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541  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: January 15, 2016, 08:06:01 AM

I like it!

Every morning when I check the price is a bit lower! Might be the good moment to buy, not sure it will be able to break the 400 floor no?
542  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2016, 09:38:52 PM
why do i get the feeling halving is priced in and now btc looking shakey due to all these alt btc versions , fud is creeping in...in a few months the btc we all know and love will be changed, we wont be following nakamotos version.
 will it be the new devs vision and they will compete with other btc devs until one of the has the majority?

Ignored for good. Go FUD your mother

I'm not saying everything he says is right (I don't understand everything) but I like the part about the halving is already priced! After all it's something everyone expect so maybe is already priced.
But that doesn't mean price will crash and btc is ended xD

Maybe the price won't rise much more until the halving, even lower a bit after the halving because everyone will dump.

Well I don't know much and it will only go like this if the price is high enough for miners to make profit after the halving of course!
543  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2016, 08:16:19 PM
I am predicting a drop to 350 ish fairly soon... then moon within the next 6 months.

I don't see it going to $350 under any circumstance.  If the rally is over, which it might be for a while according to macro wedge breaking trend, then it would find strong support around $410 still.  If there's a dump, that's where it will go.  If a second dump occurred days/a week later after that, it would find big resistance again at 390's.  Worst case scenario would be $360, but would probably require a long time to get there, and by the time it did, would be time to go up again for getting closer to halving.

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I think that is a very decent assessment, rOach, regarding the current status of Bitcoin's price dynamics.

Bitcoin's general price direction remains upwards (and possibly slightly plateauing), and we are going to need to witness a considerable amount of concerted dumping in order to attempt to achieve any kinds of lower price points as you hit upon ($410, $390 and $360, each of those lower price points successfully more difficult to achieve in the current trend), and bears may not be willing to push for such lower prices on their own, and they have to somehow convince others to go along with them... which the others will notice that the price remains generally upward... if not flat for a while in this $425 to $435 price range with ongoing upward price pressures.



350 seems really hard to reach indeed. And I'd bet that if price ever reached 350$ in those conditions it would crash even further because most people would loose trust in btc. But I don't see how it could drop so low, thousands of people are frustrated enough to have missed the opportunity to buy at 300, they will take any opportunity around 400 so it won't breack this floor.

I believe it's the first time we agree on something JayJuanGee  Grin
544  Economy / Digital goods / Re: #Cheap hero account!#Several Bitcointalk.org account ! ! on: January 14, 2016, 12:49:33 PM
How much for a potential hero or sr member account?

And for the cheap full hero account?
545  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: January 14, 2016, 12:04:22 PM

Yeah seems like blocks are full only from time to time, it's not a global phenomenon. So we won't see a problem in transaction yet!
546  Local / Produits et services / Re: ATTENTION au Jeux en ligne on: January 14, 2016, 10:53:54 AM
Toi t'as jamais entendu parler de la méthode probably fair non?

Les deux clés? Don't une que tu génères toi et l'autre qui est secrète? La combinaison des deux te permettant de vérifier en temps réel?

Et ta théorie n'a aucun fondement. Tu peux prouver tes dires?
547  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did anyone buy during $1200? on: January 14, 2016, 10:27:01 AM
I only bought at 250 and 600 a year ago. Most of them went into miners which i already sold for quite a nice price.

Buying at 1200 would have been foolish, every person who did this has lost over 50% of it's money.

You're saying that but what's the difference between someone buying at 1200 and the people buying at 450 few days ago? In both cases there was a huge rise without anything to back it and if the price seems stable it could have dropped a lot! And it may drop to 300$ in just a few hours, you can't know with btc...
548  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2016, 10:12:05 AM
Thanks for the explanation on the fullness of the block Smiley

So those few hours with totally full blocks are the sign of the beginning of the end of btc?  Grin

Well I suppose it will be fixed in a way or another.

No, the periods of totally full blocks show that we are hitting the ceiling of the transaction capacity. It's not the beginning of the end of Bitcoin (yet).

It will be fixed. Either by raising the transaction capacity of the network. Or the service becomes too expensive for a part of the users, and the growth of Bitcoin will come to a halt at a quarter of a million transactions per day. And that (given a current user base of only about 1 million) may be the beginning of the end of Bitcoin if the current users (like me, who are expecting growth) lose confidence and start selling their stashes.

