You are right, it is an obvious case of thread bumping. Majority of accounts used have been made few years ago and now they suddenly decided to appear on that thread and fake the interest and "working" mostly in that thread. Anyway, thank you for letting me know, Baex Dapp ANN has been added to the list. Moderators should go hardline with projects doing these kinds of spams! I agree that we should have stricter rules for this but well, it is what is, we can still reduce that spam by reporting posts as sometimes they get bored of that and give up. It is rare, but it happens. |
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It's already done  I think I took it ahead this time and I started reporting since yesterday all the posts of all the members mentioned by you and Bitcoin_Arena. Yeah I noticed that majority was gone when I checked the topic . I also see that you(probably) seriosuly reduced ZYX ANN, and that one is especially annoying. Firstly because they are ponzi, and secondly because they are using those services for months now. After a few hours reporting marathon I ended up with 870 reports. There were just a few posts remaining to be reported from Bitcoin_Arena's list. I think someone else took it ahead of me too lol. Mods are already working on these posts. As far as I see they keep deleting them.[/quote[
Yeah I was also reporting them, but not as many as you lol, that's some serious effort, good job man and keep it up! By the way, when you have some free time on your hands and feel like reporting, you might wanna check ANN threads that are using bumping services. I am keeping that list regularly updated with all the latest findings. We always wanted to make this efficient as possible, I wonder if something changed or still we have to report all spammy posts one by one?
We still have to report posts one by one, no other way unfortunately. Luckily there are plenty of us reporting so it's manageable. I don't know if you are using @suchmoon [HACK] One-click mod report, not for the faint of heart , but that can also help and speed up the process. |
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Thanks for reporting this @Rikafip. I am also going to tag the bump accounts. As if the warnings were not enough, @PrimeBitExchange decided to wake up more bump accounts to continue with the fake buzz.
Honestly I don't think that Primebit is in the control of those bumping accounts because they are working on other threads as well, as I showed on that table. If they are really Primebit's accounts, they would solely focus on that thread, and not work on others, as among them there are pure ponzi scams, like ZYX Network. What's bad though is the fact that @PrimeBitExchange was online recently and active on thread but he conveniently decided to ignore your warning. That service that is behind all this bumping woke up new accounts because old ones have been tagged. That's their standard practice, I've seen it many times before. If you tag newly awoken ones, they will simply add new ones. They are using newbie accounts as those are easily disposable and they have unlimited supply. Rinse and repeat. Gonna report all of their spam posts for now, and then I'll see what to do next, as sometimes they just give up when mods keep deleting their spam posts constantly. |
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Plagiarist are theif, they steal other people's work and take the credit. That's how I observe it.
That's unquestionable, and I think that we all agree on that, I reported my share of plagiarism cases as well. And as I said ignorance is not a valid excuse for breaking the rules. Not on this forum and not anywhere else. I just think that it wouldn't be a bad idea to add some warning as others suggested. Costs nothing, and it might help fight plagiarism that's a real issue here. |
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Perhaps a gentle reminder in a place nobody can avoid could go a long way … although probably still rendering mild results, but you can’t really beat about the bush with someone who does not take the explicit hints, such as is exemplified in the image below (see text in red):
I would definitely like to see something like that. It is not too intrusive, and I don't see any drawbacks to this. Doesn't even have to be shown for all ranks, but maybe restrict it for newbies/Jr Member. Those who reach latter ranks should already know what's wrong and what's not. And who knows, this little warning might even yield some results and reduce plagiarism. Perhaps a gentle reminder in a place nobody can avoid could go a long way … I doubt it would bring any of good benefits at all as they don't care actually. Plagiarist always thought they could get away from forum mods or they don't care. There are very few plagiarist who plagiarize without knowing how much stupid work it is. More or less plagiarism is known to everyone and they are well aware of plagiarism in other places too. It is true that majority of those that plagiarize are very well aware of the fact that they are breaking forum rules and know the consequences of such actions, especially those that use spinbots, or are paraphrasing texts as they are trying to avoid detection. As always, ignorance is not a valid excuse, but occasionally some legit member will appear that doesn't know what's the proper way to deal with external texts. As a matter of fact, I don't know any other forum with such strict rules regarding plagiarism ( and I am active on few of them for almost 20 years), but I understand why is that needed, as this forum offers a way to earn some decent money by simply posting and that's not usually the case on other forums. With that simple addition suggested by @DdmrDdmr (and others before him) we might save few of those that would be positive contribution to this forum in the future. I just don't understand why some users do plagiarism besides due to laziness of constructing their thought.
