Save money is always better than investing in risky ways, or ponzi schemes. But if the investment is safe and long term it's also useful.
I think the investment is not just about Ponzi schemes and hyip still many investments that have less risk. yeah I know most of the current investment is a ponzi. so that people think about investing is always risky. whereas there are many kinds of investment And I would really not consider ponzi schemers and hyip as investment because it is not. That is a complete scam designed to take the money of the people who are desperate to make money and resulted to being fooled by the operator of such. Investing in bitcoin is a clear investment I can say because it is legit and it can give us the possibility to earn in the future. We should always be warned about ponzi. They are scams and should always be avoided. Number one rule in choosing an investment, if it is too good to be true, it is. There are a lot of investments out there. We should not limit ourselves on online ponzi and scams. We should look for authentic investment that provide a sure roi. Since virtually all of the network is full of various rose by fraudsters. So that you can unknowingly lose all the money. You need to be very careful in investing especially in online investments where you don't know what is the future of that site so its better to invest in real world and real products. It depends on what investments would you prefer either offline or online. Both have the same risk on losing your money btw. If you see that youre invesmtent on online would be good compared to have a real world business then proceed . Its also good on having both investments but you would need to handle them properly to minimize the loss. |
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no , you will not get any payout . i will suggest you furst you should read the post of signature campaign . there is everything that you want to know .
Excuse me? I was newbie for some time, and i have joined signature campaining. I was payed so i dont know what are you talking about. However doing sig campaining as newbie is pretty stupid... too low payouts actually. You should not care about the payrate when you're joining sig campaign. Just enjoy and responsible with your post and you will realize that everything went so fast without being expected Thats right when we are a newbie we must not care about the payrate but in reality most of the newbies directly seeks income in just joining directly signature campaigns and whos the one are not being payed in a signature camapign even in newbie rank? lol I do also recieved payment when i was a new back then. |
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So final conclusion is that its allowed to sell bitcointalk account, but many of us share opinion that selling accounts leads to some scam or fraud. Can we find a solution to stop this account buying and selling?
Can we move this conversation on next level by starting to talk about preventing of this trading with accounts? What can we "little people" do about this? We don't have any real power on this forum, and I don't see we can do something about it. Am I wrong?
Theres nothing we could do to us members only in this forum even mods on this forum have a hard time to stop these things because we cant stop an individual to sold their account to someone and it can be hardly to trace because they can transact anytime without being traced by someone thats why as of now these things continues. |
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There's is no a risk-free investment because when you invest you risk 100% of you money or whatever you invest, but
I think investing in gambling is so 1000% risk, you don't know when it will you investment earn.
unless you are ready to accept that you lose some or worst whole of your investment in gambling dude..
Not only in casino investment but in any investments we don't know when things will go bad and investors may lose their money. But some are riskier like casino investments but if you want to take the advantage of growing coins faster then you can diversify your investment means put in few good casinos then it will reduce your losses if anything goes wrong in one or two casino investments. In every investment there are risk involved on losing your money if things goes wrong in the end. Agree, there are many investments out there and as you said casino investment would be riskier but if youre wise enough you can do partitions in your money to invest so that it wont be gone when some of investment s would shut, same as he said. |
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That's really a hard question because women are not interested in the crypto world, they want to live in real life where they can do shopping to maintain their beauty, but if you can convince a professional woman who like to explore new things if would be easy to motivate them to use bitcoin.
There are also women who are not looking too much at their beauty... They are working hard to earn... I know some moms who are working on online jobs while attending to their family, those who are working on this home based jobs are the easiest ones to convince and not those who are outside and working on their day job the whole day...  Agree, for sure those homebased job womens out there would be interested to bitcoin since they are the type of women who seeks an extra income which bitcoin would be the thing. They would really get hooked into bitcoin because bitcoin would increase their income just staying at their homes. |
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I don't think that 0.1 would be sufficient to earn a living with it, if you are depending only on bitcoin for living the you should earn at least 2 btc per month to have comfortable life.
