[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant

[carlisle1]

That's why Caleb needs to be have a good plan and work with his coach on how they are going to upset Canelo because it seems that he doesn't have a weakness. So the best way is to test him out early in the first 2 rounds and see how Canelo will react. Not sure if Caleb will show as the heavier during that fight, or the lighter one so that he can move and be the fastest one on his feet so avoid Canelo's power punches. But it will be boring though if he keeps on running and playing defense.

Team Caleb already knew that Canelo doesn't have a weakness so that might be the reason why Caleb Plant resorted to trash-talking so he could provoke Canelo and make him out of focus on fight night but i think that's not gonna work as Canelo has been through this kind of a situation a lot and he already knew what to do.

I think it would be good if Caleb won't go light on this fight and try his luck brawling with Canelo, who knows if he can land few solid blows that could turn the fight in his favor.

Caleb for me should take every opportunities to go toe to toe,

with that trash talk that  it's more likely that fans expect him not be lite from this fight.

He should focus more trying his best countering whatever Alvarez will use against him, this incoming fight will be mostly anticipated,

Alvarez always have the fans, Plant is the underdog here it shows around including  bookies.

[Sithara007]

Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.

[Kemarit]

Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.

Just check the ticket sales and it looks like there are still some available. Maybe because we still have a month to go, but for sure the press con scuffle really put more hype on the fight, and then every Canelo training video, he always tells us how Caleb is going to pay for disrespecting his mother.

So we don't know if this is scripted or not, because if yes, then Caleb get a mark on his fight. Hopefully  even if the tickets are not sold out, we will see great fight between the two.

[Questat]

Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.

Just check the ticket sales and it looks like there are still some available. Maybe because we still have a month to go, but for sure the press con scuffle really put more hype on the fight, and then every Canelo training video, he always tells us how Caleb is going to pay for disrespecting his mother.

So we don't know if this is scripted or not, because if yes, then Caleb get a mark on his fight. Hopefully  even if the tickets are not sold out, we will see great fight between the two.

I am a bit curious, how are we going to check the ticket sales? Is there a website where we can monitor the total number of tickets sold already and tickets still available? I know this is a hyped fight as what both have done during the press conference creates noise in the boxing world.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

That's why Caleb needs to be have a good plan and work with his coach on how they are going to upset Canelo because it seems that he doesn't have a weakness. So the best way is to test him out early in the first 2 rounds and see how Canelo will react. Not sure if Caleb will show as the heavier during that fight, or the lighter one so that he can move and be the fastest one on his feet so avoid Canelo's power punches. But it will be boring though if he keeps on running and playing defense.

Team Caleb already knew that Canelo doesn't have a weakness so that might be the reason why Caleb Plant resorted to trash-talking so he could provoke Canelo and make him out of focus on fight night but i think that's not gonna work as Canelo has been through this kind of a situation a lot and he already knew what to do.

I agree, it won't work because Canelo has been in the game for so long. But still effective tactics to others. And as you have said, it's not going to work because Caleb can't back up his s**t. Canelo still the A-side in this fight.

I think it would be good if Caleb won't go light on this fight and try his luck brawling with Canelo, who knows if he can land few solid blows that could turn the fight in his favor.

He can still brawl though if he remains very light. But it could affect on how he takes up a punch. He can either go heavy or light. Heavy as in the Fury strategy, he has more sting in his punches against Wilder in the second fight. But being light would be more beneficial for him in the long run, in my opinion.

[Cling18]

Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.

I guess that's just Caleb's strategy to gain more attention. Other boxers are doing the same thing and it's something that we have to ignore. Canelo has an edge here since he has more supporters because of his good record through the years. I just hope that Caleb could also prove everything that he's boasting about.

[YOSHIE]

I guess that's just Caleb's strategy to gain more attention.

Maybe, but it's not good, because they are watched by millions of people in that humiliation, it's boxing, not a good impression for insults, anyone can get emotional if the words Caleb says to Canelo, it looks like there is a personal grudge between them, maybe, who knows.

Canelo has an edge here since he has more supporters because of his good record through the years.

yes, it can be seen from the career that has been achieved by Canelo so far.

