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561  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 19, 2018, 07:14:12 PM
I have asked myself if you can build a platform for arbitrage trading and exploit all that potential to make a lot of money for your customers, why don't you just do it yourself and not disclose the code to the public and let them benefit?


It’s all about the numbers.. if you do it on your own you cannot earn such big money. Quite obvious that 10 guys on average have more money than 1 single man. When you have more money in trading you have more flexibility and have more options where to invest, which instrument to buy etc.. you may also lower the risks. You probably cannot do great things on your own because of a huge competitiveness. If you are alone then you must trade against huge companies which understand how to steal money from little investors Smiley Cooperation here brings lots of advantages. And if you run such a company you do not risk your own money. The idea is not the only thing that brings success

Let's assume for a second the system is as bullet-proof as you say. Profits are guaranteed! Why don't you pitch this to a multibillionaire and tell him that you developed a money printing machine which you would now want to sell to him.

Because it's all about rewarding the little guys, for the Daddy Warbucks in this space have enough. HOW FUCKIN NOBLE OF THEM !!!
562  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 19, 2018, 07:11:44 PM
Too many questions here, i have another one i wanna hear more about - the speed of your platfotm, not much said here but think it can be a central issue
of course speed/latency is vital for any kind of arbitrage, but with a nice trade algorithm speed is not in the first place

How did you miss it? Arbitao stated that they will locate their servers as close to the 19 exchanges' servers as humanly possible so to decrease latency.
563  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 19, 2018, 07:07:59 PM
Well, since you consider your pools in USD the reasonable question is what happens to the investors if crypto fluctuates a lot. Imagine I invested $100 so I must in the ‘worst’ pool. After BTC sharply goes down and so I am out of the pool? Do you fix the rates when investors join the platform?

By following the telegram chat they explained that  the investment and the profits will be secured in USD, which means that it doesnt matter in which direction it goes, you will get stable profits. In my opinion it is not possible to get kicked out of the pool as your investment is in USD.

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Do you fix the rates when investors join the platform?

On the website they are stating daily interests but they also state that it may change. In my opinion this is reasonable as you cannot know hwo market will develop.

There are really nice discounts for the PRE-ICO. Then people can invest in the pools immediately. When they realize the profits i even think that the dump afterwards will not be big, because of flippening.

Couldn't help but noticed that your two accounts were created on the same day only ~3 hours apart. What are the odd?
564  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hashcard.io a scam [Confirmed] on: June 19, 2018, 07:03:37 PM
Can someone enlighten me why are people still posting update on hashcard when it has been confirmed a scam?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3333922.8900

Dude, I'm still trying to figure out why FOX embraces Trump.

Disclosure: I lean right.
565  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Arbitao is 100% a SCAM !!! on: June 19, 2018, 06:54:22 PM
So firstly I liked Arbitao because it looks nice (indeed). I also thought like YuTü just came as an ordinary hater. However, thanks, man. I haven’t found any reasons why it’s not a scam. I was not familiar with Ponzi scheme at all but did a little research. So.. yes, suppose, it is.
And sorry man

I'm not a hater of any of its team members or concept, and it may not even be a Ponzi. I dissed the project upon seeing red flags over and beyond what's presented in the OP, echoed and confirmed by others in this space, their combined efforts uncovering other red flags, including one FUCKIN GIANT CLOCK.  Grin

Bruno

PS: This episode reminds of me one of my favorite songs when I was a kid back in the 60s --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9PsJm-oRAM

England swings like a pendulum do
Bobbies on bicycles, two by two
Westminster Abbey the tower of Big Ben
The rosy red cheeks of the little children

Now, if you huff and puff and you finally save enough money
Up to take your family on a trip across the sea
Take a tip before you take your trip
Let me tell you where to go, go to England, oh

England swings like a pendulum do
Bobbies on bicycles, two by two
Westminster Abbey the tower of Big Ben
The rosy red cheeks of the little children

Mama's old pajamas and your papa's mustache
Falling out the window sill, frolic in the grass
Tryin' to mock the way they talk fun but all in vain
Gaping at the dapper men with derby hats and canes

England swings like a pendulum do
Bobbies on bicycles, two by two
Westminster Abbey the tower of Big Ben
The rosy red cheeks of the little children
566  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Arbitao is 100% a SCAM !!! on: June 19, 2018, 06:49:04 PM
give us 24 hours to answer all your questions
24 hours later...

They are shooting new pictures in NY, have some patience



You fucker !!!!!!!!!

You just made me send you 1 sM cuz your post made me laugh.

