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5461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Jamel Herring vs Shakur Stevenson on: October 12, 2021, 08:49:06 AM
in some bookies, it is only 5x now for herring. but bitsler is listing it as 6x. not bad for those who want to bet on him. that's a very good winning in case herring will win. herring has more experience and a good record also. so wondering why bookies are siding heavily on shakur with the odds. is that because of the age factor? but it has been proven that age is just a number in a lot of boxing matches in the previous years. anyway, for those who are rooting for herring, this is a very good chance for you to multiply your bet in case he will win this match.

Bookies have placed Shakur Stevenson as the favorite maybe because of age and a bit of disparity in talent, I mean Shakur is now groomed to be one of Top Rank's cash cows being an olympian there is always hype on him.

Yup, that's it mate, we all know how good Top Rank is promoting their fighter, to be the next cash cow like Shakur. But the kid doesn't have the knock out power though, and I see this as "issue" for him to be the next cash cow.

But bookies could also be wrong because as far as I remember with the Herring vs Carl Framton fight, they also have placed the latter as the favorite but Herring defeated Carl so that was sort of an upset. With Shakur not so experienced yet I think the chance of an upset is high so that 6.xx odds is so tempting and attractive.

Correct, he was the underdog with the Frampton fight, but he completely annihilate and score knock downs and win the fight with stoppage if my memory serves me right. So that 6.x odds is very attractive specially for those who love to go on the underdogs.
5462  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitmain Confirms Halting Its Shipment of Antminers to Chinese Customers,why on: October 12, 2021, 08:08:36 AM
As far as I can remember, as early as 2017-2018, Bitmain has already a plan B in case the Chinese government put a ban on mining or anything related to crypto. It is somewhere located to US, in Texas of all the places.

Perhaps they are slowly moving out of China, or maybe would remain their production but not full 100% as the government might change their mind and even attack Bitmain for all good reasons (manufacturing).
5463  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Scam QR API bitcoinqrcodemaker.com on: October 11, 2021, 11:58:12 PM
^^ Good, I still haven't got any reply from Namecheap though, it seems that we really need more users to report this to them and put some pressure to really bring down this website.

But I'm not surprised by the slow response though, typically it might takes weeks to get even one reply to them. So I will wait before I make a follow up email.
5464  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the bitcoin going to burst anytime soon on: October 11, 2021, 11:40:10 PM
Typical banker argument against bitcoin. But we have heard this kind of argument before, specially after the burst in 2018, but look at the current price, it goes x3 of the last all time high. Maybe he is right, it might burst anytime soon, but bitcoin has the resiliency to come back and recover.

So it's just a matter of timing, it's not like the tulip bubble wherein it didn't recover after it was burst. And that's why I don't find the analogy between bitcoin bubble and the tulip mania so convincing because it's a different scenario.
5465  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Nano Shiba Inu! Rebase coin! on: October 11, 2021, 11:18:19 PM
The question is where SHIB token was coming from if your project didn't have actual product that generates active income to be distributed to nano shib holders? your marketing trick was so bad. Rebase token was also a very bad mechanism. I have seen that if almost all of rebase tokens have become scammy token. Rebase token will never have good performance. You can see ampleforth and base token if you didn't believe me.

The rebase token for the shitcoin will not work and it doesn't make sense if shit coin needs to become a rebase token. it sounds like another scammy coin will be coming soon again.

Lol, this meme (shit) coin are just re-inventing the wheel, but if they don't offer anything then why would you put your hard earn money on this project?

I would rather go for prime movers altcoin or at least in the top 10 that is solid and with reputable people behind. Good marketing but I doubt that investors are going to bite on this kind of promotion. As I have said, they are just jumping on the hype and when the hype dies down, and so is your investments.
5466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter - Nov. 20 on: October 11, 2021, 10:58:40 PM

November 20th is going to the day of boxing between Three-devision WBO welterweight Champ Crawford Vs Two-devision titlelist Porter. The purse was agreed to 60:40 (Crawford : Porter) instead of regular 80:20 so that Crawford gets $6 Million and Porter gets $4 Million. WBO has planned to livestream the match on their facebook page on 20th November. Eagerly awaiting to watch. A big fight between champions.

that's a handsome payout during this pandemic period. win or lose, they have their pockets full going home. bookies are heavily favouring crawford here. but upset can happen anytime. but it seems they are pretty confident giving odds for crawford at only 1.1x.
we may see another toe-to-toe fight in the boxing ring after this fury-wilder trilogy fight. at least the money of boxing fans are not wasted with boring and dull fights. we need explosive fights inside the ring so this boxing sports will keep afloat in the market.

