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5741  Economy / Services / Re: ❃❃ ▶▷ BETCOIN.ag ◁◀ ❃❃#Signature Campaign-High Pay, Monthly Bonus, Special Award on: July 04, 2016, 03:31:43 AM
Hello everyone,

Statistics from the Stage 8 are done and ready, but I won't share them to the public - if you want to get a link send me PM (restricted only to our Participants) and I will send you back the link.

Betcoin is obviously not making their stats public because they want me to have as little information as possible to use against them.


.01 BTC to whoever sends me this link first.

  • Send it from alt account if you want to protect your identity
  • First send me pm and say you want to send the link, if I haven't received it yet, I'll let you know and you can send link and address to be paid.



5742  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: July 04, 2016, 02:04:40 AM
Anytime someone uses the "All the other sites are worse" argument To defend a site is a very bad sign imp

The current state of Bitcoin poker is sad right now, so am I.
5743  Economy / Gambling / Re: BetCoin.TM Bitcoin Casino | Poker | Slots | Sports | Live Dealers | And More! on: July 03, 2016, 09:17:21 PM
I like the site and the low min. bet, but the delays for withdrawing are definitively not good.

It's also definitely not good that they have unresolved scam accusations for over BTC19 for months now and have vanished from the forum (other than to make the $5 giveaway thread) when it became obvious the withdraws should be paid.

Hopefully players will read their trust feedback and realize any deposit on a site that behaves this way hurts all honest players and sites in the big picture.
5744  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTSBET.IO - Win a share of 3000 mBTC every day during EURO 2016! on: July 03, 2016, 09:08:35 PM
Can you tell me where my post that accused ? or you can not tell which questions and where allegations
before I saw someone make a post about the username Mar *** after checking it turns right this user won nearly every day
so there are only two possibilities :
1. more than one user using the username Mar***
2. the most fortunate people

So what  wrong?
3. employee - fake account

There are clearly two seperate users (at least), Mar****** and mar******

Instead of everyone interperting what Google+ means by "after checking this user won nearly every day"

Code:
Name        # of Wins  Total Won
Mar******* 5 1300
mar******* 5 500
5745  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Now Accepting Ether ! on: July 03, 2016, 06:13:58 PM
Directbet, I am going to assume you are scamming the shit out of me if you dont send my btc back. 3 + days is more than enough time to send my coin back. It confirmed days ago and your ignoring my email and PMs

Working with BTC should be within hours not multiple days.

Did you email them back yet?

Hi rangernation,

Please contact support@directbet.eu in regards to your bet. Thank you.

why would I email you, an anonymous bitcoin book,  when I just messaged you here.....and you responded lol

If you haven't I think you should.

Some reasons why you should email them:
  • They asked you to email them
  • They have your bitcoin
  • You want it back
5746  Economy / Gambling / Re: #1 RATINGS of SPORTSBOOKS. Please post any payout delays. Input wanted from all. on: July 03, 2016, 06:07:27 PM
I know I said I wouldn't post in this thread anymore but I want to clarify the hungarstyles situation.


After requiring hungerstyle to present KYC information, DirectBet paid hungerstyle his deposit plus winnings.
Directbet refunded the wager but did not payout the winnings from the BTC36 bet.  There was a smaller BTC2 wager that was paid, I'm not aware of the exact details behind that one though.

DirectBet requested KYC information, but I think it's fair to assume they ultimately paid Hungarstyle out of respect for the publics opinion without receiving any valid information.  ( DirectBet claimed the documents submitted were altered.  Also, I think it's safe to assume many users, including myself, would submit fraudulent personal information if they were in hungarstyles situation )

While many details of the situation make DirectBet worthy of serious criticism, they should be praised for ultimately conceding to the overall view of the general public encouraging other sites to do the same in the future.

