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561  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: March 19, 2017, 07:51:55 AM
Hello All,

What you think is the best investment to gain steady income in btc without actively doing anything?
So no trading/gambling/loaning etc.

Steady income more likely to be 'small & secure' than 'big & risky'.

Thanks,
BR Oinas
The only way I know of steady income was doing trade in the exchange sites, join in the signature campaign, invest in the ico, and invest on the cloud mining like genesis mining, other than than this cloud mining sites are not safe, so be careful if you wanna try.

These are not the ways of steady income, the only way of steady income is joining fixed price signature campaign or  working for a company as campaign manager on a fixed rate.

You can get fixed income from this forum by joining signature campaign but that income would not be sufficient for living and if you are looking for good and comfortable life then its always good to go for a day job according to your qualification which will generate good and stable income for you on monthly basis.
Indeed, there is no other way to generate a steady income rather than finding a work that is suited for you, all the other ways of earning money are just risky and will eventually go.

It is good to have bitcoin saved and working at signature campaigns but to cover your needs you need more than that so I suggest that you take some time to learn some skills and offer them for people in exchange for bitcoin.
562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: what is pump and dump? on: March 19, 2017, 06:38:46 AM
hi im a newbie here and I've heard that big alt coins like ethereal dash are "pump and dump" what does this mean? are they gonna crash soon? should i invest into them? or is it too late? what do you guys think of other alts like monero or ether classic... should we invest into the cheap alt coins?
The definition of pump and dump had been answered above me, you must understand that investing on altcoins are like dashcoin, monero and ethereum is high risk losing money, if you want make investments into ethereum classic I agree with you because actually ethereum classic is original ethereum.
Well I don't agree with you because monero is the real heart of crypto currencies and I don't see a reason why they are high risk investments, yeah ethereum classic is good too but I would everytime prefer monero over it.

One thing we all have seen is that Monero has had never had a complete dump in price, since it is starting it has been going good.
563  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is unpredictable job. on: March 18, 2017, 07:02:30 PM
Experts can make Bitcoin related predictions but none of them will ever be entirely right.  Some supposed experts thought that Bitcoin would die after the 2013 pump, but now it's smashed the ATH from then.  Bitcoin price prediction is never easy, and trading is never easy.  Traders might make a profit overall but they have to live with the knowledge that at any major point what they're trading could hugely collapse (especially if they're too reliant on Bitcoin) and they'll have lost most of their income.

That said, as long as traders have a few different things that they're trading and have some savings in case the worst happens, it's fine that it's an unpredictable job because it's still very profitable.
Trading is hard, there are more unsuccessful traders than there are successful ones, but more often than not, traders fail not because their ideas are wrong, but because they became too emotional in the process, this failure comes from making the wrong decisions like closing trades too early or letting their losses run too far, but never the less every trade no matter how certain you are its outcome is simply and educated guess, nothing is certain in trading.
564  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I have about 50$ where to invest ? on: March 18, 2017, 05:46:48 PM
Surely isn't a sufficient amount if you are going to invest that with bankroll casino's. Though the price of bitcoin now is dropping.

Maybe investing that with bitcoin and just hold it again will be a good place to invest that $50.

Because after the dropping the price will possibly increase again and that $50 can be doubled easily by simply waiting.
To double your investment the bitcoin price would need to double as well. I don’t think that is a short term gain, I mean bitcoin can see $2000+ but now right away. However the altcoin exchanges are more than just volatile its also open to speculation and manipulation.

If you get in the right time with some luck, you may get into an altcoin right before manipulation and gain 100% and even more thanks to people who does pump and dump.

You just need to be lucky and invest in the right thing at the right time. Of course you can do it right before dump and lose most of it as well, need to be careful. High risk high reward, low risk low reward. I think $50 is low enough of Money to invest on high risk stuff.
565  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Supertition on: March 18, 2017, 04:54:14 PM
I believe in luck while gambling but i am not superstitious. Wearing same tshirt doesn't make any sense, you need to be lucky to win some good amount in gambling and also you have to cashout at right time after winning, if you continue you will loss all at end.
But wearing that t-shirt if gives you a special feeling of winning and ultimately a positive energy and attitude which is very good to have in gambling. While I also never believe these things but sometime they seem to work like when I gamble against one of my friend I loose always while against another I mostly win, and yes I take same choice almost everytime ( sports betting )
566  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you like 0% house edge casino games? on: March 18, 2017, 06:13:39 AM
Ethereum has been pumped so hard, the largest pump ever I have seen, Edgeless now have more value in fiat, so they can develop more 0% house edge casino games on the Ethereum platform.
If the price of ethereum is pumped or dumped that does not change things really because casino would always want to have an edge over players and having no edge over players means that they are running casino in public interest rather than their own interests which make no sense.

