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5401  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: July 03, 2015, 05:46:28 PM
I lost some in altcoin trading today. Damn, I don't want to trade altcoins again. It's too hard to predict their moves.

Its true that altcoin is hard to predict but if you pick the right one you will sure get a lot of profit. Btw which altcoin did you trade? Is it a new altcoin or old? Because there are several altcoin like litcoin or dashcoin is nice to trade too and it is safer than new altcoin
5402  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 03, 2015, 05:36:35 PM
Investing is extremely risky, as the chance of loss is high and it may be a big loss. But there are also chances for high rewards. Relatively low risk investments are good options. Saving money is always a good option too, but I am not sure which one is better.

Nope if you know which one is a good for your investment with your capital, I guess everything must be plan before you make a move. One wrong move everything will be ruin. Both of them are good enough, if you dont know which one good better diversify it 50/50 or may be 60/40 its up to you whether you dare to risk or not
5403  Economy / Gambling / Re: ➫ ➬ ➫ ➬ LUCKYB.IT ★ +1.5M bets ★ +72k BTC wagered on: July 03, 2015, 03:42:15 PM
How is that possible? I guess this is not happy hour right? Why he can get 0.07 just from lotto? Never see it before

Unless you are unaware yet of it, it is the new feature of the chat-lotto which is now based on your wagered amount for 24 hours

Fearless Shrimp with 0.01+ BTC wagered amount
Big Fish with 0.1+ BTC wagered amount
Shark with 1+ BTC wagered amount
Whale with 10+ BTC wagered amount

The bonus from chat-lotto will always be random but with more wagered amount, you are getting higher potential bonus. Even if you wagered 10+ BTC in 24 hours , it will all be based on luck because either you will not be chosen by the chat-lotto or that you will only gain a small amount from it

P.S : Happy Hour gives substantially higher payout though and next one is after Facebook page get atleast 1k likes (kinda taking forever)

New feature: Payouts by the lotto bot are now scaling with the amount you wagered in the last 24h. Good luck!


Yes I just comeback to this thread again. So that means although we roll like 1btc, people will have chance to win that lotto? Btw if in 24 hours there is 2 times lotto that means I have a chance to get high payout lotto if Im lucky right? And other will have that chance to get what I wagered right?
5404  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: should i move my ''saving'' to Bitcoin? on: July 03, 2015, 02:43:17 PM
So you want one person making all the decisions for bitcoin and you want people diversifying and buying altcoins?  Might be the 2 worst ideas ever...

just the update alert, which is different from having consensus on a specific upgrade about bitcoin, still i'm a partially against the idea of diversificate your money in mnany altcoin, at best i could diversificate in one altcoin only additionally to bitcoin, and that's monero probably

Personally I wouldn't bother with alts. None of them show the promise that bitcoin does. As for putting savings into bitcoin I'd put an amount you can afford or more importantly are comfortable with. I think bitcoin will be a good investment longterm but its certainly not guranteed.

There are some altcoin that have a real high volume of trading like ltc and dashcoin, may be that will be nice if you trade them because of the higher volume people will tend to trade there and you will get good profit too from them. But dont hope from new altcoin, most of them will just waste your time except you can pick a good one to mine
5405  Economy / Gambling / Re: bustabit.com -- The Social Gambling Game (formerly moneypot.com) on: July 03, 2015, 02:23:39 PM
any 1 can tell me the list of command / where can I find it???

I only know '!med'  Roll Eyes

Usually I just use '!crash x.xx' to know how long x numbers is crash. This is a useful command that I know
5406  Economy / Gambling / Re: ➫ ➬ ➫ ➬ LUCKYB.IT ★ +1.5M bets ★ +72k BTC wagered on: July 03, 2015, 02:18:51 PM

Congratulation and good luck to jadra, he is a very big high roller, all the best for you mate Smiley
P.s nice tips, chat lotto is very funny                   
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How is that possible? I guess this is not happy hour right? Why he can get 0.07 just from lotto? Never see it before
5407  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC in your country on: July 03, 2015, 02:15:42 PM
well the thing isnt earning from this forum the thing is bitcoin situation on your country ,anyway brazil has some stores already accepting it i didnt know those but for now not a good shop ,just some companies

Ok Ok right now i understand sorry i think you all are talking about earning of bitcoin in your country but im wrong. You are talking about the position of bitcoin in your country. Is some stores accept bitcoin Right??