I think ultimately the best way to avoid these situations in the future is to convince players and sites to come up with a dispute resolution policy that involves a unbiased third party.
5747  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin Poker Information and Discussion [Shill Free Zone] on: July 03, 2016, 02:47:27 AM
anyone here tried to play in Bovada or Bodog from a restricted country ?? if yes please tell me how
I'm really disappointed , I have always wanted to play there and was so glad when they started accepting bitcoins but it showed that they don't accept people from my country ( same with Bodog and the asian version )
I thought that the unregulated sites that accept US players do accept players from all countries  Sad

I don't know this as fact, but i think if you can show a bill or something to show your residence is somewhere they accept players they will approve account and then if you travel somewhere else and play you won't have problems. just avoid sharing ip or computer with any other Bodog acct.

5748  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcoin Poker Information and Discussion [Shill Free Zone] on: July 03, 2016, 02:29:29 AM


All my deposits to Bodog have been relatively quick.  If I recall, it only took a few minutes each time.

Never mind.  Scratch this lol.

Just deposited, had 3 confirmations within their 15 minute window and had to phone in and even though I had Bodog support confirm that they see funds in the deposit address, I have to wait up to 6 hours, and am instructed to e-mail them screenshots only AFTER that 6 hours. 

Really has changed my view on Bodog services.

its been 2 weeks since, but my last two deposits, each for $1k usd were available in account within 20 seconds (0 confirms)

they prob got raped by doublespend chip dumps and now are over compensating.

could easily take a site that size a year or more before they figure out reliable way to protect them self and still be efficient  plus train staff. 



5749  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: July 02, 2016, 06:45:37 PM
A lot of players have been complaining that in the tweet where SWC stated that the rake had been lowered, they neglected to mention that they actually increased the rake on tournaments. Has anyone heard anything about tournament rake increases or by how much it's been increased?

it looks like it was increased by less than 2%. I don't like how they went about it and they should have made an announcement about it for sure.
it's still lower than any other site tho.



I think it's a little more than 2%...5 chip tourneys went from 4.90 + 0.10 chips to 4.70 + 0.30 chips = 200% increase.

I can't remember the last time I played tourney on SWC tbh. Sites only good for cash games i mean why play small sngs when you can play overlays and big tourneys on betcoin/wpn.

excellent point, not shilly at all

5750  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Betcoin.ag Non-Payment of Jackpot on: July 02, 2016, 03:04:18 PM
Jason ain't responding again. He might have been bribed with say 50k $

And probably forced to sign an NDA. Either with Betsoft, Betcoin or both.

That NDA would be pretty useless since they would have to consent to whatever jurisdiction Jason lives in to enforce it.
(it could only be enforced by a court in his country)


5751  Economy / Gambling / Re: I'm 90 percent sure primedice is faking stats on: July 02, 2016, 02:56:09 PM
This thread has that magical quality that attracts signature sluts like a magnet. 

I predict over 200 posts by July 18th of 2-3 sentence vague "its not rigged" "it might be rigged" nonsense posts mostly by users being paid by a gambling site.  Advanced versions of the yobit guys.

Example:

If you have experienced long loosing streak it doesn't mean Primedice is rigged or is not fair.There is well known industry recognized provably fair system on what I do trust to make any site fair.Primedice is one of the top class dice site working and being live for long time.It all depends on your luck in gambling keep in mind of loosing at first then it will not hurt much.

We know how easy can someone make this pictures, primedice is here for a long time, why would they do something like that? Now when they have so many giveaways, here and on Facebook, and some signature campaign.
I don't believe in this faking stats, this is just one more newbie with first thread about son scam. I need much more evidence's to be convinced in something like this.
5752  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTSBET.IO - Win a share of 3000 mBTC every day during EURO 2016! on: July 02, 2016, 02:37:05 PM
And I want to debunk another very interesting comment of panjul07.  Do you think I would ask anyone here about the promo rules if I wanted to abuse this promo?
Or do you think creation alt accounts on SportsBet with the same exact names I always use (and it is not a secret at all) is logical if want to cheat?

I know you asked panjul, but I'll answer anyway. 

Yes, I think you might ask about the rules if you wanted to abuse the promo.  The question you asked here from your alt made it seem very likely you intended to abuse the promotion actually.

Did you think by asking, people would think

"oh that's Slark, an alt of maku.  Well he's asking about the rules here so obviously he must not intend to abuse this promotion!"