Yeah, some coins that are new in market can make their dice sites where they offer no edge gambling and hence promoting their coins while gamblers get no edge fun.
567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: March 18, 2017, 05:29:04 AM

They might say that they are like that but in the end, they really want to earn money and that's just how people are. Everyone wants to win, and it's just that there are people that like just to enjoy it and take losing like a champ. If you bet what you can afford to lose, you can just enjoy and not be affected to much.

Everyone love money , thats a fact and the second one is that when someone lose even a slight amount of what he had then it is going to stress him out. You lose your money and definitely you are not going to be cool about it, everyone wants to win some money even if it is only a small amount.
Yes everyone wants to win money but I quite a bit don't agree with your latter assumption as people don't want to win small, they always want to win big, if they win 1 bet of 0.0001 they would look to earn multiple bets of the same type and get around 0.01. Actually this mentality of winning more than they should aim at is the main reason for the loss of most gamblers.
568  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which bitcoin gambling site is your favorite place to go? on: March 17, 2017, 06:26:38 PM
Bit-exo.com is my favorite site to go. Today I won over $290 worth of BTC from the jackpot. Allllriiiight.
Ah that site I remember playing a few times, nice chat community there though the layout was quite terrible when I last played there and I hope they improve it plus being it a moneypot controlled site their features are limited.

Anyways my personal best sportsbook is directbet and my favorite site for dice as of now is bitdice.me as heart near entertainments from there which was impossible sometimes back.
569  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: March 17, 2017, 05:52:23 PM
You guys can see the massive pump on most altcoins, their significant pumps tell everything, trading is the most profitable thing, much easier and less risky than gambling.

That's why I'll always prefer to go with trading rather than gambling. Because when it comes to gambling, I don't think that I'm lucky enough to win some good amount but with trading I can say that fate is with me. I just need to monitor my trades properly and just sell on the right time when seeing there's a pump.
In gambling you have a edge basically that always acts against you while in trading you the market and your brain, nothing is against you.

But trading has its own risks and actually sometimes more dangerous than gambling if you have no proper knowledge about coins or the assets you are investing in, I would say that doing bitcoins price trading is worth it but altcoins trading is just not worth it now a days.
570  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ANY STRATEGY TO WIN IN GAMBLING? on: March 17, 2017, 02:07:59 PM
is there any proven strategy to win at least $5 daily?
One serious advice mate, you have a red trust probably because you edited a topic having some paypal deal ( hacked accounts ) means you tried to scam .. and now you are looking for a gambling strategy that works,  please take my advice seriously mate that " to earn money you have to work harder" and looking for free money from gambling, scam operations would never help you financially nor mentally.
571  Economy / Economics / Re: Build a Bank Of Bitcoin on: March 15, 2017, 08:04:45 AM
In my opinion, if you build a bitcoin bank be sure to build bitcoin bank all over the world and can be accessible anytime anywhere... So people would patronize it.
i think we have already good access to bitcoin using the online wallet system. i it is very easy to access our bitcoin from anywhere just you need an internet connection and will be able to use your bitcoins in no time.
Yes the idea is great and the question OP asked is very very important as no one would deposit into a bank that is opened randomly and no actual trust is being build.

But that been said that is not a big concern as some way can be found via which both the users and the owners of the bank can access the funds yet not use it without each other's permission. People trust coinbase and other services for few bitcoins, no one will deposit 10k btc right ? That's why its important to sort this security issue.
572  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is 21million BTC really enough for the wole world? on: March 15, 2017, 06:56:52 AM
The total market cap is not enough to cover the whole population of the world, but that doesn't mean that it will get out of the game after getting the last bitcoin mined, but in fact, this would mean that the prices will go high like crazy and the coins will be spread in users at their least denomination, may be during that time, even an mBTC would cost more than $100.
Yes, bitcoins is an asset so that means the people who get into bitcoins first would have the biggest and best part of the cake and the guys who get into bitcoins late would just have the left over or I should say lesser amount of bitcoins. The problem is not the 21 million bitcoins but the miners would stop when all coins are mined and the transaction fee as mining reward will not be enough profitable for them.
573  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is a good investment now, because... on: March 15, 2017, 06:13:51 AM
it is the best investment. it is most safe & secure investment. people can get more benefits in long term bitcoin investment.

Most safe and secure investment? If this is a safe and secure investment, why did the ETF are dissaproved? If it is a safe and secure investment, it must be approved. Bitcoin's price are really unpredictable making it a really bad investment or asset.
Then what the fuck are you doing here ? If you don't trust or believe a coin then why are you earning some via your signature space dude ?

