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5561  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 06, 2016, 05:28:32 AM
That martinfail/martinshit is the worst startegy ever.
Great name btw Cheesy

None of strategy is working in gambling especially on luck-based games like dice ,slot , or roulette. Martingale , furboxnxzx , and whatever hell method out there only maximize your profit not minimize your risk but just making you lose faster instead (Keep noted that) .
Do it with your own method , and when do you want to stop just stop it . Don't think it again and wait till the next day for playing again.

Well your strategy requires the person on winning first, I think OP's question is related on how to win safely in gambling and not what to do with the money after you win. And also what you have mentioned is no where safe because you are suggesting to him to create his own method of winning, which requires a lot of trial and error that produces more losses.
5562  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Great way to make Bitcoin! on: December 06, 2016, 03:55:44 AM
Great way to make bitcoin is mining, because with mining we can found the new blocks. If we give from buying from exchanger it's only make the price unstable.

You are new, you don't know anything about that, when i was new i also used to think that mining is the best way to get bitcoins, maybe it was that time but not anymore, mining is not profitable for an individual anymore, it costs more electricity than what someone might earn from it, that is what you will hear most of the times.
It depends if the electricity cost is high and but if you have low cost of electricity in your place i think bitcoin mining using latest version of bitmain series  or hardware can gives you profit.. since the price of bitcoin is unstable you can get more profit if you can stay hold your funds.. and sell it for the right time when the price of bitcoin is high from the present price..
I don't think that mining is profitable anymore. In a way that we need a large capital provided that we have less expense. Mining right now is for people who can afford to have large mining farms, and also knows how to handle maintenance well. Electricity is one more thing, it will be one of the major cost that will determine if you have taken profit or not. There are other ways like maybe creating your niche blog and get paid for traffic.
5563  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: December 05, 2016, 06:05:30 PM
I don't understand the idea of bitcoin bank who will hold the funds which is totally against the spirit of bitcoin, everybody love bitcoin because of freedom so that I'm against this idea, very hard to understand why would we give our coins to 3rd party without any security about our funds, investment in bitcoin is better than this idea.
You have the point and i think we have already use the wallet as our bank.. and i think we dont need bitcoin bank except for ATM or any bitcoin machine that can withdraw and deposit bitcoin instantly.. will be a good idea to spread worldwide than bitcoin banks..

We are using it anonymously so if there is bitcoin bank i think they need our identity in order to be member of that bank..
The difference is that you may ‘get a loan’ or ‘get interest’ with banks as well which our bitcoin wallets can’t provide. Bitcoin Bank is against the basic concepts of bitcoin but that is what people want the “bank” to be I assume. When bitcoin hits main stream of adoptions, people may start forgetting to demand for bitcoin banks.

People getting a financial gain such as interest over the coins they save there is the only reason. I can't think of anything else that people may find so interesting, that they throw away their full control over their coins. You said loans, but there are several other ways of how you can get a Bitcoin related loan. Think about certain Bitcoin lending sites, the community that you can ask for a loan, etc. No need for a service that is saying to be a "Bitcoin bank".
I do not understand the essence of bitcoin bank. Although there are already some banks in bitcoin information. Just the very foundation of decentralized bitcoin tells a different story. Therefore, it is not that clear.
Yup the point of a bank's business is loaning money that you owned and they are the ones earning from it, However in the Bitcoin world their are thousands of people who are willing to loan their Bitcoin in an exchange for interest. The problem is this people who loan can't hold a big amount of Bitcoin unlike banks who can handle billions of dollars. For me just go to a Fiat bank if you will loan that big of amount.
5564  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think are the biggest disadvantages of Bitcoin? on: December 05, 2016, 04:37:06 PM
Well I must say the biggest thing that hinders Bitcoin's growth aside from its demand or presence is that it has slow transactions. Usually it takes about 30 minutes to 1 Hour or more just to see the Bitcoin reflect in my account, it is because of several confirmation on a single transaction. For it to be accepted in our developing world it must be fast and efficient in order to cope up with us.
5565  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: December 05, 2016, 03:23:34 PM
Investments are up to the individual themselves and their needs. Investments can be many things.
One way to invest is to invest in yourself whether that means ypu own business or paying to study something and increase your knowledge of things you are interested in.