First of all, thanks for great refund promo Sportsbet.io - I shared news about this promo with friends.  
And as they are not regulars of bitcointalk I expect they might create new forum's account just to participate in this promo.
So my question is: is this perfectly fine to do so?

5753  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTSBET.IO - Win a share of 3000 mBTC every day during EURO 2016! on: July 02, 2016, 12:57:53 PM
I placed my single bet on Belgium v Wales yesterday and it was confirmed like 12 hours after the match was over.
Bets are not confirmed automatically, right after the game is over?

Also after 5 tries I never win anything in the promo raffle, maybe tomorrow will be my lucky day...



really, I thought thsee were you and your alt Hazir
Haz*******   1   50
mak*******   1   50
5754  Economy / Services / Re: ❃❃ ▶▷ BETCOIN.ag ◁◀ ❃❃#Signature Campaign-High Pay, Monthly Bonus, Special Award on: July 02, 2016, 12:40:48 PM
Hello,

Thank you for all of the messages, I reviewed all of the accounts and sent a PM to each of you.


@Spammers - please find suitable thread for your posts, this is our campaign thread and it's not mentioned for any other topics than our signature campaign, thanks! Smiley



Best regards.


Dont know where u pm me???...dont see anything in email, bitcointalk-account or betcoin...so again where do u pm me?Huh

Send u again a mail on support mail at betcoin...

Why should I PM you ? I'm a campaign manager not a psychiatrist. Sorry.

I PMed people who posted their will to join us. Not trolls.

@TwitchyScamSpammerSeal please don't teach me what I should and should not to post.
And again please post your bullshit somewhere else. We don't care about your opinion. I just added you to my ignore list - and I suggest to others do the same thing.

Thank you.


Funny, so i open a ticket yesterday, no answer till now, i send email on support email-adress, no answer till now. Where else should i send my request when i never receive any mail???

I guess you should wait for an answer or use the Live Support. This is a signature campaign thread.

Best regards.
Betcoin is using BitcoinTalk to promote their business while choosing to ignore multiple scam accusation threads over the past several months.  

The most recent issue involves a player not being paid over 500BTC and betcoin changing their terms and making it seem like they didn't after the fact.

Are you really going to keep asking me to leave this thread so you can continue working to promote this site without being bothered?

Get real.



Didn't you say in another thread that it was Betsoft who did not pay?

Hmm, you could go check the other thread to see exactly what I said huh?

But hey, I'll be nice and explain it for you here in case you don't know how to find your way back to my comment.

Betsoft is the software provider who ultimately owes the 500+ BTC bitcoin jackpot.

Betcoin is the casino that has chosen to side with Betsoft rather than the player.  (Bitcasino.io, Vegascasino.io and Sportsbet.io have already removed all Betsoft Jackpot slots, I expect others to follow)

After the player hit ths jackpot, both Betcoin and Betsoft changed their terms without notice to make it seem as if the player had never qualified to begin with.









Betcoins Terms as of 13 Apr 2016 08:10:37 UTC: https://archive.is/GntG5

The Same Terms as of today, 30 Jun 2016 18:17:27 UTC: https://archive.is/W0wVZ

Betcoin.ag did Betsoft changed your terms and conditions and how did you forgot to change date of T&C update.
Post publicly what u did to sole jasonort's issue.

How you can call Twichy spammer when he is doing more than you to protect your players.

I think betcoins definition of spam is anything they don't want to see and especially don't want anyone else to see.

so yeah, that would make me the biggest spammer of all time in their eyes. 
5755  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Betcoin.ag Non-Payment of Jackpot on: July 02, 2016, 08:57:56 AM
If you wanna know the truth why you haven't heard from Jason, its because he was probably "paid off" by Betcoin to simply shut up about it. This topic has drastically killed their marketing and player base. I'm sure that Jason and Betcoin talked it out, and decided on a number (much smaller than the jackpot) for him to just stop talking.

Hopefully they are trying to find 500+ bitcoin to pay Jason.  