It is not that hard to construct a sentence, you can state your thought by using simple words that are easy to understand and cite sources properly. It's very simple, most of them simply want to appear smarter and more knowledgeable than they really are, hoping that way they get more merit and rank up faster. Add on that generally lower English level, and you get current situation. |
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I guess this should be enough evidence for ban. I see that he is even trying to get some merit from Ognasty for signing a message.
I hope you reported the user - I didn't since it's your findings... good job. Yeah I reported him to the mods immediately after I found the evidence, and tagged him just in case, until mods nuke him. Hopefully soon as it looks like a clean case. |
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Messages : This is PhilEilhart from bitcointalk.org and today is 2020.09.29
To confirm ''Hey Newbies! Can You Sign A Message?'' Thread
Address : bc1qrjvpjycukksvt7q82cd77zxza8dh4can2pdmlz
Signature : IDL/3X8FYdvS02L3lJ34jlul2Wf6A0WLBK5/v7UKmurJSivRRtTGWhcy8/q6oeMzLXId+3ZUuIy5sGeoHhdcPzw=
This user is trying to cheat his way through ranks by copying external texts and then using spinbot to avoid detection. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg55283479#msg55283479 |
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This user is almost certainly word-spinning but I can't quite pinpoint the source:
I think I found one source for one of his spinned posts. And yeah, his whole post history seems full of the similar stuff Bitcoin, like other cryptocurrencies, is still beneath improvement. Hence, something totally startling seem happen to it, which perpetually happens at the advancement organize not as it were with financial objects but too with test innovations.
https://archive.fo/1ErOS https://www.finextra.com/blogposting/17390/the-main-risks-of-investing-in-bitcoinAnother one. This time he didn't even bother much as text is almost the same. This might appear like nit-picking, but there are really classes you'll be able take in Las Vegas that give tips to slide instead of roll dice to force a certain result. This can be why casinos require that you just bounce the dice off the back bumper of a craps table.
This might seem like nit-picking, but there are actually classes you can take in Las Vegas that provide tips to slide rather than roll dice to force a certain outcome. This is why casinos require that you bounce the dice off the back bumper of a craps table. https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a22856/dice-mathematically-fair/
I guess this should be enough evidence for ban. I see that he is even trying to get some merit from Ognasty for signing a message. |
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Ma bez brige... Doći će Meriti. Pogledaj mene. Pišem gotovo isključivo u hrvatskoj sekciji, a nisam tako daleko od Hero Membera. Mislim da kod nas stvarno nije teško doći do Merita. Istina, malo je teže dobiti npr. 5 Merita za jedan post ali to je više zbog nestašice sMerita kod naših članova.
A može se rankat i kod nas, i ono što je dobro je da će skoro svaki dobar post dobiti bar merit-dva, ali ipak nismo samoodrživi kao neki ostali boardova tipa Njemački, Talijanski, Arapski, Ruski etc i dosta ovisimo o pisanju na Eng dijelu. Da nismo toliko aktivni i generalno dobri posteri, situacija bi bila dosta lošija. Baš neki dan gledam jedan thread gdje priča par membera koji su došli jako brzo do 1000 merita, negdje otprilike kao ja a neki čak i brže, i onda vidiš da su na domaćem boardu pokupili i do 80%, što je kod nas mission impossible u tom vremenskom roku (cca 10 mjeseci) pa makar bio i sam Satoshi Nakamoto. Čisto spominjem da se vidi razlika. Ali zato je tu @dkbit98 da promjeni to, kad dobije jedno 200 merita mjesečno pa eto i tebe do Legendary ranka u kratkom roku  |
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More spam threads/ accounts detected and tagged. One of the threads that are using this service is Primebit.com. They were warned about this by @Bitcoin_Arena but it looks like they don't care. That's a pretty shady behavior, coming from an exchange.