I just hope that Caleb could also prove everything that he's boasting about.

Not sure, but if Canelo faced him in the ring it could emotionally turn around, but conversely if Canelo faced Caleb professionally, the winning points could go to Canelo, which is sure to please this boxing.

I often see boxing, opponents who are emotional, arrogant in rounds 1-3 fall.

[Kemarit]

Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.

I guess that's just Caleb's strategy to gain more attention. Other boxers are doing the same thing and it's something that we have to ignore. Canelo has an edge here since he has more supporters because of his good record through the years. I just hope that Caleb could also prove everything that he's boasting about.

We will know that inside the ring, of all of the recent opponents of Canelo, it seems that Caleb is the most loud about it as far as trash talking is concern. Very vocal in attacking Canelo in public and even in their face off. But it's different when they are inside, either he can really has the power to knock out Canelo (which majority of us doubt), or he will just be an ordinary fighter there because Canelo's talent is too much for him.

[Kelvinid]

We will know that inside the ring, of all of the recent opponents of Canelo, it seems that Caleb is the most loud about it as far as trash talking is concern. Very vocal in attacking Canelo in public and even in their face off. But it's different when they are inside, either he can really has the power to knock out Canelo (which majority of us doubt), or he will just be an ordinary fighter there because Canelo's talent is too much for him.

He should not change, he should keep attacking Canelo for us to see an entertaining fight. Majority of the fans are on the side of Canelo, but if he can upset Canelo here, he will accelerate into stardom and he will get big fights and money going forward. I believe all boxers do not only aim for honor, they aim for money more, so Caleb should train hard to beat Canelo.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.

I guess that's just Caleb's strategy to gain more attention. Other boxers are doing the same thing and it's something that we have to ignore. Canelo has an edge here since he has more supporters because of his good record through the years. I just hope that Caleb could also prove everything that he's boasting about.

I agree with you, I do not know, sometimes I think that the amount of money that Caleb can receive could make all expectations arise in him and that he can offer in front of the public, something that I have noticed in boxing is that he is moving an amount of impressive money, honestly the established business model is very lucrative, if Caleb takes a beating, but they guarantee him enough to guarantee his life, why not do it?

From a sporting point of view, without belittling Caleb, I think that Canelo is on another level, I do not see Caleb as a suitable rival, it is for this reason that the predictions are focused on Canelo, although it is not known, a possible good luck if Caleb prepares better, anything could happen.
Off-Topic Note: In my case, if they mess with my mother, I think I would react much more violent than Canelo, and this is just that it will give the spice to wait for a Knockout.

[Baofeng]

We will know that inside the ring, of all of the recent opponents of Canelo, it seems that Caleb is the most loud about it as far as trash talking is concern. Very vocal in attacking Canelo in public and even in their face off. But it's different when they are inside, either he can really has the power to knock out Canelo (which majority of us doubt), or he will just be an ordinary fighter there because Canelo's talent is too much for him.

He should not change, he should keep attacking Canelo for us to see an entertaining fight. Majority of the fans are on the side of Canelo, but if he can upset Canelo here, he will accelerate into stardom and he will get big fights and money going forward. I believe all boxers do not only aim for honor, they aim for money more, so Caleb should train hard to beat Canelo.

It's one thing to attack a power puncher like Canelo, because once you are caught and your chin is not strong enough, then maybe you will be knockout. so it's better for Caleb to adapt new styles and strategies just to keep Canelo guessing what will be his move.

Yes, gone are the days when boxers fought for the glory and all the marbles to be one of the best. Now is pure business and money grabbing.

Caleb can only train on a certain level, otherwise, his body will be on a overtrain mode, and come fight night, he will not have the stamina and the power. No need to overtrain, just enough to peak during fight night.

[South Park]

I think the fight they previously had ( not in the ring) makes people to decide more than Plant has no chance of winning. Look at the odds, at 1.08, I think it's almost impossible for Caleb to make an upset here, and Canelo will be waiting and eager to punish him because of his trash talk that is below the belt.

