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581  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Small News From China on: January 02, 2016, 06:57:17 PM
Some small news from China There is fiat btc exchange service Uphold.Working globaly.Integrated with Chinise Union Pay.There is possible to  exchange btc with Yuan,pound,dollar and Euro  both way
Send and receive btc on email and even pay or receive  btc for work

Maybe  small news,but previously China has baned Union Pay.

Nothing new from this nook of the Earth. A typical move of China. A little step which verify perfectly the mentality of Chinese Governments. The famous opportunism of them which has brought China in the level which is today. Calculate perfectly what is needed and not in a given moment and act. Redoing the calculation in the needed time when needed to go forward. If needed to go ahead step ahead. If needed to go back, go back. And so again, and again. Nothing news from China can seems strange for me. Can be waited totally everything.
582  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is your biggest concern with Bitcoin right now? on: January 02, 2016, 06:06:47 PM
I am personally concerned that it will jump through the roof and I will not have enough purchased so that I can ride it up.  I think that this time when Bitcoin jumps in price, it will make a few millionaires.  I want to be one of those people, I just do not have enough at this time to make a dent in my goal if it jumps right now.

My first concern about bitcoin right now is that I have not never enough money (as I want to have) to buy bitcoin as much as I want. Then the second one the lack of velocity in its spread. Even the transactions with bitcoin were doubled the year just leaved compared to the previous one yet me seems that the are few who "play" with it or at least not as much as needed in order that we can see that all we want to see. Its value and price at higher levels, more stability of the lasts values and massive use of it everywhere.
583  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Russia's Finance Ministry Wants to Ban Bitcoin on: January 02, 2016, 02:28:53 PM
It is very surprising how many countries and governmental/commercial institutions are so willing to implement features and attributes of the blockchain and the ledger but the idea of utilizing bitcoin is pretty unnerving.

It is very easy to understand. They cannot never own bitcoin. And any country cannot like or incentive a money not owned by them. Cannot be able to control it. So in the best of this kind of cases bitcoin can be legalized and regulated to be used together with the national money but always having everything within their control. So if bitcoin can become risky can be banned without problem in every moment. We have e few important, developed and influential countries which are not doing this but are on this point of view (USA, Germany, Swiss, Canada and hopefully soon even China). In the worst of cases we find the traditionally conservative countries lead by probably, hidden or openly appeared, dictators or closed mind leaders the most typical of whom is Putin and its country about which is talked in this thread. They want everything under their total control and is out of mind that can accept a symbol of freedom and Independence like bitcoin to be used free in their propriety named Russia. First of all because of their economic policies (affected and controlled by the politics). So make everything in their hands to stop it. Totally in vain effort. More they restrict the legal space of bitcoin much more increased the illegal space of the use of it. Cannot arrive to stop never the penetration and the use of bitcoin in Russia. Whatever can do.
584  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What feature and/or change would like to see in Bitcoin? on: January 02, 2016, 02:07:08 PM
Assume every change can be done and feature added without any drama like with recent block size, and that it would not require hard-fork (even if it would).

As one can guess based on my signature, I would like to see more privacy features added to bitcoin. Also shorter confirmation time (e.g. 2 min) would be good.

What about you?

For sure for me the most important and immediate improvement that can be made to bitcoin is the find the way which will be possible the diminution of the time needed for the confirmation. Naturally that this time is connected with the production with an block and (being not an expert i this field mine is only a desire) this parameter normally must be controlled only by the technology seems almost impossible to something in this direction. But this cannot make me to stop in telling here this big a boring problem of bitcoin.

