African scams = Corrupt Policemen and militia... i wouldnt bet my life on hiding in such country as a scammer. erm incase you didnt know ghana is in africa. there is no way alberto would hide there... so why did half our money end up there...?? cmon you can put 2 and 2 together.... I know its in Africa... i only wanted to mention that it sounds stupid to hide in unstable countries. I mean a angry investor only has to pay a bit to make him harm. I doubt he hides in africa. And i think the Samuel Noi there is random. Or was it created lately? Anyway... if the ip belongs to ghana (how was that found out) then he probably only used a proxy there. I mean he maybe thinks it the police is seeing ghana then they will stop investigating. |
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Why arent the payments sorted according to the timestamps correctly? Its extremely annoying to find a block of payments above another block of payments even though the timestamps say they happened the other way around. I wasted some time now to find out why the balances arent matching since i found that its matching... only the sort order isnt correct. Example: https://blockchain.info/de/address/115tTroRo3B9ZDQ6ATJGDCHcNEVbjJoZnFThe transaction cc24d5ed29d1810a81764e8dbda13dbe3255c57c3b71648f1e1196de2e9f535d is between other transactions that were done before and after that transaction. Though in fact it was the very first transaction. And the timestamp seems to show this already. Only the sorting is wrong. Can i change this somehow? Any other solution? |
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Wow... never have seen such a bad Trustrating... but i dont understand this post. Graet and ukyo didnt respond about what? They should pay something to TH or the other way around? |
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Sounds like they will stop expansion in December
I would like to be certain... he once claimed that the mine is everything they will build so there is a chance... though i only would jump back in if he explains that its true that he will grow the mine indefinitely. |
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When I was researching the market a few months back it seemed Graet is the main guy behind Weexchange, while Ukyo was running BitFunder. Now it seems the roles are a bit intertwined with Ukyo fixing the Weex server issues, but Graeme Tee may also have control over the wallet or systems. Anyone else know more?
Yes, I do know those 2 (out of 4) were mentionned by TF as a reason not to refund everyone 100%. Are they this big investor group that dropped out after Terrahash already had paid for much regarding miner creation leaving him with a big loss? |
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Information we obtained, We now have digital copies of the company's documents. We have the legal name and personal information of Ukyo and Graet (Graet is kinda known to begin with  ). Yet we don't know how to use such information to pursue the retrieval of our money. any suggestions? I will ask my source if I am allowed to post the info here. Can you explain how Graet is involved? Pardon my ignorance. When I was researching the market a few months back it seemed Graet is the main guy behind Weexchange, while Ukyo was running BitFunder. Now it seems the roles are a bit intertwined with Ukyo fixing the Weex server issues, but Graeme Tee may also have control over the wallet or systems. Anyone else know more? Also I have some money waiting to be transferred: Transaction ID fHpanuUZAS1Vo4mLKRgMZ4cFV8A6iNDm, Debit 0.12080818 BTC I dont know it but since ukyo claimed "it was decided" and implies at least 2 persons decided, that there are at least 2 persons responsible for weexchange. Why those 2 persons can get to the impression that it might be better to not communicate is beyong my understanding. They greatly underestimate circles of doom. This one here already reached speaking about lawsuits. If you look into the forum... bad things happen all the time. The one with no communication turn out bad, if not very bad for the boss. The others, that keep explaining and communicating move the things into far better waters with this. |
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I believe at 28nm you cant use photolithography anymore. It should be e-beam lithography then.
You are wrong. These days we use immersion litho and double patterning, but e-beam is not cost effective for anything except samples and making the masks themselves. Ah ok... the it was for the masks... at least thats part of taping out... |
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Though interpreting this... The cubes are nearly sold all... so the next divs might be a bit higher because of the sales income but then there is nothing moving until mid february? I mean january the 20th tapeout. Producing miners take probably 2 more weeks, probably 3. Then we are mid february. Sounds to me like no hope for the shareprice. It will go down and down the next months lower than ever.