1.08 is still good IMO. In some of the previous fights, Canelo's odds were 1.025 - 1.030. It makes no sense to bet with such odds, but a lot of gamblers would disagree with me and say that it is just assured winning. At the time when the fight was first announced, I made the decision not to make a bet on this match. I knew that the odds would be insanely low. Even if it is an assured win, if the bet remain this low then I am not going to take it. And BTW, although we call it as an "assured win", there is no 100% guarantee. Upsets happen in the boxing ring every now and then.

No assured winning, but the chances are slim. So as bettors we need to be smart, we need to bet on the most likely who are going to win. ML sucks so we need to look at some handicaps for Canelo.

Hope though that both fighters are going to bring their A-game in the table in this fight, both are predicting a knock out victory, but I would like to see both boxers putting a show, a clinic, technician vs technician. And both possesses a knock out power as well.

As we know everything can happen in a fight so Caleb has some remote chance of winning, but Canelo is in his prime and he is still improving despite all of this, and when we take into account that he seems to take boxing extremely seriously and he never skips a training session then this makes it even more unlikely, as the only way I could see Caleb improving his chances is if Canelo took him lightly but it is obvious to me this is not the case at all.

[bittraffic]

1.08 is worth betting because the chance of losing is very slim. You'd have to bet a big amount thought but consider the fight a bit free of risk because Canelo is still in his prime. The contenders he battled with before Plant are even closer to Canelo's level of skills but he overcome them. If for instance there will be an upset, it will also be a terrible loss.

The fight will still be next month, the odds will change when date approaches.

[Ziskinberg]

1.08 is worth betting because the chance of losing is very slim. You'd have to bet a big amount thought but consider the fight a bit free of risk because Canelo is still in his prime. The contenders he battled with before Plant are even closer to Canelo's level of skills but he overcome them. If for instance there will be an upset, it will also be a terrible loss.

The fight will still be next month, the odds will change when date approaches.

Well, I respect if you feel it's worth betting on that odds. of course, if you have a big amount of money, 8% return is very significant but for most bettors who do not have that, then maybe they will look for a different market with better odds. Betting on the over/under would give better odds IMO, but then, it depends on how you see the risk and reward, it's always the bettor's call in the end.

[Fredomago]

1.08 is worth betting because the chance of losing is very slim. You'd have to bet a big amount thought but consider the fight a bit free of risk because Canelo is still in his prime. The contenders he battled with before Plant are even closer to Canelo's level of skills but he overcome them. If for instance there will be an upset, it will also be a terrible loss.

The fight will still be next month, the odds will change when date approaches.

Well, I respect if you feel it's worth betting on that odds. of course, if you have a big amount of money, 8% return is very significant but for most bettors who do not have that, then maybe they will look for a different market with better odds. Betting on the over/under would give better odds IMO, but then, it depends on how you see the risk and reward, it's always the bettor's call in the end.

If he has that amount and willing to take that risk, we all know that there are possibilities is a two-way result even bookies bring that odd and the chances of winning are big for Alvarez. It will be concluded after the fight happened. Different gamblers have their different views about this kind of risk, some who happened to be a fan or more experienced gamblers understand what they are taking and they are willing to invest a huge amount of money to have a good slice of winning money.

[Silberman]

Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.

I have my doubts this was scripted and it was probably very real, Canelo is a family man if this was scripted I have no doubts that he could have accepted Caleb talking trash about him as a boxer and maybe as a person as he will understand this is one of the ugly parts of the business, but I really doubt he would have allowed Caleb to say anything about his mother, the other possibility is that there was in fact a plan and Caleb got out of control and insulted the mother of Canelo and now he is mad for real, anyway we are going to find out when they fight, and if Canelo obviously avoids going for the KO and keeps punishing him then we will know he was mad for real.

[Kasabus]

1.08 is worth betting because the chance of losing is very slim. You'd have to bet a big amount thought but consider the fight a bit free of risk because Canelo is still in his prime. The contenders he battled with before Plant are even closer to Canelo's level of skills but he overcome them. If for instance there will be an upset, it will also be a terrible loss.

The fight will still be next month, the odds will change when date approaches.

Well, I respect if you feel it's worth betting on that odds. of course, if you have a big amount of money, 8% return is very significant but for most bettors who do not have that, then maybe they will look for a different market with better odds. Betting on the over/under would give better odds IMO, but then, it depends on how you see the risk and reward, it's always the bettor's call in the end.

