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It's great.

Can we adjust the trust system that if VOD is ignored by say, 50 people? he loses his trust position?

Is there a way to actually use the forums to have his status removed?

That sounds really wrong if you ask me. It shows disrespect towards Quickseller and his opinion. I wouldn't remove my rating if someone said something like that to me.

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From who? I'm sure BadBear will remove it once your current escrows cease and you don't start a new service. Maybe Quickseller will remove or neutralise his over time.

I think the bolded part is what's causing the issue.  Didn't BadBear remove the negative under the promise you would do no escrow service at all?

hello.. pls update me on the list im wearing the sig again thanks!

Lo hanno scritto sul sito un paio di ore fa... sottolineando che sarà totalmente coperto.
Almeno ci tengono informati su ciò che avviene 


Tutto può essere... sarebbe curioso analizzare i dati delle vendite allo scoperto su kraken preattacco...

Mistakes can cost people a lot of money here and people are right to question your ability as an escrow. It's easy to say in retrospect that you would've paid but your previous comments make me not so certain. 0.8 isn't much and it's possible you would have just paid it to save your rep but what if a signature campaign or an ipo goes bad next time where there's a lot more money at stake?

I dont think feedback either way is necessary. We would have had to have seen his actions if the account was not recovered, and the loan was not paid. I was an escrow agent for a long while and luckily never had an issue, but if the escrow agent messes up, and something goes wrong, it is on them. If the account had not been recovered, and the loan not paid, redsn0w would have had to repay the loan. Thats why escrow agents charge fees and ask for tips, its to cover their liability. Since that is not the case, theres no reason to leave feedback either way. It would be positive feedback if he paid the loan as per his escrow agent obligation if the lendee ran off and the account was no longer secure, it could be neutral now I suppose if you wish, and it would be negative if redsn0w had not paid the loan if the account was lost and the lendee ran off.

Honestly, probably the most valuable information that could have come out of this, is to see how redsn0w handled something going wrong. Not really a big deal as far as how it turned out.

How I see it all feedback in the trust system is at the discretion of the person leaving it. For example if you wouldnt trust someone with your btc after a situation has unfolded then you're entitled to leave that as a form of feedback. Preferably the situation is an interaction with you but it can be an interaction that is not made directly with you. Although now that neutral feedback has been brought in it may be a good idea to consider it more.

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If it's justifiable and there is genuine concern, but if it isn't the feedback will very likely get brought up here and the reasoning questioned much like this thread now. If people abuse the feedback system over personal issues it usually comes back to bite them.

It's not obvious and it's still a concern that you are still considering the escrow once this all blows over. Just because you won't do accounts anymore isn't the problem. What happens if you screw up on something else and make an even costlier mistake? The issue here was your error not that accounts are insecure (they're pretty secure once handled right).

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Yes I believe my feedback is right. You have asked me many times, and I was threatened with negative feedback to remove it. Trust me if there was a doubt that it was right I would have removed it a long time ago and admitted my mistake.

My trust rating for you is not going to stop anyone from trading with you. At the very most it would cause someone to want to use escrow while trading with you, however even the most reputable people are willing to accept escrow

edit: I personally think the people who have left neutral feedback is incorrect

The trust system is not moderated. You are allowed to leave negative trust feedback for any reason (or no reason). If you look at my untrusted feedback, you will notice that I have been trolled for various reasons via my feedback. If you leave someone negative feedback for the sole reason that you do not trust them then others will likely not trust your feedback reports.

EDIT: to clarify my previous statement regarding not trusting you: this is not the main reason why I left my feedback, it does play a minor role but the overriding factor is how you handled the escrow transaction and your initial reaction when it was uncertain that you would be able to recover the account.

You are going to pay from your own money if they don't give you enough? I would think it would be more wise to warn them that you might not have enough money to cover all the payments and how much you have. I somewhat think that statement was made because you thought that is what I wanted to hear

~ @Quickseller , Can I ask you here in public one thing ?

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I said may start in the future and you're still currently offering services regardless. Do you plan to keep doing so after the terms expire of these current jobs or are you planning to restart your service in the future because this is the concern?

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You have funds for two different escrow projects in a single address? Are both parties you are holding money for aware of this? Are the participants in your signature campaign aware of this? If there are no funds in the escrow address to cover signature payments (the only money left is for the FINDCoin project) then participants would keep their signature up under the impression you have enough money to pay when you really do not

I'm sorry I don't provide anymore my escrow service here in the forum.