You really didn't specify the .1 bitcoin amount you are saying. What i am trying to say is that if you can get .1 monthly then it surely not is sufficient. But when you can earn .1 in every 3 days or 5 days then for me this is quite enough It is a very good thing if indeed we get 0.1 in 3-5 days. For in the amount that we can do some things to fullfill the life or do some other way in order to get bigger or folding bitcoin doubled that amount. If you want to get a bitcoin with the amount is big enough, then we should be trading. Because of the trading we will get anything easily Well i would still be happy for now even if i am still getting .03 per week. As a student this would still be a very good help for me to buy the things i needed in school. I think .03 weekly is not bad since ive been in this industry for 6months only 0.03 per week is not bad amount for a student having a part time with bitcoin. 6 months is still new for sure in upcoming months or years you would learn new things or other methods that would increase your weekly income. Thanks to bitcoin and to this forum that gives us opportunity to earn money without any hassle or not so hard work. |
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Investing in gambling sites is risky and worthy.Before you investing in a site you must have research anything of the site like I have a bad feedback , investment plan and the staff members.But also asked the player or the user of the sites that they experience in the site.
Most of those sites won't scam you however, its that since its a new site and starting out, a whale might start gambling and completely empty the sites investment bank. But still you have a better chance to win because you are the house and you have the advantage, even if the there is a whale who will gamble in your site, he needs luck to win all your site bankroll so the advantage is still in you, some sites closes because the owner scammed its investors and that is the common problem. That's in casino investments choosing trusted sites are critical. Don't ever invest your money in any new sites just because to get better profit margins. Invest only on well-trusted sites, your profit margin may slightly less but at least they won't cheat you and take way all your money. Anyway, these investments are suitable for less risk takers. Even then, you have to be careful. There are a lot of long-standing sites that still may not be up to par. Some have shady admins or shady histories. Look at just-dice, they've been around forever. that's right mate but i think theres also some trusted ones just needed to have further review and the OP made correct decision to ask the community about how to and what he should do before doing the investment, i guess from those many replies OP already knew what to do next. and i hope the OP can learn about many thing on here before made any investment on gambling site so it can reduce the loss when he get loss and the OP can get win on big amount. because if the OP can not learning anything from here about gambling site, then the OP will loss all the money he have and will regret it. If he has time to read all opinions and views of users in his thread maybe he would get some good ideas which is very helpful to him before he make an investment with a gambling site. He must not rush into things without any knowledge because it would risk the money that you plan for investment which is not an ideal or a good thing. |
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yes there is no doubt about this that bitcoin can effect our life alot, i think it has both positive and negative effect on our life, because on one side it give us a good profit, and solve our financial problems, while on other side it take much of our time and isolated us from our friends and relatives.
This made me laugh. It's you that is isolating yourself from everyone if you put too much time in something, and not Bitcoin. And considering you see it as a negative, it means that it doesn't make you a lot money (if any at all).  Before bitcoin i were wasting my time online, playing games and using paid to click websites, currently i found my solution bitcoin, all the time i spend online allows me to earn well and i got my extra free time to spend with family. I remember be at home connected for over 15 hours daily without almost talking to no one, nowadays i spend around 5-8 hours and i have time to do anything. Im really glad that many of us here changes something in our life by bitcoin. We have the same situation when the time i dont even know bitcoin i just spend my day on playing games all the time almost 12 hours and my social life are being affected but it changed when i already earning bitcoin it minimizes the time i psent on computer while im earning decent amounts. Same with me. Before I do 10 hours of game time. When I knew that I can earn online, i changed my way in halving the game time and the other half for looking somethig to earn through bitcoin of course. Now I am not that game addict anymore just playing for fun like an hour per day. This is somewhat useful or benefits on knowing bitcoin which really affects our lives not all but partially on how we manage our time. Ill rather spent my time on earning rather than playing games without any benefits im not saying its bad but wasting time on such things would not be worth of your time. As others say time is gold  |
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Does someone has any suggestions how to make 17 BTC with 7 BTC starting capital in short period of time?
Only in high volatility markets, there is no safe ways to make such amount in a short period of time. Its not possible for sure when you are aiming to reach that goal for a short timespan maybe you can get or reach that by the ways of playing gambling this thing for sure would reach that amount if youre a very lucky man then 17btc would be easy just bet 7btc with 25% chance then if you win a big smile of your but if you lose i guess you would do suicide. hehe |
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I think the topic is not right here. Gambling vs betting? I don't think so, "Betting in gambling" I think the right topic. Well, in this topic gambling is a game then betting is a way that we will do when we want to play gambling.