Note, the latter situation can develop quite quickly, since the price of Bitcoin is almost entirely based on speculation about its future. Once the hoodlers lose their faith in Bitcoin's future, the price will collapse.

Aw yeaa the fud is fresh and ripe

Is it FUD attempt to have doubt? It would be to yell everywhere "sell sell now it's too dangerous" but just saying that it's a complicated situation where one's faith could be damaged is not FUD...
549  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 14, 2016, 09:50:22 AM
Thanks for the explanation on the fullness of the block Smiley

So those few hours with totally full blocks are the sign of the beginning of the end of btc?  Grin

Well I suppose it will be fixed in a way or another.

No, the periods of totally full blocks show that we are hitting the ceiling of the transaction capacity. It's not the beginning of the end of Bitcoin (yet).

It will be fixed. Either by raising the transaction capacity of the network. Or the service becomes too expensive for a part of the users, and the growth of Bitcoin will come to a halt at a quarter of a million transactions per day. And that (given a current user base of only about 1 million) may be the beginning of the end of Bitcoin if the current users (like me, who are expecting growth) lose confidence and start selling their stashes.

Note, the latter situation can develop quite quickly, since the price of Bitcoin is almost entirely based on speculation about its future. Once the hoodlers lose their faith in Bitcoin's future, the price will collapse.

That's right, it's more or less a question of faith when it comes to bitcoin...

I lost mine years ago but it doesn't mean others will too  Wink
550  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 14, 2016, 09:18:16 AM
You may find this of interest.  Keep in mind these sorts of articles are often highly speculative, but still worth reviewing.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/01/13/scientists-say-humans-have-basically-canceled-the-next-ice-age/?postshare=1791452710414197&tid=ss_tw

Here is the actual article print.

http://www.nature.com/articles/nature16494.epdf?referrer_access_token=ozTSCaB0lyelSRTWwlncYdRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0Nnp0x6oazde2YSWXfqxcE5e6t9gAzUt9lu7e6WSDVZ241X9dPiozKLtf3BYyMTSqIHQIgVAurDgIdbRA7DmktIOpRHyFw09GYfR3yKJ6MCwABfUX2uwcCfY_fuK06xxr7LDw8Cfd0Ph0fpiEcbMARGndvz8-zXJBxCz5DqNEzxo_181kx8kcm09fYlhVb-7Vslemt4GmHzyIuZ8RuZMXEpgCqWD3heyVL9EBCY_YKp8gOi6fjjh1vNtDa0IydvGy5Bm1Eq7Bf9FF9MJjZuQn4Wav42oWIzykJrX0Jj5HRXJg%3D%3D&tracking_referrer=www.washingtonpost.com

Using this data set and general direction of thinking, the contemporary version of Pascal's Wager you mentioned may be turned inside out:

Regarding use of political force and taxing authority to penalize carbon emissions, can you be reasonably sure that the effect of these measures will not provoke or accelerate the next ice age? 

Interesting articles. I like the idea of humanity being able to control the global climate of Earth  Grin

But as you said in a previous post, most of the problem is to make whole humanity advance in the same direction. This would need an international government, the discussion between countries can't lead to anything.

I still think it's better to try something than just sitting here saying "meh, we can't know, it won't work"

And about what you said about politics robbing people and missusing money: it's not a proof of anything. Politicians rob the people all the time for everything, you can't say that because they don't do things well things shouldn't be done. If you take that into account then let me be straight: we shouldn't do anything. Any law voted at the moment was made by and for the rich. Banks lead the world and the three richest families decide of everything.

But if you want to actually discuss you got to ignore those facts, otherwise you can't conclude anything else but "we should take them, hang them, then think again about what we can do"  Grin
551  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2016, 04:49:32 PM

Your "nazi" slur becomes increasingly laughable as higher percentages (42!!!!) 27% of French citizens vote for FN.


Marion is an ass-kicker boot-licker like her grandfather and aunt; your clichéd Spartacist Undergraduate League rhetoric only makes her stronger.

fixed that for you, quisling.

27% translates to how many regional councils?  0.  Null . Zero. Nada.




yeah. democracy.

True one. As much as I hate FN, it doesn't change the fact that if a party is supported by 27% of the population, they should be represented in a proportionnal way. If people are dumb enough to vote FN, let them burn themselves!
552  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 13, 2016, 03:53:58 PM

Joule count of human fuel was not the question I was talking about, it was merely a philosophical question I'm not claiming anything.