Anyways maybe you are unaware but bitcoins price has gone in the upper direction only. Please never make a statement when you can't back it, and people thinking that its not good investment because govt. does not allow it then please note that bitcoins are decentralized and hence the only reason being not accepted by legal government.
574  Economy / Speculation / Re: What will happen when 1 satoshi is $ 1? on: March 15, 2017, 01:28:06 AM
For a satoshi to go $1, even in our dreams, we need to assume Bitcoins to be reaching more than a billion dollar a piece.
Do you really think that would be possible ever? No arrangements are ever needed because even speculators can't speculate a bitcoin's price to ever be reaching even a million dollars, and you are talking about a billion here?
Yes and it's much more impossible because if this value is to be reached, then the total worth of bitcoins 21 million bitcoins would be unimaginable and hence it would be like dreaming impossible.

I was wondering how people think like that and actually are these threads even to get a genuine interest or just to provide more space for spammers ? Anyways reaching $10000 is possible but billion is impossible.
575  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think the transaction fee will kill bitcoin? on: March 14, 2017, 05:24:48 PM
Definitely it will have negative impact on Bitcoin especially on Bitcoin newbies and wouldbe's . It is a very important issue that needs addressing urgently and I hope the calls out there would be heard in due time.
I definitely think so, many people have chosen to use bitcoin because they were tired of the other payment methods which not only take forever to complete a transaction in, but also, they take like 3% on every one; and lately bitcoin has been going toward that idea and it is not good, so I hope this gets fixed.
576  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin overcome Paypal? on: March 14, 2017, 10:11:52 AM
We might never achieve what Paypal did since we still lack consensus up until now. Heck, we can't even decide when to move forward and how would we do it. Unless we can come up with a rather viable and attainable solution for scalability then we 'might' at the least achieve half of what Paypal could do
You are right though it feels bad to hear that. Actually the main problem with bitcoins is that none of the government are supporting or appreciating it for the obvious reason that it's decentralized and hence not in the control of government.

While Paypal runs as per the rules of the government and help them getting taxes so government much more promotes paypal than bitcoins.
577  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Best strategy for dice from faucet - Non self-moderated topic. on: March 14, 2017, 08:20:15 AM
I think you will have the best chance when using martingale. As you are using faucets, you can keep trying when you lose all and you will have a good chance to hit a lucky streak.

It will take a lot of bets though, but if you are using the auto bet settings, it should be very possible.

Martingale with faucet will only wasting time, faucet is just a small amount and probably he will only able to do martingale with 1satoshi as the basebet. Even though he hit lucky streak but the amount will be only small amount which is not worth compared to the time he spent.
Martingale strategy has never worked for most of the gamblers even with very big bankroll, so we cannot expect it will be working for faucet rewarded bankroll. There is a myth, to win with martingale strategy we just need bigger bankroll than gambling house, if it is the right statement, we must not consider martingale strategy to gamble with faucets.

Using faucets just for entertainment purpose and testing our strategies would be the right approach/strategy as most of the faucet earning are very small and could not be enough for withstanding against strategies.
578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Suggest me some good gambling site on: March 14, 2017, 07:48:58 AM
I am ready to invest in gambling site, just need a good paying site.

No Bro I Don't Prefer You to Gamble in Sites Because It depends Upon Your Luck and it Is  Not a Investment.....
And Many Trusted Sites Turn Into Scam When They Got Some Trust and the  Users Remain With No Capital.....
You do have a point but seeing on the most reputable casinos or gambling sites as of now i can say that they wont turn to scam so easily specially to those who are already been here for many months on years already.Just like to the site that im wearing on my signature,its really trust worthy and provably fair.
You even know how big scam had been against the site in your signature dude ?
They robbed a guy since they used third party games and actually when you use third party games you must have the bankroll to honour winnings of your own pocket in case the third party scams which betcoin.ag failed badly. I am quite sure though I might be forgetting things here, so forgive me if that was not the case of betcoin.
579  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If money would not be a problem, would you still gamble? on: March 14, 2017, 06:17:04 AM
If money would not be a problem, i would still gamble but i would only play for fun. Also, ill put a limitation so that i wont get broke just because of gambling. Just play fun and  trying to double your money even though money is not a problem.
How can you be broke if money is not a problem anymore? Surely that you will play just to take some fun out of it , theres no bearing even you lose a lot only thing is you will have a huge chances in winning coming from it so martingale will be the best strategy to win.
The problem here is that none of us has actually experienced a point in life when they didn't cared for money and hence even when we are discussing the topic of "money not an issue" they still put limits to avoid being broke.
I myself would have gambled too had I got no issues of money because I have no job right now and hence the best way to kill/pass time is gambling.
580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: March 14, 2017, 05:17:55 AM
people gamble because they love to win, they love the chase on a slot to win a jackpot, they think gambling will make them millionaires and not pay attention to the fact that the odds are stacked against them because they love the chase too much.
Actually even though we all know that we are expected to loose there is a healthy chance of winning too obviously, that little chance of winning is what makes us gamble, no matter what we think.

Because we know that we indeed can get lucky and win a lot of money, you can do all the debates and discussions but actually the truth is that it's true that we can even win 1 million dollars a day with gambling, isn't it ?
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