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561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 25, 2015, 01:06:38 AM
you guys are noobs at this why even question it, as if this is some altruistic honesty game?

fun fact: practically all US financial regulation was created because the savvy investors in new york were taking advantage of the unsophisticated farmers in the midwest. it's really surprising to me that this shit still works "Hey this person talk about money alot he must know what he's talking about, I should listen to everything he says like it's gospel"

This is a speculation thread. Questioning it is sort of the point.
562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 25, 2015, 01:03:11 AM
I really appreciate the warning, but heres what I would do: wait longer than I originally announced so most trigger-happy, short-term speculators would start to get dumpey and when prices are near of even bellow my original announcement I would start mass-buying, boom surprise Cheesy

Even if he let the price fall back to 0011 it wouldn't really make much difference when you consider the effect of buying 400 btc worth of xmr.
563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 25, 2015, 12:50:24 AM
He says it was to give investors a fair opportunity to get in before making his move. However, I think everyone's had more than enough time, and we might have been better off not knowing.

Another possibility is that Risto was merely attempting to create a buy panic and had no intentions of directly manipulating the price.
564  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 25, 2015, 12:37:56 AM
Price is at 0014 and falling. Looks like everyone has secured their positions after RP's announcement, and have returned to watching and waiting.

Despite Risto's positive intentions with the announcement, we may have been better off not knowing the source of any future price increase. What may have been viewed as "renewed interest" is now just seen as "Risto pumping the price."
565  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 24, 2015, 11:35:51 PM
Hypothetical Question:

Not taking into consideration current adoption or first mover advantage but comparing two crypto currencies hypothetically conceived at the same time with the same particulars (emission, etc.) one with a public ledger such as bitcoin and one with a private untraceable one which one would be valued higher and why?



What people think is important changes constantly. Decentralized and trustless systems are interesting right now because people are starting to get weary of being subject to the whims of banks and government bailouts. However, future events may increase demand for centralized banking and trust-based systems in general.

Privacy is no different. It's a hot topic right now, but who knows what we will find important down the line.

The main takeaway here is that even if these technologies fall out of popularity, we will always have them in our back pocket should the need arise.
566  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 24, 2015, 09:23:54 PM
500 XMR @ $2
500 XMR @ $20
500 XMR @ $200
500 XMR @ $2,000 (gain $1 million)
500 XMR @ $20,000 (gain $10 Mm)
500 XMR @ $200,000 except since at this point you are set for life plus have XMR that is worth 100 million in purchasing power, it's hardly necessary to sell it unless you need something.

Daymn I want what you are smoking.  Grin

Get it here https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xmr


You can smoke it?! brb
567  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Moolah Scam on Mintpal - MintpalJustice.com - Report Missing Funds on: February 24, 2015, 10:41:53 AM
So at best it's old news, and at worst it's a complete fabrication.

Plot twist: Ryan Kennedy isn't a real person. He's Ferdous' alter ego. You heard it here first.
568  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DRK vs XMR warez on: February 24, 2015, 08:57:53 AM
I don't know anything about monero, I don't want to know either. Too many fucking shills pumping the coin.

So you don't want to know about the coin because too many people are enthusiastic about it?

If you're saying you're jaded by all the hype of crypto scams, I totally understand you there. But the project has been around for a while now and the developers have shown no lack of honesty and professionalism.

I'm not trying to pick a fight. I just want to understand your logic.
569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DRK vs XMR warez on: February 24, 2015, 02:59:09 AM
any coin that begs for money for the developer is a shitcoin.
Satoshi never did and I hold all developers to that standard.
Don't develop it than if you can't handle not getting handouts back from it.

You have no idea who Satoshi is, nor whether he (or they) got paid.

If you'd rather developers steal coins from their users in the form of pre/insta-mines as opposed to asking for contributions, then you have a plethora of options. The rest of us have XMR.
570  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 23, 2015, 11:52:41 PM
As a software developer I still refuse to pronounce GUI as "gooey." It doesn't seem like an acronym that was ever intended to be pronounced as a word. Plus it just sounds stupid and I feel stupid saying it  Cheesy

Gee, you and I both, buddy.

Ba dum tish
571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 23, 2015, 11:37:17 PM
As a software developer I still refuse to pronounce GUI as "gooey." It doesn't seem like an acronym that was ever intended to be pronounced as a word. Plus it just sounds stupid and I feel stupid saying it  Cheesy
572  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 22, 2015, 10:14:12 PM
I'd guess whether or not a $100k investment would help xmr would depend on how deep we are in this bear market. You might buy the price up to 0.004 and just watch it gradually slip back down to .001. On the other hand, if the timing is right, it might be the bump that gets everyone's attention.

