I do not believe it is a liar a word until it is returned to our previous deposits! All day he went to fiction stories with a bad developer? I think this guy is not more than 12 years, he thinks we're suckers, though he ran all been stupid when-with only 8 Bitcoin, back to finish off the suckers Man enough to fool us - you have "Backup Balance: 300.00001 BTC" that you guarantee that will be used for reparation !!! so please use them at last!Ohh iam 12 years and you lose 2 btc to me? no my friend, you are on the first on my queue i will refund. dont worry. I dont will touch on my 300 btc now, at last moment i will use it, not now. i get them when btc worth $600 and more. but sure i will refund your btc and hope you will get there talk about it. thanks PONZI FAST REFUND MY BTC IM SO TIRED WAIT YOU ! It is a ponzi scheme , why should he repay you? I think you didn't know how a ponzi works : "A Ponzi scheme is an investment fraud that involves the payment of purported returns to existing investors from funds contributed by new investors. Ponzi scheme organizers often solicit new investors by promising to invest funds in opportunities claimed to generate high returns with little or no risk. In many Ponzi schemes, the fraudsters focus on attracting new money to make promised payments to earlier-stage investors to create the false appearance that investors are profiting from a legitimate business."The refund is not implicated.
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Obviously I voted no , the bitcoin price is not correlated with the trade of hard drugs. Maybe at the beginning yes , but now with a lot of merchants started to accept it , and especially a lot of people started to use it directly for buying products... ~ at the moment the price is only a question of speculation (in my personal opinion) and I hope to see it stabilized in the next 5-10 years.
What concerns me is the 2 votes for fish dance... Aahhaha ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) , I don't know who voted for that option ... and why ?
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Obviously I voted no , the bitcoin price is not correlated with the trade of hard drugs. Maybe at the beginning yes , but now with a lot of merchants started to accept it , and especially a lot of people started to use it directly for buying products "the things are changed". ~ at the moment the price is only a question of speculation (in my personal opinion) and I hope to see it stabilized in the next 5-10 years.
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.. so can i enroll again, redsnow?
For the moment no , or at least until I will have received more funds.
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unfortunately you was delete me ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) this my false ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) You made 20 posts only today , I've made the list yesterday. The next time you should post not all in one time , but each day 1-2 ( or whatever # post you want). Have a great day, redsn0w
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I think the max. value that bitcoin will reach this year (will be) $500, because this time there will not be the karpeles bot "willy". We already missed the "moon" of a thousand dollars per bitcoin , but maybe between 5-6 years we will see again 700-800 dollar.
I'm still holding ...
Unfortunately that's not how thinly traded markets operate. They are psychologically driven. You are right we may only get to $500, but if it happens, it will be extremely fast due to fear of missing out. Yes of course , maybe the $ 1k will be possible after the next block reward halving ... but not in this year.
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I voted for $ 300 - 500 , and I think it is a great target.... maybe the 1'000 dollars after the next block reward halving.
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enroll personal msg btc addy 1Gbiv7bC37xnQrdvbZzPFTHCzmqkfKGJnz current post 94 thanks redsnow
am i enrolled or not? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) hello redsnow please answer it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) im not on the spreadsheet yet Yes , you're accepted. Sorry for the delay , but I forgot to add you in the list. hello redsnow when im join it my current post at 94 but on spreadsheet you write my current post 114 please update it thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Check the second list : Signature campaign - 11th to Jan - 17 th JanuaryI will make the payment within the next 10-15 minutes (removed a few inactive users).
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E i BTC che fanno da "garanzia" esistono e sono movimentati? Il fondo e' quotato in fiat o btc? Ancora: se il fondo cambia le cose (lavora) potrebbe aumentare i btc posseduti o sono una costante? I BTC del fondo sono nel mercato? Si possono usare?
un etf è passivo non vengono movimentati ed ovviamente è denominato in fiat, altrimenti uno comprava btc diretti ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Faccio domande forse banali perche' non ho ben chiara la cosa, forse meglio aprire un 3d apposito che magari esite gia'? Potrebbe pertanto esserci un address da controllare per verificare che i BTC siano "fermi"? C'e' una moneta (alt) che si basa su versamenti ad address per il quale si presume non esista la chiave privata, ora non ricordo il nome ... se hai capito di cosa parlo, assomiglia ad ETF? Ho trovato questo address : https://blockchain.info/address/1CounterpartyXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXUWLpVrIntendi dire il Proof-of-Burn ?
