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5741  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Time for Binance DEX? on: July 09, 2019, 03:32:10 PM
I think the difference between IEO and dex is that dex doesn't have to be IEO neither as far as I know. I mean you can have a coin that s not coming up just new but an old one and should still be able to get listed there.

I think there have been couple of projects that did some stuff all by themselves without getting funded all by just selling their coins the normal way and creating a big demand for it by showing how awesome it is actually plan on getting listed on binance dex as well and they are already published which means they will be actually getting crazy amount of money the old fashion way by selling instead of creating some IEO or ICO whatever. I am very excited about the listings of the coins but not the IEO of them honestly, old ones at the new place would mean a lot.
5742  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Correct and Upcoming Price Prediction on: July 09, 2019, 06:53:26 AM
Bitcoin will reach to 20k this year for sure if not it will reach there before the halving happens. I mean we are already bullish right now and we are nowhere near that halving so that means on top of the current bull run we are having there will be a bull run of halving plus the miners will stop selling for their current price and will sell for higher and you combine all of this to tell me it won't reach 20k?

I would say that is damn interesting, some huge rich whale must sell like a billion bitcoins just to keep us here, it has happened before and I am sure it will happen again some day but as long as that doesn't happen and we are just on our regular market then I am 99% sure bitcoin will reach and go beyond 20 thousand dollar levels once again and break the all time high record.
5743  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥🎲MyDogeDice.com🔥🎲 | Free Dogecoin💰 | Dice Game🎲 on: July 08, 2019, 03:36:41 PM
I can honestly say that this is the most minimalist dice game I have ever seen but by far the most easiest one to just play for a while and leave. I mean lets be honest they lack many features and they do not have what many other casinos have, I haven't seen automatic, there is no max cap when you have 0.1 doge and you say double it goes over your bankroll and you can't play, in many places when you say max it just goes whatever amount you have in your wallet.

There are plenty of stuff like that, but no matter how noob and new it looks, its giving you free doge to try it and you can do it for couple of minutes to get your fun and entertainment. Some people gamble for money, this may not be for them, some people gamble for entertainment, this place is right for that.
5744  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♠ Fair.Poker | Provably Fair Bitcoin Texas Hold’em | HTML5 | Play Now! on: July 08, 2019, 01:12:07 PM
I like playing poker so when it comes to gambling in crypto I check as many poker tables as I can to see if I can find anything decent. I only know taxes holdem and not really even sure about the rules of the others so I am not even looking into those. I usually play in another big poker game of crypto which I will not name to not look like advertisement but there was very few people playing there, I like their tech and development as well.

I wanted to check here about the user base to see if there would be more people but it seems like there are not that many here neither, crypto poker tables being not crowded is a big problem in all of crypto gambling, why do people want to play so much poker online all around the world but there are so few playing in crypto is always boggles my mind, I hope we can get a huge user base one day.
5745  Economy / Economics / Re: The problem bitcoin solves on: July 08, 2019, 07:21:35 AM
There is a big difference between using bitcoin as a payment globally and using bitcoin as investment. First of all the global payment thing is awesome but it is becoming worse and worse, the blocks are more heavy, the transactions cost more and the times are getting worse as well.

We are at an age where you can send money to your friend in a second via digital banking right now and we are here talking about how it is awesome for bitcoin to send a 30 dollar to someone in another country in 6 hours with 5 bucks transaction fee. So that used to be the best thing about bitcoin because it was less than 30 minutes and cost only few cents, nowadays the investment part is getting more attention because just recently we have moved %200+ upwards in the past 3-4 months, that is why the problem bitcoin solves changes all the time.
5746  Economy / Economics / Re: What are some not so obvious things that damage a country's economy? on: July 07, 2019, 04:56:22 PM
I do not understand how nobody talked about bureaucratic incompetence. If you are a country that is ally with someone and enemies with another country and do something to the enemy where your ally doesn't support you, you will get bad in economy.

If you are allies with a country that keeps helping you and then you go against them then your economy will get worse. Basically if you do anything bad against any country aside from your enemies which already you act badly then you will get a bad response. There is a very few chances of embargo going around but trade wars are real things and you have to just focus on making more allies these days than ever, you have to be friends with USA AND China, you have to be friends with UK AND Russia, you can't just be picking sides, you have to be Swiss in every regard to get out of this economic mess the whole world is in.
5747  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How much money do I need to start investing on bitmex? on: July 07, 2019, 04:25:06 PM
It also depends on what type of leverage you want to do as well. I mean just 500 bucks on 100x leverage could make someones life change a whole lot if you know the direction bitcoin is going. You can literally make thousands of dollars in an hour, if you invest at the right time with the 100x leverage and 500 dollars, there is no reason why you should not have over 10k in just couple of hours if the price goes up without going down (or if you bought short then goes down without going up) because the margin of error is low but the reward is that much great as well.

