Hello everyone,
Statistics from the Stage 8 are done and ready, but I won't share them to the public - if you want to get a link send me PM (restricted only to our Participants) and I will send you back the link.
Betcoin is obviously not making their stats public because they want me to have as little information as possible to use against them. .01 BTC to whoever sends me this link first. - Send it from alt account if you want to protect your identity
- First send me pm and say you want to send the link, if I haven't received it yet, I'll let you know and you can send link and address to be paid.
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Anytime someone uses the "All the other sites are worse" argument To defend a site is a very bad sign imp
The current state of Bitcoin poker is sad right now, so am I.
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I like the site and the low min. bet, but the delays for withdrawing are definitively not good.
It's also definitely not good that they have unresolved scam accusations for over BTC19 for months now and have vanished from the forum (other than to make the $5 giveaway thread) when it became obvious the withdraws should be paid. Hopefully players will read their trust feedback and realize any deposit on a site that behaves this way hurts all honest players and sites in the big picture.
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Can you tell me where my post that accused ? or you can not tell which questions and where allegations before I saw someone make a post about the username Mar *** after checking it turns right this user won nearly every day so there are only two possibilities : 1. more than one user using the username Mar*** 2. the most fortunate people
So what wrong?
3. employee - fake account There are clearly two seperate users (at least), Mar****** and mar****** Instead of everyone interperting what Google+ means by "after checking this user won nearly every day" Name # of Wins Total Won Mar******* 5 1300 mar******* 5 500
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Directbet, I am going to assume you are scamming the shit out of me if you dont send my btc back. 3 + days is more than enough time to send my coin back. It confirmed days ago and your ignoring my email and PMs
Working with BTC should be within hours not multiple days.
Did you email them back yet? why would I email you, an anonymous bitcoin book, when I just messaged you here.....and you responded lol If you haven't I think you should. Some reasons why you should email them: - They asked you to email them
- They have your bitcoin
- You want it back
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I know I said I wouldn't post in this thread anymore but I want to clarify the hungarstyles situation. After requiring hungerstyle to present KYC information, DirectBet paid hungerstyle his deposit plus winnings. Directbet refunded the wager but did not payout the winnings from the BTC36 bet. There was a smaller BTC2 wager that was paid, I'm not aware of the exact details behind that one though. DirectBet requested KYC information, but I think it's fair to assume they ultimately paid Hungarstyle out of respect for the publics opinion without receiving any valid information. ( DirectBet claimed the documents submitted were altered. Also, I think it's safe to assume many users, including myself, would submit fraudulent personal information if they were in hungarstyles situation ) While many details of the situation make DirectBet worthy of serious criticism, they should be praised for ultimately conceding to the overall view of the general public encouraging other sites to do the same in the future. I think ultimately the best way to avoid these situations in the future is to convince players and sites to come up with a dispute resolution policy that involves a unbiased third party.
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anyone here tried to play in Bovada or Bodog from a restricted country ?? if yes please tell me how I'm really disappointed , I have always wanted to play there and was so glad when they started accepting bitcoins but it showed that they don't accept people from my country ( same with Bodog and the asian version ) I thought that the unregulated sites that accept US players do accept players from all countries ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I don't know this as fact, but i think if you can show a bill or something to show your residence is somewhere they accept players they will approve account and then if you travel somewhere else and play you won't have problems. just avoid sharing ip or computer with any other Bodog acct.
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All my deposits to Bodog have been relatively quick. If I recall, it only took a few minutes each time.
Never mind. Scratch this lol. Just deposited, had 3 confirmations within their 15 minute window and had to phone in and even though I had Bodog support confirm that they see funds in the deposit address, I have to wait up to 6 hours, and am instructed to e-mail them screenshots only AFTER that 6 hours. Really has changed my view on Bodog services. its been 2 weeks since, but my last two deposits, each for $1k usd were available in account within 20 seconds (0 confirms) they prob got raped by doublespend chip dumps and now are over compensating. could easily take a site that size a year or more before they figure out reliable way to protect them self and still be efficient plus train staff.
