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Author Topic: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It  (Read 3916345 times)
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November 22, 2013, 09:43:21 AM
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Are 45nm chips planned to go live? I thought the idea was to jump straight to gen 3.

That was my understanding too.
Gen 3 to be a "mature product" in Feb. 2014, but I haven't heard news of anything to be released before then.

So we're going to watch on empty containers for like ... another 3 months? Or what?  Roll Eyes

Something is happening in 1st datacenter, are they demounting? :




We know nothing of substance until friedcat posts next. Most of us can't even remember what friedcat said was going to happen because it was so long ago and / or confused in its meaning.

None of us can confirm what will happen. Only one group knows and for whatever reason, they are as quite as a fried cat.
Bitcoin mining is now a specialized and very risky industry, just like gold mining. Amateur miners are unlikely to make much money, and may even lose money. Bitcoin is much more than just mining, though!
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November 22, 2013, 12:11:03 PM
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At this point I'm baffled that share price is even at this measly 0.4BTC price point.

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November 22, 2013, 01:52:28 PM
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At this point I'm baffled that share price is even at this measly 0.4BTC price point.

Well, the mining wallet has already 278.67567769 BTC.

For the last dividend 329.70382331 BTC were transfered from the mining wallet.

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November 22, 2013, 04:20:36 PM
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At this point I'm baffled that share price is even at this measly 0.4BTC price point.

I was wondering the same thing.

I woke up and smiled when I saw how much was in the wallet.

Now I need to pickup more shares on havelock
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November 22, 2013, 04:32:32 PM
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I'm baffled why the share price is so tied to the companies performance in a single week. Bizarro.

If AM produced 0 dividends one week would the price drop to 0?  Grin
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November 22, 2013, 04:36:33 PM
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I'm baffled why the share price is so tied to the companies performance in a single week. Bizarro.

If AM produced 0 dividends one week would the price drop to 0?  Grin
That's the consequence.
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November 22, 2013, 04:45:49 PM
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Update

PR & Communications
We understand that transparency and communication to shareholders and the public needs improvement. We are in the process of identifying a dedicated employee for this. We will issue bi-weekly reports for shareholders and improve response time for questions.

Next Gen Chips
The projected time of taping out of Gen3 is January 20. Power consumption target estimation is <0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. Please notice that the timeline is of course subject to change/adjust, and the estimation on power and cost is also based on software tool/simulation results.

Current Hardware Sales
The number of cubes left for sale/deployment is 9000. About 1/3 are ordered already. All older devices (USBs/new blades) are sold out.

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If nothing unexpected happens, Ukyo will provide a shareholder list to Friedcat on Dec 1, for direct shares.

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November 22, 2013, 04:47:41 PM
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Update

PR & Communications
We understand that transparency and communication to shareholders and the public needs improvement. We are in the process of identifying a dedicated employee for this. We will issue bi-weekly reports for shareholders and improve response time for questions.

Next Gen Chips
The projected time of taping out of Gen3 is January 20. Power consumption target estimation is <0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. Please notice that the timeline is of course subject to change/adjust, and the estimation on power and cost is also based on software tool/simulation results.

Current Hardware Sales
The number of cubes left for sale/deployment is 9000. About 1/3 are ordered already. All older devices (USBs/new blades) are sold out.

G.ASICMINER
If nothing unexpected happens, Ukyo will provide a shareholder list to Friedcat on Dec 1, for direct shares.

Thank you.

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November 22, 2013, 04:52:01 PM
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Next Gen Chips
The projected time of taping out of Gen3 is January 20. Power consumption target estimation is <0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. Please notice that the timeline is of course subject to change/adjust, and the estimation on power and cost is also based on software tool/simulation results.
what's the size of the first Gen 3 deployment?  will you be mining with it or selling as hardware?  When is the expected date of release of this hardware?

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November 22, 2013, 05:00:24 PM
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Next Gen Chips
The projected time of taping out of Gen3 is January 20. Power consumption target estimation is <0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. Please notice that the timeline is of course subject to change/adjust, and the estimation on power and cost is also based on software tool/simulation results.
what's the size of the first Gen 3 deployment?  will you be mining with it or selling as hardware?  When is the expected date of release of this hardware?

about 28nm, yes, after Jan 20
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November 22, 2013, 05:00:47 PM
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Next Gen Chips
The projected time of taping out of Gen3 is January 20. Power consumption target estimation is <0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. Please notice that the timeline is of course subject to change/adjust, and the estimation on power and cost is also based on software tool/simulation results.

