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5461  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 06, 2014, 06:08:28 PM
It's beginning to look like a back bencher case of the Usual Suspects. Not a whole lot of coinage at stake here but perhaps they timed this thing right up until the next bull run so they can have a stake to cash out. Undecided
5462  Other / Politics & Society / Re: In NSA-intercepted data, those not targeted far outnumber the foreigners who are on: July 06, 2014, 06:02:52 PM
The NSA's job is to categorize political dissidents, among others, not necessarily to do their billed job of stopping terrorism. Terrorism is a ruse to clamp down on liberty and at some point, this will manifest itself.
5463  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 05, 2014, 03:06:47 PM
If street prices are $1000 per TH now how much will these 650 TH machines sell for?
I paid 5K for 100GH

double your bitcoin in a year they said, worst investment decision EVER

ํyou didn't get you btc back?

not even close.

in USD terms i made a few bucks...

Similar thing happened to me. Dropped 13 coins on a BFL that took 6 months to get and voila. Let's face it, being an early adopters may have its benefits but we sure learned things the hard way. Smiley
5464  Economy / Securities / Re: CoinReturn - Discussion of Current Issues and Possible Future Actions on: July 05, 2014, 03:00:43 PM
It is a holiday weekend so I don't imagine the DMV will open until Monday at least. Yes, I'm stating the obvious. Cheesy
5465  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Pledge to support MAYDAY PAC to end the power of money in American politics on: July 05, 2014, 03:15:59 AM
This big money exists on both sides of the isle and goes towards establishment candidates. It is a worthy effort but this dynamic of big money vs the grassroots/liberty element is going on mostly in GOP primaries. If there's matching funds going on here, clearly there's big money in good hands right now that should be leveraged in an already existing battle of electing liberty republicans over the chamber of commerce republicans (democrat lite in only certain instances, otherwise the same or worse). Similarly, get active in your local and state GOPs as precinct delegates; that way you can attend county, district and state conventions to determine the party leadership (state and local), state cmte members and your Nat'l cmte members that go to the RNC. Also, pass resolutions to hold nominating sessions at state conventions so your nominees (US Senate, Congress, statewide) are picked by internal party delegates and not by democrats voting in GOP primaries (the recent US Senate campaign in MS where the incumbent payed democrats to vote for him against the liberty/tea party favorite, McDaniel) or by allowing this big establishment money to buy off low info voters at the last minute during these charade primaries. My .02$ but worthy advice as that's what many active liberty movement people are  focusing on between now and 2016 when Rand runs.
5466  Other / Politics & Society / Re: USA is getting adversely affected by Immigrants on: July 05, 2014, 03:04:31 AM
US Heading Toward 3rd World Status
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...The “humanitarian crisis” on the southern border is the most persuasive evidence of all that America is adrift in a sea of incompetence, blown about by every ill wind that blows. The mighty ship of state is bereft of a rudder, traveling in endless circles with the captain stumbling on the bridge, trying to make sense of navigation charts he can’t read.

However, this may be ascribing to incompetence what is better explained by conspiracy. Mr. Obama promised in 2008 that he intended to transform America, and he is well on his way. Anyone who looked closely at the man and the influences that shaped who he would become risked being called a racist, a nativist, a bigot and a redneck yahoo. He was the messiah everyone was waiting for.

The ruins of American foreign policy are not likely to catch the attention of a culture drunk on the entertainment of the trivial, the trifling and the unimportant. But everybody begins to notice when the chaos comes close, when those responsible for monitoring the border begin to tremble and sag under the weight of a tsunami of illegal immigration. The scary implications for the future of the exceptional nation begins to weigh on Congress.
This week, a Texas congressman who does not have the luxury of looking the other way because he sees trouble in every direction he looks, said what the nice people think must never be said. The tsunami will change everything.

“Either we’re going to enforce our laws and remain strong, economically or otherwise, or we ignore the rule of law and go to being a Third World country,” Rep. Louie Gohmert, a Republican, told Fox News. “You’ve got to follow the law. You cannot bring hundreds of thousands of people in this country without destroying the country. Then there’s no place that people can dream about coming.”

No one knows this better than Barack Obama. Making the United States over into a Third World country is exactly what this president is about. He is of the Third World. He spent his formative years in the Third World, and when his mother, obsessed with the Third World, brought him back to America, he sought out the company of those who dreamed of making America over into the world’s largest welfare state, a France writ large, with Velveeta instead of Camembert. He and his Chicago cohort of potheads, “community organizers” and dreamers of fuzzy dreams entertained themselves with fantasies of how they would one day transform the land of the free and the home of the brave into a nation worthy of taking its rightful place among the nations of the Third World.

