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5461  Other / Meta / Re: Can not post, IP blocked on: October 26, 2019, 04:32:46 PM
Is anybody else having this problem?

I had the same problem today.
After much persuasion, a friend decided to enter the crypto world, so I showed him today how to open btc wallet, how to send and receive btc and finally wanted to help him to register at this forum.
After registration, when my friend tried to make his first post in life on this forum, he received warning that he can't post on the forum because his P is blocked, because he is on the ''evil list'' and if he wants to ublock his account he have to pay some btc amount.
Of course he gave up immediately, and this was also his beginning and a definitive end to the crypto world.
I don't think I have chance now to bring him back to the crypto, ever.
Idea that someone who has never sent a single satoshi in his life and does not know how it works, and how to buy or send bitcoin at all, has to pay some satoshi to be able to post in this forum at all is definitely not good and so we will completely refuse some people from crypto which is a tragedy that should not be allowed.
I feel very sad because of it.

I mean, you and your friend are really being overly dramatic here, and if that's what it takes for your friend to be dissuaded from "crypto", i doubt he would've lasted very long anyway.

although -- you do have a bit of a point.

I mean.. It's 2019. Bitcointalk is already using cloudflare-- why not remove evil ip fees for database IP's/IP's that have already been used before, and simply keep them for the IP's of banned accounts + tor exit nodes?

Or am i misunderstanding here that database IP's are in fact not detected as evil IP's by default?

I think i've read somewhere that this is/was the case, and i also think that most phone networks (3G/4G) in countries such as India are detected as datacenter IP's (as opposed to it being residential ones.), which might cause unnecessary "Evil IP" fees for a lot of newbies?



It's your opinion.
I have been pushing my friend, who is very skeptical toward crypto for a whole year to get involved and to try and when I finally succeed what happened?
My friend registered his account on the forum and when he tried to make first post here, we realized that his account is blocked and on the black list (evil list) and only way to unblock him is to pay some fee in btc.
Of course, he said that no way he will pay for the ''right'' to write on this forum, it's stupid and funny for him.
Bitcointalk forum just lost one user but I think it will be one of many if admins don't solve this issue.
I don't plan to invite anybody else on this forum.
I learned my lesson today hard way.
5462  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Registracija na bitcointalk forumu on: October 26, 2019, 04:24:56 PM
Neka proba registraciju preko mobilne mreze
Mozda to prodje glatko

Ma preko mobitela je baš i pokušao, drugo nema.
I tako je bio skeptičan prema svemu tome i jedva sam ga nagovorio da danas krene s tim i onda odmah čita da je na nekoj crnoj ili listi zla i da mora platiti da bi uopće mogao pisati na forumu, i to kada se već registrirao.
Zahvalio mi se i rekao da ga ovo više ne zanima i da ne misli plaćati bilo što za ovakve gluposti.
Super, neka samo ovako nastave pa će početi gubiti i druge, potencijalne članove, na ovom forumu.
Ja sigurno neću više nikoga zvati da se ovdje registrira, nema šanse.
5463  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: October 26, 2019, 01:27:37 PM
MU fans probably are dreaming about winning Europa league and reaching Champions league through, same like Mourinho did few years ago, cuz there is no chances to finnish in TOP 4 in EPL. But c'mon, they are struggling against teams like Partizan and Astana. If they continue to play like now, they will be eliminated by first more solid team in playoff round.

I agree with you.
I don't think ManUTD have enough quality this season to win Europa League, and we can expect new coach soon.


Manchester United have been in a major crisis for a very long time.
When Mourinho won second place with them it was a failure and now they can't even get into the Champions League.
Mourinho even stated that winning second place with Manchester United was one of his greatest career successes and was ridiculed for making this statement.
They are getting worse every year and it seems that their decline has no end.
Winning the Europa League? Don't be ridiculous!?
5464  Other / Meta / Re: Can not post, IP blocked on: October 26, 2019, 01:17:10 PM
Is anybody else having this problem?