It's always a handsome dividend when two of the best fighters are going to face each other. And maybe this is the main reason why suddenly Crawford goes out of his comfort zone to fight non-TR fighters for the first time in many years.

Remember that this is the minimum that they are going to get, there's still money to be made in the PPV and live gates a well.
5467  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: October 11, 2021, 10:11:40 PM
Lol those game check fines for Simmons looking like they will be too much to pass up.  Knew it was only a matter of time before he comes back.  Should make for an interesting locker room  guess who isn't invited for after win beers  Smiley

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32380934/philadelphia-76ers-making-progress-talks-ben-simmons-return-sources-say

Poor Ben. He’s had a rough few months. Besides his shooting woes and attacks from his own fans, now the guy looks like he’s going to be the first star to fail at trying to force a trade. That locker room is going to be one extremely awkward place to be when Ben Simmons walks in and plays the silent game with everyone.

Probably another Kawhi-San Antonio scenario?

@gagux123 - Kyrie doesn't want to get vaccinated, let's say it that way. So he is really a pain now, not sure how long the team can tolerate such actions for their superstars. Yeah, we give credit to Nash for thinking ahead, but in the long run, it might bite them in the ass if Kyrie wouldn't play in their home court.
5468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin on a recovery mode on: October 10, 2021, 11:00:12 PM
Bitcoin's recovery phase started and nearly finished in a very short time period. Even though China tried to spread a FUD, Bitcoin price didn't care about it and started going the opposite way to it. In the last 24 hours, we saw it reaching $56k. It is closing in on the all-time-high level every day. We saw a little price corrections while this run is going on. But they are not too serious.

Yes, I thought that the run is over after seeing a correction of $53k. But then bitcoin continue to defy the negative news goes to $56k. Now we are in the sideways, a good indication that at anytime we could have a break out run again to a new all time high. Patience is the key here, and if others have the capital, then it's good to still buy at this point and see the price goes to $63k-$64k. As far as the Chinese FUD, investors grew tired of it, and then we have a lot of positive news that overlay this FUD and the result is a fast bounce back and recovery to $56k.
5469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: October 10, 2021, 07:52:38 PM
There's a rumor that there is an internal conflict between Casimero and his management team, the MP Promotions. If only MPP did participate on the purse bid then somehow the money that will go to Casimero would likely be bigger than this. It's just awkward that there is only one promotional company (Probellum) that participated in that bid.

Though Casimero will get a 70% share of the pie i think that's too small for setting up for training camp, pay for hotels, and airfare as words had it that he will be on his own for this fight unless things with his boss will be iron out.

I do hope that this rumour is not true. We all know how supportive MP specially on fighters like Casimero.

Yeah, as I have said before, even if he gets the lion share, still very small and there could be -30% of the paycheck or even higher. That's why I asked the question of whether he should accept the fight or not. Nevertheless he has everything to lose if he decided not to so he should go and keep on winning.

I follow his social media account  Grin to get updates from him directly bro and with that matter, he said on Facebook that he will not give up the belt and he will take this fight. The good thing is, it is campaigning time for the presidential election and I don't think Manny will turn his back on him as votes from the Casimero family will turn to waste if he does that lol.

Kidding aside, yeah Manny will help as long as Casimero is willing to sit down and throw his pride and ego aside. I'm in the process now on what really happen that causes this internal conflict. 

I'm glad to hear that it came directly from his mouth that he is not going to give up the belt. After all, he really work hard for it, and eventually got it the hard way.

Sean Gibbons is Casimero's manager and probably everything Casimero might said will reach their boss Manny Pacquiao. And for sure, maybe it hurt his ego a bit seeing the amount of money he will get, but probably it has been explain to him by the team. Looking at the bigger picture, winning over Butler will give him Inoue, and that's where the money will flow on John Riel's pocket.
5470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: caught between dilemma and pleasure on: October 10, 2021, 12:47:23 PM
Don't worry what you do, it will all pay off. The prospect of this project is good, I'm sure the bounty participants of this RPG token are certainly lucky enough. My advice if you are sure then try to hold this token when it is distributed. It seems likely that the price of $22 is only the initial price. In the future, this price will be quite high. Back again to you who need to do research. Trust me they complete the IDO in less than 48 hours. A new achievement for a pretty good future.
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On October 7, Rangers Protocol has just completed its IDO and opened a secondary trading market soon after. Less than 48 hours after launch, the price of Rangers Protocol Gas $RPG is as high as $28, and a record ROI hits a high of 521.67%

It is a common practice for new coins, after the IDO and listing on decentralized exchanges are completed, the initial price increases several times. But not all coins continue to increase in price after that, the price of many begins to adjust. Perhaps the best solution would be to sell half, and leave the second part of the hold.