Just a word of advice @PrimeBitExchange, It isn't necessary using bump accounts to create fake buzz in your thread. It's shady practice and instead cause a negative impact on what you intend to do. Such practices is not acceptable in the community.
Proof of connection:  Accounts used: CucklerBret823, maraslibas, predbangtursa, MinhDuong355517, dilladegru, nelsonjohn2046, ecviefuca, kresesosal, zoilanikolaus, tonbichlien
ANN threads:PrimeBit.com - P2P Exchange Platform for P2P Currencies, up to 200x leverage[ANN] ZYX NETWORK - A GROUND-BREAKING POS-BASED PRODUCT FOR A WIDE AUDIENCE[ANN] [ICO] 🔥🔥🔥 Geco.one - Cryptocurrency PAMM Trading Platform🔥🔥🔥 [ANN] tap - Access to crypto trading and banking | Mastercard Approved🔥[ANN] MobiusCrypto- Redefining #DeFi[Ann] LifeRhythm Medical Services, LLC ⭐️ Programming the Future of Healthcare
Proof of connection:  Accounts used: masrasipa, failofule, AndrewGreen1, urloferda, nilycoti, daahicarmi, alegraces, pingtertergda, polar091, atrababul ANN threads:🔥🔥 EGGSBOOK TOKEN - A COMMON CRYPTO-CURRENCY FOR P.O.P. BASED GAME 🔥🔥[ANN] DSF - The SoFi Blockchain - Redefine Social Network with BlockchainFetch.ai and Bitfinex announce trading competition and catalyst sale[ANN] ZYX NETWORK - A GROUND-BREAKING POS-BASED PRODUCT FOR A WIDE AUDIENCE |
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I mean, if you did a few of these simple things and, in addition to reporting, report it, the moderator will not pass by (at least this is the case in the Russian section). But if you still don't see enough evidence, you can PM me or this thread, then I can dig deeper. From my experience, mods really need strong proof to delete topic, at least here in English part of the forum. Thing is, airdrop spam is usually easy as spot as posts are even more redundant than those made by bumping service, and usually there is some proof of posting incentive, whether through airdrop sites, or sometimes they advertise that in their telegram group, like in this example. In those cases, topics usually get deleted.
Two new threads added: PrimeBit.com - P2P Exchange Platform for P2P Currencies, up to 200x leverageExchange platform that hired bumping service few days ago. Accounts used are also active in several projects that are doing the same thing, among them is one obvious scam, ZYX. edit: Primebit was removed since they admitted and stopped with that activity. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg55299874#msg55299874🔥🔥 EGGSBOOK TOKEN - A COMMON CRYPTO-CURRENCY FOR P.O.P. BASED GAME 🔥🔥Another thread that hired bumpers recently. I've tagged OP of that tread previously for impersonating another bounty management service. All the other threads where accounts are active have been previously added to the list. |
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I know that the mods won't remove topics based on user requests, but they might remove one if there are enough bad reports made in the thread.
It would be great if mods start to do that, but when I see COINSBIT ANN thread, somehow I don't think that will happen. Coinsbit is proven scam, having Flags Type 1, Type 2 and Type 3 active, both you and @Jollygood (and a few others) were tagging their accounts. According to https://loyce.club/archive/topics/518/5185065.html more than 500 posts have been deleted from that thread (archive shows 3965 while there are 3411 at the moment). It's obvious to everyone what is going there and despite all that, thread is still there. I did the same in some threads, reporting hundreds of posts and getting them deletes, but nothing happened. True, I haven't tried this approach, trying to get them deleted as I though I don't have evidence strong enough to do that. At least not in most cases. @icopress I really hope that what you are trying to do works in the end and you get some of those threads deleted. If that happens, there are bunch of them that deserves the same. |
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Hey @Ratimov, I think this fits better in altcoin section since this scam was exposed by others, you are sharing the news.