The fact that Jason has gone quiet probably means communication has been made, just not a resolution.

Betcoin has completely changed their tune from: (I'm paraphrasing here)

"Of course Jason didn't win. Any casino would agree with us, it's not our fault, we're just following the rules (that don't exist) usually players understand this, we wonder why Jason doesn't?"

To:

Don't worry about the spammers guys.  They also help drive traffic to Betcoin.ag and keep our thread at the top.  

As the forum rep, all we can say right now is that jasonort has continued to play at Betcoin everyday since his Betsoft issue and we have worked very hard for him on this.  We will always do what is right for our players and there will be more information to follow.  We have not talked publicly about the matter because it just leads to speculation and trolling which is not productive or conducive to progress.  This happened to jasonort and he still plays with us almost everyday.  We would have done the same for all of our great players.  

On another note, our traffic and play has been very solid in all aspects and we want to thank all of your for your support and involvement in our program.  Another stage coming soon!
(I'm the spammer they are referring to by the way)

Thats right, they have claimed "We have not talked publicly about the matter"

Despite over a week ago sig campaign thread:

Most of the top casinos feature Betsoft games and you play directly on the casinos servers under their rules and we pay out based on this and are credited on a big win such as this would have been.  It would have been awesome for us from a marketing perspective to announce this win, but it is not a jackpot win within Betsoft's rules as it is a free spin and not a max bet paid round according to Betsoft.  The result would have been the same on any other website.  

Or 3 days after Jason hit the jackpot:






More recently in their chat room:



5756  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTSBET.IO - Win a share of 3000 mBTC every day during EURO 2016! on: July 02, 2016, 08:42:32 AM
Whoa! That's lot of work man.Thanks for doing that.I should be checking the data myself laters.What I would like to like to know from the collected results,how many users that we know have won the mega 1BTC prize,because most of the known genuine winners are usually the one's with 0.05BTC or 0.10BTC.The players winning higher amounts are not known of,there is a possibility sportsbet.io is giving those mega prizes to their shill accounts.When questioned before,this is what sportsbets.io replied.Definitely they've got their stats all wrong.

I just checked the most lucky winner of all raffles: player with nickname "and*******". He won in 5 raffles from 10, and he is the only one who won so many times (next player won 3 times from 10).  

I'm guessing sportsbet.io was reffering to the stats after only 10 drawings.  Mine are from 16.  Still, and****** has 5 wins, so I guess all from first 10 raffles?

I cross refrenced the players from the list who made a bet for the recent promo found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458173.msg15437781#msg15437781
With the 16 winners of 1000 mbtc or more.  4 matches.  Doesn't actually prove anything, but imo if god came down and was about to tell us the truth,  I think sportsbet.io drawings NOT being fraudulent would be a favorite.

har*******   3   1100/ - harvagas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669334 (although he claims in a post his username is macjavares... hmmm)  
bri*******   2   1050 - brianlee001 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=61807
Ale*******   1   1000 - Aleppo, srgkrgkj said this was his username https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458173.msg15414160#msg15414160
rio*******   1   1000 - rio333 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=531392

The players that haven't won anything are more likely to make more posts about not winning than the players that have.  Then when they don't when a few more in a row, they think it should prove something.  (it doesn't)  
For example, there's around a 90% chance this person will have a streak of 10 losses in a row then post about it.  Same chance as anyone to lose one drawing.  
Wow you guys have won multiple times. I haven't won a single time in like 5-6 raffles.
I wonder when I will get atleast 1 prize. Been in like 6 raffles till now.
Well I also have been in like 7 raffles and never won anything so don't really know how that works lol.
Easier for you to say. You won 2 times. I have been in like 8-9 raffles and yet to win. Thats why.
5757  Economy / Gambling / Re: I'm 90 percent sure primedice is faking stats on: July 02, 2016, 07:12:27 AM
Maybe op should lock stupid thread.
5758  Economy / Gambling / Re: SwCpoker.eu | No Banking, Only Bitcoin | Bitcoin Poker 2.0 LIVE NOW! on: July 02, 2016, 07:08:37 AM
Is glitch still around? What are his thoughts on current situation if so?
5759  Economy / Gambling / Re: BTC Casino | News | Special Offers for bitcointalk.org Users on: July 02, 2016, 05:08:12 AM
To make this situation clear, in our casino, we have slots produced by different software manufacturers, so that`s much easier for us to rent all these games from 1 supplier than to make integrations with 4-5 companies individually. 

