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5481  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ARE NEWBIES CONSIDERED AS FOOLS? on: August 26, 2016, 06:38:00 AM
I think not. There are also smart newbies.

What means smart newbies? In my opinion smart newbies just read and learn. This all thread is against "Newbies" that playing with experienced users just to troll, cheat, or just do pist offsomeone.

In real talk there are newbie rank or new accounts made by another veteran member which used just to troll someone in the forum or just used for arguing wit someone. They would create new account instead on using their mai account to hide their identities and avoiding negative trust. Well just saying real talk here.
5482  Other / Off-topic / Re: How do I make money with $100 USD BTC on: August 26, 2016, 06:34:08 AM
maybe he doesnt read the  op's question i guess. buying bitcoin in $100 amount would  be small to keep it for a long time, with that amount i would rather invest  it into trading and  do my best to make it grow with it  just avoid  on lossing trade it cant be possible but be sure to do smart trades so that your $100 in bitcoin would  grow  not just on holding it.

$100 is not really a small amount for everyone but it is small if someone is wishing to hold his coins so for that he would need to grow them a bit by trading altcoins which can generate him good profits gradually even if he starts with $100.

Well for people who are saying that $100 is a small amount well get yourself lives guys for us who are not that wealthy that is already a big amount for investing into something so that we are going to make it grow. And there are only 2 ways that I can think of for investing it by trading and by just keep holding for it.
$100 is not a small amount. Even I am in a first world country and people who have wealth would not just throw this amount away ever! Angry
From what you can get for this amount especially when it come down to buying groceries for a week on this for one person then it is not just an amount to just not care about. Undecided

That amount isn't a small amount at all and you could do or buy some thing useful with it,as you said you could already buy groceries. With that amount. Just to think of it that there are lots of people struggling even to get $5 amount. How much more on $100? earning money is not easy as it sounds you should done hard work in able to gain it that's why we should give importance on our money that we've earned no matter how big or small.
5483  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: August 26, 2016, 06:24:35 AM
If you were in desperate need for money / Bitcoins, what would you do? How to get it, earn it, whatw are your solutions and experiences? I wonder what people are ready to do when money is the problem.

I would just get one more job. Everybody have told me that the easiest way to get Bitcoin is buying it and I know now they're right.
the same thing for me, i think that it would be the best decision as for money you need to work all the time
Working hard is the only solution if you can still still prepare the money you need to solve the your desperation of money. But when in times of emergency where big financial problem will arise you will do all desperate measures when you do not have enough savings to spend.

We must work hard and save for emergency purposes that might happen unexpectedly in the future. Saving could be helpful but as same as you said that those savings are short or not enough then you would surely find things that would possible to borrow some money whatever it may takes but don't forget to asked from help above and would guide you on how and avoid doing illegal things just to get the said amount which is not really good.
5484  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: August 26, 2016, 06:19:02 AM
   Gambling is when you risk what you have, to make more for yourself. You can risk money or goods, some people risk their lives, like its case with russian roulette. Some people gamble for food and some gamble for sex.
   Did anyone here heard about Slovenian roulette? They make a party, big one, with girls, boys, gays, bisexual girls and boys, and on party people drink have sex .... but one of them is hiv positive. Now you think about it what gambling really is.
True, gambling is something you risk or bet with anyone. I haven't heard about that Slovenian roullet but that kind of thing is such a bad idea to join to risk something. Even if you won on but you got hiv positive. Then it's a worst and biggest lose in your life for sure.

Really? I haven't heard about that Russian Roulette maybe that is swingers party and they are just adding gambling to it like choosing on who is going to be the bet and if ever they are going to lose then they are going to have sex with the bet. But in reality that is really happening especially with big syndicates.


Just like what I'm thinking too, maybe it's jus a party with gambling involved just for entertainment and I really never heard about that kind of Roulette which is rarely to happen since gambling is money you would bet not on making yourself as a bet which is somehow really different on the real essence of doing gambling games.
5485  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 26, 2016, 06:08:18 AM
It's an interesting idea to have internet business and BTC as a daily job.

Yeah, but you need compare your day job with full time on bitcoin. Which one is more worth than that two and you need think about the future if you go full time on bitcoin.

You should think first carefully if you made such final decisions before. You switched and think on the things that could possibly happen on the long run. Well,we can't stop anyone In their decisions as long as he know that his doing right and don't compromise anything on making such decision. Just like on switching to Bitcoin and leaving your day job as an example.
5486  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People hate Bitcoins? on: August 26, 2016, 06:04:37 AM
no people not hate bitcoin they just don t understand what realy is
i just LOVE bitcoin

People who don't know about bitcoin will surely not hate bitcoin. but some people still hate bitcoin I know that.. and those are the scammers, cheaters and frauds who want to ruin bitcoin and its reputation, and they are pretty much successful in their mention. nowadays a lot of people loosing their trust on bitcoin after getting scammed.
Yeah, they destroyed the good image of bitcoin, these people should be ban forever in the bitcoin community to let them pay for taking advantage of the newbie who usually fall for their scam acts. We need people to appreciate bitcoin so we can achieve massive adoption but with these people around they will be a big hindrance to our success.