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A lot of players have been complaining that in the tweet where SWC stated that the rake had been lowered, they neglected to mention that they actually increased the rake on tournaments. Has anyone heard anything about tournament rake increases or by how much it's been increased?
it looks like it was increased by less than 2%. I don't like how they went about it and they should have made an announcement about it for sure. it's still lower than any other site tho. I think it's a little more than 2%...5 chip tourneys went from 4.90 + 0.10 chips to 4.70 + 0.30 chips = 200% increase. I can't remember the last time I played tourney on SWC tbh. Sites only good for cash games i mean why play small sngs when you can play overlays and big tourneys on betcoin/wpn. excellent point, not shilly at all
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Jason ain't responding again. He might have been bribed with say 50k $
And probably forced to sign an NDA. Either with Betsoft, Betcoin or both. That NDA would be pretty useless since they would have to consent to whatever jurisdiction Jason lives in to enforce it. (it could only be enforced by a court in his country)
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This thread has that magical quality that attracts signature sluts like a magnet. I predict over 200 posts by July 18th of 2-3 sentence vague "its not rigged" "it might be rigged" nonsense posts mostly by users being paid by a gambling site. Advanced versions of the yobit guys. Example: If you have experienced long loosing streak it doesn't mean Primedice is rigged or is not fair.There is well known industry recognized provably fair system on what I do trust to make any site fair.Primedice is one of the top class dice site working and being live for long time.It all depends on your luck in gambling keep in mind of loosing at first then it will not hurt much.
We know how easy can someone make this pictures, primedice is here for a long time, why would they do something like that? Now when they have so many giveaways, here and on Facebook, and some signature campaign. I don't believe in this faking stats, this is just one more newbie with first thread about son scam. I need much more evidence's to be convinced in something like this.
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And I want to debunk another very interesting comment of panjul07. Do you think I would ask anyone here about the promo rules if I wanted to abuse this promo? Or do you think creation alt accounts on SportsBet with the same exact names I always use (and it is not a secret at all) is logical if want to cheat?
I know you asked panjul, but I'll answer anyway. Yes, I think you might ask about the rules if you wanted to abuse the promo. The question you asked here from your alt made it seem very likely you intended to abuse the promotion actually. Did you think by asking, people would think "oh that's Slark, an alt of maku. Well he's asking about the rules here so obviously he must not intend to abuse this promotion!" First of all, thanks for great refund promo Sportsbet.io - I shared news about this promo with friends. And as they are not regulars of bitcointalk I expect they might create new forum's account just to participate in this promo. So my question is: is this perfectly fine to do so?
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I placed my single bet on Belgium v Wales yesterday and it was confirmed like 12 hours after the match was over. Bets are not confirmed automatically, right after the game is over?
Also after 5 tries I never win anything in the promo raffle, maybe tomorrow will be my lucky day...
really, I thought thsee were you and your alt Hazir Haz******* 1 50 mak******* 1 50
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Hello, Thank you for all of the messages, I reviewed all of the accounts and sent a PM to each of you. @Spammers - please find suitable thread for your posts, this is our campaign thread and it's not mentioned for any other topics than our signature campaign, thanks! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Best regards. Dont know where u pm me???...dont see anything in email, bitcointalk-account or betcoin...so again where do u pm me? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Send u again a mail on support mail at betcoin... Why should I PM you ? I'm a campaign manager not a psychiatrist. Sorry. I PMed people who posted their will to join us. Not trolls. @TwitchyScamSpammerSeal please don't teach me what I should and should not to post. And again please post your bullshit somewhere else. We don't care about your opinion. I just added you to my ignore list - and I suggest to others do the same thing. Thank you. Funny, so i open a ticket yesterday, no answer till now, i send email on support email-adress, no answer till now. Where else should i send my request when i never receive any mail??? I guess you should wait for an answer or use the Live Support. This is a signature campaign thread. Best regards. Betcoin is using BitcoinTalk to promote their business while choosing to ignore multiple scam accusation threads over the past several months. The most recent issue involves a player not being paid over 500 BTC and betcoin changing their terms and making it seem like they didn't after the fact. Are you really going to keep asking me to leave this thread so you can continue working to promote this site without being bothered? Get real. Didn't you say in another thread that it was Betsoft who did not pay? Hmm, you could go check the other thread to see exactly what I said huh? But hey, I'll be nice and explain it for you here in case you don't know how to find your way back to my comment. Betsoft is the software provider who ultimately owes the 500+ BTC bitcoin jackpot. Betcoin is the casino that has chosen to side with Betsoft rather than the player. (Bitcasino.io, Vegascasino.io and Sportsbet.io have already removed all Betsoft Jackpot slots, I expect others to follow) After the player hit ths jackpot, both Betcoin and Betsoft changed their terms without notice to make it seem as if the player had never qualified to begin with. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2Feab31903f4c89e3ac4ecca5f9415d1c7.png&t=663&c=dtAjsuiXVmXx9w) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F46e43050c2aaf99589c4af0c0d3a8fa8.png&t=663&c=CZbjrXWglq6ebg) Betcoins Terms as of 13 Apr 2016 08:10:37 UTC: https://archive.is/GntG5The Same Terms as of today, 30 Jun 2016 18:17:27 UTC: https://archive.is/W0wVZBetcoin.ag did Betsoft changed your terms and conditions and how did you forgot to change date of T&C update. Post publicly what u did to sole jasonort's issue. How you can call Twichy spammer when he is doing more than you to protect your players. I think betcoins definition of spam is anything they don't want to see and especially don't want anyone else to see. so yeah, that would make me the biggest spammer of all time in their eyes.
