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5461  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Official BitBay Thread |Smart Contracts Wallet UPDATE|Decentralized Marketplace on: January 12, 2015, 09:31:11 PM

when I lost 100K BLK through not keeping multiple backups

Ouch.

That must have hurt a bit.
5462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 07:56:23 PM

Thanks !

Shame Mintpal's away. That was a good exchange for DRK.
5463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 07:24:14 PM
cex.io + BTER had big volumes in the last rushes going
they should have some supply too if you are looking

I checked BTER and they seem to have nothing (but maybe I'm not seeing the full order book).

cex.io: ...hey ! That's a nice looking exchange. I didn't know about it.

5464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 07:05:03 PM

It looks to me like there's a bit of a supply problem with DRK. (i.e. market supply not coin supply).

As far as I can see there's about 6000 DRK for sale in the known universe and its almost all on Cryptsy.

Bitfinex has less than 300 which could be due to 'hidden orders' except for the fact that it appears to have spiked up to 0.00634 this afternoon on a volume of a mere 90 DRK.

That's what I was saying earlier about liquidity - there is none. It's all tied up in masternodes where people are earning money with their DRK. As soon as there's the slightest bit of demand for this coin the valuation looks like it might fly. All that's being traded right now is granular DRK.

5465  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 07:01:18 PM
maybe he ment infamous ?  Tongue

Well they say 'all publicity is good publicity'.
5466  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 06:55:06 PM

Thanks, man! I will soon be posting your 101 post to my website. I'm going to make you famous again!

LoL ! ...when was I 'famous' the last time ?
5467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 05:54:10 PM

The Darkcoin Chameleon and The Darkcoin Twitter PR Initiative aim to please...

I must say you guys are quite awesome in your dedication and output.

Masternode guides, Bitcoin Rush, Promo activities & reachouts etc etc. (Only 1 small problem, when I type Bitcoin Rush, google thinks I'm looking for Bitcoin Rush Limbaugh !  Cheesy )

Major hat tips (and blockchain tips).

5468  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 02:09:29 PM

http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/sendchat-brings-darkcoin-to-50-million-telegram-users

Now the SendChat has officially accepted DRK ARE GOING TO THE MOON!?!

Wow. This is huge.

50 million registered users ? That's almost the population of the entire UK.

How did DRK get into this ?
5469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 11:55:24 AM

What I don't understand is how you predict stuff.  That's a voodoo, I don't think I'm capable of understanding, LOL

No - you're totally capable of understanding it and it's not voodoo, only I wouldn't quite call it "prediction" otherwise I'd be a millionaire.

I'll try and do another 101 on that when I get a moment !
5470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
Here you go...

I have absolutely ZERO understanding of what you say, toknormal

Here's a quick 101 for you Tante.

There are (broadly speaking) 2 types of money in the fiat system:

[1] - base money

[2] - credit money

Base money is brought into existence by a central bank which issues a certain amount of, lets day, 'dollars'. Credit money is brought into existence when a commercial bank borrows base money from the 'Fed' and lends it out to commercial customers at an interest rate greater than the base rate (thats how they make money).

Clearly, the amount of credit money in existence depends on how active the economy is because people borrow more when there's a lot of activity to finance new projects. (Think of it as the economy 'pulling' the pink bubble out the way). Note that interest continuously accrues on all the credit money in existence (even if the base rate is zero as it almost is now under ZIRP conditions) so an outer 'debt' ring will form around that big pink bubble.

The size of the pink bubble relative to the blue centre grows according to the fractional reserve ratio. i.e. commercial banks have to keep around 8% of "blue stuff" in relation to all the "pink stuff" they lend out. If the economy doesn't grow fast enough, central banks try to grow the size of the BLUE CIRCLE and reduce the base rate in the hope that it will make it easier for the pink bubble to grow and catch up with the "interest debt ring'. (A process known as 'quantitative easing', QE). Clearly this requires co-operation from the economy itself otherwise it is (as many have remarked) like "pushing on a piece of string".

The distance between the outer edge of the solid pink bubble and the 'interest debt ring' represents the minimum amount the economy must grow to cover the interest on the ongoing credit money supply. Central banks are usually under instructions from their respective governments to keep inflation at 2% (Note: there is retail price inflation and there is monetary inflation - the size of the pink bubble - which may not be the same thing).

PROBLEMS

Hopefully, you can now see straight away what the dangers are and what must be avoided at all costs:

[1] - DEFLATION. Because if the pink bubble shrinks, there isn't enough credit money in existence to cover all the interest liabilities in existence and DEFAULTS will occur. (Referring to the diagram, the pink circle won't grow enough reach the outer 'interest debt ring' in a year). This affects CONFIDENCE which underpins the whole house of cards and must not be compromised at any cost (hence tha bailouts)

[2] - HYPER INFLATION of the pink bubble. Because that destroys the value of credit money and causes the size of the "interest debt ring" to run away - same result as above but through a different route.