There are only plenty stores that accept bitcoin out there. People are still dont believe about how bitcoin will affect in the future. May be some couple years there will be much more stores that accept bitcoin so just be patient
5408  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: July 03, 2015, 02:08:44 PM
yes i earn some bitcoin today from playing a dice games
usually i'm always be lost when i gamble but maybe today is my lucky day i can win but only 0.01

Not only you but every one loose when they gamble, Because its a game of luck, today i also lost .01BTC on a satoshimine. I usually loose when i play on this site. Only once i won .03BTC from this site.

Gambling is a game of luck, sometime you win sometime you loose Tongue when we win the feeling is very good and when we lost we feel bad Tongue Faucet and gambling is way to earn bitcoin today.

Yes both of them are way to earn bitcoin but:
Faucets wasting time if you dont have any referall
Gambling is too risky to earn your bitcoin
So both of them are not really a good way to earn big cash of money. What I can suggest is doing trading and signature campaign. Both of them are best when it comes to payout


You are right  gambling is too risky but you win some bitcoins from gambling site. I suggest it is not for newbie, it is for Sr.Member and above because they know how to play. Isn't ?

If you ask me about gambling, sure I win a lot but in the end you will lose again, I just gambling for fun, not really earn from them because you can't win again house. You really need to bet higher win or loss get out or later you will regret it. Btw it doesnt matter which rank are you now, if you are really luck you will get profit. Although you are legendary doesnt mean you have great luck in gambling
5409  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: July 03, 2015, 12:22:48 PM
banks arent soo safe as it loooks if all custumers went into bank at same time to withdraw own money they will know that the money isnt anymore there.

Nope, banks actually is the safest investment between all because it has a lowest risk compare to other investment, but because of interest from bank is too low, people move to investment, although its riskier but the payout is good enough compare to bank
5410  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: July 03, 2015, 12:11:37 PM
Bitcoin, because gold is something that probably won't have much of a big change in value in the next 10 years. Bitcoin is the first cryptocurency, many say its the prototype for altcoins. But I think bitcoin's future stands and who knows what it will go through. I'd keep bitcoins instead of gold.

How cabn you be so sure? Yes everyone know that bitcoin price will rise for sure but for next 10 years do you think bitcoin will stable and rise more than gold? Gold will guaantee you about its price in the next 10 years and it is stable enough
5411  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: should i move my ''saving'' to Bitcoin? on: July 03, 2015, 12:07:05 PM
Every month I buy Bitcoin from %50 of my wage. I think it's the best saving method for long term. I don't do trade much, it's too risky for me.

Nope, trading is not risky as gambling or may be mining altcoin. I think trading is much fun to play it, because it has a lower risk than others and you can

get good  profit too from that so start on taking this as one of your income besides signature campaign or even faucet

The risk isn't lower, you're just lowering the possible gains and loses.
Say you have $1000 and the same in Bitcoin and you gamble with one and trade with the other. Playing in a casino may get you broke in a couple minutes, but you can also double the money if you're lucky. If you're a bad trader you'll need days or even weeks to go broke, but it will also take days, weeks or even months to double the investment.

Nope, lowering possible gains and loses in trading? I dont think that is a really good idea because there is no way that you will lose in bitcoin trading, it is fast or slow that you will get your profit so the risk will be minimalize from doing trading. Besides gambling is far to fast to drop your bitcoin, and I guess with today win you really need luck and do you think tomorrow you will have this kind of luck? In the end people will lose it in gambling because we never win the house, except you stop and wwithdraw it when you are winning some

In Bitcoin trading you think you aren't losing because the price is so volatile that it's almost guaranteed to go up or down after a small rise and a small dip, but that only works so far. Sooner or later you will fuck it up and lose a lot of money by not being in in a big rise or by being in during a big crash.

Of course that I aim for a high selling but care for big crash, thats why Im saying that bitcoin trading is much safer rather than anything out there because you can really control it no matter what. Lets say suddenly the price going up I will follow the trend and going to buy and before its is going to be dumped I take some precaution to change it back to my currency rather than losing it all so its safe

Beside inherent risks involving in trading, having your coins inside an exchange for day trading isn't really what I would call safe. As a daytrader, you need your coins ready in a exchange 24/7, because you could miss big opportunities if you don't (it takes time for the coins to go from your local wallet the exchange) which means if the exchange screws up and we've seen this happening before, you would potentially lose your coins. I hope that exchange that I consider serious like Poloniex and Cryptsy don't end up pulling a MtGox/Mintpal.