Ahh, so the reason you offer pirated software instead of legitimate licensed version is because it's "much easier"to work with someone that hook you up with pirated games from 4-5 software provider.

Thanks for the explanation, idiot.
5760  Economy / Gambling / Re: SPORTSBET.IO - Win a share of 3000 mBTC every day during EURO 2016! on: July 02, 2016, 01:44:16 AM
Imported the raffle results into excel and analyzed.  It's possible I screwed something up somewhere, I don't care enough to make absolutely sure I didn't, if someone else does cool, let me know.

It's possible there are multiple users with same first three characters, obviously this data assumes there are not.

Last 16 Drawings

3023 Total Entries
416 Prizes
221 Unique Winners
4 Users with 6 wins
12 Users with 5+ wins
26 Users with 4+ wins
45 Users with 3+ wins
98 Users with 2+ wins
123 Users with exactly 1 win

(Average) 189 Entries Per Drawing
(Average) 86% Chance of Not Winning Each Drawing

Top 30 By Total mBTC won
Code:
Name        # of Wins  Total Won
and******* 5 2600
Mar******* 5 1300
how******* 5 1250
als******* 4 1150
lin******* 4 1150
MrS******* 4 1150
Num******* 3 1150
pop******* 3 1150
har******* 3 1100
jof******* 2 1100
akb******* 2 1050
bri******* 2 1050
Ale******* 1 1000
bet******* 1 1000
rio******* 1 1000
slo******* 1 1000
agb******* 4 800
was******* 5 800
gez******* 4 650
her******* 3 600
Kiy******* 3 600
Lin******* 2 550
din******* 1 500
inc******* 1 500
jer******* 1 500
Too******* 1 500
Xia******* 1 500
You******* 1 500
ale******* 6 400

All Users with 4 or more wins (26 total)
Code:
Name        # of Wins  Total Won
ale******* 6 400
Ser******* 6 400
Bud******* 6 350
san******* 6 350
and******* 5 2600
Mar******* 5 1300
how******* 5 1250
was******* 5 800
tim******* 5 400
Dar******* 5 350
bar******* 5 300
MON******* 5 250
als******* 4 1150
lin******* 4 1150
MrS******* 4 1150
agb******* 4 800
gez******* 4 650
BIT******* 4 350
HR_******* 4 350
mrn******* 4 350
pan******* 4 350
wdw******* 4 350
uma******* 4 250
php******* 4 200
Rap******* 4 200
Stu******* 4 200

