Ponzi and HYIP are not safe for your money,,, use it by trading altcoin in altcoin exchanger
why trading altcoin ?
because we can manage it fully . when you will buy or sell its defend to you . you wanna make big profit, surely it will take your cost big also
Especially trading in the crowded place will giving a different feel, because the rotation of the price is very fast and you can getting a daily basis for your profit and trading is always become the best way compared with another way for growing your bitcoin in this time. I agree, no to investing in ponzis or hyips anymore. Their promised income gets worst or too good to be true as time passes to attract more investors. Only a fool will believe them. I would rather do altcoin trading. Although some of altcoins nowadays sre scam but with the right knowledge and research you can grow your bitcoin safely from it. Yeah, ponzi,hyips and cloud mining are all just the same which are all scams in the long run. Based on the op's earning its not enough on making investments but he can save up so that he would able to expand more or engage on some investment. As others said trading would be good. |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling?
Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
If it is not prohibited or banned by the staff members of this forum then we can obviously not do anything about it except not doing it ourselves if we don't like it, or to tell others not to do it otherwise they will get negative trust from your side, it may somehow prevent users to sell or buy accounts, but i think that wont work as well unless admins take any actions against this. its really hard to stop someone who sold their accounts to anybody. That's right, but for stopping the trading of account in this forums is always possible for to do that, but maybe will happen a new transaction is on the outside from this place. maybe someone is having any ideas for this? For sure they would transact outside this forum. As i said no matter how we stop these transaction people would still find a way to sold their account to others because they want money or to have income with just selling with those accounts that they farmed for a long time. Forum cant stop this actually. Maybe that's right, all forum can do is to close the sub-forum for auctions so that no one could do that again but that sub-forum is not actually made for this purpose but it is for auctioning other things, so even if the forum tries to stop this they would get failed because people would start doing it in PMs or group chats outside the forum. That's right but you can seeing about the topic in meta there are a many spammer is making a lot of bctalk account just for making a spam and become a farming account and very bad to hear that. Spamming accounts and farmed account is different regarding with their post acount you would see the difference of it actually. Farmed account are usually be ready on sale when they have the right amount of potential activity on the account and price depend on the potential rank. But sad to say but forum itself can't stop these things that's why they don't have care at all. |
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Not now, not the good time.
Because bitcoin still has developmental hurdles it has to overcome to really hit big.
So you mean those who are quitting their job because they are earning great money doing trading in bitcoin is not making the wise decision. I think quitting is good if you know you have the advantage that would give you a stable income, if you can make consistent in trading betting on the fluctuation of bitcoin your going full time is worth your decision. Yeah if you are managing to earn higher income from bitcoin in compare to you full time job there is nothing wrong in quitting the job and getting full time in bitcoins. Thats the exact thing that we must consider before we decide to switch on full time to bitcoin. We must make it sure first because if you switch in hurry without any preparations and the source of income is not stable then dont compromise your job since its too risky if you proceed. Yeah you need to do proper homework before taking any decision as once you quit your job it will be very difficult to get back to full time job, so you should be aware and confident that how much you can earn from bitcoin regularly. Of course, it is not a simple decision in quitting your job, especially when you have a family that depends on your. Our job provides us stable income but we are not satisfied with the amount we are receiving therefore we risk to going full time with bitcoin as it can give us more income than what we are currently enjoying now, but the risk is too high so we need to evaluate carefully. Exactly, its a very high risk to take as we would be earning good from bitcoins at present but still there is always an risk of bitcoin getting disappeared in future. True, even how promising the income it was on Bitcoin we must really think carefully because leaving your work would not be an easy decision especially if you are relying only on your stable day job because we don't know what would be the trend on Bitcoins price in the future but the decision really depends on us. |
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Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?