WHY JAPAN, US, EUROPE AND CHINA ARE ALL DIFFERENT

JAPAN: is headed for HYPER INFLATION because they keep expanding the monetary base (blue circle) but the pink bubble isn't getting any bigger and the economy is stagnatin.

EUROPE: is currently heading for DEFLATION (in fact as of last week, it is now officially deflating) because the Germans won't let Mario Draghi start expanding the money base as they have adverse memories of carting their wages around in wheelbarrows. Mr Draghi would really like to start European QE though and he's frustrated with the Germans over it. That's why Greece is a headache for everybody because the southern European countries are up to their eyeballs in debt and need a central bank to keep their interest rates low buy buying their bonds. Greece just makes everybody nervous and increases the risk premiums on their debt making things even worse for countries like Spain, Italy and France.

US: The US has completed such an enormous program of QE that they've now expanded the "blue circle" to 4 times its 2008 size but again, without really having much effect on the economy which is why they are not able to raise interest rates otherwise they'll "push" that outer interest debt ring further away out of reach of the pink bubble. QE is still going on but hidden in the form of "carry trades". That's where Japan does all the money printing and banks borrow Yen and buy US treasury bonds with it, pocketing the difference between the yield on their US bonds and the interest on their Japanese loans. (Note that the Bank of Japan announced it's massive increase in QE the day after the US Fed announced the 'end' to their QE. Ergo, QE is still going on but the baton has been passed to the Bank of Japan who have been under the "US thumb" since the end of World War 1).

RUSSIA/CHINA: Here, the exact opposite of what is happening in the West is going on. The Russians and Chinese have been buying gold for the last 4-5 years. Russia's sovereign debt level is tiny compared to the West. This is why a potential catastrophe is on the cards because all the Chinese have to do to break the western banking system is to start putting pressure on western debt. There are a number of ways they can do this - impose a gold standard of their own (they are already well on the way with the new "Brics" banking system), dump their huge holdings of US Treasuries etc. They do not want to do this just yet though because the west is a huge market for them so they're busy developing their own economies so they have more of an internal market and are less reliant on the west. This is what's behind a lot of the tension at East / West flashpoints such as the Ukraine and Turkey.

WHERE DOES CRYPTO COME INTO ALL OF THIS

Crypto, by definition, is UNLEVERED BASE MONEY. That means it belongs in the BLUE CIRCLE in the diagram below. It cannot be destroyed by a banking crash or economic crisis the way credit money can. This is why banks see it as a huge threat right now because in a bank run, crypto is a potential safe haven from a credit crunch. Of course, most people don't yet realise this because crypto just isn't mature enough, but ironically, banks do realise it and are trying to keep a lid on it (see, for example https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/sparkasse-bank-blocks-bitcoin-related-bank-transfers ).


5471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 11:17:26 AM
Oh forget it, BTC is pretty low right now... shoot, wish I had money to buy (bangs head on desk)!

Things are generally priced relative to Bitcoin because alts don't have very well established independent USD markets.

If you look at http://coinmarketcap.com you'll see that, relative to BItcoin, DRK is up. i.e. BTC is down 2.87% but DRK is only down 0.21% which means that DRK is down relative to the US dollar but up relative to BTC.

The chart I posted is the DRK / BTC ratio which is what I'm always interested in. I never bother with the USD market because it doesn't tell you anything (unless your about to buy with fiat of course). I haven't bought anything with fiat for nearly 2 years and anyway, what's important re. DRK's progress is it's standing relative to other cryptos.

P.S. I've got something for you - I'll post it in a minute. I was going to post it tonight as I thought you'd be asleep but since you're not....if you're finding it hard to sleep you'll not have any problem just shortly  Wink
5472  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 11:01:39 AM

That 2,000 shot was mine.  Interesting to see whether the price sticks even slightly above 0.006...

Have you not got enough coins already ? Leave some for the poor escaping Litecoin punters  Wink

You must have a stuffed bagfull. More masternodes ?
5473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 10:40:21 AM

Darkcoin on the move folks !

Countering BTC devaluation. DRK is the one to be in !


5474  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 12, 2015, 08:24:57 AM

It was me Wink

Ah ! So it was.

Thanks for the heads up splawik.
5475  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you are waiting for the "despair phase" to buy like in 2011 consider this on: January 12, 2015, 02:46:21 AM

My consortium has purchased several accounts from bullish posters in the past several months.

What do you need "established accounts for" ?
5476  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you are waiting for the "despair phase" to buy like in 2011 consider this on: January 12, 2015, 02:39:33 AM

i bought this account from the original bulltard idiot who owned it, because he had lost all his money and was desperate!

Really.
5477  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you are waiting for the "despair phase" to buy like in 2011 consider this on: January 12, 2015, 02:10:01 AM

And you're essentially an idiot.

Actually a disillusioned one who jumped on the bandwagon after all the hard work was done and is now throwing his toys out of the pram cos he didn't get rich quick enough.

every time people start to give up on a bubble, that means another is coming soon Cheesy We only had to shake the weak hands first.