Even those scammerr,swindlers out there  also love Bitcoins that's why they do bad things just to get it from another person. Love for money is commonly normal in human beings and no one really hates money instead it's soo important for us the difference is just that they gain it in an illegal way and making bad reputation to Bitcoin into others.
5487  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to Grow my Bitcoins. on: August 25, 2016, 07:53:25 AM
I know a new method where you can earn ~30% of your bitcoins in one week. You just need to have bitcoins on your wallet, you don't need to send it, and don't need to invest. I can help you everyone if needed. I will make you profit and then you will pay me 10% of this Smiley

Feel free to ask me, Im helping newbie too!
I can be defined you're promoting a Ponzi via your PM and for you know from your sentences i know if that is just a fakin Ponzi, and you're just wanna for plunges the newbies into your hole.

For sure, he wanted to be pm'ed by someone who got interested, but same as you said it's a ponzi for sure because there's no such investment promises 30% return in 1week which is really huge and only ponzi sites could definitely proposes that such high returns offer.
5488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: August 25, 2016, 07:48:26 AM
Its hard to say exactly how much you can earn form gambling. You need shit load of luck! all of you must have heard of some guy who won 100BTC payout from some gambling site. well, he is lucky, or maybe its just another well executed marketing trick to attract newbies into gambling. And yes, the amount you risk in gambling should play its part too. Bottom line is Gamble with what you can afford to loose!

The higher your bankroll is the more exciting your game will be and the more chance that you will recover your losses and those that win bulk bitcoins, I think they have a good bankroll amount and luck or if not, then it's just a marketing strategy of a gambling site, just like those who are introducing ways to gamble safer to attract and invite more players.

Yup, it was just a marketing strategy to attract newbies. In gambling making 100 BTC is not a small matter. He may be from casino side, or he is born lucky. I am not made any big profit in gambling. All bets are small winnings. And how much I earned double of the amount I spend on gambling.
Yes, you must be reflecting a most common gambler' life and his statistics. Profiting 100 bitcoins is not at all possible in my view too. If it so, there must be some serious malfunctioning in gambling site's coding and security breaching also possible reasons. How long a gambling house will afford to pay such a big amount to it's players. So, earning from gambling is not possible, then why we still bother about 'how much'.

Well that 100 bitcoin to earn with gambling is very possible in gambling. Especially if you are an active gambler and you manage to save your winnings daily maybe 30%-50% of your profit you are already putting that on safe place. And even higher than 100 bitcoin is possible at all there is no limitation in gambling if you always win.

It could be possible if you are lucky enough to win a profit every time you gamble, agree you could gain those amounts in no time but still remember the risk involved and no matter how lucky you are there are really times that you would lose that day as we all know gambling does only matter on luck or chance and doesn't guarantee stable income on it.
5489  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 25, 2016, 07:44:20 AM
im trying to dont mixed both. when im playing it must be my spare time. i i dont play when im busy, at work, watching something. if i keep they seperately. i mean life and gambling. There is no problem. because now if i won im getting happy. but if i lost im not getting sad. im risked everytime i can lost.
I also not play when I am in my personal work. I do play when I am bored and when I get free time. But I play sports betting so t will not take much time to place a bet. If I get more free time, then I play some slot games, with very small amount. My profit and loss almost equal. So gambling is not fixed my life and also not wreck.

If we play gambling in this way, than it can't be addictive us and also can't fixed our life, Thats why everyone say gambling is a fun and entertainment thing, so play like in this way than gambling can't destroy us.
It can never fix our life because that is gambling, gambling is a risky game that we could lose our money and when we lose our money we also lose happiness in gambling so not good when this scenario will be experience.

It could possibly fix your life if you won in lottery and that's also considered as a gamble game but the chance would be very small and the rest would definitely wreck your life in the end if you keep playing and get addicted into it and for sure it would destroy you if you can't handle yourself on gaining losses everyday.
5490  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Which goods on: August 25, 2016, 07:22:49 AM
Hello!


Which goods do u want to buy here in the forum?