According To Me Firstly Invest The Money in Various Projects and Then Start Saving The Profit You Got From Your Investment Made In Various Projects..... by This Way You Can Save and Also Invest..... I am agree with this that first we should invest our money. because saving at this point when bitcoin price is stable from almost 4 months and there wasn't any good price increase movement doesn't make sense.. but the problem is if we invest then invest where? If I get a good source of investment I would definitely invest my money. and then I'll collect all my ROI time to time. Agree, investing your money would be better rather than saving itself because you won't make it any bigger anytime soon but if you risk to grow it then search for good investment and that's the time you save on the profits you made, just same as others said and if you want to expand and aim to gain more then it's up to you. |
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I think if bitcoin will moved above $10.000 USD per coin it will bring the economic collapse. Many bitcoin holders will try to cash out their money to not skip such good chance to get rich. How many users of bitcoin now? There is no so much money in the world to satisfy that interest. So I hope bitcoin will not rise too much.
At that point Bitcoin will be too strong to fall, some people may think is the top, but a lot other people think 100.000+ can be achieved in the next 10 years. You have a point, if Bitcoins price would reach $10k then maybe all large Bitcoin holders for sure would sell all their Bitcoin holdings and which causes to dump again Bitcoin to lower price thinking that price is the peak but as you said some still believe to go much higher price than that. |
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0.1 btc is not big money and if you dont want to make money with it you can go some place with your girlfriend you can eat and you can drink but if you want to make money with 0.1 btc you can use it in investment or you can make bet .
Haha thats a good idea but i think he is asking for investement because he can take his girlfriend some place for dinner by using his fiat cash and he is asking specially about bitcoin.Well i would advice you to just hold them because it is not a big amount to do some invetement with it and try to collect some more btc. For sure he really wants to invest to be able to grow his Bitcoins. 0.1 btc would be still a good capital on doing altcoin trading but it's not easy because you would need to be knowledgeable on alts so that there's a possibility that you can make it grow your btc in no time. Better study first before you decide to invest in. |
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A lot of people are already in to the Bitcoin community but bitcoin is not yet known generally to other people. What are the things you usually say when people ask what Bitcoin is? We generated ten things about Bitcoin that will make people believe and support the cryptocurrency, you can check it out on the link below: Ten things about Bitcoins that will make you become a believer and supporterWe would like to hear comments and additions from you to help convince beginners or other people to embrace and use the crypto technology. In relation to what you mention as the transaction fees being miniscule, I guess this would be the one that would convince my friends to use bitcoin. Being an overseas worker, we always send our family and relatives some money once or twice a month and a minimal transaction fee would be a big help because it would mean bigger money that our family and relatives will received. Not having the need to go to a money exchange after work is just a relief and sending money anytime and anywhere whenever we wanted is favorable for us. Money transfer is one of the benefits on using bitcoin, as you said the transaction fee is small compared to bank or other remittances out there and also the transaction time on transfer is more faster and its just a matter of click and you dont be hassled in lining up just to transfer funds to your family especially when you are in abroad. Bitcoin is really a big help with this matter. That's true bitcoin is really the best when it comes to money transfers as it involves minimum fees and its far better in compare to other payment systems. Using Bitcoin as a tool to send payments from point A to point B is the best when it comes to speed and the very low cost. But if people are looking to cash out their coins to fiat, then things look different as the fee structure will take up at least 0.5-1% of the total transaction value. It does have difference but the fee in exchanging btc to fiat isnt big afterall and you wouldnt feel it when everytime you exchange i guess. Bitcoin has many usefull things not only on transfering funds but all its accessibility to do transactions fast like buying something online by the use of bitcoin it really gives us convenience. %1 as fee for converting BTC to fiat might not look like much, but with large amounts it will add up. If you cash out $10,000 worth of BTC, then 1% is $100 in fees that you will lose. And if you do a lot of such transactions in a month, then you might come close to $1000 in fees in a month. As if you are a very rich person since you almost withdraw almost $10000 which is a very big amount already how much more if you do it 10x a day then you are truly rich even you spend %1 in each transfer you wont matter anyway that amount since you own lots of money and it cost less compared to other transfers, right? |
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Should we answer that? Why do you think we are all here? Just to waste our time for nothing? It is definitely clear to you and to all of us that bitcoin is worthy enough to spend our time with. It is part of my daily routine to check my little investments, to check my bitcoin wallet and to make sure that I have logged in here. I would not waste my time if bitcoin is not worthy ofnour time and attention. Just like why you are here right now.