However, if you want to do less leverage like 5x or whatever then you may not get that much of a profit at all and might as well do the regular trading instead of margin trading. That is why which leverage you will use kind of decides how much you would need.
5748  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win a Lamborghini Huracan LP 580-2!! on: July 07, 2019, 03:31:42 PM
In those sports games when you get 10% back or 6% back with USA or Brazil and what not, those are calculated odds, those are not random stuff, sportsbooks does give 1 in 10 chance for Netherlands to win for example so they are actually not offering 1000x for Netherlands just to give an example, this is soccer, if you have watched it long enough you will probably know that anything could happen, it would be uncommon and weird if USA loses to Netherlands but it wouldn't be the most shocking thing ever happened in soccer, we had a Leicester city championship for Christ sake, so its a low return for your invest because USA is clear favorites but do not bet the house on it, many people literally bet their house on stuff like that because it was "so sure" and lost.
5749  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲EOSBet.io - Licensed Casino Platform 🎲Provably Fair 🎲NOW ACCEPTING BTC ₿ on: July 07, 2019, 02:55:08 PM
I guess there is one point he might be right, that is what we have been calling for a marketing plan and not just b2b where the eosbet owners go to some conferences and speak, those are not helpful at all, I mean google/bitcointalk/reddit type of real advertisements but nobody listens. When the token gets listed, it is not going to be possible to convince people to bet more to get more tokens, they will just buy it and that is why the wagered numbers will have a sharp decline and that would affect the amount of dividends you get as well.

We need to find more ways to get people back in here after that happens. Nobody will care about what I say once again and hopefully that wouldn't result with 10 dollar weeks once again like we once used to have, that would be a shame after going this far.
5750  Economy / Economics / Re: Big Bankers Say Cryptocurrencies Do Not Threat The Global Financial Stability on: July 06, 2019, 08:46:15 PM
I guess they are saying it will not destroy global financial stability, thats not a bad thing. Everyone keeps reading this and hears "banks will survive crypto and crypto is not strong enough to destroy banks" but maybe they are just saying "crypto is the new financial revolution and banks will adapt to it", maybe they are actually coming around and thinking crypto is actually what would make banks better?

That is still a possibility and I think that will ripple into the near future. There are many banks working with blockchains now or at least making experiments on them, there are ones trying to build their own coins and there are even a lot of talks banks supporting Libra as well, so as you can see crypto is not a threat, they are right, crypto is actually a support for them.
5751  Economy / Economics / Re: Can bitcoin help rebuild Venezuela? - Darb Finance on: July 06, 2019, 06:16:42 PM
I think the best part about bitcoin and Venezuela is that it can be an example to whole world. If Venezuela somehow gets out of this mess they are in thanks to crypto currency then other countries with the same problem but not as big may start to use it as well.

I mean not just bitcoin but they are building their own currency as well, oil is priced in dollar everywhere around the world, if they decide to sell it via Petro the crypto currency they print then they can just sell it to whoever they want and not sell it with their own national currency and make Petro more loved by other countries (forced to love to buy oil) and that is how they can come out of this mess. If other countries with problems on their currency used this tactic after that and go out then whole world may do the same.
5752  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Manipulation of cryptocurrency exchanges. on: July 06, 2019, 04:27:06 PM
I think they are kind of right, I think it should be done too. I mean think about it, you probably know some coins that rarely ever get any volume, they are done and nobody trades them, if you have 50 thousand of that coin whereas the daily volume is like maybe 5 thousand at best, you will have to spend a lot of time and lose a lot of its value until you can manage to sell it, what normally would make you 0.3 bitcoin if you could sell it at market price will take you a month and would return 0.15 at best.

So, as you can see that is the small scale problems with low volume, when it comes to top of the list like bitcoin and ethereum all exchanges should make these kinds of fake volumes so it looks like bitcoin is still interesting or even if its interesting make it more exciting.
5753  Economy / Speculation / Re: somebody pulled the flush yesterday on: July 06, 2019, 03:41:22 PM
I think the difference between panic sellers and whales is that whales can afford to lose and they are eating up that risk to make more money while panic sellers are usually people who are getting into bitcoin with money they actually shouldn't and whenever it gets low they are definitely risking all of their livelihood so they get out as quickly as possible to keep themselves from going broke.

Not because whales are smart and panic sellers are idiots, if you give one of those panic sellers thousands of bitcoin and say trade this then they will do the same thing a whale will do, so its not the fact that whales are smart but your trading habits change in a second when you happen to find a lot of money to trade. I have met with whales and panic sellers and the case was always like that.
5754  Economy / Speculation / Re: Pompliano 75% Confident Bitcoin Price is $100,000 by End of 2021 on: July 05, 2019, 06:53:17 PM
this may be the last halving to have a significant effect.
You mean by upcoming halving, we are going to have supply under 10 BTC for every 10 min and by 2024 halving, we will have supply under 5 BTC means negligible supply compared to original supply of 50 BTC ? It means after this upcoming halving that we are going to have only demand against almost zero supply (a supply which is only enough for satisfying less than 10% of demand) ?