Get the fuck outta here.  Tongue Tongue Tongue

PS: Nice shop skills.
567  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Arbitao is 100% a SCAM !!! on: June 19, 2018, 06:45:34 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4467190.280  Actually I just spent half my night grading their campaign early and closing it. I was made aware of all this yesterday by Marlboroza and was keeping up with this thread as well as their ANN thread. Seems like the team decided not to answer the questions asked by Gleb, Suchmoon, and Marlboroza as well as others.

Rather then take the risk and keep their campaign open, it is now closed.

Holy fuckin shit, bud. I didn't expect this, just now catching up with the latest. I'll admit, I came damn close to digging you a asshole (in my mind to do such publicly) upon learning yesterday that you'll be manning their campaign. I'm now glad that I didn't do such, albeit would've been easily retractable.

Bravo, bud.

Bruno

PS: Again, I haven't read the latest, thus the above is subject to change, but here's to hoping such won't be the case.
568  Economy / Reputation / Re: Gleb Gamow account was sold Proof on: June 19, 2018, 06:38:32 PM
Hey Bruno. How much you need to pay all your debts that are related to your account ? Do you remember that thread from Theymos regarding  new rank requirements (April Fools) ? There was a post that Gleb wins the award for best Bitcointalker overall! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3232693.msg33729235#msg33729235 I'm just interested if Bruno repays all his debts here, will DT members remove red tags from his profile and can we give that profile back to Bruno ?  

I'm replying to mosprognoz's post publicly, opting to not PM him/her in the spirit of full transparency. Please contact DarkStar_ and suchmoon in learning what you seek.

I'm on record in stating that I've NEVER accepted a single satoshi for my efforts as a scam buster in this space over the course of seven-plus years. That said, I'm willing to consider such an outlay - if comes to fruition - the first time I've been compensated for said services which I truly have, and continue enjoying doing. Whether true or not, scam busting with the PG and GG user accounts may carry more weight needed to smack the side of heads of Investards ready to partake in obvious rogue crypto entities based solely on fluff, e.g. Arbitao, in citing such, ready to garner U$45M during its upcoming ICO.

Thanks for your support, mosprognoz, over and beyond any monetary actions which may or may not see light. Seriously, I'm cool either way.

Bruno
569  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 19, 2018, 07:28:11 AM
I wanna hear the explanation of op why did he get red flags from a DT member? However,  i want to support the project but need further explanation so that i can advertise the project since i am a participant of the campaign.

Good luck with that given that he's been AWOL for over 24 hours (PST) ...

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Name:   Arbitao
Posts:   68
Activity:   28
Merit:   0
Position:   Copper Member
Date Registered:   May 03, 2018, 05:52:41 AM
Last Active:   June 18, 2018, 02:10:29 PM

So tell us, Mr. 6-21, what proof do you need in proving that Arbitao is a scam? Thanks to my and others' efforts, we'll save Investards moneys, whereas your effort will cost them moneys.
570  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Arbitao is 100% a SCAM !!! on: June 19, 2018, 02:24:10 AM
I'll just add a few more questions Smiley

Why is your github profile (https://github.com/arbitao/) empty, and why is the ATAO-core repository linked in your whitepaper (https://github.com/arbitao/atao-core) nowhere to be found?
If I was to invest in your pre-ico, wouldn't that mean buying ATAO coins that are supposedly stored in an ATAO-core wallet? How would I do so since the wallet does not exist?
Should I not be able to see the source code before pledging my money to your project, to verify the code matches the promises made in the whitepaper?



I'm not the one who caught it, bud. tmfp did. I'm just driving the point home.
I know (thus my quoting tmfp right before), you started this thread though/raised the issues.

I stand corrected, bud, thanking you from both of us. Good questions, BTW.

The current time on Big Ben according to Chicago is 25 or 6 to 4, but Does Anybody Really Know What Time it Is?
571  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 19, 2018, 01:51:56 AM
The distribution of profit of Arbitao is really awesome. It has different bounty programmes, which i like most. And its coin price is reasonable.

I like that there's no shills with a British accent in this thread. Oh, and such logo.
572  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Arbitao is 100% a SCAM !!! on: June 19, 2018, 01:45:45 AM
We strictly want to have our own written terms and conditions and all the content but our team member copied some parts and gave the explanation which I mentioned, please bear with us and give us 24 hours to answer all your questions, being a fair project we are not going to hide anywhere.


Just one thing, like most of the UK, the Big Ben tower is falling to pieces


Nice catch, btw.



It's good to still have you around, Bruno.