I had the same problem today.
After much persuasion, a friend decided to enter the crypto world, so I showed him today how to open btc wallet, how to send and receive btc and finally wanted to help him to register at this forum.
After registration, when my friend tried to make his first post in life on this forum, he received warning that he can't post on the forum because his P is blocked, because he is on the ''evil list'' and if he wants to ublock his account he have to pay some btc amount.
Of course he gave up immediately, and this was also his beginning and a definitive end to the crypto world.
I don't think I have chance now to bring him back to the crypto, ever.
Idea that someone who has never sent a single satoshi in his life and does not know how it works, and how to buy or send bitcoin at all, has to pay some satoshi to be able to post in this forum at all is definitely not good and so we will completely refuse some people from crypto which is a tragedy that should not be allowed.
I feel very sad because of it.
5465  Other / Meta / Re: fillippone Merit Source Application on: October 26, 2019, 01:04:19 PM
I will be supporting this application buddy. Come on theymos, this guy deserves it also please give some kind attention to my application too :-P

You really take too much test :-D

I support both of you.
Royse777, I'm surprised that you are still waiting, I was thinking that you already became merit source.
Based on the posts reported, fillippone is one of he best candidate that I saw in the long time.
In fact, I don't understand why he had to apply for merit source at all?
Many have become merit sources without a formal application on the forum.
It seems that now candidates have to wait very long after application for merit source what is not good.


5466  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Registracija na bitcointalk forumu on: October 26, 2019, 12:50:12 PM
Dakle, priča ide ovako.
Već duže vrijeme govorim kolegama na poslu o bitcoinu i što je to, i o ovom forumu i mogućnostima da se bitcoin zarađuje bez rizika tj. ulaganja vlastitog novca, već kroz signature kampanje, projekte prevođenja i druge ponuđene projekte.
I konačno danas nagovorim jednog kolegu, nakon jakoooo dugo nagovaranja, da krene.
I već na prvom koraku, registraciji na forumu, blokada i čovjek odustaje, vjerujem zauvijek, i od bitcoina i od crypta.
Što se dogodilo?
Nakon obavljene registracije dobiva poruku da mu je IP blokiran, da je na tzv. ''listi zla'' jer mu je IP (njegov ili susjedni) ''prepoznat'' i da mora uplatiti određeni iznos da se odblokira i da može pisati na forumu.
Nisam imao pojma što se događa i konačno sam maloprije otkrio temu u kojoj se malo pojašnjava o tome: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195733.0
OK razumijem da theymos želi zaustaviti spamere i da ima neke regije (čini se da je sada i HRvatska na popisu) koje su mu iz nekog razloga ''sumnjive'' i sve IP adrese iz tog područja blokira i traži da se za deblokadu IP adrese plati neki iznos u bitcoinu ali čovjek je tek ušao u btc svijet, nikada u životu nije poslao ni jednu btc transakciju niti zaradio išta, i još kada je vidio da je na nekoj ''listi zla'' zahvalio se i rekao da izlazi iz te priče i da ne misli plaćati ništa samo za pravo da bi pisao na nekom ''glupom'' forumu i da ne bi bio na nekakvoj listi zla.
Ne znam, čini mi se da je ovo pretjerano i da će odbiti nove ljude, koji tek ulaze u crypto svijet, kao što je definitivno odbilo mojeg kolegu koji se ovdje sigurno više neće vraćati, na žalost.
Što vi mislite o ovome?

Iza je pojašnjenje od themosa:
Did you open a new account? If yes, then it was probably blocked due to some level of evil associated with the IP. In the error message there is a payment process which lifts the ban on posting. I'm guessing the units of evil associated with your area was lower when you registered this account or you changed location.
Theymos explains it more here;
When you register, the IP that you used when you submitted the registration form is used to calculate your evilness. The more frequently this IP or its neighbors were banned, the more evil is associated with your account. The amount of evil associated with an IP decays slowly over time, but the amount of evil associated with an account does not. You must pay or be manually whitelisted to enable posting on one of these "banned" accounts.

Here are some stats:

Evil% new users
053
0-135
1-104.4
10-200.80
20-502.2
50-1001.3
100+2.9

Currently each unit of evil requires a payment of 4023 satoshi. You only need to pay something if you have 1 or more, though.
5467  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Lightning network on: October 26, 2019, 12:38:21 PM
[...] Istina, ali ovo bi bilo baš fora postaviti u neki centar. Recimo, Bitcoin store je u City Centar East (veliki trgovački centar u ZG) i mislim da bi tamo negdje stvarno mogli postaviti ovakav uređaj. Vjerujem da ne košta puno, a klincima bi moglo biti fora jer su prošla vremena kad su klinci s 10 kuna za gablec išli u školu. Sad im 10 kuna bude ostatak na kraju dana...
Stvarno? Mozda da pogledas cijene BTC ATM machine pa malo izracunas koliko transakcije sa nekom prosijecnom vrednost bi trebale da se izvrse sa nekim malim fee-om da bi se ta machina uopste isplatila (a kamoli zaradilo nesto)...
Mislim da se tu referira na taj mini DIY BTC ATM iz clanka , cija izrada bi bila puno jeftinija od ovih standardih  full size ATM koje trenutno vidjamo.
Upravo tako. Ja sam mislio na ove uradi sam ATM-ove koji ne koštaju puno. A sad, koliko treba da se isplati... To ne znam. Ali zašto bi svaka stvar koja se uvodi trebala biti isplativa nakon godinu ili dvije. Što fali da se isplati i nakon pet godina ako si siguran da je blockchain budućnost?

