You have no information whatsoever about who you are on your website. Why should people trust you with their money?
Having a tree on your logo is not a valid reason...
thanks for your reply. trust is a problem every new exchange service has to face, we understand your concern, we do have our reputation in bitcoin community (an long term bitcoin trade experience, financial guarantee in other exchanger etc..), and we do share this information with our partners. however, as you can see, an well knew exchanger or a public company doesn't mean it won't have any problem, people still got scammed or feel unsatisfied, yes, they can complaint them because of "they are well knew,they might care about their reputation", but be honestly, the party cares about it or not, only depends on their professional virtue,there are always "reasons,excuses" can be given, the customers satisfaction doesn't comes from the "certificate" but from the exchanger's really attitude of service and really actions. as we provide fast trade/deposit/withdraw service (10min-12H), we strongly suggest that you try us one time, to see if we actually do our business as we said. Whoisguard protected. :http://www.whois.net/whois/btctree.com Hmm. Who are you exactly and why should we trust you? Who is your partners? Can you bring forward any proof of 'we do have our reputation in bitcoin community (an long term bitcoin trade experience, financial guarantee in other exchanger etc..)' ? Your typing accent sounds foreign (from an British/American/English speaking country viewpoint), so where are you based at? A well known exchanger /public company that has a presence/can be identified in the real world do have problems, but people will know where to turn to IF any problem arises. People can locate the people responsible for it IRL. That is the main difference between an anonymous 'company' then a public one. Your company is no different then the anonymous exchangers that operates on TOR or one of this:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=74480.msg824404#msg824404 at the moment. |
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Btw I don't see MoonShadow handing out loans easily too. I would believe in his judgement tho, if he would verify here..  |
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+1. This message would be far more eye-catching and suitable for younger rebels(teenagers?), but certainly inappropriate for a teacher/government servant/law-abiding person.
And TBH we probably don't want people only interested in drugs joining anyway. Interested in drugs doesn't mean they do buy drugs, don't forget.  Sometimes the thought of possibly rebelling against the law (by having Bitcoins that couldn't be tracked and could be traded for drugs one day, personal stash of money that no one would ever know etc etc) will stir the interest in a teenager's heart. However telling that to a mature, older person who is law-abiding and doesn't want any brushes with the law would possibly make them forgo all contact with Bitcoin. Tuxavant is a bitcoin machine! Can you just be awarded the Satoshi Superstar already to get that award over with!?  And this +1! Tuxevant is a credit to the community! |
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can we put someone cool like Burt Reynolds or Carrot Top on these instead?
Or even Chuck Norris? Please? |
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Hmm do you know about bit-pay? Afaik they also have a whmcs integration.
+1 Pricing something higher in Bitcoins is dubious. I mean it isn't like any of us ONLY have Bitcoins. If something cost $x in dollars and >$x equivalent in Bitcoins then it is merely a novelty not commerce. You have no risk of fraud You have no chargeback cost. You have no discount rate. Yet the cost is higher? Dynamically adjust your prices to reflect current exchange rate and sell as you receive coins ... or have bitpay do all the work for you. +1 Just use bitpay or some payment processor that reflects the current exchange rate. You're saving on the CC/paypal costs too as compared to the regular way by using bitcoins. |
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Somehow, I think the following might get noticed a little more. Dear Teacher,
In recognition of Teacher Appreciation Week, I am giving you a gift certificate that can be used to buy the illegal drug of your choice. You can use it today to order a couple Oxycontins without a prescription, or a yummy marijuana brownie sent discreetly to your doorstep courtesy of the US Postal Service.
No, I am not giving you a five dollar bill, although that would certainly qualify as such a gift certificate. Rather, I am giving you a Bitcoin. You can redeem it at the following URL (URL goes here), and then buy the drug of your choice at this URL (here) once you download the TOR software to keep your identity anonymous.
Now that I have your attention, I want to point out I'm not really suggesting you go buy drugs (which would be shocking, I know), but I am giving you a gift of Bitcoin money, which you can spend or trade online for plain old dollars. I mention the drug market only to point out the writing on the wall - that Bitcoin works - and for better or worse, that's what brought Bitcoin to fame, just like porn was responsible for the success of the VHS videocassette.
Bitcoin is not a company, it is an invention that appeared in early 2009 that nobody knows who invented, that allows banking without banks. Bitcoin has a lot of advantages over cash. Even if you decide you have no use for it, it's worth knowing about, because sooner or later, you'll be facing classrooms full of kids who know about it.