What I am asking is: do you really believe that humans have no global impact on environment?

It's an easy Yes or No question man  Smiley
  Sure, I will answer your rigged question.

The answer is of course humans have an impact on the earth, and the subset of the earth known as the environment.  We have an effect on the entire universe at least for a hundred light year radius.  Just think, we've polluted that sphere with traces of our radio waves.

Your question is rigged by way of the Zero.  If we had 1.7 10^-15C effect on temperature, then the answer would be YES.  Therefore, for a universe with one cockroach, that cockroach would have an effect on the universe, measurable out to a light cone whose distance is proportional to it's age.   

What you really want to address, I would think, is something like "a significant impact" or "a statistically significant impact."

These are really the practical questions. 

It was not meant to be rigged, not everything is a hidden attack  Wink

Of course the idea was "significant"! But you're misled in my attempt. What I wanted to show is not that human have a significant impact.

Only two solution:
-we have a significant impact. Then it's important to control this impact and to be aware of it. Thus your position is a bit weird as you promote the inaction or at least the non coordinated action.
-We don't have a significant impact, then why not letting us trying to control it? It won't hurt anyone to try to be ecolo friendly even is it might be a bit useless no?

It's a bit like the Pascal bet, but with much less flaws  Cheesy
553  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: January 13, 2016, 03:17:19 PM

You ask question but don't answer the questions you're asked. What is your point then? Humans can't really have an impact on environment? That's what you're trying to say? It's all too big for us and we should let thing go on their own?  Wink
RE whether joule count of human fuel use affects climate, even rabid Warmers don't claim this.  Check the IPCC reports for example.

Humans obviously have regional impacts on environment.

Feeling good by way of giving taxes to your government has nothing to do with the Earth's temperature series.  Nothing.  This has been calculated time after time.

If you deny that, then who is the denier?

Joule count of human fuel was not the question I was talking about, it was merely a philosophical question I'm not claiming anything.

What I am asking is: do you really believe that humans have no global impact on environment?

It's an easy Yes or No question man  Smiley
554  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2016, 03:15:08 PM
This one, chartbuddy will most likely get updated to show those blocks if Bitcoin Classic starts getting anywhere. Chartbuddy already shows how full the blocks are, and showing the percentage of Bitcoin Classic blocks isn't much different.

Hmm. Good idea.

Why giving the info of how much blocks are filled? I don't really understand the impact and the point of such information? And I absolutely don't see the link with bitcoin trading though it's probably because of my ignorance  Smiley
555  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2016, 01:57:30 PM
And you're saying Marechal Le Pen is like a “guru or a mystic”? Waouh! I really want to vote for her now, let's all vote for the great guru Marechal!  Roll Eyes

I see no difference between those people and the godwin point or Donald Trump for example, they're quite similar in fact.

Such awful reading comprehension.  Le sigh.   Roll Eyes

*I* didn't say MMLP is like “guru or a mystic.”  Although I did slip in a Joan d'Arc allusion earlier (just to tweak you Trotskyites, lel).

The phrase was (as may be confirmed by placing your mouse cursor over the graciously provided link and clicking) reported by the The Guardian.

That Manchester newspaper, which is functionally if not yet officially Labour's house organ, hates FN with the fury of a million supernovae.

Please, continue to slander the increasingly large percentage of France's voting populace that resists your cultural Marxism.  The more you misuse Socialist Worker bullet words, the less effective they become.

That's why the howls of mainstream media protest have not, and will not, stop the FN steamroller.  MMLP's good looks (plus the unrelenting migrant invasion and concomitant violence) don't hurt either....  Grin

Such awful writing common sense. Le sigh Roll Eyes

*You* didn't say it but YOU quoted it without putting it in any other context. Which means that you take the "guru" assertion for yourself. If I quote Franklin saying "Those who give up their liberty for more security neither deserve liberty nor security" without adding anything, it means that I take what he said as an assertion I approve.

And I see that you fire a lot on Marx or socialism (though you can actually be neither marxist nor fascist you know, it's not FN or Communism, some people actually think in the middle) but you take caution to not answer anything else on the fascist part or the fact that the Le Pen are rather similar to dictators in their party or the fact that they use a brand (FN) for the political party, which allows them to earn a freaking amount of money.