Regarding the Hatch DAO, we gonna see more and more of those exit scams unfortunately in the coming months as DeFi ponzi balloon crumbles.
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In addition, I noticed that you are adding quite a few threads to the list, (no archives, and not flagging OP accounts to protect other users). In your opinion, can DT tag them, relying only on your word?
True, I do add a lot of them and despite that many go unnoticed as unfortunately this bumping scene is still alive and kicking, despite changes in bumping system. I do tag OP of those threads where I have more proof that it is a scam. Regarding archiving, if I ever have to provide an additional proof, I can use 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic). Also, you can always report a violation to the moderators. There are example's when moderators deleted threads even with 100,000 views. Below I gave an example of how such reports might look, (If you need help creating reports like this, let me know).Yes I now that mods can delete threads if there is a proof that OP is paying for comments, but afaik, you have to have really strong evidence for that to happen. I report those when I have proof, I usually make post about it in [CLUB] The SpamBusters! Busting rule-breakers constantly and then report to the mods. Regarding accounts that are used for shilling, as @nutildah pointed it out, I do tag them when there is a strong connection to scam promotion, like in this case I discovered today User NUMAS selling codes for "dirty" BTC with 50% discount. where I tagged all bumping accounts involved. I used to tag them more often (as did others I think) but since those "marketing agencies" as they like to call themselves have unlimited amount of newbie accounts, they simply ditch those and start using new ones. And we are talking about hundreds or maybe even thousands of accounts used. |
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I think this is a great experiment and wish you luck, but if you're using a VPN that tells the casino that you're in an unrestricted country, how are they supposed to know the truth? I'm not expert as far as VPNs go, but I suspect you won't have any trouble registering (or at least getting past the first click in the process) with any of these casinos.
He is using VPN to appear accessing gambling site from restricted countries. So, if he chooses US server and gambling sites is restricted to US users, he shouldn't be able to access that site if they are blocking properly. People are usually using VPN to avoid IP detection, so for example if they are from US, they will choose some other server to avoid the ban. "Fun" starts when you win a lot of money and then they ask for KYC, and on your ID it shows that you played from restricted country. Or they may let you play even tough they know that you are playing from restricted country, but won't mind you playing and loosing until you want to withdraw big winning. As others pointed out, fair thing would be to ask for KYC before even letting you deposit (if they plan to do that later) but we all know that won't happen. |
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if something seems far too good to be true then it more than likely is.
Yep, common sense. Unfortunately, common sense is not so common. Before stumbling upon your thread, i already posted in his scamthread warning others not to fall for his trap... But he used his shills to fill the complete first page before i discovered him, so his first page is still filled with newbie (shill) vouches.
Tagging seems like a sensible idear.
Yea, I just saw that you wrote warning message, hopefully no one will fall for this, but knowing how many newbies comes every day, I wouldn't be surprised if someone falls for this. Digging a bit more, and it seems like this wasn't his first attempt at this scheme. Last month he did the same thing, and after getting tagged by @malevolent two weeks ago, he probably made new account and continued with his business. I don't know if it's true or not, but someone accused him of scamming 0.3 BTC in the old thread. No wonder scammers don't give up easily and usually come back if schemes like this still work. Scam alert:
HE BLOCKED ME ON TELEGRAM.
My account was disabled after I sent 0.3 btc.
I wonder why mods allowed this up for long.