What I am really looking to share is awareness of how Bitcoin works, for better or for worse, but mostly for better. The bitcoin I am giving you is worth real money because it is real money. Please take a few minutes to visit weusecoins.org to find out more.
Get noticed, yes. Get you into awkward conversations, also yes. Starting a conversation with an employee of the government by offering them drugs is not terribly prudent. +1. This message would be far more eye-catching and suitable for younger rebels(teenagers?), but certainly inappropriate for a teacher/government servant/law-abiding person. |
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Absolutely. I love the concept, and I would be happy to volunteer some of my spare time for free to dedicate to a noble cause. Some extra education would be the icing on the cake.
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Maybe, but if you want to find out, it'll cost (and at least that way I make up some of my losses).  That gave it away Guess you should've got the watch beforehand - it's sad seeing what people can do and say for a small sum of money..  |
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update ?
Due in two days - I have a collection agent lined up. Nicholas Milks is very easy to find. As an aside, he does like hockey, and seems to have a son. I know his work history, and his dad is Norman (around 60 years old), and has a nice, modest house. A new update is available, but in the interests of commerce, it is available by private subscription. Using my special Milkman39 address 1GJxrD74LoNC2x6pijY8Xe55ASdK74iyko you need to send 1 BTC plus a small random number of santoshi's and verify the amount by pm to receive the "what happened next" update. (for example, 1.0003428) I would think that Milkman ran off with the money, and Patrick was trying to recoup the costs by selling information on him Just my guess though. |
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I know I am new, but I only need 1.7BTC I can pay back 2BTC between tomorrow and friday.
Thank you kr105
1EgnEddjKdb8DsaxfDbYZyJtbtCHJ1Vs5m
What is guaranteeing that you wouldn't run off? And is kr105 your alternate account too? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12229 Umm, excuse me? kr105 PMed me and asked me to edit my post to put the deposit address. MoonShadow also said he would help, but I said that it was ok, because kr105 had already contacted me. That made more sense I guess. We've had an influx of people using alternate accounts and so, hence naturally I was thinking that you were signing off as kr105. My apologies if that wasn't the case. |
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I know I am new, but I only need 1.7BTC I can pay back 2BTC between tomorrow and friday.
Thank you kr105
1EgnEddjKdb8DsaxfDbYZyJtbtCHJ1Vs5m
What is guaranteeing that you wouldn't run off? And is kr105 your alternate account too? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12229 |
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That user claimed to be an adult (father), not a teenager, and he was asking for loans, not selling stocks/bonds. (And IIRC he didn't actually scam anyone, people just found him very suspicious.) I state the similarity as they both have lengthy posts with a huge story to go with the request. |
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Be careful, some of his verbiage isn't native to america. Second, cant even use spell check when he is so high tech. Smells of a scam, just cant see the end game yet.
agreed on his language, not sure about whether it's scam or not. Hello let me first say my real name is Jason, I am a 16 year student who is currently in 10th grade. I am a current resident of the United States. I first got into BitCoin around Dec 4-5 2011, when I first learned about BitCoin I was very skeptical and even with what I would consider a high intelligence for my age bracket, I was astonished that someone could basically solve the worlds finical problems with this. For about the first month I did loads of reaurch and studding, being the type of person I am, I love learning and wanted to know everything their was to know about BitCoin (I still don't know everything  ). I was stupid and never made a BitCoin forum account. I soon got the current BitCoin client, and was amazed at the complexity of such program. Anywho, following Christmas of 2011 I finally got up the confidence to send $10 through Dwolla then to Mt.Gox which is from I know at the time to be the best, which in my opinion and many others still is the best. On December 31, 2011 me and my dad had been for about a year been talking about building a gaming computer, so I mentioned to him that we could do it and then we should put a very nice graphics card into it so that when its not in use we can mine "bitcoins" which confused my dad a little so I did my best to explain the whole Bitcoin thing to him. We ordered that computer and received parts the next weekend, at first we were so excited and we started one night around 6pm, we ended at 2am when a mother board was on fire, yes on fire We were able to return many parts and the company gave us a partial refund even when they knew we had caught it on fire. That ended my dream of being a BitCoin miner. Around such time I heard about a company called "Butterfly Labs" but among the community there was strong distrust with said company. Between the months of January to April, I sent a total of about $1,500 