Same here, that's why we are here because Bitcoin is important to us and also it's a money which we really needs to somewhat able to support some of our daily needs. Bitcoin does help many people already especially to those have problem on financial state and some to those which don't have any job at all. Very true, we are not here on this forum if bitcoin is not important to you because you wont not have interest at all in bitcoin but we have to thank that this project has been made because there are lots of people are helped by bitcoin not only to its accessibility but also its another way of source of income. |
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i think you should have starting investment at mining sites and investment site with insurance . I have heard about insurance by a friend which is offer by a bulk trader . he willtake 25% your profit .if site ran away he will return your capital .
In my opinion mate, I really don't trust in that kind of system, I would rather trade on my own and let the outcome be base on my decision, there is actually no assurance that a certain services will return your money once they will not succeed in trading using your investment. I would say that the trade is not going to give you a fixed income. but if you do not like to cooperate with third parties to invest because you're afraid will be a scam and it will count against you. I think it's not a problem. you can try other methods. I was not really concerned with a steady income. the most important thing I have great income The outcome is conditional, if you can consistently make money in trading that would only be the time that you call trading is the way to steady income, however in most cases that is not happening as a trader we also have our bad day and we also experience loses. Doing trading does not guarantee you always a steady income as you said you may suffer also losing trades always, it really depends on how you trade and depending on the movement of price which are the factors that affects the results on your daily trading no matter how experience trader you are , you would definitely experience lose trades. |
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I wouldn't know really what to do with that many bitcoins.  I never owned that much before or held that much in one wallet before. Investing with it would possibly be the most sensible option to do with it too have it grow for you. It is better to invest first and after the shaft of your income differences can safely spend money on your needs. Well you must be specific on what kind of investment you are going to do with that 10 bitcoin. For me I am going to invest in trading maybe 1 bitcoin and the rest or half will be invested in mining rig. I think I am going to invest 7-8 bitcoin for mining rig. And the rest which is 1 bitcoin would be enough for holding for a long time. Mining isnt profitable nowadays unless if you have cheap electricity on your country or free energy then you would reach roi fastly but if electricity is expensive then you must think twice because all of expenses would be equal to your profits which means you dont gain at all which is very useless. |
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Just do accept that we are losing in the long run, we are just an ordinary people and we do not belong to the special people who are making money in gambling if there is one. I myself, have already accepted a long time ago that gambling is hard job to do.
Good thing that you were to realize that gambling really is a tough job. But we should always remember that those professional gamblers was also like us before yet i think most of them strive hard to become what they are right now And the good thing with them is they have a lot of money to try on their way to being professional but we do not have that kind of resources, real gamblers are real risk takers some of them succeed but majority of them failed. And when the real gamblers are taking risk for their money. But in the end sadly they are just losing their money. The real winner with gambling are only the house edge because it is business and if we are going to talk about business it means that they also want to get profit rather than they are going to let the gamblers win. Well, thats commonsense because gambling is a business and no owners like to experience bankruptcy in their investment which we can expect that gambler would lose in the end on playing gambling. Some may win but mostly gamblers are lossers and that thing are just common. TO me only those gamblers loses in the long run who have no strategy of gambling, who always play gambling with all their money they have, and they have no limits of gambling, but those gamblers who are playing in a special manner and having limit for their win and lost they always remain safe, Remain safe? I don't think so if you are goin to ask your fellow gamblers then tell me again if they are. Most of them do always says that there is no really thing called being safe in gambling. For sure they would really said the same thing which is they suffer much more losses than winning on playing gambling and that things is just as expected since gambling is designed on business purposes no matter how provably fair they are they have still the edge on winning against to their players which is the sad reality. |
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My aim in gambling is always making profit everyday, even it's only a few satoshi. But i always greedy and can't control my self on gambling, someday i will reach my aim.
