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5721  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Voting For Domain Generation. on: December 07, 2010, 04:12:45 AM
Whats the general plan here? No reduction in names/block I assume? Won't this make the first blocks incredible valuable and later blocks less valuable as the goodness of remaining names declines? Maybe it should start really low (1?) and move up gradually to a stable amount (100?)?

That's interesting. I guess we adopt that.

Yikes. That's just what rolled off my fingers in a second, there may be a much more clever way.

Maybe even link it to the log of difficulty or something. That way if it becomes a huge global thing there can be lots of addresses quickly, but if it stays small creating addys will still require a contribution to securing the network.

The blocks/hour is free to be changed too, don't forget.
5722  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Voting For Domain Generation. on: December 07, 2010, 04:09:39 AM
Trying to create a futures contract for a currency that doesn't even exist yet?  That sounds very interesting in and of itself.

BTW, I like it!

I don't think so. I think he means it as a fundraiser. Like which color should the tablecloths be at the party? Each vote costs a beer or something.

We need to figure out what will work by discussing. Donations are already coming in separately just fine.
5723  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Voting For Domain Generation. on: December 07, 2010, 04:06:59 AM
Whats the general plan here? No reduction in names/block I assume? Won't this make the first blocks incredible valuable and later blocks less valuable as the goodness of remaining names declines? Maybe it should start really low (1?) and move up gradually to a stable amount (100?)?
5724  Other / Off-topic / Re: Am I a hypocrite for taking unemployment benefits? on: December 07, 2010, 03:14:12 AM
Whenever a man accepts the carrots, he sets himself up for the stick.

If you were truly dedicated to being free you would not be seeking "employment" but you would be making your living without tax and social contracts with the sate.

It's not easy to get free and stay free. Take heart that you are young and already understanding this when so many men never figure it out in their whole lifetime.

So don't take it because you might get hit? What if you've already been hit?

You don't take take a tiny bite? Would you take the whole thing and let it burn without funds?

There is no way this thing is going down all at once. Kill it with millions of small cuts, take from it when you can and resist when you can.
5725  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: continuous function for generation ? on: December 07, 2010, 12:52:49 AM
The jump will be big early on. But after a while, those small jumps will be non-noticeable.

50->25 is a lot bigger impact than 1.5->0.8

don't worry about it.

What is important is the % drop in average total reward for a block. As fees become a bigger part the % drop will decrease. I think only the first two drops will be big close to 50%.
5726  Other / Off-topic / Re: Am I a hypocrite for taking unemployment benefits? on: December 06, 2010, 06:34:33 PM
Depending on it is a really bad position to be in for a variety of reasons. But if you are literally starving or something I'm not saying you should turn it down to avoid being dependent.

Well if someone has really no choice, it's ok I guess.   But as far as I'm concerned, I won't claim anything until I am really really broke, starving and with no roof upon my head.


I won't either. But I think anyone who takes money from the state, through non payment of taxes or through redistribution programs is helping to defeat the state. If someone starts apologetics for the state after taking the money or claiming that they deserve it or some crap then all benefit is undone.

While it's still here, bleed it out. Never advocate for it.
5727  Other / Off-topic / Re: Am I a hypocrite for taking unemployment benefits? on: December 06, 2010, 06:12:03 PM
FreeMoney was very careful to say that if you take the money, you mustn't depend on it (i.e. need it to live on). I took a job throughout my university education, so I was always financially independent. I should have taken the money and donated it to a voluntarist cause.
But it already is your money with which to do what you want. The government took it from you. Now that you have it back, how can anyone blame you for spending it as you would have had the government not taken it?

Depending on it is a really bad position to be in for a variety of reasons. But if you are literally starving or something I'm not saying you should turn it down to avoid being dependent.

Back to the cellar, when he tosses the bread down the stairs don't eat it contentedly and go back to sleep. You need to find a way out of the damn cellar. It's not where you want to be and it isn't even as safe as you think. He could forget about you or die himself.
5728  Other / Off-topic / Re: Am I a hypocrite for taking unemployment benefits? on: December 06, 2010, 06:05:54 PM
Very insightful. I went to University in the late 70s when very generous government grants were available, and I chose not to take them, on principle. But I think I should have done so, for the reasons you explained.

The problem with that is you won't be able to defend your liberal ideas.  People will, with good reasons, claim that you oppose the very thing you live on.

If you want to stand as an example, you can't accept any money from government.


I strongly disagree.

If our master locks us in the cellar I am going to punch you out if you rag on me for eating the slop he throws us. It would be a total lie to say I was pro slavery because I got my food from the slave master.

If you want to insist that you can't use the money because it was stolen then you need to take it and return it. The fact that this is hard to do in no way implies that the masters should keep it.

Even if you have somehow avoided all taxation for your entire life there will never be an amount offered to you that compensates for your lack of freedom.
5729  Other / Off-topic / Re: Am I a hypocrite for taking unemployment benefits? on: December 06, 2010, 04:54:55 PM
If you advocate for the dissolution of the state then you are absolutely not a hypocrite. Taking money from them makes them weaker. Usually the state gets a more loyal advocate out of it and that's their profit. Don'y advocate for them to have one tiny bit of power. And don't depend on the money, but by all means take it.