So the hardware arrives probably in February or March.

Current Hardware Sales
The number of cubes left for sale/deployment is 9000. About 1/3 are ordered already. All older devices (USBs/new blades) are sold out.

3000/9000 were sold in a few days/weeks, right? I assume that the remaining 6000 cubes are sold out pretty fast, too. What happens after that?

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November 22, 2013, 05:01:53 PM
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Next Gen Chips
The projected time of taping out of Gen3 is January 20. Power consumption target estimation is <0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. Please notice that the timeline is of course subject to change/adjust, and the estimation on power and cost is also based on software tool/simulation results.
what's the size of the first Gen 3 deployment?  will you be mining with it or selling as hardware?  When is the expected date of release of this hardware?

about 28nm, yes, after Jan 20

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November 22, 2013, 05:03:04 PM
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"<0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. "

Can someone let us know how this fares against the best competition around at the moment? thx
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November 22, 2013, 05:10:29 PM
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about 28nm, yes, after Jan 20

Size, as in TH/s of the deployment, not the size of the chips.

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November 22, 2013, 05:10:42 PM
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"<0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. "

Can someone let us know how this fares against the best competition around at the moment? thx

CoinTerra announced their chip is going to hash with a power consumption of less than 0.6 W per GH.

A March batch miner with 2 TH has a retail price of $5999, that's $2.9995 per GH.

Though the price is probably not really comparable.

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November 22, 2013, 05:11:13 PM
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"<0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. "

Can someone let us know how this fares against the best competition around at the moment? thx
KNC Jupiter is about 1.2 W/GH (230V), at the wall.
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November 22, 2013, 05:11:25 PM
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Next Gen Chips
The projected time of taping out of Gen3 is January 20. Power consumption target estimation is <0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. Please notice that the timeline is of course subject to change/adjust, and the estimation on power and cost is also based on software tool/simulation results.
what's the size of the first Gen 3 deployment?  will you be mining with it or selling as hardware?  When is the expected date of release of this hardware?

about 28nm, yes, after Jan 20

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November 22, 2013, 05:14:21 PM
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"<0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. "

Can someone let us know how this fares against the best competition around at the moment? thx

CoinTerra announced their chip is going to hash with a power consumption of less than 0.6 W per GH.

A March batch miner with 2 TH has a retail price of $5999, that's $2.9995 per GH.

Though the price is probably not really comparable.

Not comparable at all, because AM has an invicible advantage  Grin
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Monero's privacy and therefore fungibility are MUCH stronger than Bitcoin's. 
This makes Monero a better candidate to deserve the term "digital cash".
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November 22, 2013, 05:19:18 PM
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"<0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. "

Can someone let us know how this fares against the best competition around at the moment? thx

CoinTerra announced their chip is going to hash with a power consumption of less than 0.6 W per GH.

A March batch miner with 2 TH has a retail price of $5999, that's $2.9995 per GH.

Though the price is probably not really comparable.

Well if AM can launch in Feb or (more likely) March, sounds like a *very* competitive solution.

Its amazed me AM kept making money for so long on Gen1 Hardware. The switch to Gen3 will be so sweet. And I expect the btc price to be way over $1000 by then. Bring it on AM!
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"<0.2W per G on low power mode and <0.2$ per G on wafer cost. "

Can someone let us know how this fares against the best competition around at the moment? thx

CoinTerra announced their chip is going to hash with a power consumption of less than 0.6 W per GH.

A March batch miner with 2 TH has a retail price of $5999, that's $2.9995 per GH.

Though the price is probably not really comparable.

BFL vaporware (28nm) also cites 0.6 J/GH.

0.2 J/GH is absolutely stunning. Imagine this, together with liquid cooling. Way to go, FC!

Edit:
Bitfury (55nm) is, I believe 1.25 J/GH.

Hashfast is aiming for 0.65 J/GH.
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