Right and as far as participants goes, this is already a win-win situation for them. They don't need to wait for the project to list it on an exchange and then see how the price will go.

In any case, the only hard decision for the bounty participants is whether to hold on it or just dump and take the reward. So probably this is the dilemma that the OP is asking. So it's hard to answer, as no one really knows what the future will hold for this project.
5471  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: October 10, 2021, 11:25:53 AM
New offensive style as the king Lebron says. What do you say guys if they are now with Westbrook?

--> https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/lebron-james-says-lakers-have-a-whole-new-offensive-system-as-they-integrate-russell-westbrook-newcomers/
IIRC, I had said it once here. They don't need to focus on defense anymore because they have their players back when they won the championship and they added more power to that defensive line with DeAndre Jordan and Rus. You can't mess with these players when their in front of you.
Dwight and Rondo on the other hand will just have to re-enact what they did when they won a championship or make it better.

Offense should be the focus. What's the role of Rus? Will he be on the 2nd team as a lead playmaker or will they let him join Lebron on the floor.
I guess we will just see once the season starts. Frank Vogel is also known for being a good coach to rotate players and look for chemistry so it would be a big challenge for him.

Yes, maybe we will see Russ and Lebron together in the game or Russ coming off the bench to lead the second team.

And I agree that Vogel is good as making adjustments and rotating his player. Maybe what we missed is Javale during the championship run, but hey we have DeAndre to cover that up as we might see him showing old glimpse of his dunking prowess when he was still with the lob City.
5472  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ BOXING POLL ADDED ]: Fury vs Wilder III - THE TRILOGY IS BACK ON !!! on: October 10, 2021, 10:54:02 AM
This is finally over, Fury proved to the world that he is the better fighter between him and Wilder.

He got Knockdown but just like the first fight he was able to get up and in the end, he was able to KO Wilder with a solid punch.
I just don't like Wilder after the fight as he doesn't show respect when Fury tries to shake hands, so he is really a sore loser now, and no doubt about that.

What's next for Wilder then?
You still want to know what next?
Lol I couldn't believe my eyes after the defeet.
This calls for a big fat argument cause I think someone was wrong somewhere.
Bet lost making me think twice next this kind of fight comes onboard.
How I hope I can reverse the time...bowh!

He can go back and fight his way to the top again, those fighters that he has beaten and asking for a rematch. Maybe the loser of the AJ vs Usyk, as AJ has officially exercise his rematch clause and probably the fight be held next year. And then the winner fighting Fury for all the belts in the heavyweight and maybe after Fury wins all the belt he can retire undefeated and cemented his legacy as one of the best HW champion in recent memories.
5473  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [List] Phishing Cryptocurrency Site on: October 10, 2021, 10:20:46 AM
Fake Optimism.io website, very dangerous as once you connect your wallet, everything will be gone.

So please be careful specially for newbies out there as you can easily fall for this trick.

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5474  Economy / Speculation / Re: October Bitcoin bull month. on: October 09, 2021, 11:37:36 PM
Was there any news to make the price shoot up? I saw a few nice pieces of bitcoin news when I saw the price had pumped a few thousand dollars, but nothing that would make me think people would suddenly start piling money in. Maybe just resistance break or sentiment change after bouncing off low $40,000s once again?

I posted this in the other thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363454.msg58072021#msg58072021

Maybe investors saw this as a positive news, SEC delaying their approval, so still 50/50 if an ETF can be approved next month or not. A indication that SEC is really looking at it like in a microscope that's why they need additional 45 days, to make a decision. Imagine what kind of FOMO we are right now, and what if US SEC approved it? would be crazy price increase up to the end of the year and maybe see the price into the 6 digits. So everyone is jumping on the bandwagon.
This is a classic case of “buy the rumor, sell the news” if investors wait until this becomes official then the price would have increased too much when they finally get to invest in the market, so what they are doing is they are buying the rumor expecting that there is an approval and then they can take advantage of the positions they took early, and if this does not happen they can sell for a small win as the market is forming a small rally right now.