All Winners(221 total)
Code:
Name        # of Wins  Total Won
3D2******* 1 50
abs******* 1 50
act******* 1 100
add******* 1 50
Afr******* 2 150
agb******* 4 800
aja******* 1 50
akb******* 2 1050
ale******* 6 400
Ale******* 1 1000
alf******* 1 50
als******* 4 1150
ami******* 2 150
Ana******* 1 50
and******* 5 2600
ans******* 1 50
Ant******* 2 100
Arc******* 2 100
asa******* 1 50
ash******* 1 50
BAd******* 1 50
Bal******* 2 100
Ban******* 2 100
bap******* 1 50
bar******* 5 300
bel******* 2 100
bet******* 1 1000
BIT******* 4 350
blt******* 1 200
bon******* 1 50
bri******* 2 1050
BTC******* 2 150
Btw******* 3 200
Buc******* 1 50
Bud******* 6 350
can******* 3 150
caz******* 2 100
cfc******* 1 100
Chi******* 1 50
Cli******* 1 50
com******* 2 250
CP4******* 2 100
cri******* 1 50
cro******* 2 150
daf******* 1 50
DAH******* 1 50
Dar******* 5 350
Dev******* 1 50
dia******* 2 100
dil******* 2 100
din******* 1 500
dka******* 1 50
dom******* 1 50
dot******* 2 100
Dou******* 2 100
dwa******* 2 100
Ele******* 1 50
emb******* 1 50
End******* 2 100
fab******* 3 200
Fal******* 1 50
fed******* 1 50
Fle******* 1 50
fly******* 1 50
foo******* 2 100
gal******* 3 250
gez******* 4 650
GGF******* 1 50
Gia******* 1 50
Giz******* 3 150
Gon******* 1 50
gra******* 2 100
gre******* 1 50
gru******* 2 100
gry******* 2 100
Gue******* 2 150
gui******* 1 50
gut******* 2 250
ham******* 1 50
har******* 3 1100
Haz******* 1 50
her******* 3 600
hig******* 1 50
him******* 1 200
hir******* 1 50
hoo******* 1 50
how******* 5 1250
HR_******* 4 350
hyp******* 1 50
inc******* 1 500
iq1******* 2 100
IWa******* 1 50
jac******* 1 50
Jam******* 1 50
jef******* 2 100
jer******* 1 500
jes******* 1 100
jik******* 1 50
jof******* 2 1100
jua******* 1 50
jum******* 2 100
Jur******* 1 100
JYP******* 1 50
kal******* 2 100
kam******* 2 100
kar******* 1 50
kau******* 1 50
kha******* 1 50
Kin******* 1 50
Kiy******* 3 600
kni******* 2 150
L3g******* 2 100
lat******* 1 50
let******* 3 150
lin******* 4 1150
Lin******* 2 550
lov******* 1 200
lyu******* 1 50
mac******* 1 50
mak******* 1 50
Mar******* 5 1300
mar******* 3 200
mas******* 1 200
Max******* 3 150
mdr******* 1 100
Mel******* 2 150
Mem******* 1 50
mis******* 2 100
mla******* 1 50
MON******* 5 250
Mop******* 1 50
mrg******* 1 50
mrh******* 1 50
Mrk******* 1 100
mrn******* 4 350
MrS******* 4 1150
mur******* 2 100
mvs******* 1 50
ndn******* 3 150
neg******* 1 50
Nic******* 1 50
nik******* 1 100
Num******* 3 1150
Obs******* 3 200
ole******* 2 100
ons******* 1 50
OOO******* 1 50
Orz******* 1 100
osa******* 1 100
pan******* 4 350
pap******* 1 50
pas******* 2 100
Pat******* 1 100
peb******* 1 50
Per******* 1 50
php******* 4 200
Pil******* 1 50
pmc******* 2 150
pop******* 3 1150
pra******* 1 50
pun******* 1 100
pur******* 3 150
pwe******* 2 100
qoo******* 1 50
que******* 1 50
ral******* 1 100
ran******* 2 100
Rap******* 4 200
Ras******* 1 50
Rea******* 1 50
rio******* 1 1000
rob******* 3 150
rya******* 1 50
Sam******* 1 50
san******* 6 350
Sav******* 1 50
Ser******* 6 400
sge******* 1 50
sha******* 3 300
shi******* 1 50
shl******* 3 150
Sit******* 2 100
Sli******* 1 50
slo******* 1 1000
spe******* 2 100
spi******* 2 100
spo******* 2 100
spy******* 2 100
sta******* 2 150
sto******* 1 50
Str******* 1 50
Stu******* 4 200
sug******* 2 100
Syl******* 1 50
tes******* 1 50
tim******* 5 400
tjd******* 1 50
Too******* 1 500
tre******* 1 50
Tro******* 2 100
Tsc******* 1 50
uma******* 4 250
vad******* 1 50
Val******* 1 50
ven******* 1 50
vil******* 1 50
Vin******* 1 50
wag******* 1 50
was******* 5 800
wdw******* 4 350
Why******* 1 50
wop******* 1 50
Xia******* 1 500
xin******* 2 150
YAi******* 1 50
You******* 1 500
Zaj******* 2 100
zbe******* 1 50
Zde******* 1 200
Zla******* 1 50
Zoe******* 1 50

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