Then, and this can be perfectly solved if wanted, the second thing I want to see solved is the respect of the order in the confirmations. There are transaction who finish their process within minutes having its first confirmation with the first block created and then other transactions which must see 10-20-50-100 or even more blocks created before arriving of he One which will save the authors of those from the infinite waiting time in front a blockchain.info to see if their send bitcoin have the first confirmation. I understand that everything in this world is driven by the profit but if EVERY correct transaction with have its confirmation why cannot have it in the time which belong to it? The profit have from its confirmation don't change in time. So is the same whether will be when its turn and whether after one month. Why don't respect the line?
585  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: January 02, 2016, 01:39:28 PM
Gambling can be profitable in the long term, I'm not sure about casino but definitely horse racing, both in the UK and US. But the key to long term profit is discipline. Believe it or not I have limited access to inside info as a family member is fairly high up in a big betting firm but in all honestly even if I win on the day, most of the time I blow it because I lack the discipline. I keep wanting more.
If I was to just back the good bets I'm given, over the year I'd be f*ckin rich lol

But yeah it can be profitable in the long term if you have the discipline!!

Sure. So have "limited access to inside info as a family member is fairly high up in a big betting firm" and that "in all honesty even if "he" win on the day, most of the time I blow it because he lack the discipline" make everyone to have unlimited money gambling in horse racing. But we have a big problem: the discipline.  Huh

So (accepting that I have understand correct the big phrase above) if we have one (only one, it is completely enough to have only one) which have "limited access to inside info as a family member is fairly high up in a big betting firm" and that "in all honesty even if "he" win on the day, most of the time "he" blow it because he lack the discipline", it would be enough that this one create the discipline and "was to just back the good bets given to him" everyone on this Earth can be f...n rich. Everyone in this Earth it was enough to follow the simple rules above told and can live for generations with the money earned from the horse racing.

Then is clear now. It is possible to live with the money from gambling and that gambling is much more than profitable FOR EVERYONE. Must have a little attention regarding the discipline (it is a critic parameter in the strategic scheme given above by the poster quoted by me) but everyone can resolve to easy even this probable problem. Become at least 5 years part of Army in its country and after this period is totally ready to earn mountains of money from gambling.

Remain to find the way to create the discipline for the females. Because not every country accept females at the Army. What to do in this case? Maybe the author of the wining strategy in gambling can have another strategy even for this problem. Females are half of the population of the Earth. And have even them the right to have part in this mountain of money that can be earned with gambling using the winning strategy of the above poster quoted by me. Lets wait then some other winning strategy even in this direction from the strategic poster....  Shocked
586  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is the global currency of Earth on: January 01, 2016, 04:42:26 PM
Bitcoin can be used only in internet (at least actually). The market in internet (even is in fast increase) is yet very few compared with the real market (the market in the real world). So the everyday needs that everyone has must be fulfilled, let say, at least 80% (are more) only with fiat money. Even bitcoin is known by me and you we cannot use it out of internet. We cannot buy with it the bread, the clothes, the various foods, to pay in restaurants (normally and mostly) and so on.


I used smarthone to pay with Bitcoin in restaurant already, would do it in other places if I noticed "Bitcoin accepted here" as well. So I dont get your "We cannot buy with it the bread, the clothes, the various foods, to pay in restaurants", because internet is available almost everywhere...

First, if you used smartphone within your neighborhood you must know that the world is much more big than your neighborhood. There are your city, then other cities, then your country, then the continents. So the real world is much more big than your neighborhood and your neighborhood is not at all representative of all the world.

Second, if your neighborhood is so developed and has internet in all the places mentioned by me (where you buy bread, where you buy clothes, at the public WC and in every remaining place of it) I can assure you that exist at least one continent named Africa in which the people don't have internet or is verified very few spread of it even at their homes. So you must understand again that the world is not only your neighborhood.



I must admit I live in a place where internet coverage is almost 100% (its hard to find places on the coverage country map without signal), and it is easy and affordable for anybody interested to have it at home/smartphone. Hopefully it is only matter of time such infrastructure/economic becomes standard everywhere.

I told I used smartphone to pay with Bitcoin in restaurant already, would do it in other places if I noticed "Bitcoin accepted here" as well.
Meaning  even if there is technical possibility to add Bitcoin payment option, hardly anyone accept Bitcoin now.