I think you're being a little aggressive if you think it will be 2-3 weeks from tape-out to working miners. I wanted to go higher first but then i thought that friedcat most probably will know when the chips will be ready from the foundry so that he can order the timeframe at the assembler beforehand. No waiting for the place in queue. Of course the development of the miner has to be done beforehand too. Though i think about it... doesnt tapeout mean thats the first chip too? In that case the miner design has to be tested first because otherwise it would be a too high risk to produce the miners without doing that... which means it can easily take way longer then... What do you guys think when the divs from the cubes will come in? I wish friedcat would have said a word about the divs he keeps. Is he still keeping? No, tape-out means that they send the design to the foundry, who then start the process of turning raw silicon wafers into ASICs. They won't even have the wafers finished 3 weeks after tape-out, let alone have miners built. Hm... somehow i thought taping out means its done then... i really would like to hear what friedcat plans for the meantime... i mean he has a datacentre with immersion cooling for what? photolithography
I believe at 28nm you cant use photolithography anymore. It should be e-beam lithography then. |
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Though interpreting this... The cubes are nearly sold all... so the next divs might be a bit higher because of the sales income but then there is nothing moving until mid february? I mean january the 20th tapeout. Producing miners take probably 2 more weeks, probably 3. Then we are mid february. Sounds to me like no hope for the shareprice. It will go down and down the next months lower than ever.
I think you're being a little aggressive if you think it will be 2-3 weeks from tape-out to working miners. I wanted to go higher first but then i thought that friedcat most probably will know when the chips will be ready from the foundry so that he can order the timeframe at the assembler beforehand. No waiting for the place in queue. Of course the development of the miner has to be done beforehand too. Though i think about it... doesnt tapeout mean thats the first chip too? In that case the miner design has to be tested first because otherwise it would be a too high risk to produce the miners without doing that... which means it can easily take way longer then... What do you guys think when the divs from the cubes will come in? I wish friedcat would have said a word about the divs he keeps. Is he still keeping? |
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A friend of mine talked to someone from eASIC today and I have some information I would like to share with key people in this thread. Very disturbing actually.. more details tomorrow, not sure how much i want to share publically at this point until we make some necessary phone calls
So you wanted to start a Crumbs-Experiment? Im impressed how many jumped on this... and amused... |
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WOW 238700.2 GH/s thx
Dave, where are the dividends of yesterday and today?
Hashing at almost 300TH now  We have a bunch of blocks warming in the oven. As we grow we have to add bitcoind servers about every 50TH, so the first day of a large growth can sometimes not produce many new blocks. Plus there's variance as always. Jared is bringing up something like 6 or 8 bitcoind's to handle growth, so hopefully we don't bump up against this problem. Could you say a word about if you will grow the mine without endtime? If you say you will keep reinvesting and grow the hashpower i would go in again. If there is a end at some time i wouldnt. So whats the plan now? 300TH only as compensation because of the late time or will you grow constantly from now? |
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African scams = Corrupt Policemen and militia... i wouldnt bet my life on hiding in such country as a scammer. |
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Update
PR & Communications
We understand that transparency and communication to shareholders and the public needs improvement. We are in the process of identifying a dedicated employee for this. We will issue bi-weekly reports for shareholders and improve response time for questions.
Next Gen Chips
The projected time of taping out of Gen3 is January 20. Power consumption target estimation is <0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. Please notice that the timeline is of course subject to change/adjust, and the estimation on power and cost is also based on software tool/simulation results.
Current Hardware Sales
The number of cubes left for sale/deployment is 9000. About 1/3 are ordered already. All older devices (USBs/new blades) are sold out.
G.ASICMINER
If nothing unexpected happens, Ukyo will provide a shareholder list to Friedcat on Dec 1, for direct shares.
So my emailalert for friedcat posts went on and really... an update... Thanks! Though interpreting this... The cubes are nearly sold all... so the next divs might be a bit higher because of the sales income but then there is nothing moving until mid february? I mean january the 20th tapeout. Producing miners take probably 2 more weeks, probably 3. Then we are mid february. Sounds to me like no hope for the shareprice. It will go down and down the next months lower than ever. Can someone tell me im wrong? I dont remember of any plans in between. And the old gen1 tech soon wont be competeable anymore to be able to sell it with profit. Theres a limit to this. And the plans i heard spoke about gen2 chips which arent followed through anymore. So is there anything?
It was mentioned in the interview along with the fact that Friedcat plans to prepare for a network of up to 1000ph/s (currently only a few ph/s).