Mislis da ne kosta puno da se napravi? Mozda ne na materiale, ali da vidim ko to moze da uradi (i znanje kosta). I koliko vremena ga to kosta... Pa onda jos odrzavanje toga (da vidim koliko dugo ce da stoji na mestu ako sakupi par tijedna vrednog novaca)....

A zasto "treba" biti isplatljiv? Ne znam, pitaj poduzetnika...  Roll Eyes

Mozda ti zelis svoje vreme, truda i novaca/lokaciju da ulozis...?

A da ne govorimo da i sama lokacija košta, nigdje više bankomat ne možeš postaviti besplatno,
Onda, tu su i određene dozvole koje treba izvaditi, vjerojatno trebsaju i određene licence i sl.
Mi u Hrvatskoj već imamo firme koje se ozbiljno bave cryptom, pogledajte npr. startup Electrocoin i njihov ''pilot'' projekt sa Hrvatskom Poštom ili payment service ''Paycek.
Da je ova vaša ideja isplativa već bi je netko pokrenuo.



A možda nikome do sad nije palo na pamet? Mislim, tako možeš reći za bilo koji izum - da je bitan već bi ga netko izumio. Ali netko mora biti prvi.

Ja nisam rekao da se sigurno isplati. To bi trebao izračunati netko tko se bavi kriptom kao poslom. Zato sam spomenuo Bitcoin Store. Oni imaju iskustvo i dobru lokaciju - trgovački centar.

Ja osobno vjerujem da sigurno ima ljudi koji su razmatrali ovu ideju i zato sam pozvao našeg glavnog ''crypto'' businesmana, pokretača pilot projekta sa cryptom u Hrvatskoj Pošti i crypto payment servica Paycek da se javi i kaže nam što misli o toj ideji i da li će je pokrenuti.
Jedno vrijeme je bio dosta aktivan na ovom našem forumu ali pretpostavljam da je prezaposlen u zadnje vrijeme jer ga već dugo nema.
No, poslovni ljudi u svakoj priči gledaju prvenstveno poslovnu isplativost i zaradu a ne neke druge ideje potpun društvene koristi, promocije btc i sl. pa ono što je netko spomenuo, zašto bi neka poslovna ideja trebala biti isplativa već za godinu dana već može biti i za 5 godina, u poslovnom svijetu nije održivo.
Svaki poduzetnik mora plaćati tzv. ''hladni pogon'' znači troškove poslovnih prostora i režija, razne dozvole a naravno tu su i troškovi plaća, servisa i brojni drugi troškovi poput knjigovodstva, poreznih savjetnika, programera... i ako na kraju svega nije u plusu slijedi zatvaranje firme, i to je činjenica.
Znam to na žalost iz prve ruke, jer sam pokretao obrt u Hrvatskoj i firmu u V. Britaniji.
Oba puta sam morao zatvoriti i obrt i firmu jednostavno jer nismo bili u plusu i više smo trošili nego što smo zarađivali.


5468  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: October 26, 2019, 12:27:42 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196022.0

Oprez!

Kruzi scam mail vezan za Ledger wallet

Hvala na upozorenju, dobio si merit!
Tko je slijedeći? Smiley
5469  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Najbolji stablecoin on: October 26, 2019, 12:26:29 PM
Meni više godi najbolji unstable coin Bitcoin
so I just hodl baby Smiley  i ne plačem kad Bitcoin ide na dole

I ja također  Grin Grin
Najbolje ga ostaviti da se ''kiseli'' i zaboraviti na neko vrijeme a onda se vratiti i probati kada se dobro ''ukiseli''  Grin Grin
5470  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Kim Jong Un’s rode a horse to send out a message to people. on: October 25, 2019, 01:54:39 PM
It's hard for North Korea to fight American hegemony for now. If they want, even though they can be the main ally for the USA. but because of different ideologies this is not possible. I think as long as there is the United States, North Korea can never escape pressure. I am still confused today why they have not become a developed and developing country by taking the path like South Korea through the economy and technology.