Maybe your "we" I interpretted as me as well, so your reasoning "We cannot buy with it the bread, the clothes, the various foods, to pay in restaurants (normally and mostly) and so on" seems untrue for me.



Third, I can assure you that bitcoin is ignored from more of three quarters of all the countries of the world which don't know at all it. And some of those in which is know has banned it. See here for more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country. So how is possible to be used bitcoin in that places. I would hear your intellectual thought about this.



If I was citizen of any of the few countries where Bitcoin is banned, I would be pissed others decide for me what I can do in such innoncent matter - Bitcoin banning is basically totalitarian politician decision not respecting basic human rights.




Four, I can assure that you are lying about the possibility to use in your neighborhood bitcoin so easy and for more in so more places like you mention in your post. And you make this only to make an original post or because think (but without knowing the true why) that bitcoin is something superior compared to everything else.



Bitcoin is technically possible here, you see Credit Card terminal in most shops, meaning they use internet connection for it already, and there are incentives to use Bitcoin instead because instead of using Credit Card 3-5% fees, you can use bitpay Bitcoin 1% fee or if you dont need exchange right to fiat and want to accept Bitcoin yourselves almost 0% fee. The economical incentive is here, but the knowledge not.




Five, If you "don't get" my post it is not my problem but your problem. But you have even another more big problem (and even risky for you as a person). You  are not able to understand even the why of your "don't get" in the case when someone can tell "I don't like bitcoin only for fun". Because is out of your mind that someone have its thoughts that can be different from yours. You cannot understand that the world has this development only because of this quality had by every human being. I tell this after the reading your "don't get" about my thoughts and my argumentation. "Don't get" that I (and everyone else including you) can have the right to have my (their) thoughts and to express those giving arguments which explain the why of those thoughts. Your "don't get" argued with general words and general arguments that can be told in every kind of situation is the most devastating fact of your poor mental situation and you mentality. Undeveloped one. Which maybe have to do nothing with your "internet everywhere" and "bitcoin everywhere used" neighborhood but with your lack of desire (or maybe even inability) to learn.

Let see what pearls will born and will be explained here in this forum from your "cultivated" mind after the read of this my post. Let see how "don't get" will repeated in your reply (must be to many to be counted). Or maybe will ignore everything (this must be the most quoted behavior as for me) making one or two sentences with irony or insults. Because are unable for more. Huh

I dont understand why you are so frustrated, your first day on the internet? I believe I got much worse/trolling reply to one of my posts but I never got so frustrated to write almost a reply essay to get the frustration out.

I must agree that I am surprised abut the answer had from you. But only because normally such kind of dandy people like you normally give superficial answer to "cross the river" when I see that you not only are not such kind of person but are able even to attack. Is well known that the most good defense  is to attack. Especially this behavior is efficient when are told bullshits or lies. Accompanying this behavior with the giving of answers without telling nothing, to lie again or to make appear the other part as not in a normal condition.

Have any problem for me your reaction. Must write even more. Cannot be touched by someone who made such posts and give this kind of explanations. From someone who will solve the lack of the internet in Africa telling:If I was citizen of any of the few countries where Bitcoin is banned, I would be pissed others decide for me what I can do in such innoncent matter - Bitcoin banning is basically totalitarian politician decision not respecting basic human rights. can be waited even more than understand my post as a sign of frustration or being the first day in internet the day when I made the answer to its post. This person is so smart that cannot understand that to be "Hero Member" in bitcointalk needed much more than one day in internet and much more than an answer to its "Hall of Fame" post. So such person think that I am frustrated and in my first day in internet the day in which have made my answer to its post. Normally must stop here because everything is clear (at least for me) with whom I have to do but is funny to tease such kind of people because express always pearls in their posts. So, as a consequence I will try to make another essay to see and taste his reaction.