Yes my coin is ready to buy anytime except my sleep time. I wont risk any cent when Im not online. So when Im going to offline I never hold my bitcoin anymore, this is prevent price suddenly drop significantly, although sometimes it will rise suddenly. Some people said that better not earn some rather than price drop and it will make worse.



Nope, lowering possible gains and loses in trading? I dont think that is a really good idea because there is no way that you will lose in bitcoin trading, it is fast or slow that you will get your profit so the risk will be minimalize from doing trading. Besides gambling is far to fast to drop your bitcoin, and I guess with today win you really need luck and do you think tomorrow you will have this kind of luck? In the end people will lose it in gambling because we never win the house, except you stop and wwithdraw it when you are winning some

It's not a good idea but that's how trading looks compared to gambling. Even though you're investing it all you can't lose it all, while putting on your money on a casino table at once can leave you penniless in an instant. Gambling is risky but so is trading, who knows maybe tomorrow we'll wake up to Bitcoin being worth $200 and then what? Do you think people who bought at $1000 knew that the next day they'll see $800 and so on?

Nope trading is different from gambling, the gap is to far between them. Trading you can minimalize your loss but gambling is really far worse when you are in lucky. I experienced both of them and feel like trading is much better although the price suddenly drop or anything. Its true that people can't predict the future thats why I never hold bitcoin when it comes to my offline time. Im not risking my bitcoin value by hoping the price going up, how about if I hold up and later the price suddenly drop when Im off? I guess that is much worse, I will lose some of my bitcoin value
5412  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which is the best Investment Option for Bitcoins? on: July 03, 2015, 11:53:27 AM
I do not know what the best investment option for Bitcoin is. But i believe that maybe buying Bitcoins and holding them long term is good for an investment. But, that is only a good investment if Bitcoin will go up in the future, but no one knows if it will, so Bitcoin itself is a risky investment. But every investment has some amount of risk.

I guess with this unstable price you wont make bitcoin as a long term investment, this is just as short term investment to make. Not saying that you have really much of fund to invest in bitcoin so it another story then because that money of your wont even counting in your life  Grin. But for now it is still will be short term investment that many people are rely on it to get profit everyday
actually if you can manage to buy at a lower price, then it is a good "long" term investment. because in short there is probably not enough profit for you.
additionally the price can grow much more that what it is right now, and especially in the next year that the block halving is going to happen.

I guess you didnt understand the meaning of short term and long term investment. Let me tell you here, with you buying at the lower price, that means you applying on doing short term investment, because you repeat your trading process, otherwise long term investment means that you just bought bitcoin in every price and stack it high enough so later you will earn the profit through the higher price. I assume that you want to get profit but a big one in a one time trading right, that is include in short term investment
5413  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: July 03, 2015, 10:14:33 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=835437.0
Visit the above the site it is cool app. It is best way to growing your bitcoin.
Play Flappy bird Game Smiley

I think the OP asked how to grow bitcoin, instead of looking for bitcoin, probably business related to your bitcoin bitcoin can grow, such as buying and selling online or something

Yes that is one kind of method that you can to grow your bitcoin, although it seems like faucets to me because the payout is so little. But you still can earn it through playing games too. Doesnt mean that growing your bitcoin you must use your fund to do trading or gambling. You can also play games like he suggesting to grow your bitcoin too
5414  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to turn 2BTC into 4BTC on: July 03, 2015, 10:11:26 AM
To be honest, there is no safe and fast way turning 2 btc- 4 btc. Not on this forum at least. You have to put in the hard work like all of us either if you're in a good signature campaign like dadice, or if you're really good at trading and selling with btc. I'd say use those btc for stocks or a long term fund, that way you can make more profit. If you're looking for profit, don't look for it here. You can try gambling if you want, but it can cause you everything. Good luck on what you do.  Wink
gambling is a bad thing in my opinion, because you could lose all bitcoin you have, I would suggest trading altcoin reliable as doge or litecoin. be great if you make the effort in the real life

Trading altcoin is far more worse than gambling, some like ltc may be can close enough to bitcoin but litecoin would not replace bitcoin for sure, better trade with bitcoin, it is more safety than others kind of method to earn bitcoin
5415  Economy / Economics / Re: A currency or investment? on: July 03, 2015, 07:34:35 AM
Alright. I have seen so many threads asking people to vote what they take Bitcoin as. These include currency, investment, payment and tipping etc. Now, if you can only choose between currency and investment.. What do you take Bitcoin as?