First of all, it is rooted in their internal social and political relations.
In fact, in a country that is almost completely isolated from the world, private ownership does not exist, the political system is rigid communism and democracy does not exist, it is not realistic to expect people to live well and keep the economy in good shape.
5471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Jose Mourinho next Job? on: October 25, 2019, 01:47:48 PM
I heard rumors that Mourinho already had some offers but he didn't accept because those offers didn't meet his standards, like Portugal national team, Roma, Sporting, Borussia Dortmund etc.
I think he's having a good fun right now as a TV football commentator and waiting for one of his rivals at Real, Chelsea, Bayern to lose his job so he can take over as coach again.

5472  Other / Meta / Re: Merit on: October 25, 2019, 01:40:24 PM
I don't agree with you.
Check out this topic in the Croatian section, for example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4265795.0
I created it in order to help young members to earn merits for good quality posts, specially for the people who can't speak English well and don't feel comfortable to write posts in English part of the forum.
Basically, if you write good quality posts, you will receive merits.
We already have users who started from zero and now they are already legendary.
5473  Other / Meta / Re: [Achivement]Finally I am a self-made senior member! on: October 25, 2019, 01:36:11 PM
Great testimony TheUltraElite, congratulation!
I think that many users in your situation will just give up but you made great effort and contributed a lot to this forum.
Your advises are excellent and I hope that many new users will read and practice it.
Just, I don't think that many people will follow your suggestions.
Sometimes I feel that probably 50% or half people writing posts on this forum because they are in some signature campaign and trying to make some money  Grin Grin
5474  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: October 25, 2019, 01:30:51 PM
Prijava od neki dan, za Nacho Coin, plagijatorski shitcoin, kako to vec ide u kriptu svijetu, tim iza toga vec radi na novom projektu, Nacho Hash.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195215.msg52848327#msg52848327

Zanimljiv post, dobio si merit!
Tko je slijedeći? Smiley
5475  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Lightning network on: October 25, 2019, 01:29:46 PM
[...] Istina, ali ovo bi bilo baš fora postaviti u neki centar. Recimo, Bitcoin store je u City Centar East (veliki trgovački centar u ZG) i mislim da bi tamo negdje stvarno mogli postaviti ovakav uređaj. Vjerujem da ne košta puno, a klincima bi moglo biti fora jer su prošla vremena kad su klinci s 10 kuna za gablec išli u školu. Sad im 10 kuna bude ostatak na kraju dana...
Stvarno? Mozda da pogledas cijene BTC ATM machine pa malo izracunas koliko transakcije sa nekom prosijecnom vrednost bi trebale da se izvrse sa nekim malim fee-om da bi se ta machina uopste isplatila (a kamoli zaradilo nesto)...
Mislim da se tu referira na taj mini DIY BTC ATM iz clanka , cija izrada bi bila puno jeftinija od ovih standardih  full size ATM koje trenutno vidjamo.
Upravo tako. Ja sam mislio na ove uradi sam ATM-ove koji ne koštaju puno. A sad, koliko treba da se isplati... To ne znam. Ali zašto bi svaka stvar koja se uvodi trebala biti isplativa nakon godinu ili dvije. Što fali da se isplati i nakon pet godina ako si siguran da je blockchain budućnost?

Mislis da ne kosta puno da se napravi? Mozda ne na materiale, ali da vidim ko to moze da uradi (i znanje kosta). I koliko vremena ga to kosta... Pa onda jos odrzavanje toga (da vidim koliko dugo ce da stoji na mestu ako sakupi par tijedna vrednog novaca)....

A zasto "treba" biti isplatljiv? Ne znam, pitaj poduzetnika...  Roll Eyes

Mozda ti zelis svoje vreme, truda i novaca/lokaciju da ulozis...?

A da ne govorimo da i sama lokacija košta, nigdje više bankomat ne možeš postaviti besplatno,
Onda, tu su i određene dozvole koje treba izvaditi, vjerojatno trebsaju i određene licence i sl.
Mi u Hrvatskoj već imamo firme koje se ozbiljno bave cryptom, pogledajte npr. startup Electrocoin i njihov ''pilot'' projekt sa Hrvatskom Poštom ili payment service ''Paycek.
Da je ova vaša ideja isplativa već bi je netko pokrenuo.