So, according to the brilliant, practically all Africa must know that to have internet must "be pissed others decide for them what they can do in such innocent matter - Bitcoin banning is basically totalitarian politician decision not respecting basic human rights" and within 1-2 hours everyone will have internet everywhere. Will be covered at 100% all the countries (mean all Africa) and immediately can began the use of bitcoin mined immediately after the cover 100% with internet of their area.

This can be done using the "Credit Card terminal in most shops" in other words "meaning they use internet connection for it already, and there are incentives to use Bitcoin instead because instead of using Credit Card 3-5% fees, you can use bitpay Bitcoin 1% fee or if you dont need exchange right to fiat and want to accept Bitcoin yourselves almost 0% fee. The economical incentive is here, but the knowledge not." Everything clear for everyone. Except for me. Cannot understand nothing. Maybe because I am frustrated and at my second day of internet (my days in internet are counted only when I make answer to his posts). Hope to have another full explanation about what word I have understand wrong and that not allow me (leaving apart my frustration), to not understand such easy and significant explanations.

So everything is solved doing a hard war against "totalitarian politician decision not respecting basic human rights" and don't using "Credit Card 3-5% fees" but using "bitpay Bitcoin 1% fee or if you don't need exchange right to fiat and want to accept Bitcoin yourselves almost 0% fee". Beh, there remain nothing to tell about this solution. Only savants brain can be able to invent such meaningful and farsighted (being in the same time simple in its implementation) project. To not forget to "be pissed others decide for every African".

And attention brothers of Africa if you "don't get" something. Never told or interpret such expression. Otherwise for sure you would become automatically frustrated and will have always every new day in internet as a new and first day on it. It is the power of these words who make you such. You will forget all the previous ones had in the internet bring to you by the One. This may not allow you to "be pissed" and to use "bitpay Bitcoin 1% fee or if you don't need exchange right to fiat and want to accept Bitcoin yourselves almost 0% fee". Maybe you will have other fee than "bitpay Bitcoin 1% fee" if "you don't need exchange right to fiat" and "want to accept Bitcoin yourselves almost 0% fee". What can you pretend more?

As a conclusion: Cannot wait to read the next answer of the normal, savant, non frustrated (clearly showed by what has write), not first day in internet, analytical (has given detailed argumentative answers to everything - including my mental disease expressed with the wrong understanding of his limpid words and sentences in its first post and first of all the resulution of the lack of internet and the few knowledge of bitcoin in Africa), and persecuted by the trolls, person which for sure will define me this time as insane when will read all this my new essay.

But he is strong and I am sure that will be able to withstand the above essay with another brilliant answer full of projects about the fast, and without any kind of cost, spread and implementation of internet and bitcoin not only in Africa but in every nook of the Earth where will be the need of such things and the need of its projects. Naturally always "be pissed others decide for him what he can do in such innoncent matter - Bitcoin banning is basically totalitarian politician decision not respecting basic human rights"
587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: January 01, 2016, 03:33:56 PM


There are games of skill, such as chess.  There are games of chance, such as dice.  And, there are games of skill and chance, such as poker.  What is unique about a game of skill and chance is that the strategy is modified by how skillfully one interprets, manipulates, and anticipates their opponents behavior surrounding the part of the game that is unknown. There are many professional poker players.

Totally agree with you except:

1. We are talking about gambling so there have no place for the chess in your post. Have nothing to do with gambling. If we will talk about all the possible games in existence all the thread would have only on e post: the list of games. Here we are talking only about the gambling. Gambling is totally another dangerous thing compared to the non gambling games (whatever can be) and have no meaning to put these in this kind of discussion.

I used to go to the park on a daily basis to play chess for money to get enough for my hotel room, food, and basic commodities. I was, indeed, gambling for a living playing chess.