That's right... An investment can be of any type... It is not always important that an investment should give you any returns because maybe you are investing on something that does not return anything... But i feel here they are discussing the profitable investments and i really can't find any of them these days...
So how can it be a good investment if there will be no return. Every businessmen or wise investor will never invest in something if they don't expect a return from it. For example A baker bought a new high speed oven, the baker expect it to make more Bread at a speedy pace. Maybe you are mistaking something from an investment.
5566  Economy / Economics / Re: Passive Income on: December 05, 2016, 01:55:33 PM
Every months I get about $110 - 250 from Google adsense program. Until now I have more than 5 blogs from blogspot, I got free cost, so I not paid domain or hosting. I fill my blogs twice a week with 3 posts. I recommend to you for trying Google adsense program, because Google is trust and 100℅ will paying and very simple, just join and add the google ads to our blogs if any user click our ads we get payment.
Nice profit dude, can i know what is your niche in your blog? i'm curious that you can earn $110 - $250 a month from adsense? I have website before and it's a tech niche (1m ranking in alexa) but i only earn $5 - $10 a month in propellar ads.
That is a pretty big profit for a man who is handling 5 blogs. I don't think your site with 1m ranking can go near what Balik is earning even if you have 5 sites like him which will be around 25-50$. Maybe it is always about time and patience to grow your audience with what he is earning he is like having his own paid domain because of the traffic he is getting.
5567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: December 05, 2016, 01:28:30 PM
I realize something just to day i really want to quit gambling for own good and also for my love once gambling can help us to reach what we want in life we know that every time we are going to play at any gambling site we are just being desperate in wealth always trying to make a good profit but it's negation -_- we are just ended up loosing every thing we had. Think of your love once then you are going to realize that you need to quit .

Many relationships get destroyed due to gambling and many people end up dying or committing suicide not capable to pay debts due to gambling. However the only person responsible for this is the gamblers themselves, since it is their choice to gamble or not

In other words, the only way to stay away from gambling is to exert proper self control and if possible not to gamble at all.
Realizing something won't change everything yes you might reazlie now that gambling wreck your life already but does not mean you're going to stop playing and it's good actually for your love once. After a few weeks and you have money you are going to back playing gambling again. THeUltraElite is right loosing too much or loaning to much just to gambled will ended your life and you don't have no choice.
Maybe this can help, find another thing where you can spend your money. For me my savings goes to an investment vehicle which is the Stock Market I didn't know watching your stock rise and fall can be addicting and profitable at the same time. At least when the stock fall you have the chance to wait if it will rise back up or cut your losses. In gambling if you lose you lose, there is no 2nd chances with your bet. In stocks there is and it can make you rich in the process.
5568  Economy / Economics / Re: The dream of getting rich with bitcoins on: December 04, 2016, 04:23:19 PM
Maybe not to get rich, but sure as hell to earn a decent amount of money with bitcoins.

How much money did you earn with bitcoins? Or did you lose some?
Good question. As far as i know ive already earn 0.05 since i start earning bitcoin on faucets that was way back 2015,ive never loose some cause i dont want to.

Can't believe it that you are that very patient with faucets and you are able to collect 0.05 for almost a year? I'm curious if you are still claiming some satoshi's with faucets. And what makes you good at storing that bitcoins because you did not lose them or you did not lose them but you spent them for something reasonable.
He needs to be educated so he can realize that there are more better ways than faucets, if you value your time and effort you must work smart not just hard.

Maybe he do have a good strategy and does able to collect a lot of active referrals. Because that is the only way that I know to make faucets profitable in a such way but he did it the usual way of claiming and waits for the cool down and claims again. I adore you man for your patience and hard work but hatuferu is right, we need to work smartly not just working hard.
Faucets way back then pay bigger compared to on faucets on what we have now. In the present both claimers and faucet owners are having trouble of its profitability. Faucet Claimers obviously needs to invite in order to get referrals to make a faucet profitable. While Faucet owners need to handle traffic from there website and yes they are losing Bitcoin in the process as well.
5569  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: December 04, 2016, 11:03:05 AM
I consider that a good investment at all valuables including gold. As well as real estate. You can buy houses and apartments abroad, and lease.