5476  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: October 24, 2019, 06:16:50 PM
Evo i jedna moja prijava nakon duuugo vremena. Na bolovanju sam pa sam ulovio barem malo vremena za napisati ozbiljniji post. Na mobitelu dok šećem pasa to jednostavno nije moguće  Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182164.msg52863503#msg52863503

Evo ti merit nakon duuugo vremena Smiley
Hvala na informativnom postu.
Tko je slijedeći? Smiley
5477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: October 24, 2019, 01:29:30 PM
Is nobody going to talk about City easy group? 3 wins out of 3 matches, against a team like Dinamo Zagreb, etc.

This group stage is literally a walk in the park for them. They should at least have a competitor like Atletico Madrid or something.

Always a chance of an easy group when you’re in pot 1 I guess. They have had the equivalent of a Europa League group for the last 2 seasons though. All that money & they still can’t get to a semi Smiley

City have some kind of fear when they get to the 1/4 final. I don’t know why but maybe this is finally the year they get further.

I don't think so.
I think they have other problem,  luck of confidence in the big and important matches.
In Europe we have every year about 10 always the same clubs who are candidates to win CL.
But,  in the last 4-5 years we hadon't always the same winner.
How is this possible?
Why almost every time Real,  and not Barcelona with Messi or Juve or Manchester City?
Confidence and experience I guess.
5478  Local / Off-topic (Hrvatski) / Re: Politika u Hrvatskoj on: October 24, 2019, 01:22:45 PM
Ma naravno da se ne može odjednom presjeći i reći od sad svatko štedi za svoju penziju, a sadašnji penzioneri neka se snalaze. Ja sam samo napisao da je sustav neodrživ, a najveći problem kod nas je što nikoga nije briga. Barem ne one na vlasti koje bi trebalo biti briga. Oni rade razne reforme kojima mažu ljudima oči nadajući se da će izdržati svoje četiri godine...

Ja iskreno ne znam kako riješiti taj problem. Ali zato nisam na poziciji gdje bi to trebao rješavati... Samo znam da ovako nećemo još dugo moći.

Ne možeš pomoći drugima već samo sebi.
Onaj koji se nada da će mu država ili netko drugi riješiti financijske probleme,  plaću i mirovine,  jako je naivan.
Svaka vlast kod nas je zapravo "dužnik " interesnih skupina i lobija i nema "snage " da se odupre tim pritiscima i počne mijenjati trenutni sustav privilegiranih kasti u društvu.
Svaki takav pokušaj bi značio politički "harakiri " za svaku takvu vladu.
Dakle,  promjena u društvu neće biti,  plaće i mirovine će biti sve manje,  padati će i razina kvalitete javnih usluga a jedino što svatko od nas može učiniti je pobrinuti se za sebe i svoju financijsku budućnost.
Što prije to shvatite to bolje za vas.
5479  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Zbirni topic za davanje merita za kvalitetne postove on: October 24, 2019, 01:14:46 PM
Evo konačno i od mene jedan malo kvalitetniji post pa da se odmah i prijavim Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4986169.msg52861650#msg52861650

Merit za "malo kvalitetniji " post 😀
Tko je slijedeći  😀
5480  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Lightning network on: October 24, 2019, 10:32:37 AM
[...] Istina, ali ovo bi bilo baš fora postaviti u neki centar. Recimo, Bitcoin store je u City Centar East (veliki trgovački centar u ZG) i mislim da bi tamo negdje stvarno mogli postaviti ovakav uređaj. Vjerujem da ne košta puno, a klincima bi moglo biti fora jer su prošla vremena kad su klinci s 10 kuna za gablec išli u školu. Sad im 10 kuna bude ostatak na kraju dana...

Stvarno? Mozda da pogledas cijene BTC ATM machine pa malo izracunas koliko transakcije sa nekom prosijecnom vrednost bi trebale da se izvrse sa nekim malim fee-om da bi se ta machina uopste isplatila (a kamoli zaradilo nesto)...


Mislim da se tu referira na taj mini BTC ATM iz clanka , koji sigurno ne bi bas trebao kostati kao ovi standardni full size ATM koje trenutno vidjamo.

Znam da nas povremeno prati i Nikola Skoric vlasnik firme koja je s poštom sklopila onaj deal o prodaji crypta.
Nikola,  nadam se da ovo čitaš i da nam možeš dati točnu računicu o isplativosti ili neisplativosti takvog BTC ATM uređaja.
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