But I suppose spitting on socialism and immigrants is always easier than seeing what banks and capitalism do to you and our country every day =)

by the way "Ce n'est pas parce qu'ils sont nombreux à avoir tort qu'ils ont raison" Coluche.
556  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2016, 01:31:42 PM
[...]
Don't you read the news?  It appears you do not.

Poor thing.  Here, I'll help.
[...]

Such deadpan self-importance...


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? What is that???

That's freaking cool xD

Though I feel a bit insulted, it's just too funny  Grin
557  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: January 13, 2016, 01:13:07 PM
My advise would be to stay our of those markets unless that is your market.  Obviously, you do not know much about them, so I am assuming that is not your market.  Those places give BTC a bad name and do not help with the advancement of BTC.  Again, this is only my opinion.  I personally do not support those markets in any way.

I wouldnt be so judgy, most of bitcoins value is BECAUSE of those darkmarkets, and the demand they create, not regardless....

In the old days, the bitcoin was valuable due to the dark markets. But it is totally different now. It has more legitimate use.

So you say. But I'm not so sure about it. Maybe btc is secretly really backed by its use in blackmarket. It would explain the volatility that is truly inherent to the bitcoin!
558  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2016, 01:10:17 PM

Your "nazi" slur becomes increasingly laughable as higher percentages (42!!!!) of French citizens vote for FN.

Go Godwin somewhere else!  Crypto-Marxist PC Police have no power here, nor in Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur    Grin

Lifted by superstar Marion Maréchal-Le Pen's "legions of admirers," FN enjoyed unprecedented success.

The migrant invasion+terror didn't hurt either, which is why you tranzis now only call her a fascist/nazi, having quickly dropped the hitherto traditional 'xenophobe' slander.  Don't think I failed to notice or will forget that expedient shift in advocacy.   Wink

Don't you read the news?  It appears you do not.

Poor thing.  Here, I'll help.




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“I see her in restaurants around parliament and she’s surrounded by a team of young advisors who treat her as if she’s a kind of Joan of Arc figure, the chosen one.” He said there was a fascination with Maréchal-Le Pen as if she was a “guru or a mystic”.

Like her bolder aunt Marine, the timid Maréchal-Le Pen complained that she suffered greatly from taunts at school that her grandad was a “fascist”. To shield her, she was moved to a hardline Catholic convent school to be given time to toughen up and later dropped the Le Pen from her name. But she joined the party aged 17 and had proudly restored her full name when, aged 22, and still a law student, she became the youngest MP since the French revolution, on a ticket against immigration and insecurity in the south.

Marion is an ass-kicker like her grandfather and aunt; your clichéd Spartacist Undergraduate League rhetoric only makes her stronger.

So you're trying to convince me that because 42% of French vote fn (which is not the case, 42% French who voted voted fn, but with 50% of abstention it really puts the thing in perspective) that it's not a freaking facist group? So that's how you define facism? When enough people want it it's no longer facism?

Well sorry but when a political party is led only by one of the richest French family (FN is a brand you know? It belongs to the Le Pen and they earn money every time it's printed somewhere, they take the money from the political party but that doesn't make people think twice about giving their money) where you get kicked out if you ever question the leader, I call that a fascist party. It's the very definition of fascism in fact, nothing to do with racism which is something else though as stupid as fascism.

And you're saying Marechal Le Pen is like a “guru or a mystic”? Waouh! I really want to vote for her now, let's all vote for the great guru Marechal!  Roll Eyes

I see no difference between those people and the godwin point or Donald Trump for example, they're quite similar in fact.
559  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2016, 11:41:11 AM
it's the chicken game of Bitcoin.

It's Chicken Little running around squawking about the sky falling

Speaking of chicken, what happened to your National Front logo?

The election is over.  Don't you read the news?   Roll Eyes

Yes, thanks for removing it! We get enough of this nazi show during the elections, no need to impose it on a daily basis  Smiley
560  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bantam [BNT] The world's first Crypto Collateral System | BTC Loans on: January 13, 2016, 10:18:27 AM
I don't really get why do we need a collateral currency to be able to loan.

We don't. That's a whole stupid scheme. It's a nonsense and non reliable way of doing things. Those people are going to get scammed at a moment or another for sure...
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