I think xmr has plenty of awareness within the cryptosphere, but everyone's kind of sitting and waiting for something to happen.

Also, regarding the GUI, I think it's much less important now than it was 6 or 8 months ago. Beyond a certain point of development, far more people will use third party services that fit their needs more appropriately than those who will rely on the official client running a full node.

I'd say the most important "features" to have at this point are more web APIs and services that make monero integration as painless and easy as possible.
573  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Moolah Scam on Mintpal - MintpalJustice.com - Report Missing Funds on: February 21, 2015, 09:14:08 PM
Ferdous still controlls the v1 wallets. He told me via PM he was planning to setup a withdrawl page, but that was over a month ago.
574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 20, 2015, 10:27:09 PM
I have download this shit, but its very very slow, by darkcoin ists realy realy faster.

I will 5k Fiat change to xmr, but its so slow.

IS mymonero.com 100% safe?  Thy safest Place is my extra Notebook for coins, only online to buy or sell

mymonero.com is plenty safe. The only difference is mymonero knows your viewkey, so it's not the best option for anonymity.

If you do use mymonero.com, just be sure to save your spend key in addition to your mnemonic seed, in case the site goes down you can still recover your wallet.
575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 19, 2015, 10:02:33 PM
What would be great is a "send btc using xmr.to" option in mymonero.
576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: February 09, 2015, 12:59:59 AM
I have a House, a car, a good job a wife and 2 children. I think i am rich!!

Whoa, let's pump the brakes, shall we? Your worldview is far too positive for this forum.
577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: January 09, 2015, 07:34:55 PM
... but it's not the highest priority at the moment, as payment IDs don't leak anything of significance ...

A unique payment ID will reveal all associated transactions, which can give away the total payment amount. This kind of defeats the purpose of the denominated transactions, doesn't it?
578  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: January 03, 2015, 12:39:05 AM
To make my point as clear as possible, openBazaar devs could easily make the same exact statement about Monero as TacoTime did about openBazaar:

Quote from: TacoTime
I certainly wouldn't support this, and if the rest of the core team did I would probably leave the core team. Privacy is a design component of Monero there for numerous other reasons than to break laws, just as it is for Tor. OpenBazaar is an experiment on top of the Bitcoin protocol, and if it becomes the de facto world standard for illegal drug marketplaces I certainly wouldn't want such a thing intertwined with Monero on any level.

See what I mean?

Quote from: nobody
If Monero becomes the de facto world standard for illegal drug trade I certainly wouldn't want such a thing intertwined with openBazaar on any level.
579  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: January 03, 2015, 12:28:36 AM
I agree with you insofar as my own moral foundation stands.  But a core value for me is freedom, and I would not assume to dictate to the users or markets how they use a cryptocurrency.

I rather see the neutral aspect of Monero being a digital cash for transactions which benefit from privacy.  It is a use case agnostic position.  

Certainly I can't control how anyone uses it, but I would not personally support such endeavours.

Has this account been hijacked?

So what your saying is you don't support fiat? It is used daily to murder rape and pillage.

How is this being made into an issue?

I agree that including open/free bazaar features in the official wallet is not a good move. I also don't expect the core team to condone illicit activity in any way.

What alarms me is TacoTime's hasty objection to decentralized marketplaces, but not to the decentralized private currency he's currently working on.

He then throws out the word 'intimidation' in a statement that alone could be interpreted as threatening or intimidating. It makes me wonder if he himself is under some kind of duress.

If it were anyone else, I'd assume his comments were made in bad judgement. But this is a person who seems to choose his words very carefully.
580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - 0.8.8.6 on: January 02, 2015, 10:12:08 PM
This is precisely why Monero exists, to be actual virtual cash.

What you just suggested, however, is that Monero is nothing close to virtual cash. You're effectively saying it only behaves like cash if I use it within the legal boundaries of whatever corrupt jurisdiction I happen to be transacting in.

If governments wanted to shut down Monero tomorrow they could by computational attacks or by intimidation. Monero has bigger reasons for existing than to simply help you buy things online that are illegal.

Actual cash behaves like cash regardless of how I use it.
Cash can be made illegal very easily. It suffices to change banknotes and coins - something that is done routinely for decades, by the way.
So Monero IS like cash. Like cash, a decision to make it illegal can damage it.
If you want something impervious to legal action, look for comodity money (actual like, not precious metals which do not have true real life use) or more likely for bartering (cigarette works wonders when SHTF).
Update: now that I think of it, bartering could be made illegal too.

There's a difference between making something illegal and enforcing it.

Cash can be made illegal, but governments can't (easily) stop people from using it. I think the only reason banks still print physical money is because if they didn't something else would take it's place.

Monero (as a virtual cash) should be usable regardless of whether governments are okay with it. To me that's the entire point.
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