2. You forget, when talk about gambling games, a very important characteristic (and even specific one - so only few things have this kind of characteristic) of those. The ability to create addiction. Created in almost all gamblers after gambling for a long time and/or for win (like must do the "pro"). Addiction in this kind of activity is the most dangerous one because give not only one but two bad (the worst ones) consequences. Disease (lost of health) and financial ruin. Whatever can be the gambling game create addiction if frequented for a long time and for win money. Scientifically proved and verified. The players of poker cannot go out of this scheme. But even yes, will be always a new player better than the previous one. The old player cannot accept never that the new one will be a better player than him. So will continue to play with the conviction that one day will be him the winner. In this way he will lost all the won money. Where is the pro here? Don't forget that I accepted your point of view. Thing this that is not true.

True.  Gambling can be very devastating to those with addictive personalities.  However, one of the qualities that many professional gamblers possess is a clear understanding of how to manage their bankrolls strictly.  Those who conduct themselves professionally diversify their holdings and have the presence of mind to only play against weaker opponents and the discipline to not risk a substantial percentage of their bankroll in matches against players with unknown abilities.

May exist only a few those who can go out of the above situations. Thing this that cannot be or used never as an example to justify in some way the gamble. For every kind of gamble with any kind of characteristics, specifics had or needed. Never.

You are correct. Gambling professionally is a very specialized field.  It is definitely not for everybody or anyone. It requires an education, a strict discipline, and years of experience just like any other means of employment. It isn't easy and it isn't free gaining that skill set.


Good. If you accept my third paragraph with your third interpretation you automatically contrast your first explanation. If you play chess with money you never can be used as an example that chess is a example to be taken when is talked about gambling. You are very, to, very much, much few to be able to name chess as a gamble game. If the pro gamble poker cannot be taken only one time as an example to generalize that gamble is not dangerous (because are to few), you cannot be taken hundred times as example that chess is a gamble game. Are only one.

If your example can be used as an example of gambling then all the life is gamble. Someone can bet telling that in front of it will go within 5 minutes 50 cars and bet about this. This kind of reasoning is not correct because trivializes this question.
588  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: January 01, 2016, 02:31:48 PM
House will always have the most profits, doesn't matter how much you win. In the end you will lose more than you win.
Unless you're some kind of pro gambler and now all the strategies to keep on winning.

Have you meet in your life only one of that kind of "pro gamblers"? Have you seen in your life only one of that kind of species? Or you have seen them only on the Hollywood movies. I bet that is only the second option. Because cannot be "pro" someone in something when the word "pro" have no meaning. To be "pro" mean to be professional. How can be possible to be professional in something who want only LUCK and nothing else? Except some rare games played face to face or only with your own which maybe have to do a little with some knowledge or psychology (but that have nothing to do with the being or naming the players as "pro") all the other kind of gambling at casinos or in online gambling sites want only LUCK. That doesn't mean at all that someone of them named above, independently in which of groups is classified, including here all the other possible gamblers of every kind, are immune from the lose for sure in long term. The latest named end is inevitable for everyone who gamble. For to many reasons. To name some, addiction and proud to be invincible firsts and then the satisfaction that is proven in lose money or the desire to be within a casino only to be here and to feel part of the world of gambling.

'Pro' means you do make a living by gambling. Whether it's down to luck or skills is not that relevant.

Out of curiosity, would you say that brain-surgeries cannot be classed as profession as there's always some luck factor involved, with some of procedures having only small % chances of going right.

There's also huge difference between playing 'luck' games (dice, roulette etc) and poker or sport betting.

I have the honor to have e Hero Member who give to me the needed explanations about my post.

Finally, at least one has explained what is a pro in gambling. So a pro in gambling is someone you make so much money with gambling that are enough to live him and his family and have even much more to gamble again the next night or day in order to have other money to maintain his family etc .... Every day this thing. Very hard to learn such things... But I will try. At least have a source full of arguments about the meaning of the "pro" in gambling. The above post quoted by me.