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If you wanna know the truth why you haven't heard from Jason, its because he was probably "paid off" by Betcoin to simply shut up about it. This topic has drastically killed their marketing and player base. I'm sure that Jason and Betcoin talked it out, and decided on a number (much smaller than the jackpot) for him to just stop talking.
Hopefully they are trying to find 500+ bitcoin to pay Jason. The fact that Jason has gone quiet probably means communication has been made, just not a resolution. Betcoin has completely changed their tune from: (I'm paraphrasing here) "Of course Jason didn't win. Any casino would agree with us, it's not our fault, we're just following the rules (that don't exist) usually players understand this, we wonder why Jason doesn't?" To: Don't worry about the spammers guys. They also help drive traffic to Betcoin.ag and keep our thread at the top.
As the forum rep, all we can say right now is that jasonort has continued to play at Betcoin everyday since his Betsoft issue and we have worked very hard for him on this. We will always do what is right for our players and there will be more information to follow. We have not talked publicly about the matter because it just leads to speculation and trolling which is not productive or conducive to progress. This happened to jasonort and he still plays with us almost everyday. We would have done the same for all of our great players.
On another note, our traffic and play has been very solid in all aspects and we want to thank all of your for your support and involvement in our program. Another stage coming soon!
(I'm the spammer they are referring to by the way) Thats right, they have claimed "We have not talked publicly about the matter" Despite over a week ago sig campaign thread: Most of the top casinos feature Betsoft games and you play directly on the casinos servers under their rules and we pay out based on this and are credited on a big win such as this would have been. It would have been awesome for us from a marketing perspective to announce this win, but it is not a jackpot win within Betsoft's rules as it is a free spin and not a max bet paid round according to Betsoft. The result would have been the same on any other website.
Or 3 days after Jason hit the jackpot: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2Fbf23a743525ba3d7f2c68ef2059cab6c.png&t=663&c=HxbsU_f9KgXTMA) More recently in their chat room: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F69e35b45c6fef60b7dff4c2cd214a69f.png&t=663&c=_AgnAzI19fgBAA) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F29ba195a127e303005381b4a0665352d.png&t=663&c=x3zRWkmjdp4ldQ)
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Whoa! That's lot of work man.Thanks for doing that.I should be checking the data myself laters.What I would like to like to know from the collected results,how many users that we know have won the mega 1 BTC prize,because most of the known genuine winners are usually the one's with 0.05 BTC or 0.10 BTC.The players winning higher amounts are not known of,there is a possibility sportsbet.io is giving those mega prizes to their shill accounts.When questioned before,this is what sportsbets.io replied.Definitely they've got their stats all wrong. I just checked the most lucky winner of all raffles: player with nickname "and*******". He won in 5 raffles from 10, and he is the only one who won so many times (next player won 3 times from 10).