No, that was an initial mis-translation. The corrected translation said that he was about to have sold/deployed a total of 1000ph/s - he wasn't describing plans for the future. 1. 1000T would be released around Nov 7th. These chips may be sold or deployed, depending on the situation then. 2. 2nd Gen chips have already been developed long time ago. But they were delayed to deploy considering the unsatisfactory performance. 3. 3rd Gen chips were also under development during that period. It is already developed now but still under test. It is expected to become a mature product in Feb 2014, which means its key indicators would be much better than those of its competitors. It is estimated that the network hashing power would be 1000p then, while Friedcat would deliver several hundred of it. Original translation does confuse solo mining with total sales but still doesn't change the fact that FC is preparing to compete in a 1000 ph network. Were were 1000 PH mentioned? The only thing i remember from the interview was that friedcat will have 1000TH deployed on nove 7th. But that only meant that he had sold this amount of hashpower from the start of asicminer till then. |
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So after 3 days i got an email with a statement that one of my chosen products was ordered. I hope they didnt forget the second product.
So i would say if you need something fast you have to consider... i dont know how many days it will take max to get it ordered by them.
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[19:34] <@Ukto> it was decided to stop handing out small bits of information causing misinformation
Thats one stupid decision... lets not communicate because something could be misunderstood. I believe the persons that decided this underestimate the effects of circles of doom massively. Didnt they notice that we are are at lawsuits being spoken about already? Anyone thinking with noncommunicating something will be better is delusional in my eyes. You only need to check different projects in the forum. The one that went bad and communicated went way way better than those that stopped communicating. I hate this tendency in bitcoin community to stop communicating if something goes wrong. |
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Electrum 1.9.5 was released. (binaries will follow)
Changes:
* coin control: the 'prioritize' command is replaced by a "send from" menu in the Qt GUI.
(you may select multiple addresses to spend from with the mouse, and the "!" shortcut is compatible with this)
* used addresses are moved to a collapsed section
* more bug fixes
Nice... will the addresses have labels too? (Cant test it since portable version isnt available.) |
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I forgot... ukyo being a board member of Asicminer isnt a relieve since he sold this shares practically as Passthrough Shares... he still have the shares but got the bitcoins for them from other users and is paying out the divs instead. He still has to own the shares since it would be noticed if the div-address was changed.
But this way his board seat is no indicator that he has enough money.
He sold AM shares to Rockiex (another board member in AM) and Rockiex paid him about 250 BTC for that transaction in last month, but I do not know what exactly how many shares of AM had been sold for that 250 BTC, however I remember that after this transaction someone was successfully redeem his loan for 40 BTC with UKYO... I do not know wether UKYO is sold other's pass-through or his own shares, because I was seen someone post that the PASS THROUGH in BF is not same as it according to Friedcat in forum or the Chinese Group chat. (I can't remember exactly ,it been a while). I am really worry about our wealth , seems all things shows that less likely he does continually processing manual withdraws , and there are nobody post over forum says get back his/her BTC out from WeEx. Also if Great is the director of WeEx and BF, he must knows somethings. I really hope anyone in this forum get contact with Great as him to explains what happen with WeEx.. We can't let this situation continuing ,the more time take ,the more risk and more less likely we will get our Coins back as well as the coins lent to UKYO and Great. There was a list of shares connected to bitcoin addresses where the divs should flow in. And i think it should be known what of these addresses belong to ukyo's passthrough. When this number of shares didnt drop then he didnt sell the PT direct shares. |
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coins deposited in BF that sit idle has been seen moving to gox addresses.
then we had better left our coins at bf and now could use them ? what a pity maybe ukyo can return our btc to bf and then send directly to any address ? Bitfunder has no own bitcoin wallet. Bitfunder bitcoins were all the time in weexchange. The thought behind was to divide the business with the wallet website. Thats why weexchange was created from the first start. Thats why there cant be a "bitfunder bitcoin address". Maybe freebits speaks about user addresses at bitfunder that are owned by the customers? That wouldnt have anything to do with weexchange then. |
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2013-10-28 14:46:35 Withdraw 11.XXXXXXXX BTC Processing
2013-10-28 14:44:49 Instant Payment From: BitFunder 11.XXXXXXXX BTC Completed
Nothing yet.
All I wanted was to transfer my G.Asicminer-PT shares to Havelock, by selling them on Bitfunder, withdrawing, then repurchasing on Havelock. This was the day before TATI announced they would do this without the 1 BTC fee and that the G.Asicminer-PT shares would also be transferred.
Gangsta's paradise.
You should post this here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337523 |
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I forgot... ukyo being a board member of Asicminer isnt a relieve since he sold this shares practically as Passthrough Shares... he still have the shares but got the bitcoins for them from other users and is paying out the divs instead. He still has to own the shares since it would be noticed if the div-address was changed.
But this way his board seat is no indicator that he has enough money.
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