Mr. Obama sounds like that captain who can’t make sense of the navigation charts, but it may be an act. He understands navigation very well. He talks of deporting the illegal children, of appointing hundreds of immigration judges and opening a vast new network of “detention facilities.” That may be his promised jobs program.

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More...http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/3/pruden-en-route-to-the-third-world/
5467  Other / Politics & Society / Re: USA is getting adversely affected by Immigrants on: July 05, 2014, 02:52:49 AM
SAVAGE: MEDIA 'HIDING' ILLEGAL-ALIEN DISEASE THREAT
He's an Epidemiologist as is like the #3 guy in national radio shows. I don't agree w/ him on many things but he's got it right here.

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The establishment media’s refusal to acknowledge that once-contained or eradicated diseases are re-entering the U.S. through the latest flood of illegal aliens isn’t a surprise to Michael Savage, who earned a doctorate in epidemiology at the University of California at Berkeley before becoming a top nationally syndicated talk-radio host.



“What the liberal media is hiding from you can be dangerous for your safety, your security and your health,” he told his listeners.

After earning his doctorate in 1978 and writing six books, Savage pitched to publishers a book titled “Immigrants and Epidemics,” which he wrote with the dean of a “prestigious public health university.”

“Although all my previous books had done well,” Savage recalled, “all publishers in New York City in 1982 said we cannot publish a book on immigrants and epidemics, no matter how well (documented) or factually true it is. We can’t publish it for political reasons.”

The rejection angered him, he said, and was one of the reasons he eventually decided to go into talk radio, in 1994.

Since then, he said, “I’ve been trying to warn Americans about what unscreened immigrants will be bringing into America.”

‘You’re not going to hear this’

As thousands of illegal-alien children, prompted by President Obama’s policies, overwhelm the capacity of southern border states, Border Patrol agents who essentially have been turned into child caretakers are being exposed to disease, Savage said.

“Right now, you’re not going to hear this, but we have Tuberculosis, hand-foot-and-mouth disease, Chagas disease – previously eradicated from Southern California – on the rise and testing positive in … Border Patrol agents,” Savage said.
More...http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/savage-media-hiding-illegal-alien-disease-threat/
5468  Other / Politics & Society / U.S. Seen as Biggest Oil Producer After Overtaking Saudi Arabia on: July 05, 2014, 02:46:10 AM

Oil pumps stand at the Chevron Corp. Kern River oil field in Bakersfield, California.
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The U.S. will remain the world’s biggest oil producer this year after overtaking Saudi Arabia and Russia as extraction of energy from shale rock spurs the nation’s economic recovery, Bank of America Corp. said.

U.S. production of crude oil, along with liquids separated from natural gas, surpassed all other countries this year with daily output exceeding 11 million barrels in the first quarter, the bank said in a report today. The country became the world’s largest natural gas producer in 2010. The International Energy Agency said in June that the U.S. was the biggest producer of oil and natural gas liquids.

“The U.S. increase in supply is a very meaningful chunk of oil,” Francisco Blanch, the bank’s head of commodities research, said by phone from New York. “The shale boom is playing a key role in the U.S. recovery. If the U.S. didn’t have this energy supply, prices at the pump would be completely unaffordable.”

Oil extraction is soaring at shale formations in Texas and North Dakota as companies split rocks using high-pressure liquid, a process known as hydraulic fracturing, or fracking. The surge in supply combined with restrictions on exporting crude is curbing the price of West Texas Intermediate, America’s oil benchmark. The U.S., the world’s largest oil consumer, still imported an average of 7.5 million barrels a day of crude in April, according to the Department of Energy’s statistical arm.
More...http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-04/u-s-seen-as-biggest-oil-producer-after-overtaking-saudi.html
5469  Other / Politics & Society / Re: USA is getting adversely affected by Immigrants on: July 05, 2014, 01:09:30 AM
Here's another gem:
NY considering letting non-citizens vote!
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You soon may not need citizenship to vote in the US; just become a New Yorker
Ron Hayduk is professor of Political Science at Queens College of the City University of New York.

Contrary to popular opinion, voting in America is not intrinsically tied to citizenship. Voting has always been about who has a say in selecting representatives. And political exclusion is a recipe for disastrous, discriminatory public policy and private practice.

And yet the US is, again, excluding a large and growing segment of its population from the democratic process.

Over the last few weeks, New York state has been considering a law to make nearly 3 million non-citizen residents eligible to vote. A similar piece of legislation soon to be reintroduced to the New York City Council, which actually has a decent shot at passage, would give more than 1 million legal non-citizen residents the right to vote in local elections.

Can you imagine how electoral dynamics in New York City would change if 1 million new voters were added to the rolls, particularly if those new voters were the newest New Yorkers? The “Voting Rights Restoration Act” would restore (yes, restore) voting rights to legal non-citizen immigrants in municipal elections (to vote for mayor, comptroller, city council members, and borough presidents).

