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5681  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 26, 2014, 12:09:17 AM
Decided I'll sell 50% of my gold tomorrow and buy 4-5 BTC with the cash  Grin

I think you will be positioned well, if you can hit BTC top then you will be sitting pretty on even more gold in some months. Good luck!

the good news is i think he's hitting a BTC bottom.
5682  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 26, 2014, 12:08:43 AM
Gold Dealer Drops Credit Card Payments For Bitcoin

http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/25/gold-dealer-drops-credit-card-payments-for-bitcoin/
5683  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 11:50:32 PM
Decided I'll sell 50% of my gold tomorrow and buy 4-5 BTC with the cash  Grin

current futures price.  down $2:

5684  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 11:18:04 PM
"interestingly, if Bitcoin only holds steady from here, i will have done better than him.

edit: for alot less work and headache. such is the power of the network effect of money."

Cypherdoc, because he is/was an astute investor, and given his son in law can advise him better than most about btc, what percentage of his portfolio is now invested in bitcoins?


he's too old and set in his ways as an immigrant.  he, unfortunately, could never begin to understand Bitcoin.

he never listened to me about gold so i've never talked to him about Bitcoin.  he does see that gold could've been good for him, though, at the time.  but now it's too late for that game.

sounds similar to my own parents. They both have a degree in economics, but I never could get them to invest in gold - which I've been telling them to do since 2007 (hey I'm young..). They'd rather have all of their money in banks. Go figure, but that's how bad "education" in economics messes up your judgement. This is why I don't even bother to talk to them about Bitcoin. And I talk about Bitcoin to everyone. I'm just waiting for the day when they finally ask me if I heard about this Bitcoin-thing (which I expect will occur once the price is an order of magnitude or so higher than today).

you don't need to talk to them about it but at least let them know you've been involved since whenever.

that might actually pique their interest to consult with you the next time they inevitably read about it.
5685  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 09:31:06 PM
“South Korea has a booming e-commerce market and was an early adopter of virtual goods. The government supports innovation and even the banking foundation is invested in Korbit."

http://techcrunch.com/2014/08/25/korean-bitcoin-exchange-korbit-raises-3m-series-a/?ncid=twittersocialshare
5686  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 09:24:08 PM
When the Winki BTC ETF goes live and starts sucking up BTC/IRA/institutional funds, will the impact be more like that of GLD/SLV on metals or Mortgage Backed Securities, etc. on real estate?

the former
5687  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 08:59:18 PM
https://twitter.com/cypherdoc2/status/504010024554074112
5688  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 08:55:30 PM
i seriously don't understand who these ppl think they are:

"The search tool was designed to be the largest system for internally sharing secret surveillance records in the United States, capable of handling two to five billion new records every day, including more than 30 different kinds of metadata on emails, phone calls, faxes, internet chats, and text messages, as well as location information collected from cellphones. Metadata reveals information about a communication—such as the “to” and “from” parts of an email, and the time and date it was sent, or the phone numbers someone called and when they called—but not the content of the message or audio of the call."

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/08/25/icreach-nsa-cia-secret-google-crisscross-proton/

5689  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 08:34:49 PM
i seriously don't understand who these ppl think they are:

"The search tool was designed to be the largest system for internally sharing secret surveillance records in the United States, capable of handling two to five billion new records every day, including more than 30 different kinds of metadata on emails, phone calls, faxes, internet chats, and text messages, as well as location information collected from cellphones. Metadata reveals information about a communication—such as the “to” and “from” parts of an email, and the time and date it was sent, or the phone numbers someone called and when they called—but not the content of the message or audio of the call."

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/article/2014/08/25/icreach-nsa-cia-secret-google-crisscross-proton/
5690  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 08:19:01 PM
then show him Kochlakota's Money as Memory paper

Only had time to skim the conclusions right now, but this looks to be a fascinating read and I'm very much looking forward to it. Thank you for sharing. Any other recommendations on reading?

here's the Wences video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NERAN-89j8M
5691  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 08:16:52 PM
then show him Kochlakota's Money as Memory paper

Only had time to skim the conclusions right now, but this looks to be a fascinating read and I'm very much looking forward to it. Thank you for sharing. Any other recommendations on reading?

well, like i said Kocherlakota's paper dovetails with this:  http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2275730
5692  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 07:47:27 PM


My own father is so mentally tied to the FED that I'm not even sure how to even bring Bitcoin up as a discussion topic with him without a crazy negative reaction. This mindset was drilled into him by his parents who lived through FDR's re-education.

why should it be so hard now that the Fed semi-regularly talks about Bitcoin?  show him the positive statements in their report from the Spring.  he can't argue with a published document from them.

then show him Kochlakota's Money as Memory paper and then the Bitcoin is Memory paper.
5693  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 07:43:07 PM
most that volume is the fed and quant traders.. seems like we are coming to a textbook no demand situation in volume analysis.

i know.

so how do you remain so bullish in the face of this?
5694  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 07:09:05 PM
10 yr chart:  what of volume on the Dow?  terrible:

5695  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 07:00:52 PM
Buying a home at any time in the last 50 years would've been a good move except in years 2007, 2008:

www.census.gov/const/uspriceann.pdf

My father in law is a multi millionaire having bought primarily commercial real estate starting back then in LA.  Now his kids get a handsome annuity check monthly. It's amazing how long these trends keep going.

Dammit.  I did NOT choose my parents very well.

well, it's not like i get any of that.  he set up a bypass trust where all his inheritance will go to his grand kids.
5696  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 06:57:23 PM
https://twitter.com/cypherdoc2/status/503979254057799680
5697  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 06:43:14 PM
"interestingly, if Bitcoin only holds steady from here, i will have done better than him.

edit: for alot less work and headache. such is the power of the network effect of money."

Cypherdoc, because he is/was an astute investor, and given his son in law can advise him better than most about btc, what percentage of his portfolio is now invested in bitcoins?


he's too old and set in his ways as an immigrant.  he, unfortunately, could never begin to understand Bitcoin.

he never listened to me about gold so i've never talked to him about Bitcoin.  he does see that gold could've been good for him, though, at the time.  but now it's too late for that game.
5698  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 06:38:29 PM
Jackson Hole:

"Blinder said there’s a “vigorous debate” among economists and investors about how sluggish the labor market still is. Its surprising strength suggests “we are closer to Fed liftoff than we were a year ago” and rates probably will be increased early next year, he said.

Interviews with other Fed officials in Jackson Hole showed a widening split over the outlook.
"

"Unlike Yellen, and with euro-area unemployment at 11.5 percent, Draghi said ECB policy makers “stand ready to adjust our policy stance further” after the 18-nation economy stalled in the second quarter."

"In a sign of mounting concern over too-low inflation, he said investor bets on inflation had “exhibited significant declines at all horizons” this month. Price gains are running at less than a quarter of the ECB’s goal of just below 2 percent, potentially risking a deflationary spiral if consumers and companies pull back spending in anticipation of even weaker price pressures.

Draghi’s remarks reinforced speculation that the ECB will eventually start quantitative easing even after acting in June to cut interest rates to record lows and line up more cheap loans for banks."


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-24/jackson-hole-message-is-labor-markets-don-t-justify-higher-rates.html
5699  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 06:15:27 PM
ok, just had to post this pic.  that's badass:



http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/188479-astronauts-find-living-organisms-clinging-to-the-international-space-station-and-arent-sure-how-they-got-there
5700  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: August 25, 2014, 05:50:21 PM
thing is, u can see it happening, slow motion.  esp w/ this thing going on:

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