If he has that amount and willing to take that risk, we all know that there are possibilities is a two-way result even bookies bring that odd and the chances of winning are big for Alvarez. It will be concluded after the fight happened. Different gamblers have their different views about this kind of risk, some who happened to be a fan or more experienced gamblers understand what they are taking and they are willing to invest a huge amount of money to have a good slice of winning money.

Personally, I have not put a bet with an odds of 1.08 for my money, I feel it doesn't satisfy me and though it looks like an easy win for a fighter that we will put a bet, that thing called "upset", is possible. Based on the betting Odds Converter 1.08 is converted to a 92.6% chance of winning or called as implied probability, which means there's still a 7.4% chance of winning for the underdog.

tools used ; https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html

[CaVO32]

1.08 is worth betting because the chance of losing is very slim. You'd have to bet a big amount thought but consider the fight a bit free of risk because Canelo is still in his prime. The contenders he battled with before Plant are even closer to Canelo's level of skills but he overcome them. If for instance there will be an upset, it will also be a terrible loss.

The fight will still be next month, the odds will change when date approaches.

Well, I respect if you feel it's worth betting on that odds. of course, if you have a big amount of money, 8% return is very significant but for most bettors who do not have that, then maybe they will look for a different market with better odds. Betting on the over/under would give better odds IMO, but then, it depends on how you see the risk and reward, it's always the bettor's call in the end.

If he has that amount and willing to take that risk, we all know that there are possibilities is a two-way result even bookies bring that odd and the chances of winning are big for Alvarez. It will be concluded after the fight happened. Different gamblers have their different views about this kind of risk, some who happened to be a fan or more experienced gamblers understand what they are taking and they are willing to invest a huge amount of money to have a good slice of winning money.

Personally, I have not put a bet with an odds of 1.08 for my money, I feel it doesn't satisfy me and though it looks like an easy win for a fighter that we will put a bet, that thing called "upset", is possible. Based on the betting Odds Converter 1.08 is converted to a 92.6% chance of winning or called as implied probability, which means there's still a 7.4% chance of winning for the underdog.

tools used ; https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html

You really have a point on this. You can never be sure once they are inside the ring. As we have seen this year, there are several upsets that we've watched. So even if we say the chance of Caleb is slim, we have no idea how he is preparing for this fight. Definitely, he knows he is the underdog here, so we don't know how he is taking this challenge. Because if he is truly prepared and has smart plans, he can pull off an upset. Who knows?

[ene1980]

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It's one thing to attack a power puncher like Canelo, because once you are caught and your chin is not strong enough, then maybe you will be knockout. so it's better for Caleb to adapt new styles and strategies just to keep Canelo guessing what will be his move.

Canelo Alvarez is too smart to understand that a lucky punch could change the fight and with his experience i am sure he will overcome any challenge unless it is from someone who has a strong defensive fight gave as well.

Yes, gone are the days when boxers fought for the glory and all the marbles to be one of the best. Now is pure business and money grabbing.

Every era, the fighters were fighting for money and glory as they have no other job that they like to do other than having a competitive edge over the opponent and during the time of Ali the crowds were bigger but the ticket charges were smaller, it was business as usual and nothing changed in that aspect but the ticket charges are higher and the quality dropped as well.

Caleb can only train on a certain level, otherwise, his body will be on a overtrain mode, and come fight night, he will not have the stamina and the power. No need to overtrain, just enough to peak during fight night.

Caleb has to come out with something extraordinary to win a fight against Canelo, no matter how hard he trains, he is not going to learn a new style in a few months. 

[goinmerry]

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

I just hope it's not just about revenge. Boxing is boxing and with the goal of revenge, it can affect the performance of any fighter. A true will is the determination to win not because of revenge. Fighting with just an act of revenge on a boxer's mind will just result in a pure offense without thinking anything but to destroy the opponent. On the other hand, the opponent is just calmly waiting for the hole.

But I can't think Canelo will just fight because of revenge. He is already a mature boxer just to show all his best for that purpose.