I don't do it because it isn't worth giving them info and doing paperwork to me, but in a pinch I'd be all over that.
5730  Economy / Economics / Re: wolfram alpha on: December 06, 2010, 04:29:28 PM
lol, 2bits = a quarter, 1bit = 12.5 cents

nothing to do with bitcoin.
5731  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Pooled/Remote Mining on: December 06, 2010, 06:23:37 AM
I added a call to SetLastVerifiedMetaHash but that didn't fix the issue for the contributed distributed type. So I've switched back to 'connected' and this displays the address as being in the pool.

I'll switch back to 'contributed' if the issue is resolved.

Imagine there were multiple servers running the contributed method. Wouldn't the optimal thing for a miner to do to be to continually jump to the server that had most recently generated since the same power will be worth more there since you are sharing with fewer previous work units?
5732  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Join a pooled bitcoin mining effort on: December 06, 2010, 06:13:53 AM
Works now.
5733  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Join a pooled bitcoin mining effort on: December 06, 2010, 05:02:47 AM
The previous client reported within the first few messages how much BTC your address would get based on the khash it was contributing, and it reported it fairly quickly. Does it take longer before it calculates and adds you to the list of addresses receiving BTC if a block is won?

After a few hours mine is still not in. I think it is broken.
5734  Other / Off-topic / Re: Iran and ‘radical’ Islam on: December 06, 2010, 05:01:44 AM
When something becomes governance it should be ended. Start close by where maybe you can do something.
5735  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: US Cell Phones for Bitcoin on: December 06, 2010, 04:52:47 AM
>ClearSignalWireless@msn.com

Why do they have a @msn.com email? And where is the link for their website?

Surely it isn't PCS directly accepting bitcoin. I think these phone companies have affiliate stores in addition to their own. Maybe an affiliate is willing to accept bitcoin and pay $ to PCS.
5736  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Join a pooled bitcoin mining effort on: December 06, 2010, 03:29:52 AM
I updated the server on 173.255.205.10 early since there were only 4 clients connected. Instructions updated here:

http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/bitcoin-pool/

Basically you need the new client binary. The windows version is now called remoteminer-cpu.exe and the arguments to it require '=' instead of a space between the '-address' and its value (and '-server' and its value).

There's also a remoteminer-cuda.exe for those with a cuda compatible GPU.

Let see how well this handles load. If it's fine I'll take down the other server.

Me too, not found. Did you switch to contributed and rounding is causing this?

Contributed method is bad imo.
5737  Other / Off-topic / Re: Libertarians/Anarchists Answer Me This on: December 06, 2010, 03:12:48 AM
Whooping cough (pertussis) is a good recent example: http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-05-26-whooping-cough_N.htm

Are you telling me you think that all of epidemiology is bullshit? Are you familiar with predator-prey systems and the like?

Oh, no. Only that the onus is on the person who thinks it's a good idea to convince people using words, not guns. 

The fact that rate of contracting whooping cough is 23x higher is a huge incentive, I'm not sure why you think people who turn that down are going to care if you threaten them. Plus it's common sense to a lot of people that you don't force someone to do things that are good for them, so you probably lower immunization compared to a non-force method, like good education.

5738  Other / Off-topic / Re: Libertarians/Anarchists Answer Me This on: December 05, 2010, 11:19:39 PM
No, it is not a case of cheaper total cost for insurance companies. There are good math and epidemiology behind the drive to immunize everyone. Start by looking up herd immunity. Consider that for an epidemic to occur a certain critical number of susceptible people must exist within a certain area. Vaccines change those numbers such that it is much harder for an epidemic to occur. People are getting complacent because we have good vaccine coverage now and thinking that they can safely go without. As a result we are seeing outbreaks of terrible and dangerous diseases that have long been thought gone by the general public.

There is no good math behind immunizing everyone. A vast majority will do it willingly or even pay, they you have to turn up the pressure more and more to get the remnant. There will be a group who will resist you violently for sure. On top of this the marginal benefit is going down as nearly everyone is already protected. Imagine the very last person who isn't immunized, how much risk is he to the heard? And he'd rather die than have you stick a needle in him.

In a free world a balance will emerge. People don't want to get sick and plenty of people get a good feeling from helping others, even strangers.   Forcing people is bad and leads to bad results.

I'm curious as to which were gone and are back. I just watched the House where they thought Small Pox was back.
5739  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Wikileaks contact info? on: December 05, 2010, 10:11:24 PM
Also, while bitcoin is in its infancy, we (bitcoiners) should avoid engaging in drugs, prostitution, weapon selling & other semi-legal activities.

If bitcoin will lift off using money from fraudesters & gangsters, how in world will we ever manage to promote it to be a serious currency ?

Dollar is debased, bitcoin is not. Bitcoin is private online, dollar is not. If someone needs a currency that isn't used by gangsters then they can stick to the dollar. Oh...
5740  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is the PayPal Replacement on: December 05, 2010, 09:33:50 PM
Calling it a PP replacement makes it sound pretty narrow. It's a dollar and really all fiat replacement.

You can probably find people who hate PP so much that they'll leave the dollar too though. But you should make it clear that bitcoins aren't dollars like PP is dollars. Or else Jenny is going to send 40BTC for grandma to buy catfood with and it's going to be 18 cents short because of a tiny market move.
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