next post)
Please know that if you are a known Cryptsy insider/ collaborator and/or in an obvious past /present confict of interest, you will be ignored.
As for everyone else I look forward to hearing any and all opinions and information on this matter.
pEACe
HT xD
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i heard of that when posting my BTC pump pics in the Bitcoin section.
I also remembered the found Cryptsy version of the site..
Then that comment i missed on IRC the other day combined with Gleb's info + Insights
i think we have a winner.. ding ding
Hey, why don't just come out and say it: I'm Wright. I'm always Wright! (in your voice, not that I'm Wright)  Lets see if you're willing to ignore this one again Sherlock.. This is probably nothing.. but the name and the IP addys say POST THIS SHIT ! EDIT Over priced food for charity anyone ? Who needs Pad Thai rice when you have Vita-meal !  ================================================================================================================================== https://who.is/domain-history/tagcash.comRegistrant Name: Mark Vernon
Registrant Street: 2108 Corporate 88 Center 141 Valero St
Registrant City: Makati, Phillipines
https://www.google.ca/maps/place/88+Corporate+Center,+141+Valero,+Makati,+Metro+Manila,+Philippines/@14.5578657,121.0193036,14.64z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x3397c90600718a77:0x825c7a45987c8e57 What a mind blowing coincidence ! DABS' VitaMeal chums are literally just down the road from Mark and his shitcoin haven.. http://www.philippinesypages.com.ph/business_services/13376/nu-skin-enterprises-philippines-inc-alabang-in-muntinlupa-63-2-403-4005Nu Skin Enterprises Philippines Inc Alabang in Muntinlupa 63 2 403 4005 is located in Muntinlupa, Philippines. You can contact them on phone on 63 2 403 4005 or you can visit them at their address in Muntinlupa which is 2nd Floor, Building B, Bc Group Center, Filinvest Avenue, Filinvest Corporate City, Alabang, Muntinlupa City, 1781, Metro Manila. Nu Skin Enterprises Philippines Inc Alabang in Muntinlupa 63 2 403 4005
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That muderFUDdin dev is AWOL. Name: v.coinz
Posts: 397
Activity: 364
Position: Sr. Member
Date Registered: March 17, 2014, 04:39:21 AM
Last Active: September 04, 2015, 06:04:26 AM
Today is a good day for a shitcon ponzi to DIE ! mooohahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAA DIE for what...? The dev or whale used to simply 51% the shitcoin... now they just walk away, then come back with more false promises hoping some noob kickstart their ponzi.. Wake up.. .NO ONE wants your worthless computer data.  Hmm...do you think VC die for that..??and what about bitcoin..??July 2013 price $1000 and now in Dec 2015 BTC price $412..??this is PONZI game..??so VC=BTC is Shitcoin and pump n dump PONZI to..??right? Let me fix that for you. xD In short, history has repeated itself. The shitcoins of today are no different than the private banks that began appearing on every corner during the 1800s. The financial chaos they created gave the bankster paid polititians the opportunity they needed to implement their fiat based solution. https://www.corbettreport.com/federalreserve/They fooled us into trading our life's work and wealth for pieces of metal, then paper and now THIS. FUCK THEM. |
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The dev or whale used to simply 51% the shitcoin... now they just walk away, then come back with more false promises hoping some noob kickstart their ponzi.. Wake up.. .NO ONE wants your worthless computer data. Hippie Tech you are one of the most BAT SHIT CRAZY people I've ever had the honor of talking to or reading their posts here lol I do think that a lot of the things that you claim and say is true but then sometimes some of the other shit you say is just like WTF?  I mean I like how you seem to be someone who wants to expose scammers and what not even though you do it in a totally psychotic crazy way haha But much respect mate for TROLLING like NO OTHER TROLL HAS TROLLED BEFORE!!!! Cheers The crapcoin carnage I've left in my wake speaks for itself. Doesn't it ?   Also, please do not mistake my being overly descriptive for "BAT SHIT CRAZY".  |
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WTG .. drama queen shills ..
Will you stfu and run if I mention these points again ?
- "the Vernon (masonic hobo) Apostles eg. we have a Mark, Paul.. and possibly a Matthew
- BitJohn and his sock parade
- Speotnoob's "timeless" quotes, conflicts of interest and his .. I mean oldmankidd's, trollbox archive that suddenly went dry..