People are usually surprised to learn that non-citizen immigrants voted historically, and are even more surprised to know they do so currently—and legally—in the US. Historically, non-citizens voted from the founding of the US in 1776 to 1926 in 40 states and federal territories (including New York). Non-citizens voted in local, state, and even federal elections. Currently, non-citizens vote in local elections in six towns in Maryland and in school elections in Chicago. And from 1969 to 2002, non-citizens voted in New York City’s 32 Community School Board elections. Non-citizens also ran and successfully held office in those bodies, to good ends. It is one of the best and proven ways to facilitate voter participation, immigrant incorporation, and government accountability. Remarkably, New York has another chance to restore this effective way to boost civic engagement and representative governance. Globally, at least 45 countries on nearly every continent allow for non-citizen voting, whether at the national, regional or local level....

(more) hxxp ://qz.com/227104/you-dont-need-us-citizenship-to-vote-just-become-a-new-yorker/
If you're a New Yorker, you like liberty and you like the north east, you might want to consider moving to New Hampshire as part of the Free State Project to get away from the litany of state-side statism until you're wealthy enough to make the exodus to St. Kitts.
5470  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-07-03] How Bitcoin can transform the developing world - The Telegraph on: July 04, 2014, 11:51:00 PM
This should take off as more and more people make the switch over from their present version of mobile payments. It'll be interesting to see what next months transfers look in terms of % increases from the first month.
5471  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-07-04] CD: EBA:Financial Institutions Should Avoid BTC & Await Regulat on: July 04, 2014, 11:38:39 PM
Screw regulation.  Correct me if I'm wrong here but wasn't bitcoin created to circumvent all of this regulatory BS?  Why in the hell is everybody pushing for regulation...it makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever!
I suspect many in the business community or BTC startup outfits are the ones that are content w/ certain regulations to legitimize this new arena of finance/currency.  It's not like the blockchain itself is regulated because it kind of does its own thing independent of the rest. But in order for average people to feel safer using a pioneer technology for payments when they have other/older options, perhaps some of these regs will help crypto come on sooner rather than later. The true libertarian/anarcho caste is quite finite at this time but the peripheral possibilities w/ a little extra help are boundless. I'd prefer private regulations but banks and businesses operate on a different level these days.
5472  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-07-04] CryptoCrimson: New ETF Looks To Bring Bitcoin To Your 401(K) on: July 04, 2014, 09:56:16 PM
There's lots of retirees and current workers that could really benefit from this w/o having to really think about all the intricacies of the crypto world. At some point, this phony stock market will have to show itself for what it really is: a short term illusion of growth. Then, it's game over for a lot of people who had the foresight to stock up for retirement. However, there's so many families and individuals that have very little or nothing outside of social security waiting for them when they move out of the labor market. Even worse off are those that are stuck on govt subsidies as they aren't on track for anything as the money becomes worth less and less and prices go up on all essentials. It just so happens I was listening to the largest radio show in metro Detroit a little while ago on my way home and the host (yes, live on Independence Day) was asking people if they're still living the American Dream. And, especially in this area, I highly doubt even a quarter of the listeners could answer yes. I'd be one of them, w/o BTC.
5473  Other / Politics & Society / Re: USA is getting adversely affected by Immigrants on: July 04, 2014, 09:48:29 PM
^That's right, it should be obvious even to the most ardent supporter of Obama or the progressive agenda that there's an ongoing plan being pushed to devastate this country w/ illegals that haven't been vetted yet yet easily transported to some resettlement area being paid for by current and future taxpaying citizens. And, then you have instances like this where the lady is married to a marine of all people plus an education and is locked up. It's in situations like this where those that are reasonable for more orderly immigration reform turn away from anything the left has to offer, especially since they aren't interested in border enforcement in the least.
5474  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who is the Speaker going to file a lawsuit with? on: July 04, 2014, 09:42:52 PM
Executive orders are merely supposed to be commands ordered by the President to govern federal agencies, not a way around Congress or other checks and balances to impose law. The Founders purposely made it hard to pass laws for a reason and narrowly defined the scope thereof in Art I, Sec VIII of the US Constitution. And, "All legislative powers herein granted are to be vested in a Congress" is the very first sentence.
5475  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What good things has Obama had since he is elected ? on: July 04, 2014, 09:29:12 PM
See no good, hear no good, speak no good.  Long for the days of losing 700,0000 jobs per month.  Change the way we have historically tallied unemployment to make the numbers all look worse.

92 million americans.....many of which are children and retired baby boomers.   But the number sure sounds awful.  There are more people working today than in 2009.   That is driving you nuts.