Halving may NOT lose its significance over reduced supply as supply is happening for every 10 minutes and this short time frame (compared to Gold mining or Crude oil production) may still bring enough significance to all upcoming halving.
5755  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Did you earn from the lastest bull run of BTC 3k4-8k3?? on: July 05, 2019, 03:07:16 PM
Did anyone bought BTC at 3k4 and sell BTC at 8k3 for real? How many percentage of profit did you earn from the recently bull run??
Did anyone ask your self why you always miss the train and then regret and decide to fomo?
Let's disscusion about our mentality in trading. It's really a problem for all the traders, especially the news one.
Professional traders in this group please give some advices. Thanks!!!!!
I think it is not about greed anymore, its just common knowledge plus how much money you need. First of all if you have enough money to just live and not touch your bitcoin then why would you cash out your bitcoin. I seriously think bitcoin is something that will get bigger and bigger with time, not that many people deny that fact, yeah maybe we will have years like 2018 on the road but don't you think by 2030 the price of bitcoin will be way higher than right now?

Even if it goes up and down until then? Which means if you can live without your bitcoin money, there is literally no reason to cash it out. A person with the knowledge that in 10 years bitcoin will worth more and he doesn't need to cash out for something should be keeping his bitcoins safe and not cash them out, its not greed, its common sense.
5756  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't FOMO in if you don't have what it takes - PATIENCE! on: July 05, 2019, 08:59:31 AM
There are tons of people like this, I have met with someone who literally sold NANO when nano was under 1 dollars and right now its not way higher than that but its at least a bit above but the idea is that why would you sell something you lost 80%+ value of ? I mean isn't it obvious that you will probably make at least some of it back.

Look maybe you won't profit from it, maybe you will have to wait a lot or at the very least maybe you will lose a bit, but nothing in the world would make me sell at 80%+ loss unless I have to pay something urgent and I have no other money left. That is why I keep seeing these type of people who sell when they are down because they can't wait and think it will go down further and I just feel very sorry for them, I have a friend who has been keeping his SYS for over a year and he hasn't sold, I respect him a lot.
5757  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: AVOID trading at all costs, unless.... on: July 05, 2019, 08:16:10 AM
I think "trading" could be difficult but investment is not and some of the people here mistake what investment is and what trading is. I mean trading is buying and selling something to make a profit and for their full information that is what investment is, if you buy bitcoin right now and sell it 4 years later that is still buying and selling and making a profit so they think that is trading too. That is not trading, that is literally investment.

So, if you are new and want to buy something and not look back for years then you can totally do it, if you are new and want to trade that is risky as hell. I had a friend who bought from peak 20k times even though as the only person he knows that deals with bitcoin I told him not to because he would have to wait years. He didn't listen and bought anyway and sold it when it was 8k or so, I mean even if you are new and gonna do something, at least listen to your veteran friends.
5758  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♨️🎲 WINDICE.io 🎲 Choose your lucky number 🔰 Progressive Faucet💰 Jackpots 🎁❤ on: July 04, 2019, 04:40:51 PM
I think 80 million wagers is not as big as you guys make it out to be, its the time they have managed to hit it thats huge.

I mean if you have a casino that reaches 80 million in 10 years that is not that great, which means if you take it all by itself 80 million is not the achievement here since we applaud places that does it in 1 month but find it loser if they do it on 6 years. That is why I think we should focus on how quickly windice became big, they are not even 6 month old yet I think and they already broke the 80 million number, you can calculate how much big places like stake (which had the help of primedice) gets wagered daily and compare it to windice and you will realize that windice is as famous as the biggest ones out there and that worth a ton.
5759  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎲 Dice on BTC in Telegram on: July 04, 2019, 08:06:09 AM
How do you do coding for this one? I mean to people who have no idea how a telegram casino is run, would you help us understand how you innovate and add or remove stuff from it? Because, to me it looks like this could be basically the security out there considering it is just a telegram bot basically, if you have a simple telegram bot then how can someone hack you?

There is no website to be hacked, it is just telegram, so in one way this looks like the best security out there and maybe if you explain that to us as well we may actually find something that no other casino has in security stuff. Of course maybe its my ignorance and I am very wrong, maybe its equal chances of getting hacked on telegram bot and casino website, who knows? I just never really understood how you code something for a telegram bot.
5760  Economy / Economics / Re: Issuing loans in Bitcoin, how we could do it on: July 04, 2019, 07:36:23 AM
There was a company that did something about loans with collateral and it was literally automatic. I know people are not really fans of doing it since they could literally just sell whatever they have if they were so much in need of money instead of give it as collateral but as a service for people who are looking for it that was a start.

You would for example get 100 dollars loan from them in bitcoin and give them 120 dollars worth of ethereum to them, they charge you lets say 5 bucks as interest and when you pay them 105 bucks back in bitcoin they gave you 120 dollars worth of ethereum back. Now, this makes no sense since if you need money you could just sell your ethereum instead of giving it as collateral but at least it was a start and you could have used it. Kabbage literally started out this way and became one of the biggest digital lenders in the whole world.
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