which let me say was hard earned money, including mowing lawns for cheap prices. My dad ask me why I choose to invest in what he calls "BitCoin" instead of investing in the stock market. I feel that while investing in bitcoin I am also investing in the future of our society. By the way I am big on the whole free internet, and wanting to go into politics later in life I look in sadness at how the people who are there to represent me, do the complete opposite. Who knows you may just be reading the post of a kid who is the future president of the United States. Ok so that brings me to this point, in the resent weeks with the full understanding that Butterfly labs is a real company I have looked into buying a Butterfly labs single and true me I have done days of crunching numbers to see if its the right path for me. As a guy who commented on my youtube videos said its better to invest in bitcoin mining than to day trade with the exchange between bitcoin and USD. I have been in lots of IRC chats and have read many post. I have looked into GLBSE, Mining Contracts, Shared Rigs, and many other options. The thing is someone like me who doesn't want to invest 1,000 or more in equipment is basically limited to either GLBSE (which don't get me wrong is a good option, and me myself has money invested in such) or Trading between BTC and USD So now I have a challenge for you, lets brain storm together and come up with something that can help both the small and large investor. Lets work on something to change bitcoin, lets work together and solve this problem and lets find a way to grab the average citizen and get them into BitCoin. I am usually a person who sits back and lets others figure out how to solve things that are "To Big For Me" I say its only to big if I let it be too big. P.S. I'll be editing this post to add your ideas Thanks for reading this *Update 4/14/12 1:42AM Hello, first I want to say this is just one option of many but would be the easiest to get started. Below I am going to list the specs about if we bought the ButterFlyLabs Single. $633 starting cost Energy/month 4.088 (USD) Energy/year 49.056 (USD) 832 Mh/s First Year return needed 682.056 (USD) *After first year and the box is paid off returns will greatly increase *Prices have not been decided yet; hopping to get feedback about ideal prices Options 1 Mh/s 5 Mh/s 10 Mh/s 20 Mh/s 25 Mh/s 50 Mh/s 100 Mh/s 250 Mh/s 500 Mh/s Custom 1Mh/s-832 Mh/s (as of right now the higest is 832 Mh/s but could increase if we get more boxes) Box (which is what ever the box produces, average is 832 Mh/s) plus tons of spelling errors + spelling correct errors + weird caps, not to mention the number of holes/inconsistencies in the story. Sounds like our good old MilkMan95 (or whatever his name was) to me.. |
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Any updates lately?  +1? The new server is close to being done. This is key before we can make payouts. We still have the old data. I do not have an ETA on when this will be done. I do not have an official word from bitvps. You know all I know:) Just my daily update bump, thanks for the update. |
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Let the man do what he likes. I'm fed up trying to dig up old threads that charted the problems faced from start to the end by using PayPal. You'll see an influx of 'buyers' when carders and bot networking people hear of your new site. And the rest would be history.
I just don't want to see members of this forum get screwed if this exchange decides to cover their losses and take the money. We've all seen it happen before, let's not pretend lol That wouldn't happen. Seriously Yankee? You don't like my plan so now you attack my character? I thought you of all people were better than that. The second reason I have kept the maximum so low is because I want to have enough to cover any potential loss. Like I said, at most one transaction is what's gone. The profit I've made so far covers that. No one is going to get screwed. Period. He is afraid that you might be one of those scammers like this one was :https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=65097.0 . I haven't bothered to look for more as I'm tired now. |
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Bitarb is finished with a total pot of 105.32btc. Ive sent nefario an pm asking for a deposit address so he can pay it out as a dividend.
I thought you've hit the road already? |
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sorry in the german sub forum the ppl know me and know they can trust me.
with paypal i can pay direktly, if anyone need fast cash.
i hope the ppl in the english forum know they can trust me after the first trades here.
if ppl need it i can give them a copy of my ID, or what they need.
best regards
ZiGGi
You should realize that old established sites like spendbitcoins.com buy bitcoins using paypal too, and without any charges except the fee paypal charges (0.3%) before buying bitcoins for paypal at a 8% fee. |
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Any updates lately? +1? |
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sorry my misstake i only Buy Bitcoins and Pay with Paypal.
This. He means that bitcoin sellers take the risk and the headache incurred, not you. Buying Bitcoins for PayPal with an 8% fee? No.
The seller is taking the risk there, not the buyer, so you should be paying ABOVE MtGox if anything...
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