- Leroy and his sock parade and craptsy ties
- Crusty possibly being mee and/or muddafudda and/or the dev who cloned every coin available on stakeminers
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I/we challenged your identity here. Lets finish dealing with it here ! The sooner you do that .. the sooner we can move on. Are you worried that once we tie this together we may also figure out that you are mee and/or the shitcloner behind every coin listed on your site ? |
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@ Hippie Tech
Well you were attacking a coin I had invested in, so like a mirror I reflected back at you. Seriously, I think you need to get some help. I know the signs of mental illness and I now believe that you could be unwell. I'm not trying to score points here. You are obviously intelligent and have a great imagination. However, when imagination turns in on itself it can be destructive and incapacitating. I might be wrong, but please take my advice. Now fuck off!
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So WTF Bruno..
Did they pay or coerse you (and Smoothie) into shutting the fuck up ?
Or have you been one of them this entire time ?
I formally request that anybody who has paid me to post or not post on this forum please come forward and provide proof of said payola whereupon I will exit cryptocurrency forever. You could have saved me two pages of reading had you said "I have never been coerced", instead. lol Honestly though.. what else am I supposed to think when you guys just ditch after vouching for 2 of the least credible users (Speotnoob & Horus) on this forum ? Btw.. what do you think about Leroy/BigJohnson's google hangout invite ? Maybe you should come with.. j:P |
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Do your research before you go spewing what little vocabulary your low IQ can muster. (In the process you will eventually realize that you are not the first newb to react in the very same inbred maggot like way. ) It has been widely known for some time now that your hero(s) are nothing but scammers, liars.. pure scum. If this isn't enough.. good luck on your voyage of the crypto damned. Do your research before you go spewing what little vocabulary your low IQ can muster. (In the process you will eventually realize that you are not the first newb to react in the very same inbred maggot like way. ) First, you made the presumption that I am a Newbie. Yet you are aware that people could have more than one username on this site and elsewhere. Jumping to conclusions like that is indicative of a poor standard of reasoning and understanding. I make that observation since you purport, or pretend to be an investigative journalist/video maker. Let's continue. You said: "Do your research ... In the process you will eventually realize that you are not the first newb to react in the very same inbred maggot like way. "Well, I did do some research before I posted and did find the others (who you refer to as newbies) who did react in a similar way to myself. I even gave the reference to you on a plate. Again, not very convincing of any ability of yours to be able to comprehend English Language. Not doing very well so far are you? And that was your first sentence. At least technically it was, despite your poor grammar (misuse of the full stop etc.). When you semiotically analyse your choice of words, together with your attached smiley at the end, it conveys several things, one of which could be that you are getting pleasure out of the attention someone is giving you. The words: 'inbred' and 'maggot' do seem to pop up regularly in your vocabulary elsewhere. Perhaps they are on your mind because they are indicative of the something that might be affecting you personally, or have affected you personally in the past. Perhaps you are a pathetic, delusional, lonely person who tries to assume the mantle of the investigative reporters that you try to associate your name with. I wonder whether they would like to be associated with you. Somehow, I doubt it. OK. Let's get to the meat: You said: "It has been widely known for some time now that your hero(s) are nothing but scammers, liars.. pure scum.