I'm not the one who caught it, bud. tmfp did. I'm just driving the point home.


Jan. 2018: Scaffolding.

May 2018: No scaffolding.

Today: Scaffolding.


"Wilson, I just got the contract to erect the scaffolding around Big Ben, I have to take it down for a couple ball cuppers come May, then erect the damn thing once again.

I need a business licence in the UK before I start erecting?

If nobody asks to see one, then I don't have to produce one, eh?"
573  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Arbitao is 100% a SCAM !!! on: June 19, 2018, 01:14:51 AM

According to https://www.parliament.uk/about/living-heritage/building/palace/big-ben/elizabeth-tower-and-big-ben-conservation-works-2017-/all-your-questions-about-the-works-answered/#jump-link-8 ...

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When will the scaffolding be erected?

The erection of scaffolding began in April 2017.

How long will it take to put up the scaffolding?

We expect scaffold construction to be complete in 2018.

Since Team Arbitao wants us to believe that they're true to their word, they'll soon be in this thread to address questions and concerns anew, starting with ...

Where is the link to your charter in the UK?

Why is there not any scaffolding around Big Ben behind John and Karel?

Why is John and Karel cupping their balls? Is it because they're waiting for a scaffold erection?
574  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 19, 2018, 12:47:13 AM
Seems good project! А very excellent logo, brilliant project.  Good luck all!

Thanks, Mr. 6-4, for your brilliant insight.

Meanwhile, ...


"The Tao of Abs. I'm McLovin it!"
575  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 11:06:18 PM
I wish you advance. Very nice project, sensible activity, unblemished design.

Thanks, Mr. 6-3, for you irrefutable unblemished insight.

Where do Investards go and what do they do after sending Arbitao their precious, you ask? This --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs2j8f7H2WY
576  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 10:16:18 PM

I'll admit that that's some trading bot Al. Look at all them successful trades of various pairs on different exchanges executed at exactly 15:04:44, of which, BTW, was not all of them, capturing what was only on the scene for a brief moment during the rapid dynamic scrolling.

Meanwhile, Team Arbitao is like ...


"UK business charter? WE DON'T HAVE TO SHOW NO STINKIN' BUSINESS CHARTER !!!
Now if you excuse us, we need to politely address our shills' replies."

577  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 09:59:37 PM
Oh my... you are just really funny man  Grin Grin
You can google it I suppose. And find out whether it is possible to use are here or not.
Actually I’m not sure about what you are doing here. What is your target? Your message?
Are you the founder of your own project? Is it a part of your marketing strategy?

Gulp! I guess one could use Google as you suggested in finding out whether "team Arbitao are just trying" or "team Arbitao is just trying" are correct, but ...


Meanwhile, ...

Sadly, I'm in the US, thus unable to access their trading platform.  Cry Cry Cry Cry

Arbitao security bot aka AI has successfully locked me out from joining the site because I'm in the US.

I've never in my life have seen such security in all my years on the Net.

I mean, the Arbitao site asked me if I'm a US citizen and I clicked yes, whereupon no joy.  Cry Cry Cry Them fuckers are good!

WAIT !!!

I have an idea. What if I ... BRB.

Okay, I'm in by tricking the security bot/AI, clinking the box declaring that I'm not a US citizens. Believe me when I say my balls were sweating for the two whole seconds the site took to approve my application. In essence, maybe I hacked their site.  Roll Eyes

Anyway, now that I'm in like Flint, I took a look-see at their live trades. At first glance, I was taken aback in seeing the millions I could be making via their platform until, that is, I realized within 1.5 seconds exactly what I was viewing - RSS feeds of select trades via APIs of exchanges (hence their phrase "working with these exchanges"). A simply script is employed to display the arb percentages is all. NONE of those trades are/were/or ever will be executed by us mere mortals.

User Arbitao replying to a shill's post in 5 ..... 4 .... 3 ...
578  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Arbitao is 100% a SCAM !!! on: June 18, 2018, 09:52:42 PM
Sadly, I'm in the US, thus unable to access their trading platform.  Cry Cry Cry Cry

Arbitao security bot aka AI has successfully locked me out from joining the site because I'm in the US.

I've never in my life have seen such security in all my years on the Net.

I mean, the Arbitao site asked me if I'm a US citizen and I clicked yes, whereupon no joy.  Cry Cry Cry Them fuckers are good!

WAIT !!!

I have an idea. What if I ... BRB.

