|
The price went again under 226 so Umisoo is unprofitable again.
|
|
|
|
Update: register page fixed Also go my second daily payout.  What is your expected ROI? This is weekly payout I assume? From what i understand your normal investment is still yours you can pull it anytime. What the idea is they are putting more coins into a wallet when the pos hits the profits are shared. which are split by investment weight the more investments the more the wallet is full, staking higher i guess. From what it says you can pull your investment anytime so i guess your investment is still yours but profits from having coins in the wallet are split. -Edit- From what im thinking its like a bunch of people sharing a bank account sharing interest accumulated. Tho maybe there is an easier way of explaining it but im not the guy for that. -/Edit- More info is here: https://stakeminers.com/how.phpI understand that. What I would like to know is the time period required to get back what you have invested while leaving your original investment to stake cause staking is all about not moving coins. |
|
|
|
Update: register page fixed Also go my second daily payout. What is your expected ROI? This is weekly payout I assume? |
|
|
|
...
still the most succeful is coke, the other are just niche market, the same with alt and bitcoin, bitcoin is the primary and most accepted while alt are just for the minority who got bored to play with bitcoin only
also this isn't exactly a good comparison, because bitcoin has utility, those are only "food" instead
People like choice and people want to have choices. The same goes for drinks and crypto. I personally hold 3 additional cryptocurrencies besides BTC and each of them s got some kind of unique trait which I like. Not to mention the fact it s much easier to make money on alts then on BTC. Yes why not, but you can't say : Yes it can. DMD Diamond s primairly store of value and it s going to be big. Yes, I have invested in it and yes you can consider this as a promotion. However, if I think it s smart to invest my own money in it, I see no reason why I would not recommend it to other people.
If you want to store value, the best choice at the moment is the gold. If you talk in the cryptocurrency world, there is not exist a coin that can considered primarily store of value". Just my opinion and maye I'm wrong. Gold is not something I m interest in cause I have my investments into crypto. If I wanted traditional sources, I would not be here. Besides, a store of value comparison between gold and crypto s probably one of the most common ones. I m simply saying, DMD is, IMHO, the closest thing I currently consider to to store of value coin. If you have any other option which s better, pls do suggest it and explain why. |
|
|
|
I strongly disagree.
The only effect BTC anonymity generates is to attract tons or scammers, thieves and ponzi pumpers to the industry. They are able to scam ordinary users, especially newbies and by doing this they do a lot of damage to the crypto world. Why would I want to support something like that?
Bitcoin was designed to be semi-anon. For the blockchain to work, everything is known by everyone, but no one (unless info is publicly given, such as tags) knows who actually controls which address. That is the current anonymous aspect to Bitcoin, and is very important. In the event that all addresses in the future, must be labeled with real people's identities (and verified), whether to stop scams or for tax purposes, or to prevent other crimes or etc, then there is no point in using Bitcoin. We just basically neutered Bitcoin and transformed it into a means for a totalitarian system of control. We would basically have a open banking system that everyone can see all transactions and see who owns what, who sends money to who, and etc. I could not think of a better system for governments to use to oppress the people for the new age of crypto-currency. I disagree again. The main strengths of BTC should be the lack of fees, easy access to financing from anywhere, application built at the top of the blockchain, etc.etc. Nothing related to anonymity. I will never advocate something which can help people avoid taxes, set dark markets, sell drugs, finance terrorism etc. I see this as unfortunate side effect of BTC which is there exactly due to the lack of any kind of control and consumer protection. Personally, I would like it to go away so we can have this beautiful new technology developing on new ideas, business, investment funds, increased financing options, BTC start-ups etc. All this has nothing to do with anonymity. |
|
|
|
|
If you hope for this project to have any success, I would advise you to work on transparency issues.
First, who s behind this. Names, social contacts, data
Second, where is this fund located, address, office, registration.
Third, references, if any, past successful projects, education, why are you good for this job.
Fourth, the web page s ok but it does seem a bit amateurish for this kind of fund. This is just my personal observation and not something which should be takes seriously.
Fifth, strong exit strategy, what happens if things go south.
If you need a honest review or anything else, I am always glad to help.
|
|
|
|
Still not dead, still paying dust:
For 4 contracts, the current amount pending, and the last amount paid with when it was paid.