If this isn't enough.. good luck on your voyage of the crypto damned."Woooh. No. That isn't enough. That's just a statement with no fact to back it up. If you are going to cast aspersions like that publicly, as any trained investigative reporter will tell you, you have to be prepared to back up those assertions with real evidence. Something you haven't done. Those are serious allegations. From behind that presumed cloak of anonymity of yours, it is cowardly of you to make those accusations without backing them up. The rest of your post is mainly copy and pasted and presumably was presented by yourself as 'the evidence'. I will selectively summarise it as follows: Horus has had several user names which he quite freely confirms. He has worked for Cryptsy. He gave all his HBN to charity and he gave a reference which can be checked. Then, "Tranz took over dev and has been great with the coin". Well, I think the vast majority of us can agree with that. So what's your point? Amongst the other revelations you presented as evidence was confirmation by Horus that he had worked in anti-terrorist financing and investigations (presumably in his employment capacity at Cryptsy). He also said that even one of the trolls ... "spoke good words towards my character. I have always tried to be fair with people and I am known in community for being helpful and honest with people." He further states that he is sorry to inform people there is no great Horus conspiracy and that he is saddened to disappoint. But what relevance is Horus to HoboNickels today, other than the being butt of a joke? So Hippie Tech, is this the standard of evidence you are presenting to show proof of some wrong-doing? I would suggest, on the face of it, that it shows the opposite of what you are trying to impute. He was open with you and quite prepared to talk to you about it. I wouldn't have been in the same circumstances. It is hard to communicate with a delusional, irrational idiot. You go on to mention the Cryptsy court case. Well, if you check my posts out you will find that on occasions I have been quite critical of Cryptsy. At one time, I even threatened them with court action. I had done many trades with them; some very quickly. Too quickly. I had once inadvertently activated a security 'lock my account' hyperlink. To reopen my account Cryptsy required me to submit all kinds of proof - which is understandable. It took time, which annoyed me, but eventually everything was sorted out to my satisfaction. Cryptsy's Paul Vernon is upfront and accountable. These are not the markers of a scamster. To persistently make vagaries of accusations on the flimsy tissue of nonsense you have put forward here shows piss poor investigatory powers, in my opinion. It is cowardly to anonymously hound people in such a way as you have done. Why don't you take your evidence to the authorities? Maybe you have, and have had it rejected for the rambling, nonsensical diatribe that it is. Continually plastering it on BitcoinTalk like you have had to do is a sign of weakness. Go to the authorities if you think that you have something. Finally, you might be aware that Bitcoin has been classified as a commodity in the United States. That means it can be traded on the stock exchange, just as it is on crypto coin exchanges. By logical extension, that classification as a commodity applies to altcoins as well. There are stringent laws against people trying to depress the price of traded commodities with what we call FUD - Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. Recently, there was a case here in the UK, where one person tried to influence prices on the Stock Exchange with FUD via Twitter. He was pounced on by the authorities and is now serving a prison sentence. You can be traced. You might want to take that into account before you post any further in this thread. Prison life can be pretty stringent. If it ever comes to it, I give you my word, I am prepared to back you up ... that you shouldn't be in a prison, ... but in an asylum. You trolled me.. called me a cunt. Then act as if you're the refined and intellectual one. lolz.. And yes.. I must be fucked in the head because I can't bring myself to help these assholes rip you guys off even though I'M THE ONE LIVING THE LIFE OF A FUCKING HOBO. You are a bagholding noob if : - you trust and believe these people who have been proven many times to be pathological lying sociopaths. - you trust and believe the negative rep left by these very same people and their shills /socks... And regardless of whoever Tranz is.. he is guilty by association and has profited greatly. |
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That muderFUDdin dev is AWOL. Name: v.coinz
Posts: 397
Activity: 364
Position: Sr. Member
Date Registered: March 17, 2014, 04:39:21 AM
Last Active: September 04, 2015, 06:04:26 AM
Today is a good day for a shitcon ponzi to DIE ! mooohahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAA DIE for what...? The dev or whale used to simply 51% the shitcoin... now they just walk away, then come back with more false promises hoping some noob kickstart their ponzi.. Wake up.. .NO ONE wants your worthless computer data. |
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Oh yes.. the X-shitalgo "asic resistant" coins... I can't wait until Bruno, Speotnoob, Crusty ect. decide not to bite into that one.. |
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Is there a conclusion we should make form that Cryptsy mess?
Everyone decided to change the subject and/or leave the room just as it seemed we were about to hit paydirt. Then again.. who knows as the layers of deciet seemingly have no end. |
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So WTF Bruno..
Did they pay or coerse you (and Smoothie) into shutting the fuck up ?
Or have you been one of them this entire time ?
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Please post the TXIDs and any other information you feel may be helpful.
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LMAO .. all of a sudden Crusty is one of us common folk.
Did you lose your "hurry up and give me my ADT, LTC ect" BitJohn hotline access number ? lol
Do you feel the slightest bit of compassion/remorse for all of those COL and ADT ect. bagholders you have helped to fuck over with your forks, V2s and "craptsy server, we need to stake your coins" issues ?
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Do you beg like Horus aka. jdtmp4 "the crypto hobo" (who btw this coin was themed after), because you are one of his socks ?