There's no doubt that the u3 unemployment numbers reported in the media are far from accurate as they only account for a small percentage of unemployed. If the the entire u1-u6 numbers were used as the unemployment numbers, unemployment percentage would easily jump by 6 percent, by conservative estimates.
Not to mention these so-called created jobs are lower wage and minimum wage jobs, not the middle class lifting element that we've seen in the past. The ones that are great are typically contract positions that last for a short time and are usually benefiting to those that have been in the job market for decades and/or newly retired folks. There's a whole generation (millenials) that have next to no opportunities our of high school or those that graduate college w/ a 2 or 4 yr degree that have loans w/o jobs in the line of work they went to school for. So, there's a very limited supply of younger people having families in a responsible way that can afford to buy even starter homes, let alone buy the houses of all the Boomers retiring. It's not just Obama to blame but the entire ruling and political class current and past that have used the system for their advantage at the expense of main street. There's no way to defend the amount of spending that's been going on abroad or here at home thinking that's a way to future prosperity and I can't believe there's anyone into cryptos that truly buys into any of that.
5476  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CNN national poll: Rand Paul 13%, Bush 13%, Ryan 12%, Huckabee 10%, Christie 9% on: July 04, 2014, 09:19:52 PM
Still on the fence on whether I want to get hopes up and campaign again.... getting excited, though. Maybe I'll order a couple new ink cartridges just in case. Grin
Michigan will definitely be in play this time around unlike last time when Daddy came through for a few token rallies. Plenty of money will be spent here in this market and I know we have damn near a majority of Congressional districts where the delegates and local and state cmte members are big Rand fans. He'll be an even bigger force to be reckoned w/ as he keeps campaigning on issues that matter to minorities including those economic freedom zones that are a hit w/ business folk. Good times ahead plus more of us will have more money next time around.
5477  Other / Politics & Society / Re: CNN national poll: Rand Paul 13%, Bush 13%, Ryan 12%, Huckabee 10%, Christie 9% on: July 04, 2014, 06:31:13 PM
Rand Paul — the doctor, not the senator — prepares for a unique summer trip
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Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has spent considerable time in recent years cultivating supporters and donors and serving as a partisan counterweight to President Obama’s top priorities.

Just three years into his first term in the U.S. Senate, Paul has talked openly about running for president in 2016, giving speeches at GOP party conventions in Texas, Iowa and Idaho, attending a reunion of top supporters of 2012 GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney and sitting alongside influential conservative media mogul Rupert Murdoch at the Kentucky Derby.

But Paul is also planning a summer trip that appears more focused on his past than on his future, one that bypasses Iowa, New Hampshire and all of the other key nomination states.

When Congress adjourns for a five-week recess in August, Paul plans to join a medical mission to Guatemala, where he will team up with eye surgeons, nurses and technicians from the University of Utah to visit Salamá, a small manufacturing and commercial center nestled between two mountain ranges 3,000 feet above sea level, north of Guatemala City.

The trip doesn’t play into his political future “in any conscious fashion,” Paul says. But for a presidential hopeful everything matters. The mid-August trip, for example, is also likely to include a small band of aides and reporters, and what other potential presidential candidates can say that they have helped the blind see?

More...http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/rand-paul--the-doctor-not-the-senator--prepares-for-a-unique-summer-trip/2014/06/30/7a805e8c-fd55-11e3-8176-f2c941cf35f1_story.html
5478  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The NSA Is Targeting Users of Privacy Services, Leaked Code Shows on: July 04, 2014, 06:23:52 PM
ProXPN is one of the better anonymizing services out there and logs you out of the Netherlands. Something to check out.
5479  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Any chance Hillary Clinton could be gay? on: July 04, 2014, 05:37:57 PM
...even if she were gay, she would never announce (now of all times) right before her presidential run.

Are you kidding?  Hillary's approval rating would skyrocket if she announced she was gay.  People love gays.

Hillary is not gay.  She's a pragmatist.  She will have sex with or kill whomever she pleases if the action is pragmatic at the time.

Hillary is uniquely qualified to supervise the collapse of the Empire.

Vote Hillary 2016!  Let's get this done!
Potentially true but if the average person is thinking more about their lot in life rather than what's hip in 2016 then Rand Paul will mop the floor w/ Hillary or any other statist they can enthuse people about.
5480  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-07-01] Bank of Russia: Bitcoin Should Not Be Rejected on: July 04, 2014, 05:29:33 PM
Russia wants to weaken the dollar's dominance as the global currency. Bitcoin is a strong candidate.
That's likely to have something to do with the bigger picture here. But, I'm sure the authorities have been instructed by some of their wealthier and/or more knowledgeable people that they should open the gates so their buddies can get in on the bottom couple of floors.
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