Thats right, it shouldnt be compared because they are only one. As you said gambling is the game itself and what do we usually do when playing gambling? Its betting,right? Then there no need to elaborate things in here. This is just nonsense topic or maybe he is refering to sports betting and other gambling games. |
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100bitcoins and a well settled busness will be more than enough to get retired after 20years but i think 100bitcoin is little bit harder to achive in this time but you can try
It may be more than enough, but it depends on how the currency will rise in value over the years. Depend on his need to wag money.so you can not say 100 bitcoin will be enough .if you looking to retire after 20 year than why not to invest 1 btc in trustable mining service which give you good profit. Things and foremost theres no a trustable mining service even they exist for how many months now but the assurance that it would last forever isnt there. 100 bitcoin is a good amount if you looking to retire after 20 years. You could build a physical business with that amount and you can secure your future i guess. |
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I would rather choose to invest than gambling, they are both risky but investment has less risk compare to gambling. You can make profits in the long run from it just make sure that you are in a good and trusted company. I invest my bitcoin through holding...
Thats a right decision there pal, and almost users in here would have the same answer to yours. Investment would be the best if you are planning for a good long term profit because in gambling you cant guarantee your money their because almost gamblers out there lost their money in the end. Its better to hold your bitcoin than to gamble. If we all know how to invest and you have enough knowledge and enough money to start investing, why not try it? Becuase for me investing is not dangerous if you just know how it works, and for sure there are many people who will also guide us with our investment that is also investor too. They can also help us and they can give us an advice. Because gambing is only relying with our luck. Yeah, investment do not make us to lose our money but it is only the lack of knowledge with which we are unable to manage our investment/business and so we lose there, before investment we have to make sure that in that particular field we are expert and we have good knowledge about that field otherwise we do not have to go there to invest. Investing is always calm earning money with minimal losses. The risk of course is, but it is not comparable to the risk of gambling. Gambling can take all at once. Usually gamblind will lead anybody to a loss, it can be a big or small but a loss, for other side investement will maybe allow you to roi, or atleast you are taking a lower risk doing it, if the roi doesnt happen atleast you had risked and you know you had try. What do you mean "will maybe allow you to roi", its not like those ponzi or fake cloud mining scheme where you deposit and wait for roi, as i know you can divest any time you like from casino. If i earn 10% of my investment in casino i would be very happy, everything above is bonus. Even those casino investment is still risky because you just invested your money on their and waiting for a month to get your shares but the risk is still there you wont guarantee that it would last long unless its a famous casino online because some casino site ran and taking all money of the investors which is really bad. There is still a ris in investing coins to online casinos. However, that risk is minimal compared to you betting on these gambling sites without any good plan and strategies. Fact is, the house always have the edge and when you are investing to the house, then you have greater chances of profit thatn playing against it. That is right to minimize your lost when you gamble may be you can try invest some of your coin but betting with a good plans and strategies? Do they exist? Because i dont think any plans or strategies really work on gambling, what you really need to do is find some luck when you want to play it and that is not that easy to find it though. Sometimes when you are not in luck some big whale might win a lot of coin and make your profit go down but mostly in the end you will get back what you loss, it just matter of time on investing Different persons may have different answers to this, but they both are pretty different,gambling and investement. Gambling gives you the instant result whether you win or you have lost your money.U gonna know it pretty quickly and in investement it can be a long term or short term.And if one have some good investement knowledge,then investing would be more preferred. Thats the reason why these threads are created for opinions and different views from different members and each one of us have different perception in any thing. I agree gambling would give you fast results but it also give you more faster lose of money in an instant. Invest has also risk but you can lessen it if you are already prepared and knowledgeable already on what you are doing with your money. |
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I would hold out and wait patiently until the price rises back to what it was before.