Yup that's is, buy the rumour sell the news, but it is very effective method for the price to move on a positive direction. Hit $55k and it seems there's no stopping as the price keeps on growing and we might see $60k or even new all time high this month.

This is no longer small rally but maybe another FOMOlutation, lots of movement even at weekends. Which shows that traders and investors are keeping an eye of the price and keeps on buying.
5475  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: October 09, 2021, 07:55:28 PM
There's a rumor that there is an internal conflict between Casimero and his management team, the MP Promotions. If only MPP did participate on the purse bid then somehow the money that will go to Casimero would likely be bigger than this. It's just awkward that there is only one promotional company (Probellum) that participated in that bid.

Though Casimero will get a 70% share of the pie i think that's too small for setting up for training camp, pay for hotels, and airfare as words had it that he will be on his own for this fight unless things with his boss will be iron out.

I do hope that this rumour is not true. We all know how supportive MP specially on fighters like Casimero.

Yeah, as I have said before, even if he gets the lion share, still very small and there could be -30% of the paycheck or even higher. That's why I asked the question of whether he should accept the fight or not. Nevertheless he has everything to lose if he decided not to so he should go and keep on winning.
5476  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin ATM stolen in a liquior store on: October 09, 2021, 06:49:19 PM
Or maybe the thieves wasn't aware that it was a bitcoin atm and thought it was just a regular atm full of cash?

Or maybe they initially plan to hack, but abandon the idea because they are not that technical in the first place and just decided to rob the nearest bitcoin atm? Lol.

They are lucky if there are some cash on it, hopefully we will hear a follow news about this.
5477  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Jamel Herring vs Shakur Stevenson on: October 08, 2021, 10:56:20 PM
^ There are no odds yet for the handicap, we all know that it is too early for bookies but at least ML is available and Herring is a huge underdog as far as betting, 6.x is very attractive indeed.

But the smart money is pouring on Stevenson as early as today, future fights for this kid is really looking good, (Oscar Valdez), but I would agree that this is still a very close fight. Pressure on Shakur, to show us that he is indeed the potential next cash cow.
5478  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: October 08, 2021, 10:31:11 PM
^ They have proven already when they went straight to the finals during the bubble. No one expected them to be that good that year, but they upset teams in the East that time and give the Lakers everything they can handle. Most of the core players are still in Miami, intact, it's that last season they are inconsistent in the regular season. So we will see how's Lowry addition to the team will help them achieved their goals again to reach the finals, they are one of the underrated team this season that can pull a big surprise.
5479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant on: October 08, 2021, 02:59:07 PM

We will know that inside the ring, of all of the recent opponents of Canelo, it seems that Caleb is the most loud about it as far as trash talking is concern. Very vocal in attacking Canelo in public and even in their face off. But it's different when they are inside, either he can really has the power to knock out Canelo (which majority of us doubt), or he will just be an ordinary fighter there because Canelo's talent is too much for him.

He should not change, he should keep attacking Canelo for us to see an entertaining fight. Majority of the fans are on the side of Canelo, but if he can upset Canelo here, he will accelerate into stardom and he will get big fights and money going forward. I believe all boxers do not only aim for honor, they aim for money more, so Caleb should train hard to beat Canelo.

It's one thing to attack a power puncher like Canelo, because once you are caught and your chin is not strong enough, then maybe you will be knockout. so it's better for Caleb to adapt new styles and strategies just to keep Canelo guessing what will be his move.

Yes, gone are the days when boxers fought for the glory and all the marbles to be one of the best. Now is pure business and money grabbing.

Caleb can only train on a certain level, otherwise, his body will be on a overtrain mode, and come fight night, he will not have the stamina and the power. No need to overtrain, just enough to peak during fight night.
5480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Casimero vs Butler ordered by WBO on: October 08, 2021, 02:09:49 PM
Ok, so here is the official documents from WBO themselves:



So $100,000 is the minimum purse bids according to by-laws:

http://www.wboboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Purse-Bid-Rule.pdf

Maybe what they expecting is that other boxing promotional companies are going to try to outbid each other. But do the this fight long been overdue, almost a year in the making, maybe they have given just a couple of days for promoters to make a bid, and so Probellum has won the bid because there's no competition.
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