I don't think it's a good idea to invest your BTC in gold. By doing so you will leave Bitcoin which is the future and will join (or rejoin) to gold which is the past. To trust in Bitcoin more than in gold is risky, I know, but that is what most people here are doing, and I'm among them. I hope we will profit in the long run.
Everything you said are a good investments, the question is when will you buy it? A good investment needs time in order for it to grow. You won't buy a land that is already at the top of it's market value, you buy it when you know it will appreciate more with time. Also you missed the chance when Gold is at its lowest. I must say you need to look for another kind of investment such as the stock market.
5570  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Season on: December 04, 2016, 07:10:37 AM
Nice over time win by the Wolves today, I must say as a Wolves Fan seeing 1 Win over a 4 game losing streak make me happy. Andrew Wiggins tie-breaking shot saved the Wolves from another loss. Also Karl-Anthony Towns showed that he is the big man that can do all things. All we need now is to keep the momentum rolling with back to back wins for them. I also hope that the trade rumors for Wiggins would go away. He and KAT is the future the Wolves needed since the Garnett era.
5571  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Worldwide! on: December 04, 2016, 04:36:31 AM
Are there countries that do not accept Bitcoin? I mean no idea regarding it. What do you think will happen to Bitcoin 5years from now? I'm not asking you to be a psychic to see the future. I'm asking about your idea about Bitcoin's future. TIA!
list of the countries who banned bitcoin https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/top-10-countries-bitcoin-banned/
nobody know that the future of bitcoin even most bitcoin users has predict that bitcoin will growth and have bright future
doesn't mean this is will guarantee the future of bitcoin but may be for next 5 years the countries who banned bitcoin
will start to accept bitcoin as the currency
most of the countries are not accepted in bitcoin.because they don't have knowledge about bitcoin.in future bitcoin is used for all countries.all the currencies are digitized. It is used any countries.
They have knowledge about bitcoin but don't consider it as a worthy thing to be discussed until it's really threatening the local fiat and they will regulate it. And if all currencies are going to be digitised then I'm sure they will make their digital form of local fiat, even though those currencies are already have digital form due to existence of credit card and debit card
Why will a threat to the local currency make the government of that country regulate it? Of course it will be the opposite. Their are certain countries that are not open to a new kind of currency to protect their own currency, Its like going to the USA and hoping for all the stores to accept Euro, Yen or British Pound. Of course a country has its own Fiat currency, the only thing I can see is that they allow the conversion of Bitcoin to Fiat so that it can be use properly in a country.
5572  Economy / Economics / Re: Spending Bitcoins on: December 04, 2016, 02:56:06 AM
To grow the adoption of bitcoin we need people spending it as a daily currency.
In my country there is not much I cant buy with bitcoins.
Granted not a lot of retailers accept BTC yet but with all the services available now they dont need to.
A bitcoin debit card can be very handy.

Nowadays if I need to pay a bill then I can pay any bill via a site called livingroomofsatoshi

Please list any reasons why you could not use bitcoin for day to day expenses and maybe we can find a way.

Agree, we should spend Bitcoin in daily basis so more people more know with bitcoin payment. But we have same problem in several countries which not many places/merchants to spend your bitcoin directly except through online stores, I think it better if businessman and community create their own business that accepted bitcoin payment, so more places to spend it.
You are right. People around us must be feels usual with bitcoin. At this time the most easy way to buy goods using bitcoin is in online shop. Mass adoption is the key that can make us easier to use bitcoin. Spending bitcoin in regular basis is such as a challenge, because only a few offline place that adopt bitcoin as payment option. It will more comfortable to use if we can spending bitcoin in local merchant.
I don't think spending Bitcoins is necessary to make Bitcoin successful and make known to people, look at Gold for example it is not a kind of item in which is accepted as payment yet it is known by all people and it is valuable. Bitcoin's road right now is pretty good for something that virtually exist it might go over to 1000$ soon.
5573  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where to Invest BTC? on: December 03, 2016, 04:09:52 PM
I think you can invest btc ... in btc! So maintain your earning in btc and wait the price go up.
You can maybe find some new project but some times the risk of a scam is to high, and no one could help to recover your loss. I know gambling could be  a good way for profit (gambling on sport and not on "dice") ... but even you have some experience in such activity? If the answer is not ... don't try to earn with gambling you're going to ruin your self.

For my point of view the way for invest btc are similar for invest with cash ("classic" fiat currency).
In terms of the feasibility of using any means the best way to obtain permanent income to provide a passive income - dividends and interest from investments.
Investing Bitcoin is no where similar with Investing your Fiat. For the fact that Fiat Currency is accepted by any kind of investment and it is stable, in which Bitcoin is the actual opposite of Fiat currency because it is volatile and is only accepted by HYIPs as of the moment. The volatility of Bitcoin is one major factor why it is not accepted by real investment companies, as they are looking for accurate results not random ups and downs.
5574  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Does bitcoin help your life in daily needs? on: December 03, 2016, 11:34:43 AM
   My answer is also no, bitcoin doesn't help me in my daily needs. I don't have where to spend bitcoins and its impossible for me to pay bill's with bitcoins.
   I'm just saving bitcoins, I expect one huge help one day, and that is what I'm working for.