You should specify your question a little more by adding as if you are asking about physical or digital goods, because maybe some people like buying digital goods like accounts of websites or other similar things, and maybe some people like buying physical goods like mobiles or other things that can be shipped to them later on.
He said goods and there's a lot to choose from and same as you said he must specify more about to his question since we don't know what he meant by goods because there are many types and variety of goods on this forum. If he's searching for good then he go to goods section maybe he could find those these that he meant there.
5491  Other / Off-topic / Re: du you spend coins on real life. on: August 25, 2016, 07:12:52 AM
Yes of course i spend bitcoin already in many ways because there are more things to do in my bitcoin wallet, we can buy in online shopping, paying our utility bills, top up our mobile and there is the time to exchange it to fiat to spend in different stores who are not accepting bitcoin as payment.
Though some countries are not enjoying their bitcoin using online but with the help of the local exchanges it is easy to cash out bitcoins and we can use the fiat to buy what we like. I spend my fiat from bitcoin so I would still say that it is easy and I am spending my bitcoins in real life.


You don't actually spend Bitcoins in real life because you exchange your Bitcoin to fiat therefore you spend fiat on buying those things. Using Bitcoin on purchasing something physically is not possible as of now because we all know that Bitcoin isn't already being adopted by many countries, you could actually spent those Bitcoins o some countries like Brazil because there ar already lots of stores who already accepts Bitcoin as payments.
5492  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: August 25, 2016, 06:59:59 AM
The worst mistake is when i play the dice game and then i play with 90% winning chance with small bet, after i got bored because the payment is quite small so i change from auto bet to manual bet, and click the max button, i thought that i still bet with 90% chance, but in the manual bet it is 50% winning chance and then i am busted lost 0.02 in one bet

Oh well that is really worst, why not you have save half of your winnings and keep on betting for small amount with that 90% chance.

That is already a big amount that you have lost 0.02 btc for just one bet. I know that thought you a lesson that if you are getting bored.

Don't risk your btc that day.
Yah, it's quite dangerous if we got bored with small profits and the greediness take over want more profits, so all in and then it lose in the blink of an eye. I think that's how gambling works, small bet and get small profits makes us want more, game of chance and luck usually lead us to lose.  That's why I like poker, blackjack and sports betting, chance of win depends on your experiences, knowledge and some skills.

That's the common thing in any gamblers who intend to bet more because of greedines and they decide to all in bet and you are right you may lose all of your money in an instant. Which usually gamblers experience in the end. Sport betting and pokers may rely o your skills but it also need luck because without it then it's also nothing and a sure lose.
5493  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: August 25, 2016, 06:56:27 AM
I haven't got a regular schedule of buying Bitcoin. I usually buy BTC at the falls and before starting up new ideas. But I have a regular schedule to save BTC. I think BTC's price will grow in the future so it seems to be a good investment, but now I need more fiat currencies than BTC.


Even you don't have a regular schedule of bitcoin that is going to be fine. Just always think of buying when:
1. You have excess or spare money.
2. Always check if the price is going to be low at all.
3. When you really need bitcoin for trading or any other purpose which is basically important.
We should buy when the price is low, money can be produce once you see an opportunity and since opportunity in bitcoin are sometimes seen, when we see some price fall back that makes the price decrease hard, it should be the time to buy and focus on buying only.
I would not easily do that because I only rely on my savings to spend in my investment. Maybe it is easy for others as they have all the resources to do that but for people like me who are not earning a good income is hesitant to put a big money in bitcoin.

You have a point, it's really easy to said by someone that we must buy or put our investment on Bitcoin when the price is low but that's not always the case, same as she said that not all people had the capacity to buy large amounts because they only rely on their savings and salary because we have different states of lifestyle and capacity when in terms of financial but we have the same aim and that is saving Bitcoin as we can no matter how many or how little as long we save.
5494  Economy / Economics / Re: If bitcoin price is $10.000, will fiat be worthless? on: August 25, 2016, 06:50:05 AM
No i don't agree, fiat money will not be affected by bitcoin
But if bitcoin price is more than 10000$ its mean you just have more money to spend it

Thats my opinion

Exactly, since Bitcoins value is based on fiat then it wouldn't really affect at all. If Bitcoins price would go higher then fiat would also increase its value for sure and take note Bitcoin depend on it. It's not possible that fiat would be useless even price would go to the moon the story would be still the same. Fiat been used already for how many centuries passed and it would hardly to remove it's worthiness.
5495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: August 25, 2016, 05:26:09 AM
Hey! Good day i really need some answers because its about gambling in your life and other people are playing for it with heart and i just thought that how can gambling help you with your life? and do you gain something from it? does it help you to be wise or worst your attitude will change.. i need answers please!