There's no other aim in gambling, I don't really see other reasons why we gamble except for profit... Fun is only the second aim in gambling and actually it's not an aim, only an unexpected result... If a gambler aims for the entertainment in gambling houses, I think they will waste their money, mostly if you are happy it's just fine for you that your money is gone... I'm sure most gambler here also gamble for profit and profit is their aim. Gambling is not fun when you lose your money. Every people have their own aim though. I really believe so, it so hypocrite for saying they gamble for the sake of fun and how about if they lose? Do they still fulfi the fun thing they said if they are seeing there money is about to drain and soon will be left nothing? For all i see here all gamblers aiming to gain some profit maybe the fun thing they say is when they see their winning will getting more lot bigger and bigger and im sure we all have the same aim here. You are correct, the fun and entertainment usually gamblers say is definitely when they are experiencing winning streaks and no fool would be happy if they saw their bank roll is being raped up and fastly draining and thats not fun anymore. Thats why we play gambling because the motive for profit is there always. |
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My strategy in gambling is to play in sports betting since it's skill based, and betting on top teams on a popular league/tournament may guarantee you some money if you're smart enough.  Betting on top teams could increase the winning chance but there is no way to make guaranteed profit even sports betting too, sports betting is mostly based on our skill and how wise we are to pick the option fro betting, sports betting is also my favorite form for gambling so that I can say this it has good chance to make profit. of course noone can guarantee you can make profit , but at least with this choosing favorites club strategy in sportsbetting i guess it is better than gambling blindly , it has a low odds or multiplier but it has a better chance , bet for top teams or top player are a reasonable strategy than any other strategies. yeah, its better to bet on sports than to play other gambling games which you are blindly playing same as you said. Sports betting could have the possiblity to increase your chance you winning rate if you are knowledgeable enough to those teams or players you bet it would not make a guarantee win always but the possibility is high. |
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You are just right, bitcoin is sometimes rising, sometimes decreasing... but recovering again. I hope more people use it over time, so the price can find stability.
Yeah if more people are going to buy bitcoins and going to keep on using bitcoin for sure the price of bitcoin is going to increase. And of course you are not going to do something but you are just going to hold it until the price is going to reach your desired price. But you are not helping the ecosystem of bitcoin if you are not going to use any single bitcoin. that is the big adoption that we are looking for to see and it will take a much longer time with all these stops and dips in the road so we have to wait and spread the word so that we can help speed up this adoption process and price will rise after that. If we could really fasten the way to promote bitcoin to the whole world would be possible but its really difficult since not all of us have the knowledge in techy things and even some countries didnt even heard the word bitcoin thats why it would take time to spread the word. |
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Ponzi and HYIP are not safe for your money,,, use it by trading altcoin in altcoin exchanger
why trading altcoin ?
because we can manage it fully . when you will buy or sell its defend to you . you wanna make big profit, surely it will take your cost big also
Even Trading altcoin is not a risk free method to earn money but it is still better than any ponzi hyipe site, and any cloud mining site, and any gambling sites. all these are 100% lost of money, I never see someone who became rich by investing in cloudmining or ponzi sites. Correct,even altcoin trading has also the risk on losing your money but you could possibly lessen it when you trade smartly and make such good decisions in buying and selling. Hyips and ponzi sites are really just a waste of your money because these sites are all scam and just wanted to get money for their investors who usually fool on high returns which is very impossible. all have the potential to be lost. but lose in trading can be an advantage, you just must have patience and a good strategy. if you do not have it all, you will certainly always lose as in gambling. nothing is really safe, but trading is safer than all the way to grow. Very precisely, that losing is inevitable from trading, gambling, investing, etc. We just have to be patient to confront whatever it brings, because of our not forever losing or lost, so keep trying and have high spirits to change life for the better than now and could be useful for everyone when you are engage on trading, patience is one of the most important things because you would already know what to do and you just wait for the right time to buy or sell your coins because if you are short tempered then it might be the cause of lose trades because if you are in a hurry you cant think calmly on the things you must suppose to do. |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling?
Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
If it is not prohibited or banned by the staff members of this forum then we can obviously not do anything about it except not doing it ourselves if we don't like it, or to tell others not to do it otherwise they will get negative trust from your side, it may somehow prevent users to sell or buy accounts, but i think that wont work as well unless admins take any actions against this. its really hard to stop someone who sold their accounts to anybody. That's right, but for stopping the trading of account in this forums is always possible for to do that, but maybe will happen a new transaction is on the outside from this place. maybe someone is having any ideas for this? For sure they would transact outside this forum. As i said no matter how we stop these transaction people would still find a way to sold their account to others because they want money or to have income with just selling with those accounts that they farmed for a long time. Forum cant stop this actually. |
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Hi guys, so as the title says i have applied to 3 sig camping and all of them got rejected i don't get it ? why am getting rejected ? There are newbies just joined the forum and have 8 or less post counts and they are getting accepted over me   Most of your posts were one line , and would be rejected with manager if you enrolled on their campaign . Better to build up your quality post and ranked up your account for easily sign up on signature campaign. The length of his posts have nothing to do with the quality of it. You can post a single sentence and still be on topic and still be constructive. There are people here posting long lines just to make it look like constructive, it's not. OP has no control over his rank. The only thing he can do is be active (which he isn't anymore as I write this post) and wait for the time until his activity count is sufficient enough to get a decent income from signature campaigns. Agree, even you've made long liner post and the thought and the answer doesnt connect to topic then it's still useless and not constructive. It's Better to make half assessed one liners as long it's relevant to topic and contributed to the op then it's a constructive one,same as you said. |
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Let's say I generate a new address and by some miracle it has Bitcoin already in it belonging to somebody else. Is it legal to just take it? I understand those odds are very low, no need to lecture me, I'm just interested.
Stealing is always stealing, no matter what if this is cryptocurrency or teaddy bear or candy. Its forbidden by law and pursued by authorities. So just dont. I don't think in the law is listed about stealing the magic is tested by op, maybe if that is applied to a real situation it's correct but we need to considering the secondary things of the op's situation. OP does not steal bitcoin to someone else he just generate a new bitcoin wallet and he got the address with free bitcoin balance that is why he say that is miracle i do not see the form of stealing in that scenario. correct me if i am wrong. He made this thread just to get opinion to others because he didn't expect to generate a new address with there's already Bitcoin into it which is probably owned by someone already. He ask question about stealing because he might intend to get those Bitcoin on newly generated address. |
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Just trust yourself. The result still about your luck.
Yeah I agree with you you must trust yourself for having your own strategy. Every gamblers has their own rituals before they are going to gamble. And if you believe that it is the best way to attract luck to be with you as you gamble and that is going to be your strategy at all. Still luck is going to predict your winnings. I agree with this, everything in gambling is about luck. The center and goal of creating strategies is to increase the chances of us getting lucky. This is done by proper bankroll management, creating sessions, and pre-planned betting. Of course, there is really no sure win strategies but at least you get more chances of winning than by just doing the random betting. No matter how good you are in making some strategies and observations you still end the same result and those techniques just been used to sustain or able to do longer game time but still end up losing. With strategy or no strategy at all would still based on how lucky you are on that day and that thing I surely believe. |
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Ponzi and HYIP are not safe for your money,,, use it by trading altcoin in altcoin exchanger
why trading altcoin ?
because we can manage it fully . when you will buy or sell its defend to you . you wanna make big profit, surely it will take your cost big also
Even Trading altcoin is not a risk free method to earn money but it is still better than any ponzi hyipe site, and any cloud mining site, and any gambling sites. all these are 100% lost of money, I never see someone who became rich by investing in cloudmining or ponzi sites. Correct,even altcoin trading has also the risk on losing your money but you could possibly lessen it when you trade smartly and make such good decisions in buying and selling. Hyips and ponzi sites are really just a waste of your money because these sites are all scam and just wanted to get money for their investors who usually fool on high returns which is very impossible. |
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