Hippie Tech. I've seen your negative FUD posts elsewhere, as well as here. What a stupid cunt you are!!! Anyone looking at your trust rating here might ask why you bother, you worthless waste of space https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=31553 You can't even communicate in plain English. Are you trying to say that Tranz is Horus, is "the crypto hobo"? If you are, so fucking what! Are you saying that HoboNickels is backed by Cryptsy's knowledge and expertise? If you are, then that will make me buy it all the more. Cryptsy isn't exactly my favourite of the month. Far from it. But c'mon. Explain yourself. You've intrigued me with your hidden, hysterical, history. Tell us all about Tranz, Horus and Cryptsy. Enlighten us. I suspect that you have nothing relevant to say. It's not enough to reference John Pilger in your arse-end. C'mon. Give us the benefit of your extensive knowledge, you horrible piece of shit. This was a dead issue until you fed the troll I don't preclude the possibility that he might have something to say. I very much doubt it though. I'd like to explore more. So c'mon Hippie Tech here's your chance to be taken seriously. Do your research before you go spewing what little vocabulary your low IQ can muster. (In the process you will eventually realize that you are not the first newb to react in the very same inbred maggot like way. ) It has been widely known for some time now that your hero(s) are nothing but scammers, liars.. pure scum. If this isn't enough.. good luck on your voyage of the crypto damned. re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action Hello ladies and gents,
Figured it was about time I replied to this thread here. I see a lot of sketchy dox work here and figured I could come in and set the record straight.
Last thing I want is you guys messaging or harassing innocent people who you think "may" have a connection to me.
First off, let me start by saying I have no idea who MikePark is on the thread here.
I see people trying to see who I am and what I have done. No matter what I say here, I feel the tinfoil hats are pretty much welded to people's heads, so I can say the 100% truth here and you still won't want to believe it.
I have never collected a paycheque from Cryptsy under any other name than Horus. I was the cryptohobo yes, and shakezula and blundertoe made HBN as a present for me back in the day. When I started at Cryptsy I gave them all away to a charity called "songs of love" feel free to google them. Tranz took over dev and has been great with the coin.
When Paul made the comment, he had no idea I was in fact Jdtmp4. I would also like to point out I have never done any wrong doing. The only reason my name is even here is because when I was hobo doing advertising, I told Hippietech I would pee on him to mark my territory. He is just fishing for things to put in their next amenstop video haha.
While I was a chat moderator under the name Jdtmp4, I was strictly volunteer. When I got into bitcoin, there was no real way to buy it here in Canada, only random forums and stuff. I created the hobo as a way to gather some of this cryptocurrency that fascinated me. I went site to site looking for jobs or tips to get into crypto.
The reason I created Horus, was not because I didnt want people to know I was Jd, which I have stated multiple time in public -- I created the pseudonym because I worked in anti-terrorist financing and investigations.
Even one of the trolls who initiated this stuff spoke good words towards my character. I have always tried to be fair with people and I am known in community for being helpful and honest with people.
I will also point out that I have never owned a delorean, or a blues bothers car, never worked at rockstar games or lived in mississauga either. The house you guys found is where I rented a room while I went to college. I went back to Orillia for the annual Scottish festival they have to eat some haggis and irn bru.
I'm sorry to inform people there is no great " Horus conspiracy" and I am saddened to disappoint.
For those who think I am pr9me, I am not. Him and I were volunteers at the same time, and he hosted my cryptohobo prediction site on majesti.co. I havent actually spoken to him since he left Cryptsy, which was about 2 years ago. the bitcointalk account cryptohobo is also not me. I had a lot of people imitate me when I was hobo, mostly trolls on mcxnow.
I am not a share holder in Cryptsy, I work paycheque to paycheque. If you have any questions about investigations or AML/KYC regulations Im your guy to talk to, anything else about the site, I have no idea, it isn't the department I work in.
If you have questions, I am more than happy to answer what I can, just remember I am not an executive at the site so I won't know answers pertaining to stuff like that. I go on sites like blab to try to keep customers informed of what is going on - same reason I am putting out a weekly newsletter starting this week for customers. I feel communication has lacked in the past and want to step that game up.
Anyways, I hope this has cleared a bit of stuff up. Even though this is the truth, you guys probably still won't want to believe it.
Take care and have a great afternoon.