0.00000907 0.00005345 21-03-2015 09:56:01
0.00001723 0.00002488 04-04-2015 14:06:01
0.00000249 0.00000622 12-04-2015 19:16:01
0.00004032 0.00006298 14-03-2015 11:49:01
How often do they send this dust cause at this rate it seems it would take years to get your refund back? |
|
|
|
Sigh.... I know you are right Maestro ( or crazyivan ) thing is...We can't say for how much time it will last...It's still work...It could exploded like any cloudmining companies around, but we just can say when it will... From now...I have almost my ROI, maybe 2 or 3 payouts... As seen on their twitter page ; cloudminr.io @cloudminr Our largest shipment of mining hardware is in the customs already. Should be online by next Wednesday! https://cloudminr.io Most of the answers were ; Ok but can you offer Pictures ? I guess it would be a good timing to get more transparency. As much as I can see, they have introduced another discount coupon which bring prices to even more laughable level. Also, this increased marking campaign without a single proof only adds more blocks to the puzzle, things do not look good. What do they reply when you ask for photos of that hardware? |
|
|
|
Now a days didn't receive any emails on our investment profits. Is it going to close now?
Yap, it s going to close. I received an email about owner closing down the fund due to lack of interest from potential investors. He does plan to pay accumulated profits for people who joined his test campaign. I do not think anyone invested at this point, we were using his free giveaway program to test the service. |
|
|
|
I'd probably wait until it hit the first exchanges and buy as much as I could. Definitely not spend 25k BTC on a couple pizzas.
It wasn't 25k, it was 10k  What about opening pizza place and selling pizzas for BTC. At the price that guy paid for a pizza, you would be a gazilionaire by now. |
|
|
|
|
I strongly disagree.
The only effect BTC anonymity generates is to attract tons or scammers, thieves and ponzi pumpers to the industry. They are able to scam ordinary users, especially newbies and by doing this they do a lot of damage to the crypto world. Why would I want to support something like that?
|
|
|
|
Hashnest is sure legit but how this help us when deals they offer are so bad and you wont ROI at all. Same for some other "legit" services. I cant understand how taking my money and guaranteed me i wont ROI at all make them less scamers from any other proved scam services?
So do you prefer those deals from those ponzis sites which offer you less time to ROI? do you capable of getting ROI from those sites? all I know is that those ponzis sites will close once they are unable to support the site with their ponzis system. Getting that unreal short time for ROI in one sites surely indicates that the sites is of course a ponzi site, The only way to profit from a ponzi system is to get in faster but that doesnt actually means you will get your ROI before the site closes as there are still a chance that their business might close down before anyone reach ROI When you invest your money in any site its 100% loss day 1. Difference come from how much you going to return in time frame. Bitman/Hashnest are "safe legit" service but after 1 year im going to be still much negative ROI so its make them 100% bad invest = scam deal - refer atm S5 offer. In this topic we talk for cloudminr.io. Invest here Your ROI is 100% after ~~100 days. So risk/return is much better ratio compare Bitman/Hashnest. First service guarantee 100% loss part from your money and second give you chance for ROI and Profit if they stay around for longer. In second one is risk to invest but in first one is dumb to invest. A lot other service offer worse deals from Bitman/Hashnest so they are more "scam" don't matter how legit they are. Yes indeed a much better investment in term of ROI, but in term of security, cloudminr.io have been up for almost 6 months If I recall correctly and most of the ponzis cloudmining only hold up for max 1 year, in short, It could run up with investor's funds anytime sooner and it trigger a red flag for people to "invest" in there I do agree that hashnet took much longer time for ROI, but I wouldnt call it a loss after I put in my coins there since I put my coins in a legit site like hashnet. Disclaimer : any sites could run away with investor's funds, do your own dilligence before investing Once more. Send them a support ticket and ask for their mining address. If they do not want to provide it, ask why not. There s no better test then that. |
|
|
|
Yes it can. DMD Diamond s primairly store of value and it s going to be big. Yes, I have invested in it and yes you can consider this as a promotion. However, if I think it s smart to invest my own money in it, I see no reason why I would not recommend it to other people.