From which country you are because if you cannot use bitcoin for online purchase then you can convert it to your fiat currency and meet all your daily life expenses. And if you just keep your bitcoins as investment then also it is not a bad idea as in future you can really get high rate.
That's the point of investing Bitcoin, you don't expect to spend the one you are saving up with. Bitcoin can either be a form of Investment in which you are hoping that it will grow and it can be a form of some kind of currency which you can use online. If you are doing both with your wallet you are actually not saving anything. For me Bitcoin has the chance to pay us big time that is why I am holding it too until now. 
5575  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why I use Bitcoin ??? on: December 03, 2016, 07:50:19 AM
My main reason why i used bitcoi  because i can easily get a profit when I use bitcoin on playig games on gambling or trading some altcoins. Its better than my present job , I earn more here in bitcoin than my job today. Im planning to quit my job and I go full time with bitcoin

Really gambling with bitcoin does give you more profit plus earnings with trading is more than enough than your salary? If that so that's a good thing for you. My reason why I just simply use bitcoin is I can see its potential in the future to be being used by people world wide and with its fast transaction and cheap transaction fees.
I don't think relying on gambling and trading can actually be a profitable way in the long run. As risking your money in gambling that does not guarantee a return is risky for any people. Also trading altcoins has certain risk in which we need to avoid such as the new ICOs which are called dump coins by people because they are someones way on how to take profit from the first investors. And I don't think you really have a job because it's the first time hearing a person having higher income with Bitcoin than their current job.
5576  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NEver keep all your coins on an exchange on: December 03, 2016, 03:52:18 AM
Always use 2FA if a site offers it.
And if a site does not give you the option, move your money to a different exchange.

Still, don't keep more on an exchange than you can afford to lose.
As Mtgox, Bitfinex and others have shown, its possible for hackers to get access and make off with coins if the security on a site is not tested and reviewed.
For me even if it has 2FA it is more safe for an investor or trader to hold their available currency into a wallet. I know it would have more fees but is will be safer than actually having all your invested money into a site which is vulnerable to hackers. Also we must know that not all Exchange sites are safe so we really need to pick the best one, which we can trust our money in.
5577  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to convince my dad that Bitcoin is a trustful currency ? on: December 03, 2016, 02:26:33 AM
It's pretty hard to explain this to non technical people and also can be perplexing to programmers. First, you can explain to him what currency is. Fiat currency is backed by a government's credit, and Bitcoin by a decentralized network. The advantages Bitcoin offers are all transactions are transparent, and no single authority can control its network. It would be impossible to alter the amount of coins or any past transactions without simultaneously modifying millions of computers around the world, which is also unlikely to happen. Also it has been running for seven years and no authority, even FBI could shut it down.
Technically speaking fiat is not backed by anything since governments stopped backing their currencies with precious metals, so the only thing backing fiat is the trust we have put behind it and if you are in this forum I suppose you don't have too much confidence in fiat either.
Wrong !!!!!! If your have read the post of OP you will know that his dad has knowledge of Bitcoin, but the only thing that his dad know is that Bitcoin is used by mostly criminals therefore endangering the life of the teenager. What he can do is try to explain more about it and try to clarify things with his dad. Also all governments back there currency every time they print new currency they support it as the President has the power to control the quantity of money.
5578  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: December 02, 2016, 06:45:57 PM
At bitcoin the savings from last year to this one has showed the huge potencial of bitcoin, for other side there were several opportunities to get more bitcoin instead to get a bigger value on the same coins. This is something each one of us must choose, but for an investment without any risk you must and should choose the savings at bitcoin.
I think both investment and savings is already both in bitcoin.. in investment there is no safe there are always risk in investment.. but you can increase the amount of bitcoin if you have knowledge about your investment just like me that i invest some of my bitcoin into skills that actually i am using right now i study online and pay to someone just to teach me to do seo..  so study is the best investment that i think there is no risk..  that i you can use in the future to make more money,,
Of course because Bitcoin is like a stock of a company it is volatile and can change more often than a regular fiat currency. In the Bitcoin world saving is actually investing because you hold your Bitcoin hoping for the price to go up, while in the Fiat currency while you save your money it has a chance to decrease its monetary value because of Inflation which is inevitable for any country.
5579  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The danger of the cyptocurrencies on: December 02, 2016, 12:08:05 PM
Bitcoin is surely the first step to this utopia. This days when you come in some place with your card with expecting to pay by it and they say you "only cash is taken here" in the future everything may be opposite - payment with cash can move in the history and everyone will pay through such things as Apple pay or Samsung pay.
I can't see our world be adopting virtual money in the near future. Every countries in the government has many concerns about the online world, they don't want to add another problem into the system. Of course our world going virtual will make a lot of crimes easier as they don't need to go out physically they just need computers now to steal money/bitcoin.
5580  Other / Archival / Re: Which one is better for bitcoin future? Mass adoption or huge price increase? on: December 02, 2016, 08:45:56 AM
A hundred per cent mass adoption, complemented by gradual release of hoarded bitcoins into the market. Price should really not matter if bitcoin never needed to be converted to fiat.

Example in a closed economy, a currency can always be worth 1 loaf of bread no matter how the outside world values that currency.
The problem with more people using Bitcoin is that not all of them has good intention with it. Meaning that some of them might have interest in stealing our hard earn Bitcoin for their own benefit. I am just saying facts everything can now be stolen even collectible trading cards with value. Imagine a world that many people wants Bitcoin ,instantly bad people will follow too.
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