Adding Flag Type 1 against @NUMAS, please support https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2361 |
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So, while tracking shilling accounts activity, i stumbled upon this thread in Invites & Accounts section ✅【DOUBLE YOUR BITCOIN INSTANTLY】【CRYPTOCLEANER.CC INVITE CODES】✅🔥https://archive.fo/3n4ejUser NUMAS is selling codes for CryptoCleaner.cc that is allegedly selling bitcoin that was earned through shady activities like scamming and hacking, for a huge 50% discount. Just this discount seems way too good to be true, and it looks like just another scam, not much better than those BTC doublers. Flag Type 1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2361Additionally, as i mentioned at the beginning, he hired bumping service to shill his thread and fake interest, hoping that someone will fall for this. Accounts used are working or have been working on many other ANN threads, and some of them are tagged as scam.  Accounts used:gestdentniga https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1749356daytiamauplym https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1734290indaitincons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1749041Hoquochoai643 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2701226Sid5491 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2708799onusrepthank https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1747617grinfud https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2699339freedinunclas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1735716kaosabvaibi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1748940ANN threads:🔥✅【DOUBLE YOUR BITCOIN INSTANTLY】【CRYPTOCLEANER.CC INVITE CODES】✅🔥
Fetch.ai and Bitfinex announce trading competition and catalyst sale【ANN】JBOXCOIN - JBOX - Listed 2 Exchange and Airdrop is Live[ANN] [Mandi ] ✅✅ MnI is the Future Leader of Asset Tokenisation ✅✅[ANN] tap - Access to crypto trading and banking | Mastercard Approved[ANN] ZYX NETWORK - A GROUND-BREAKING POS-BASED PRODUCT FOR A WIDE AUDIENCE[PHR] PHORE BLOCKCHAIN - Private Decentralized Marketplace & Ecosystem. POS/MNAt least one more project listed here is scam, and that's ZYX Network, rebranded PZM Cash, known ponzi scheme that is going on for some time and that i tagged and flagged some time ago. |
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Jeste, iako sam nedavno postavio novi fake Uniswap airdrop, i dalje gledam ono što ljudi tamo objavljuju i koliko merita dobijaju. Mogu ti pokazati puno prijava bez ijednog merita a možeš i sam pogledati A moguce si u pravu, iskreno nisam previse pratio koliko ostali dobiju merita, znam samo da je kod mene oduvijek variralo. A kad mogu, znas da tebi posaljem . U zadnjih mjesec-dva se pojavilo jako puno scamova zbog ovog defi hajpa pa sam tako i ja prestao pratit svaku objavu koja se pojavi u tom dijelu.
To je jedino što ima smisla. Da je moja "natural" sekcija nešto drugo osim gamblinga i našeg lokalnog siguran sam da bi već bio legendary ali i ovako sam skupio solidno merita. To svakako, da bi odavno odradio Legendary kvotu merita da si bio aktivan negdje drugdje gdje ima vise merita, ali opet gledaj to sa druge strane: da si pisao negdje drugdje, vrlo lako moguce da ne bi upao u daleko najjacu kampanju na forumu, a upao si upravo zato jer pises o onome sta te bas zanima, i to se odmah vidi. Pitanje za vas statističare, jel ima negdje analiza ljudi koji su dobili najviše merita po sekcijama. Mene zanima baš za gambling da vidim di stojim.
Merit dashboard biljezi samo merite dobijene po boardovima, tako da ukljucuje sve child boardove, pa je jedino moguce vidjeti sveukupan rezultat za Marketplace, jer Gambling spada pod tu sekciju. Posto je to nedovoljno precizno s obzirom na tvoj upit, zatrazio sam pomoc. Srecom, @DdmrDdmr je uvijek spreman pomoci (thnx again for your help), pa mi je poslao listu samo za gambling dio, na kojoj ocekivano ti stojis jako dobro, taman upadas u top 10. Napravio sam jedan ss da se vidi top 20, a ispod slike je i link sa punom listom.  A evo i linka sa svim imenima ( u tab 2 je lista svih merit transakcija na gambling boardu) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jTgm1iuz5T_7Rgv3oqdTL6FQN8Lhg4F69MOV6DTosro/edit?usp=sharingedit: Osim Trofe, koji je elita i u samom vrhu, ovako stoje nasi ostali aktivni memberi. Isprike ako sam nekoga zaboravio 56. cryptofrka 70 78. marlboroza 55 128 big_daddy 32 153. examplens 28 259. Rikafip 15 290. Pmalek 14 383. -CryptoViking- 10 501. btcltcdigger 7 640. Daniel91 5 879. FatFork 3 965. CasperBGD 2 |
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