Horus
Timeline: Horus I is no longer with Cryptsy. Horus II is the new Horus I. Horus II is no longer working for Cryptsy. Horus I is back to fill the void left by Horus II. Meanwhile, As Sunspots Fade, Will Crop Yields Fall? Film at 11. The more these maggots talk.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathological_lyingFebruary 1, 2014 jdtmp4 admits to being a Cryptsy admin .. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310335.msg4878420#msg4878420On May 22, 2014 Our douchebag stone cutting cryptsy admin, inadvertantly admits to frauding people out of thousands, (by impersonating a homeless person) via the Poloniex chatbox   Three and a half months later, both Horus and Paul blanked out on jdtmp4's hiring as an admin and his scam fundraiser. September 8, 2014 via the Cryptsy chatbox  Hey there shitcoin pusher man... HAHAHA .. Charade you are ! Pink Floyd - Pigs (Three different Ones) https://youtu.be/gOqblSqx_VI |
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That muderFUDdin dev is AWOL. Name: v.coinz
Posts: 397
Activity: 364
Position: Sr. Member
Date Registered: March 17, 2014, 04:39:21 AM
Last Active: September 04, 2015, 06:04:26 AM
Today is a good day for a shitcon ponzi to DIE ! mooohahahahahahHAHAHAHAHAA |
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@HippieTechI posted this topic specifically for you pretty much.. Crestington Legit or Not ? (PM's inside)I don't think "crusty" liked me posting ALL of his pm's he ever sent me but i was giving them to you mainly HippieTech. And knowing that would be a far more appropriate place than the Cryptsy topic here. Feel free to tear him a new ass on that topic all you want Fantastic, I'm sure it will be a great asset to the Libel and Cyberstalking case I am compiling. I don't even have to go out of my jurisdiction if I decide to take you to court. Dude chill out man.. are you going HippieTech on me ? I posted some PM's and tried to get this guy to shut up about you. One good way to do that was to create new topic and show everyone the PM's you sent me. No. 1 that would draw him over to the other topic. No. 2 low his complaining. No. 3 That would possibly vindicate you from HippieTech's obsession against you. I told you also in part i was having doubts whether you are some other guys around Crypto we all. Based mainly on stuff HippieTech has been posting about you lots. Go check out the rep forum topic on Crestington. You can see i was not trying to put your down or insult you. If you feel like i stabbed you in the back or anything Crestington you really do have my sincere apologies man. I shit you not i mainly wanted to give everything i know about you to HippieTech etc so maybe the lynch mob on you would stop with it all. Libel and Cyberstalking ? Where the hell are you getting that from ? Cresty come on #Cryptsy on Freenode IRC and talk with me / us. I will try and be there frequently. Crestington you have always been a super nice guy and fun to talk to & i have nothing bad to say about you. I am sorry if you feel i have done you wrong. But do remember that HippieTech started posting a lot negative stuff about you on -THIS- topic before. So i was trying to get it moved over to a new topic, instead of here Sorry man, I'm just tired of all the harassing that goes on around here, not just to me, I see some very nasty and racist remarks being directed at you as well. I just don't appreciate being libeled as some kind of monster when I have tried to help people where I can. I haven't even really been following the service discussion for some weeks now but I think you guys may be correct in Cryptsy being insolvent. I have friends with withdrawals being stuck for more than a week and only today I went through the service discussion and there are far more reports of problems and missing Coins than needs to be. I'll help you guys with whatever you need but I haven't been involved in illegitimate operations at the expense of others. My Skype logs only go back as far as the end of April 2014 and even from what I remember (or old Skype logs I have logged), I could not see anything considered fraudulent. If Cryptsy is insolvent, it would likely be due to something internal they are not sharing. Yes poor you.. poor "i cant wait to make a new account and start another crypto ponzi", YOU. I have not slandered you.. and even if anyone has, it would never make it to court because you have never properly identified yourself. You talk n talk.. As the pm stated I have started necessary steps in pursuing the matter. I have also been advised not to respond other than stating the intentions that I plan to pursue this.
Regards
Defamation? It ain't defamation when its true. You will lose your case anyway because: a) You do not have a legal business b) You don't pay taxes on what you earn here c) Hippie Tech's criticism is warranted and fair. You refused to refund him for a service you didn't deliver upon, and he followed forum protocol by opening an accusation against you. d) You have no terms of service. e) Neither of you signed a contract. f) You delivered a non working executable. g) You attempted to extort him into letting you premine his coin. a. I do have a legal business. b. I pay taxes. c. He requested the amount was up to me. By opening this thread he has tried to defame me and my business. d. Has nothing to do with defamation. e. Dont need to. f. I delivered the exe. g. Extortion " to secure (money, favours, etc) by intimidation, violence, or the misuse of influence or authority". if it up to me how much to return, there is no merit for extortion. Business is business and I pay my taxes just so I can protect the business. |
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