Okay, I'm in by tricking the security bot/AI, clinking the box declaring that I'm not a US citizens. Believe me when I say my balls were sweating for the two whole seconds the site took to approve my application. In essence, maybe I hacked their site.  Roll Eyes

Anyway, now that I'm in like Flint, I took a look-see at their live trades. At first glance, I was taken aback in seeing the millions I could be making via their platform until, that is, I realized within 1.5 seconds exactly what I was viewing - RSS feeds of select trades via APIs of exchanges (hence their phrase "working with these exchanges"). A simply script is employed to display the arb percentages is all. NONE of those trades are/were/or ever will be executed by us mere mortals.

User Arbitao replying to a shill's post in 5 ..... 4 .... 3 ...
579  Economy / Reputation / Re: Gleb Gamow account was sold Proof on: June 18, 2018, 08:54:16 PM
I did confirm that the account was for sale at one time but nixxed that course of action with digaran insisting that I come clean as to who the buyer was when there wasn't one.

Could you explain who was that garbage poster who posted with your account and tried to join chipmixer campaign with a non segwit address? you said on your AGLD account that you already sold a few low ranking accounts, who bought them? could you give us their names so that we could tag them as well? I am with second and third chances, I want to exonerate you the right way, confess to your past crimes and be free from all the charges.

If you never sold your account then why did you reset your password several times between the times of posting with AGLD account telling people that your legendary account was still available? why did you say that theymos helped you to get back your compromised accounts? did he really help you and without knowing it he also helped you to get back the accounts you sold already? or did you just lie to our faces?


Also I would like to ask you, what is your relationship with the fake Satoshi Craig Wright or whatever his name is? are you in bed with Bitcash cartel as well? these are the questions I like to know their answers.

Wow! Like holy shit WOWWWWWWWWWWWWW !!! I haven't a clue as to how you figured out that I'm in bed with the Fake Satoshi Craig Wright. But given that you did, I think it's prudent that I come clean before digaran provides the proof as to who I really am.

I am theymos. Here's proof. My alt accounts under the nym Bruno and I both do the following ...

580  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][PRE-ICO] ARBITAO: The New Way of Arbitrage Trading on: June 18, 2018, 08:45:22 PM

But I am really disappointed because of skepticism around the project, especially the words of member of high ranks regarding their experience Huh

You should never be disappointed by skepticism my friend, but beware complacency and assumption at all times.
Our experience of arbitrage schemes in Bitcoin?
The perfect 10/10, I think. Scams, that is.

Anyway, yeah quite a few words from some of us, back to basics.

from the other thread

please let us know the UK company name of your employer.

Yeah, like who are Arbitao?
A supposedly London based 'entity', asking for $$zillions$$, which has no company registration, no address, no legal existence in any shape or form that they can/will provide. Even in ICOland, that's ridiculous.

Ok, I think.. what if I want to run my own ICO. I have an idea, do not have enough funds obviously. What should I do? To register a company? I suppose not. However, you are right, if they have a company they work for why not to specify on it. Moreover, if they are successful enough, why not to provide with the great results (if they do have such results), with some history of trading. But I saw so many projects with even idea only, without a business background. They were quite successful

I just can’t come up with the idea that team Arbitao are just trying to deceive someone. Probably I’m not experienced enough, or just not enough being Sherlock. But I don’t see any real bad things except one guy who blinks too much and another who doesn’t at all Cheesy Cheesy

I see what we did wrong. We gave too many crayons to dudes who don't know the difference between 'are' or 'is' when asking them to color within the lines in copying us as we paint a not-so-pretty picture of Arbitao.

That said, please pick only one crayon color and don't worry about staying within in the lines as we present to you a simply lesson ...

https://www.linkedin.com/company/arbitao/

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About us

Arbitao is a company headquartered in London with offices in Moscow and Hong Kong. We are harnessing the blockchain technology to help ordinary people achieve the extraordinary. We believe in teamwork but we treat one another with respect, value diversity and recognize that different people bring different perspectives, ideas and knowledge to the workplace.

For us, the interests of our community come first, and we are always ready to hear how we can improve. We believe innovation and invention is the only way to empower people to achieve more. Our goal for the next few years is to assist our end-users in creating a secure financial future for themselves and help them live the best version of their respective lives.

Arbitao is a company based in the UK.

The community has asked for the link so to view their charter.

Arbitao saw our questions.

Arbitao addresses replies to others, some most likely shills, ignoring said request.

Noriman comes on the scene and doesn't see how Arbitao is deceiving the community.

Bruno helps Noriman in seeing the light.

If Noriman doesn't see the light, he needs to exit the gene pool ASAP. PENDING
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