I take Bitcoin as a form of currency and investment. However, currency come first. I have never invested my money into Bitcoin. I only invested my time into Bitcoin.

I went to exchange and try to sell them at high price. Upon receiving the money from selling, I try to buy them again at lower price. This way, I can 1.2x or 1.4x my Bitcoin. And I will spend them online. I will never exchange them into USD or whatsoever currency and than withdraw them - unless I'm forced to.

What about you? Currency or investment?

Many users start with choosing it as a currency and then eventually use it as an investment. For me too, it seems like an investment obviously because it is more promising and reliable. Bitcoin is a really good investment and provides a profitable future gain.

Nope, I think many of them start because its like 'free money' to them, they can earn without doing so much things at first but now bitcoin is really give them hope to change their life so they are start on changing this to investment. Bitcoin for short term yes it is good enough, but I dont think that bitcoin as long term investment is really good enough compare to others long term investments like gold or real estates

I disagree with you regarding the bitcoin as a long term investment. Yes, the risk quotient right now is high as compared to gold and real estate but I think that bitcoin will truly be beneficial if it is perceived as a long term investment rather than just a little free money. It is really developing as a currency at the moment, but considering ti as a back up investment, just buying 1 btc isn't that bad I guess

You wont even know about how will bitcoin go for the future. People here are saying that bitcoin is going to rise in some years may be 10-20 years but thats all is just speculation, although I know that bitcoin is a developing coin that will earn you a lot but without any support bitcoin wont be a good investment at all. Get one bitcoin is not enough if you are make this as your back up investment because it is too little for covering what you loss in the future with bitcoin price around $500

Bitcoin is constantly getting more support from a lot of fronts. A super long term investment of 20 years may make sense to own at least 1 BTC, but to be on the safe side, I would own at least 2 figures of BTC in my stack to be on a guaranteed success area.

How are you so sure? May be in your country it gets supported buy most country doesnt support on bitcoin because bitcoin will become threat to them thats why government are trying to press bitcoin as much as they can and make fiat as the only currency. If you want safe side you really need around 10 bitcoin or more and that will guarantee you will live on luxurious life. Only 2 bitcoin you really need to hope its price will rise more than $10,000
5416  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Did you earn some bitcoin today? on: July 03, 2015, 07:28:08 AM
yes i earn some bitcoin today from playing a dice games
usually i'm always be lost when i gamble but maybe today is my lucky day i can win but only 0.01

Not only you but every one loose when they gamble, Because its a game of luck, today i also lost .01BTC on a satoshimine. I usually loose when i play on this site. Only once i won .03BTC from this site.

Gambling is a game of luck, sometime you win sometime you loose Tongue when we win the feeling is very good and when we lost we feel bad Tongue Faucet and gambling is way to earn bitcoin today.

Yes both of them are way to earn bitcoin but:
Faucets wasting time if you dont have any referall
Gambling is too risky to earn your bitcoin
So both of them are not really a good way to earn big cash of money. What I can suggest is doing trading and signature campaign. Both of them are best when it comes to payout
5417  Economy / Economics / Re: A currency or investment? on: July 02, 2015, 04:42:08 PM
Alright. I have seen so many threads asking people to vote what they take Bitcoin as. These include currency, investment, payment and tipping etc. Now, if you can only choose between currency and investment.. What do you take Bitcoin as?

I take Bitcoin as a form of currency and investment. However, currency come first. I have never invested my money into Bitcoin. I only invested my time into Bitcoin.

I went to exchange and try to sell them at high price. Upon receiving the money from selling, I try to buy them again at lower price. This way, I can 1.2x or 1.4x my Bitcoin. And I will spend them online. I will never exchange them into USD or whatsoever currency and than withdraw them - unless I'm forced to.