I'm guessing sportsbet.io was reffering to the stats after only 10 drawings. Mine are from 16. Still, and****** has 5 wins, so I guess all from first 10 raffles? I cross refrenced the players from the list who made a bet for the recent promo found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458173.msg15437781#msg15437781With the 16 winners of 1000 mbtc or more. 4 matches. Doesn't actually prove anything, but imo if god came down and was about to tell us the truth, I think sportsbet.io drawings NOT being fraudulent would be a favorite. har******* 3 1100/ - harvagas https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=669334 (although he claims in a post his username is macjavares... hmmm) bri******* 2 1050 - brianlee001 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=61807Ale******* 1 1000 - Aleppo, srgkrgkj said this was his username https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458173.msg15414160#msg15414160rio******* 1 1000 - rio333 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=531392The players that haven't won anything are more likely to make more posts about not winning than the players that have. Then when they don't when a few more in a row, they think it should prove something. (it doesn't) For example, there's around a 90% chance this person will have a streak of 10 losses in a row then post about it. Same chance as anyone to lose one drawing. Wow you guys have won multiple times. I haven't won a single time in like 5-6 raffles. I wonder when I will get atleast 1 prize. Been in like 6 raffles till now.
Well I also have been in like 7 raffles and never won anything so don't really know how that works lol.
Easier for you to say. You won 2 times. I have been in like 8-9 raffles and yet to win. Thats why.
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Maybe op should lock stupid thread.
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Is glitch still around? What are his thoughts on current situation if so?
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To make this situation clear, in our casino, we have slots produced by different software manufacturers, so that`s much easier for us to rent all these games from 1 supplier than to make integrations with 4-5 companies individually. Ahh, so the reason you offer pirated software instead of legitimate licensed version is because it's "much easier"to work with someone that hook you up with pirated games from 4-5 software provider. Thanks for the explanation, idiot.
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Imported the raffle results into excel and analyzed. It's possible I screwed something up somewhere, I don't care enough to make absolutely sure I didn't, if someone else does cool, let me know. It's possible there are multiple users with same first three characters, obviously this data assumes there are not. Last 16 Drawings3023 Total Entries 416 Prizes 221 Unique Winners 4 Users with 6 wins 12 Users with 5+ wins 26 Users with 4+ wins 45 Users with 3+ wins 98 Users with 2+ wins 123 Users with exactly 1 win (Average) 189 Entries Per Drawing (Average) 86% Chance of Not Winning Each Drawing Top 30 By Total mBTC wonName # of Wins Total Won and******* 5 2600 Mar******* 5 1300 how******* 5 1250 als******* 4 1150 lin******* 4 1150 MrS******* 4 1150 Num******* 3 1150 pop******* 3 1150 har******* 3 1100 jof******* 2 1100 akb******* 2 1050 bri******* 2 1050 Ale******* 1 1000 bet******* 1 1000 rio******* 1 1000 slo******* 1 1000 agb******* 4 800 was******* 5 800 gez******* 4 650 her******* 3 600 Kiy******* 3 600 Lin******* 2 550 din******* 1 500 inc******* 1 500 jer******* 1 500 Too******* 1 500 Xia******* 1 500 You******* 1 500 ale******* 6 400 All Users with 4 or more wins (26 total)Name # of Wins Total Won ale******* 6 400 Ser******* 6 400 Bud******* 6 350 san******* 6 350 and******* 5 2600 Mar******* 5 1300 how******* 5 1250 was******* 5 800 tim******* 5 400 Dar******* 5 350 bar******* 5 300 MON******* 5 250 als******* 