At this very moment, holding and buying is the wise move. Selling bitcoins is not ideal because the price is going down at the moment, although only sell bitcoins that is above the price you bought it - by low, sell high is the way to go. Price of bitcoin will surely bounce back and rise again - I see no reason it continue fluctuating downwards because people are investing and there are regular people who transacts bitcoin on a daily basis. Bitcoin really bounce back and rise again! This happening right now the falling price of bitcoin its a sign to buy a bitcoin and store it and wait it to rise again and sell  thats the good strategy that we should do now Then really the price of bitcoin is only $1 then its time to buy a many bitcoin i couldn't agree more with you guys. everyone sure when bitcoin drop until one dollars each coin, will so many people buy at that lowest price but consequently the price will up soon because volume bitcoin also increase. it will make the fluctuation up fastly. It may depend on what things would be considered first by the investors. Dropping bitcoins price at $1/coin is a total disaster even you said that its the best time to buy bitcoin but the question is? how many would by? is it stable or would pump again if someone would buy? For sure many would lost their trust to bitcoin at that moment and the decision to buy more is not easy anymore and definitely theres a new coin would be better than bitcoin in that time. |
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we're all start our rank of anythings from newbie. as i see in this forum, not all the newbies considered as a fool. but a few of newbies is lazy to read the threads or explore the forum content.
because of the goal is "how to get bitcoin from bitcointalk" make some of our newbie friends here post something without read something.
That is the reason why newbies are considered spammers eventhough all of them are not same but just because some of them come here with the purpose of participating in campaigns and earn bitcoin so they just spam around without reading and understanding anything and that made a bad reputation for all newbies. Mistake of one newbie would be the mistakes of all, you are right it affects all the reputation of all newbie rank because of those foolish things that some newbies do like spamming in the forums which is a really bad habit and a rule violation to signature campaigns and to forum itself. |
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Better buy bitcoin while the price is lower. Maybe you will never its price like this. Borrowing bitcoin is better when the interest is low. Check or visit the lending section. Check if the interest are low. Ofcourse you need something to stake. I suggest do not borrow, better earn some money and buy bitcoins. If you are too needy then you have no choice but to borrow.
although the interest is low but maybe that is will become burdens for your self you can't think with freedom in your minds and always thinking about the date of pay off and paying the interest. you will never feel comfortable with using borrowed way. Businessman very closely with freedom in every case and it is indeed a very heavy burden to give something if business people. If you want to get something big and the maximum is indeed we should avoid loans. Because in the loan we have to pay the loan principal and interest is huge yes as much as possible we should avoid loans, especially if you borrow from a bank or money lenders who have high interest rates. but sometimes we have to take out a loan in order to keep our business afloat. so not much choice, you go bankrupt or maintain it. both are equally difficult. It depends on how you balance those situation and on how you handle them. Making loans would depend if you really need it incase of emergencies either in your business or on personal financial problems. Its really a hard choice if you borrow or not because of those high interest rates which causes you to loan more just for paying on interest of other loans. which is a hard situation. Emergencies and for investment purposes are the only acceptable reason on when it is going to be useful to borrow bitcoin. But as you borrow you should not to forget your duty for being a borrower and your trust is being borrowed by the owner so that you can already fix your problem with it. So, just borrow if you have stable price too. AS a borrower you shouldnt forget your duties on to pay those amount you loan on your agreement the the owner because if you are a hard payer for sure they wouldnt give you a loan nextime because they know already your ways on how hard do you pay your loan. |
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So, some time ago there's this user who gave me a red trust because of selling an account. He said that selling account isn't allowed on this forum.
So please answer the question, "Is it allowed to sell Bitcointalk account?"
You are Sr. member so i think definitely you know about it. But personally i hear about it mostly members are doing it and selling and purchasing, but no one have take any action on it. but i suggest you, avoid it and do your own work. He definitely knows already the answer of his question unless if he bought that account directly to skip the newbie rank then for sure he would not know this thing thats why hes asking on this forum regarding to that matter, Selling accounts in this forum is allowed but it isnt tolerable and im not fan of it since these accounts could be used in scamming purposes. Yep. That happened a lot in this forum or community when a scammer bought an account on as low as 0.05 or so and earned a quite large number of bitcoins by running a ponzi scheme with that trusted and senior account, because when new users see a senior account is the owner of that site they think it would probably be trusted so they invest and what happens at the end is known by all of us, Boooom! and gone. Those scammers for sure uses that method to convince people here on forum to join on ponzi sites or any transactions that involves money. Mostly people fall always because they believe on high rank accounts especially newbies they easily fall to that thing. Thats why im not really fan on selling those higher rank accounts in this forum. |
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I would rather choose to invest than gambling, they are both risky but investment has less risk compare to gambling. You can make profits in the long run from it just make sure that you are in a good and trusted company. I invest my bitcoin through holding...