What about you? Currency or investment?

Many users start with choosing it as a currency and then eventually use it as an investment. For me too, it seems like an investment obviously because it is more promising and reliable. Bitcoin is a really good investment and provides a profitable future gain.

Nope, I think many of them start because its like 'free money' to them, they can earn without doing so much things at first but now bitcoin is really give them hope to change their life so they are start on changing this to investment. Bitcoin for short term yes it is good enough, but I dont think that bitcoin as long term investment is really good enough compare to others long term investments like gold or real estates

I disagree with you regarding the bitcoin as a long term investment. Yes, the risk quotient right now is high as compared to gold and real estate but I think that bitcoin will truly be beneficial if it is perceived as a long term investment rather than just a little free money. It is really developing as a currency at the moment, but considering ti as a back up investment, just buying 1 btc isn't that bad I guess

You wont even know about how will bitcoin go for the future. People here are saying that bitcoin is going to rise in some years may be 10-20 years but thats all is just speculation, although I know that bitcoin is a developing coin that will earn you a lot but without any support bitcoin wont be a good investment at all. Get one bitcoin is not enough if you are make this as your back up investment because it is too little for covering what you loss in the future with bitcoin price around $500
5418  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: should i move my ''saving'' to Bitcoin? on: July 02, 2015, 04:36:12 PM
Every month I buy Bitcoin from %50 of my wage. I think it's the best saving method for long term. I don't do trade much, it's too risky for me.

Nope, trading is not risky as gambling or may be mining altcoin. I think trading is much fun to play it, because it has a lower risk than others and you can

get good  profit too from that so start on taking this as one of your income besides signature campaign or even faucet

The risk isn't lower, you're just lowering the possible gains and loses.
Say you have $1000 and the same in Bitcoin and you gamble with one and trade with the other. Playing in a casino may get you broke in a couple minutes, but you can also double the money if you're lucky. If you're a bad trader you'll need days or even weeks to go broke, but it will also take days, weeks or even months to double the investment.

Nope, lowering possible gains and loses in trading? I dont think that is a really good idea because there is no way that you will lose in bitcoin trading, it is fast or slow that you will get your profit so the risk will be minimalize from doing trading. Besides gambling is far to fast to drop your bitcoin, and I guess with today win you really need luck and do you think tomorrow you will have this kind of luck? In the end people will lose it in gambling because we never win the house, except you stop and wwithdraw it when you are winning some

In Bitcoin trading you think you aren't losing because the price is so volatile that it's almost guaranteed to go up or down after a small rise and a small dip, but that only works so far. Sooner or later you will fuck it up and lose a lot of money by not being in in a big rise or by being in during a big crash.

Of course that I aim for a high selling but care for big crash, thats why Im saying that bitcoin trading is much safer rather than anything out there because you can really control it no matter what. Lets say suddenly the price going up I will follow the trend and going to buy and before its is going to be dumped I take some precaution to change it back to my currency rather than losing it all so its safe
5419  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does martingale really works? on: July 02, 2015, 03:38:48 PM
For me martingale in luck based games would kill you in the long run but if you use martingale in sports there is a high chance that you will success

I dont think using martingale on sport betting besides dice is really useful though. Dice is faster on recover but I dont see any chance of recovering with sport betting. And it doesnt apply to you if there is really high chance on betting on sport. It is all depends on your luck too. Thats why they call it gambling

You have higher chance to recover the loss in sports coz you use your skill and you can see stats of the game and not like dices which only rely on luck

You really need luck too to pick a good one, sometimes higher odds also can win against low odds so its hard to make that guess plus if you make parlay it will double your loss too so its hard to recovering it
5420  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which is the best Investment Option for Bitcoins? on: July 02, 2015, 03:36:43 PM
I do not know what the best investment option for Bitcoin is. But i believe that maybe buying Bitcoins and holding them long term is good for an investment. But, that is only a good investment if Bitcoin will go up in the future, but no one knows if it will, so Bitcoin itself is a risky investment. But every investment has some amount of risk.

I guess with this unstable price you wont make bitcoin as a long term investment, this is just as short term investment to make. Not saying that you have really much of fund to invest in bitcoin so it another story then because that money of your wont even counting in your life  Grin. But for now it is still will be short term investment that many people are rely on it to get profit everyday
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