4 1150 lin******* 4 1150 MrS******* 4 1150 agb******* 4 800 gez******* 4 650 BIT******* 4 350 HR_******* 4 350 mrn******* 4 350 pan******* 4 350 wdw******* 4 350 uma******* 4 250 php******* 4 200 Rap******* 4 200 Stu******* 4 200 All Winners(221 total)Name # of Wins Total Won 3D2******* 1 50 abs******* 1 50 act******* 1 100 add******* 1 50 Afr******* 2 150 agb******* 4 800 aja******* 1 50 akb******* 2 1050 ale******* 6 400 Ale******* 1 1000 alf******* 1 50 als******* 4 1150 ami******* 2 150 Ana******* 1 50 and******* 5 2600 ans******* 1 50 Ant******* 2 100 Arc******* 2 100 asa******* 1 50 ash******* 1 50 BAd******* 1 50 Bal******* 2 100 Ban******* 2 100 bap******* 1 50 bar******* 5 300 bel******* 2 100 bet******* 1 1000 BIT******* 4 350 blt******* 1 200 bon******* 1 50 bri******* 2 1050 BTC******* 2 150 Btw******* 3 200 Buc******* 1 50 Bud******* 6 350 can******* 3 150 caz******* 2 100 cfc******* 1 100 Chi******* 1 50 Cli******* 1 50 com******* 2 250 CP4******* 2 100 cri******* 1 50 cro******* 2 150 daf******* 1 50 DAH******* 1 50 Dar******* 5 350 Dev******* 1 50 dia******* 2 100 dil******* 2 100 din******* 1 500 dka******* 1 50 dom******* 1 50 dot******* 2 100 Dou******* 2 100 dwa******* 2 100 Ele******* 1 50 emb******* 1 50 End******* 2 100 fab******* 3 200 Fal******* 1 50 fed******* 1 50 Fle******* 1 50 fly******* 1 50 foo******* 2 100 gal******* 3 250 gez******* 4 650 GGF******* 1 50 Gia******* 1 50 Giz******* 3 150 Gon******* 1 50 gra******* 2 100 gre******* 1 50 gru******* 2 100 gry******* 2 100 Gue******* 2 150 gui******* 1 50 gut******* 2 250 ham******* 1 50 har******* 3 1100 Haz******* 1 50 her******* 3 600 hig******* 1 50 him******* 1 200 hir******* 1 50 hoo******* 1 50 how******* 5 1250 HR_******* 4 350 hyp******* 1 50 inc******* 1 500 iq1******* 2 100 IWa******* 1 50 jac******* 1 50 Jam******* 1 50 jef******* 2 100 jer******* 1 500 jes******* 1 100 jik******* 1 50 jof******* 2 1100 jua******* 1 50 jum******* 2 100 Jur******* 1 100 JYP******* 1 50 kal******* 2 100 kam******* 2 100 kar******* 1 50 kau******* 1 50 kha******* 1 50 Kin******* 1 50 Kiy******* 3 600 kni******* 2 150 L3g******* 2 100 lat******* 1 50 let******* 3 150 lin******* 4 1150 Lin******* 2 550 lov******* 1 200 lyu******* 1 50 mac******* 1 50 mak******* 1 50 Mar******* 5 1300 mar******* 3 200 mas******* 1 200 Max******* 3 150 mdr******* 1 100 Mel******* 2 150 Mem******* 1 50 mis******* 2 100 mla******* 1 50 MON******* 5 250 Mop******* 1 50 mrg******* 1 50 mrh******* 1 50 Mrk******* 1 100 mrn******* 4 350 MrS******* 4 1150 mur******* 2 100 mvs******* 1 50 ndn******* 3 150 neg******* 1 50 Nic******* 1 50 nik******* 1 100 Num******* 3 1150 Obs******* 3 200 ole******* 2 100 ons******* 1 50 OOO******* 1 50 Orz******* 1 100 osa******* 1 100 pan******* 4 350 pap******* 1 50 pas******* 2 100 Pat******* 1 100 peb******* 1 50 Per******* 1 50 php******* 4 200 Pil******* 1 50 pmc******* 2 150 pop******* 3 1150 pra******* 1 50 pun******* 1 100 pur******* 3 150 pwe******* 2 100 qoo******* 1 50 que******* 1 50 ral******* 1 100 ran******* 2 100 Rap******* 4 200 Ras******* 1 50 Rea******* 1 50 rio******* 1 1000 rob******* 3 150 rya******* 1 50 Sam******* 1 50 san******* 6 350 Sav******* 1 50 Ser******* 6 400 sge******* 1 50 sha******* 3 300 shi******* 1 50 shl******* 3 150 Sit******* 2 100 Sli******* 1 50 slo******* 1 1000 spe******* 2 100 spi******* 2 100 spo******* 2 100 spy******* 2 100 sta******* 2 150 sto******* 1 50 Str******* 1 50 Stu******* 4 200 sug******* 2 100 Syl******* 1 50 tes******* 1 50 tim******* 5 400 tjd******* 1 50 Too******* 1 500 tre******* 1 50 Tro******* 2 100 Tsc******* 1 50 uma******* 4 250 vad******* 1 50 Val******* 1 50 ven******* 1 50 vil******* 1 50 Vin******* 1 50 wag******* 1 50 was******* 5 800 wdw******* 4 350 Why******* 1 50 wop******* 1 50 Xia******* 1 500 xin******* 2 150 YAi******* 1 50 You******* 1 500 Zaj******* 2 100 zbe******* 1 50 Zde******* 1 200 Zla******* 1 50 Zoe******* 1 50
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