Just remember that, if the fundamentals haven't changed, then we are still good.
5478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 11, 2015, 11:42:45 PM

******** Amber Alert **********

The BTC/USD market has been wild in the last hour. I can't describe it as anything other than an all out pitched battle between bulls and bears for supremacy.

20, 40 and 90 BTC shots were simply being hurled at the enemy in both directions and exploding in spectators faces. Laptop cooling fans kicked into hovercraft mode as Bitcoinwisdom's javascript tried to redraw the order book at a resolution of anything better than an allout blur.

Meanwhile the DRK/BTC ratio appears to be compensating somewhat for the sink rate. The 4-hour momentum broke positive on the 9th of January and although it hasn't been that visible to anyone watching the price, the underlying movement is there as shorter range charts diverge again to the upside today.

As another astute DRK market observer pointed out earlier in the thread (apologies - I forgot who it was, please remind me) the 1-week MACD posted its first green block since late June recently, so the valuation is hard packed with a third of the coin supply now tied up in masternodes.

As I remarked before, I think we are entering a key time for ** everything **. Not just cryptos but the financial system as a whole. Lets see what happens when markets open tomorrow - Japan, Greece, European deflation, France, central banks losing control - it's all starting to get volatile.

I urge DRKers to read this article as we must remain one of the most informed crypto communities on the planet to steer this ship through safe waters.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113267/the-drum-beat-of-deflation-is-growing-louder-the-intermarket-picture

I realise it's not everyone's cup of tea, even though stuff like this that connects crypto with the 'real world' financial system is like a friday night with a bottle of Rioja and the 50th rerun of Butch Cassidy & the Sundance kid to me. All the same it's quite a rare and very informative view of things from a crypto perspective and worth reading I think.

To me the landscape is looking good for DRK. The tech's succeeding, the masternode idea worked - there's tons of them. Evan got another stripe. The valuation is solid. Most of the competition have given up and those that haven't remain well out of range of our marketcap.

We are becoming fertile ground again.

The only compass direction left is north !
5479  Economy / Speculation / Re: If you are waiting for the "despair phase" to buy like in 2011 consider this on: January 11, 2015, 10:56:34 PM

So maybe delusional bulls will finally see the truth and stop losing money on a shitty investment thinking that the market will finally turn around during the "despair" phase?

What's the alternative? That I want to manipulate the market in order to buy cheap coins?
Sure, whatever. I just can't wait.

These arguments are superfluous. Clearly, both points of view apply in some respect.

12 months ago, Bitcoin was overvalued as an investment but undervalued as a technology.

As an investment it lost value this year. But as a technology there isn't much disagreement - even amongst the most hardened media trolls - that it is the future and it isn't hard to see why.

Up till now it's been impossible to create a monetary token that is electronic without being reproducible. It's simply the nature of electronic media that "copy & paste" rules and that has made it a huge challenge to create any kind of token that could be considered as tradable in such a way that it could not be counterfeited. The so called "electronic money" we use on a day to day basis isn't money. it's just a counterparty held balance that changes according to the instructions of other authoritative counterparties ("banks" to me & you).

With the invention of blockchain technology, the counterparty is no longer needed in the loop. This solves two problems that "tulips" never had a hope in hell of solving:

[1] - it provides the basis for an unbacked, unlevered electronic monetary base which, given that most of the worlds markets have moved from a physical to an electronic platform over the last century, is an inevitable consequence of modern technology

[2] - in principle, it makes the counterparty system redundant (I say in 'principle' because email didn't make the post office redundant, it just created a whole new medium where the post office was non existent)

Make no mistake. A technology which solves both those problems at once is of immense value - both practical and financial. Just look at the pain and anguish that was the common currency known as the Euro. And yet a couple of decades later we have a common currency that is self managing, doesn't require agonising years of debate between states and that is not enforced on anybody yet freely available to everybody.

Whether you think Bitcoin is "IT" or not, the technology is out of the bag and here to stay. As it happens, I think Bitcoin is now far enough down the line that it isn't now going to ever go away. The current valuation is fine - it's 300% to 400% what it was 18 months ago but what most people don't see if huge amount of infrastructure development that's gone on this year which will start to bear fruit now. It may not be some huge explosion - email wasn't, it just crept up on everyone until we were all using it.

To compare Bitcoin with tulips is a bit like comparing a modern aeroplane wing with a plank of wood. Yes - in some respects the comparison holds, but the only people who cite it as being significant are those with no clue of what makes one fly and the other not.

Cryptocurrencies will fly because they solve a huge problem - one that most people don't even realise they have yet because they've lived with it for so long. It  requires the supporting infrastructure to be advanced enough for mass adoption to take place, but take place it will.

5480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] Darkcoin | First Anonymous Coin | Inventor of X11, DGW and Darksend | Instant TX on: January 11, 2015, 08:21:33 PM

In regards to the recent discussion, do you guys really think this coin will be NSA proof?  If so, I suspect you will be disappointed.  Their resources are too vast at this point.

To properly test that thesis for this or any other anonymous coin we'd need the co-operation of the NSA itself.

I won't hold my breath  Wink
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