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How many BTC did you lose?
Do you mean in the Gox's "crack" ? I personally didn't lost anything ...but there are a lor of users that weren't lucky.
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So I think you are an alt-account of conizer14 , or am I wrong? However left an accurate negative feedback (with all the reference). Have a great day, redsn0w you're not wrong, 100% accurate I think he is not a "genius" , at least change the website/domain. I'm very tired of those ponzi schemes , also if they call them "ponzi games" . The always go around a simple ponzi schemes: A invest 0.10 BTC >> B invest 0.10 BTC , then A will be paid with the B's bitcoin (example 0.15 BTC ). Now there is 0.05 btc in the system ---> C invest another 0.10 BTC >> B will be paid with the C's bitcoin (another 0.15 BTC ) ; and so forth....
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So I think you are an alt-account of conizer14 , or am I wrong? However left an accurate negative feedback (with all the reference). Have a great day, redsn0w
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the way it can fight off downward price pressure its simply astounding,
fiat is very weak and must be invested in housing, an asset class to
even exist in the first place
Yes of course , the bitcoin protocol is still alive and fully functional, maybe the "speculation" is dead. However without the speculation it will never reach that "value" or better price. I think when all the speculators go away, the price will be stabilized and finally we can start to use "simply" our bitcoin ( and the price will not matter anymore).
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Damnit, looks like I missed this one.
How likely is it that someone who invested in day 6 or 7 will see a profit? Not likely IMO. Games like this reward the early investors. If I'm not one of the people who invested in the first day or two then there's a high chance that I won't get paid. I'll just keep that in mind and wait for the next round to start.
Yes of course , if you invest only in the first day you will be safe. It is so that a ponzi works : " A Ponzi scheme is an investment fraud that involves the payment of purported returns to existing investors from funds contributed by new investors. Ponzi scheme organizers often solicit new investors by promising to invest funds in opportunities claimed to generate high returns with little or no risk. In many Ponzi schemes, the fraudsters focus on attracting new money to make promised payments to earlier-stage investors to create the false appearance that investors are profiting from a legitimate business." Source: http://www.sec.gov/answers/ponzi.htm
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Premetto che potrei usare termini impropri ... se mai correggimi pure ... Ma la famiglia che ha comprato ETF, per avere dei BTC nel proprio wallet cosa dovrà fare? Chiede al fondo che vengano convertiti o vende ETF e riceve BTC in cambio? O vende ETF per fiat e poi si compra btc se vuole?
la famiglia che comprato l'etf ha una quota parte dell'asset in btc dell'etf non li possiede materialmente, ma è come se li avesse... quindi ovviamente non li può usare, li detiene attraverso l'etf come investimento la devi vedere come un fondo di investimento che detiene btc e di cui tu compri quote, il cui valore è direttamente proporzionale al valore di mercato del btc A questo punto magari cambieranno idea e forse inizieranno a comprare veramente bitcoin ( e non ETF bitcoin). Che ne pensate?
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what's the new staff ?
Please banned both members
The scammers will never be banned , they only receive a negative feedback. The next time if you don't trust an user , use an escrow (and if you don't want , simple avoid to trade with him).
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Just made a transaction 2 days ago ,But I didn't pay the transaction fee, and the transaction is still not be confirmed till now.... ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Here is the txid: b378edacb9ccaa2d5e9789bd02ce8e1f351a9afe26bd5c6daf8a4b681d476a16 You have to wait , no one know when it will be confirmed. The next time use at least 0.0001 btc as fee, if you want to put zero as fee use greenAddress.it (but also the other part should use it). Yes , I do use , I made this one just for test. Anyway , greenAddress.it is cool , thank you for your information! I think it will return in unknown time. Why did you not paid the fee ? You should know that if you not paid the fee, the transaction will be not confirmIt will be confirmed but maybe after 24-48 hours, no one know when exactly it will be conf. I always include 0.0001 btc as fee ( only ~ 0.03 $) and I suggest all the people to do the same.
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