It does seem like a conflict of interest if he's your friend and it's arguable as to whether redsnow is deserved of this trust but he did do something wrong regardless and I think he lucked out greatly on the situation. I think it was only a matter of time before something like this happened and could've been much worse and we never got to find out what red ultimately would have done had the account been lost. Redsnow stated a couple of times that he he himself didn't know what he would do if BadBear hadn't've of stepped in and couldn't answer whether he would've paid back the money which is a bit disturbing since he is meant to be guaranteeing it. That being said, he did close his escrow of his own accord which showed maturity but it also seems that he may start his escrow again at some point in the future which may not be a good idea for reasons already stated and in that case the feedback may be a good warning for people to use caution. The trust currently doesn't leave him marked as untrustworthy either but an orange warning which may by apt for the reason just stated.

He is still holding funds for a signature campaign , just paid out to participants today and there is no mention of him returning funds to the owner of the site nor that he is going to resign. Per the OP of the campaign he is holding funds in 1GkgLFg9YVyvLzKbsipzJJjy5r33mpv4ki and per the blockchain there is ~.46 BTC in the address.

I removed my negative because redsn0w said he would no longer act as escrow, so I didn't see it as necessary. I have seen reports/posts that this is not the case, but haven't had time to look into it.

Yes, please continue doing this campaign.

Have you fixed your issues?

You are allowed to act as escrow and have other commitments outside of the forum. Your presence was not the issue, the issue was that you were not there to promise that you would make good on the situation.

Since I am being extorted by michaeladair to remove my negative trust, or to change it to neutral, I will post here about my trust rating that I gave him. I am not 100% sure what his connection is to Redsn0w, however his profile says he is 18 years old and you have a low maturity level so maybe you know each other from high school or something. You both appear to support coinichiwa and I was informed that you both are active in the NXT forums.

For the record he did give me negative trust, however he since removed it when I informed him that what he is/was doing is extortion.

I have really never trusted Redsn0w, as he seems to be too eager to be holding other's money for them. I have seen many signature campaigns pop up where he immediately would offer his services via PM (I know he offered it because you make a post saying that he sent a PM - which is unnecessary BTW, especially when you are wearing a paid signature). He also appear to be building up trust as I have seen you trade with others on default trust list (and have few trades - with the exception of your escrow services - with people who are not on default trust list) this makes me believe the only reason for the trade was for the trust rating. I do not see any received feedback from anyone that was not either using him as escrow or is on default trust list. It appears that he was always the one risking getting scammed when dealing with users on default trust list.

Even though he argues that everything turned out okay (and went smoothly), in the end it did not. He gave both lihuajkl and Moreia a false sense of security when providing his services. My interpretation of how moreia's account was hacked was that it was not sophisticated. The theory seems to be that the email address was public when he took control of the account and did not change it to private (nor did he change the actual email address) - these are what is claimed. It has been said that only one account has ever been hacked because of weak forum security, so I would doubt it was the forum's fault it got hacked. 

Once the account was out of his control, redsn0w appeared to be primarily concerned about his reputation (by saying things like I think someone is trying to ruin my reputation) and wanted to know who was behind the hack. He was not quick to accept responsibility, he repeatedly said that the mistake was unintentional when asked if he will cover the lender's losses. The only acceptable response to that question would be some variation of "yes". It was only when BadBear gave Redsn0w negative trust (that he later removed) that Redsn0w "closed" his escrow service (although it does not appear to be closed). He is still operating as escrow for ActionCrypto.com signature campaign and recently gave Dogedigital positive trust because he escrowed a transaction with today's time stamp (although he could have previously acted as escrow and just added it now).



Additionally even though Redsn0w has several neutral trust ratings warning people not to use him as escrow he still received at least one escrow referral as recently as two days ago.

You are allowed to act as escrow and have other commitments outside of the forum. Your presence was not the issue, the issue was that you were not there to promise that you would make good on the situation.

Additionally, unrelated to the escrow transaction at issue, he did on at least one occasion did something that a much older, very trusted escrow provider thought was an attempt to steal his PGP private key as evidenced in the below post found on his escrow thread.

It's not what happens to you that matters, it's how you react to it.

You can get a good example of how NOT to react by looking at the recent issue with takagari.  He made it so much worse for himself.

Give it some time, and contact quickseller in the future.  Let all parties cool down.  Don't keep harassing him if he is not budging.