Gambling won't help anything from us except only entertaintment nothing more. It doesn't really help an individual that affects his traits or any other things. Maybe gambling would help change your life if you got jackpot to a lottery with that it would definitely change your lifestyle but always remember that gambling has more dangerous effects if you got addicted to it.
5496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Giving up gambling is not easy on: August 25, 2016, 05:18:50 AM
first thing that you can do is tell this to your family and tells that you really need help to quit. i think your family will help you and they will support you to quit gambling.
I am doubt this way will be successful, because if some one wanna stop play gambling it is must come from his self. And our family can not control every time. They don't know what we doing on computers and they don't know what our partner of gambling doing to us.
Yes, without self determination, no gambler will be successful to give up gambling. All the above giving it up is not a one day task. It must require lot of mediation kind of practice. Only in slow progress, a gambler will be successful to over come his desire of gambling again. Without self control and self discipline, giving up might result in numerous attempt and giving more frustrations.


Those things are the most important thing that be kept in minds to those gambler who really wants to quit. Even how many people would support you its would be still useless if you really don't help yourself first. The first step is on yourself on how much you are dedicated to remove gambling from your life with that mindset you could easily control yourself to stay away on gambling since you already know or set you self goals regarding to that matter.
5497  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What would you like to buy? on: August 25, 2016, 05:12:57 AM
I hope that I can buy everything later with Bitcoin. that I can walk later in a store and just can pay with Bitcoin. But it needs time and Bitcoin must also be more used. That is very important.



Me too I want to buy everything with bitcoin as long as I can afford that so what we need to do right now is just going to hold bitcoins. But to be specific is that I want to buy some clothes,shoes and other things that I need. Because my shoes are already old and some of its parts were just tailored so I really need a new one.

It is true all the time, maybe one day stores will accept bitcoin, I also hope like that to make it more easy to buy something

That's the thing that we are all hoping for which is Bitcoin is already received by some merchants in our place which is a really good thing for us and does give convenience for all Bitcoin holders all over the globe. Lets wait what would be the things would be developed in future years to come.
5498  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what is definition gambling in your mind? on: August 25, 2016, 05:08:19 AM
Many people said the gambling is just a game and another people said it is Investment. How do you think?  Roll Eyes

gambling has a clear definition and in my opinion only fools think of gambling as an investment. gambling is a game that you can play for fun and take risks there. but since it is unpredictable you can never think of it as an investment. and doing so will result in losses.

No we can't call them fool its because their are existing gambling casino investment maybe they define for themselves to invest rather than playing and also i think people definates gambling as milking cow since many people really trying their luck to gamble their little money just hoping to earn big from it,  and i've seen some addicted or enthusiast asking some strat for sane gamblers and hoping to win if they will used it but in reality it will never works when the game is on.

Yes, but he also has reason for calling them fools. If you are investing, you are not a fool, you are a calculated investor, but if you think you can make a living off gambling (on a game with a house edge) in the long run, you are definitely a fool. And there's always the mentality of "I can win my money back" which can be detrimental.

Even investing on a gambling site would not guarantee you for long term and it depends on how long would the site would run. Investment could be defined in that way but if you are a player itself then it's not a investment anymore but entertainment with a very high risk of losing money.
5499  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: August 25, 2016, 05:01:55 AM
It depends on the level of stability that you get in the activity that you perform.
yeah I think if you've got a fixed income in bitcoin and you get good conditions and circumstances in the sense that you get the feeling of security in bitcoin. it may be time for you to consider to working full time in bitcoin. maybe I'll do the same thing. but now I'm enjoy in real life jobs
a good choice to keep your real job. because it will be difficult to re looking for a real job, if one day you do not get good results from bitcoin. bitcoin be a very good for side job if you just do a signature campaign, mining or holding.

I am 100% agree with you, because bitcoin is only better for a side job, otherwise if we whole depend on bitcoin, i mean if we convert our day job on bitcoin so it is risky like we know that bitcoin is risky. 


I agree with it, bitcoin is going to be good to consider as your part time job. And while you are going to have your full time job then you are just going to keep on working with both sides. And don't just to forget to set your priorities and you need to have proper time management because having a lot of source of income is good.

The only key to be successful on handling bot jobs would be having a proper time management and for sure you would handle that easily maybe it's hard at first but you would get used to it. Agree, having many source of income is very good and you must treasure anyone of it.
5500  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 25, 2016, 04:59:14 AM
Have a good planning, and in addition to planning, proper implementation is essential in the process. Wink
yeah, planning is a really important thing in my opinion because it can help you to spend your money on the things you really need
Without planning you have no direction, you can save but you will not be satisfied with your savings and you will still continue to do it. We have to note that saving is not only the most important thing as investing is the key to earn while saving is just for future emergencies and for leisure maybe.

Agree, you must have a plan or goal o your savings so that you would really do save because you are obliging yourself to do in able to achieve your goal in the future. Saving for having an investment on future would be good, as you said you would earn with that investment.
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