Thats a right decision there pal, and almost users in here would have the same answer to yours. Investment would be the best if you are planning for a good long term profit because in gambling you cant guarantee your money their because almost gamblers out there lost their money in the end. Its better to hold your bitcoin than to gamble. If we all know how to invest and you have enough knowledge and enough money to start investing, why not try it? Becuase for me investing is not dangerous if you just know how it works, and for sure there are many people who will also guide us with our investment that is also investor too. They can also help us and they can give us an advice. Because gambing is only relying with our luck. Yeah, investment do not make us to lose our money but it is only the lack of knowledge with which we are unable to manage our investment/business and so we lose there, before investment we have to make sure that in that particular field we are expert and we have good knowledge about that field otherwise we do not have to go there to invest. Investing is always calm earning money with minimal losses. The risk of course is, but it is not comparable to the risk of gambling. Gambling can take all at once. Usually gamblind will lead anybody to a loss, it can be a big or small but a loss, for other side investement will maybe allow you to roi, or atleast you are taking a lower risk doing it, if the roi doesnt happen atleast you had risked and you know you had try. What do you mean "will maybe allow you to roi", its not like those ponzi or fake cloud mining scheme where you deposit and wait for roi, as i know you can divest any time you like from casino. If i earn 10% of my investment in casino i would be very happy, everything above is bonus. Even those casino investment is still risky because you just invested your money on their and waiting for a month to get your shares but the risk is still there you wont guarantee that it would last long unless its a famous casino online because some casino site ran and taking all money of the investors which is really bad. |
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yes there is no doubt about this that bitcoin can effect our life alot, i think it has both positive and negative effect on our life, because on one side it give us a good profit, and solve our financial problems, while on other side it take much of our time and isolated us from our friends and relatives.
This made me laugh. It's you that is isolating yourself from everyone if you put too much time in something, and not Bitcoin. And considering you see it as a negative, it means that it doesn't make you a lot money (if any at all). Before bitcoin i were wasting my time online, playing games and using paid to click websites, currently i found my solution bitcoin, all the time i spend online allows me to earn well and i got my extra free time to spend with family. I remember be at home connected for over 15 hours daily without almost talking to no one, nowadays i spend around 5-8 hours and i have time to do anything. Im really glad that many of us here changes something in our life by bitcoin. We have the same situation when the time i dont even know bitcoin i just spend my day on playing games all the time almost 12 hours and my social life are being affected but it changed when i already earning bitcoin it minimizes the time i psent on computer while im earning decent amounts. |
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"Bitcoin, a solution for many Fiat problems" It sounds more realistic. I really dont understand on what he mean , as you said it more realistic and easy to understand compare to the topic title in my own opinion. , Money is a very big problem for some because some have a hard time on gaining it physically with bitcoin you can earn without risking everything. |
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Just to make a point once again, its almost end of the august and bitcoin is still here. One more thread about bitcoin crash didn`t come true, do you feel disappointed? Or anyone else beside OP who wished the same thing to happen to bitcoins.
I wonder where you find all this stories about the crash, bitcoin have a nice price and people are working hard to bitcoin become even more popular. We can expect price to be much higher in the future, with more popularity that is logical expectation.
If you have read the OP, then you would know that OP isn't talking about Bitcoin to crash. He's talking about another financial crisis as we have seen years ago, but then worse according to him. That aside, OP is either trolling people, or he seriously believes this nonsense. Not sure which is worse. As ive read the OP's speculation its out of this world and its already 3rd quarter of this year 2016 and we didnt experience those things that he speculate. Maybe we could experience crisis in the future but it would not come to that point. Its just nonsense to say those things. |
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