I don't see a point for a coin to have any value over Bitcoin, unless it does something that Bitcoin can't do. I do not think DMD is the case. Its the same as saying it pointless to have Pepso, Fanta and Sprite since we have Coke. Well, I like my choices. I m sure other 2 million supporters of other alts also like their choices. Can BTC stake? still the most succeful is coke, the other are just niche market, the same with alt and bitcoin, bitcoin is the primary and most accepted while alt are just for the minority who got bored to play with bitcoin only also this isn't exactly a good comparison, because bitcoin has utility, those are only "food" instead People like choice and people want to have choices. The same goes for drinks and crypto. I personally hold 3 additional cryptocurrencies besides BTC and each of them s got some kind of unique trait which I like. Not to mention the fact it s much easier to make money on alts then on BTC. |
|
|
|
Yes, I also considered testing them before I saw that scam accusation thread. I ll wait a bit to see how it goes. |
|
|
|
I would put my money on Wall Street. Once big investment funds start investing and trading BTC, it ll become mainstream and no different then any other commodity like oil, corn or gas. The problem is that none of these firm s gonna touch BTC unless there is the appropriate legislation in place, especially the one aimed towards consumer protection. So yes, we need some forum of lose legislation first.
Maybe Gemini will do the job, it sounds a legit top-nutch exchange. Probably but there aren't any recent new regarding Gemini though, I think coinbase will do the job before Gemini and introduce bitcoin trading in wall street . Yes, I ve noticed this as well. After leaking the news about them being online before summer, no info at all. Why do you think this is? Still waiting for papers? |
|
|
|
You want to do it in a relative short period of time, so no cashing out slowly in 5 years version. Why? Cashing in a short period of time would crush the price and he would effectively lose money. Cashing over longer period of time would allow him to get more FIAT for his coins. |
|
|
|
The main problem is that people consider the price level to be the major determinant of sustainability, which is partially correct.
However, at this point even increased acceptance and use of BTC leads to price decline. Why? Retailers accept BTC and immediately sell it for FIAT thus creating downward pressure to BTC price.
I would say it is a big issue. As if it's not enough to pay for mining most would shut down. Sure some would stay up that believe in bitcoin. But most can not afford to keep running if at a loss. BTC system is designed to correct itself. If the price goes down big time, which I personally do not believe, some less efficient miners would get out of the game. As a consequence, mining difficulty would go down and mining would become profitable again. |
|
|
|
|
DMD Diamond price went up 10% in less then 24 hours and it will continue to rise IMHO.
So this coin s going to be the best example how store of value coin can be successful. True, it takes a very active team behind it to do so as well.
|
|
|
|
If this is not an April Fools' joke, it would be interesting to know what miners are they using to achieve such incredible roi. Well, scrypt.cc would defend that they are trading altcoins, but what about the others  I think they are ponzi. Scrypt.cc is more ponzi then all of them together. 60 days ROI and you sell this to outsiders, yeah right. Do you have any proof that Scrypt.cc is giving ROI in 60 days ? Then I must try them... There is a calculator on their home page which gives you 60+ days result. Recently they had some drop in payouts but ROI s still unbelievable. No proof they mine at all though. I am looking for ROI proof, NOT mining proof. Bit-X does not provide any mining proof either except for some vouch they got from BitFury by bribing them. Do you have an evidence backing your ridiculous claim? Do you have any evidence that bitcoincloudservices.com, cloudmining.website or cloudminr.io do not have their own miner ? I would gladly accept any ASIC producer vouching for any of these companies you have mentioned as a proof they actually mine. I would also gladly accept any other proof known to man. No? Why not? First of all, this account switching is very disturbing Marco. If you want to honestly argue, use at least one account per thread. Now, coming to your point. What you gladly accept is immaterial. What our previous experience and logic says is important here. Our previous experience says that Asic Miner vouched for Hashie and then both vanished in the thin air one by one. It has been stated several times on various threads that what proof a cloud miner can provide to prove legitimacy beyond doubt. It is publishing their mining address & sold hash power which updates in real time. Unfortunately, not a single cloud miner that exists today does this. ASIC producer vouching is simply eye wash as it easily be gained by bribing them. Like someone said before that BitcoinCloudServices 'bought' their space in Bitcoin Foundation to show legitimacy. It does not prove anything. What is left is ROI. How can we beat the declining price of Bitcoin. That is why the list maintained by OP is important. Where you can see the real profit chart beyond this legitimacy game. I guess there s no point arguing with you so I ll say the following. I will be here to remind you about your words when every single of these 3 ponzi services goes down. Regarding account, crazyivan was sailing these forums much before you have even heard about BTC so pls do not suggest I use more then one account and that I might be somebody else. |
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