So, for one thing we can be sure: such species exist. Is argued in a undeniable way (full of facts) by the poster quoted by me. And we also know from the devastating facts given always by the poster quoted by me that the pro can be everyone independently from the source which give the name the pro as such. The luck or the skill. So not even exist the pro but exist even the pro who come from luck and the pro who come from skills. In other words we have a pro who take his luck always with himself when go at the casino to gamble and order to it, every day, to earn money in order that him deserve the name pro. Then we have the worker pro. That who order to his skills again to earn every night and day at the casino in order that him deserve the name worker pro.

Fantastic explanations. Full of arguments. Who can have the courage to think to discuss such arguments.

But nothing above can be compared with the comparison made a few down. The gambler is like the brain surgery doctor. Practically are the same person. We have a pro luck and a pro worker. Or maybe even a Big Pro who have luck and skills together (even this must be taken with to many reserves because is not mentioned at the analytical, devastating, factual, undeniable argumentation of the poster quoted by me). Then we have a doctor which have some skills and some luck and use those to make him capable to make brain surgery. Same as the Big Pro. Wow. Must be easy to be a doctor. Go some time in casino, go pro and here we are. You are a brain-surgery doctor. How many important and new things can be learned following savants here in bitcointalk. How many pearls can be learned reading their posts.

And at the end everyone must be sure that at poker and at the sport betting cannot be lose never money even if you are not pro. Because when you are pro have any kind of importance if you gamble or put money in bets. You always win. The problem are the simple people like who are not pro. But here we are the owners of the bet stations or bet points, or bet bars, or whatever bet can be who think for us. Only for us. Have you need for money. Go to one of the previous, do a bet (with not "luck" games) and will have your money. Piece of cake. Here can win everyone. Are not "luck" games. (sorry for the quotes of word "luck" - that to tell the right don't know why are used - but must respect the expression of the explainer). But are not only the above owners who care for us. But every person involved in the bet:  the players of the match, the referees, the FIFA, UEFA and all the other initiates who belong to the world of the bet world (in other words not the "luck" games). They before make e decision about the results of a match have all the needed info how ill be the result of it and then realize it. If are bets who are in opposite with each other make two matches with two different results and accept both as a formal result of that match. So everyone has their promised money from the not "luck" money (I will ask the name of those when will have the fortune to have a reply from the poster quoted by me - cannot be named simply named: not "luck" games).

I have not desire even to laugh.

There are games of skill, such as chess.  There are games of chance, such as dice.  And, there are games of skill and chance, such as poker.  What is unique about a game of skill and chance is that the strategy is modified by how skillfully one interprets, manipulates, and anticipates their opponents behavior surrounding the part of the game that is unknown. There are many professional poker players.

Totally agree with you except:

1. We are talking about gambling so there have no place for the chess in your post. Have nothing to do with gambling. If we will talk about all the possible games in existence all the thread would have only on e post: the list of games. Here we are talking only about the gambling. Gambling is totally another dangerous thing compared to the non gambling games (whatever can be) and have no meaning to put these in this kind of discussion.

2. You forget, when talk about gambling games, a very important characteristic (and even specific one - so only few things have this kind of characteristic) of those. The ability to create addiction. Created in almost all gamblers after gambling for a long time and/or for win (like must do the "pro"). Addiction in this kind of activity is the most dangerous one because give not only one but two bad (the worst ones) consequences. Disease (lost of health) and financial ruin. Whatever can be the gambling game create addiction if frequented for a long time and for win money. Scientifically proved and verified. The players of poker cannot go out of this scheme. But even yes, will be always a new player better than the previous one. The old player cannot accept never that the new one will be a better player than him. So will continue to play with the conviction that one day will be him the winner. In this way he will lost all the won money. Where is the pro here? Don't forget that I accepted your point of view. Thing this that is not true.

May exist only a few those who can go out of the above situations. Thing this that cannot be or used never as an example to justify in some way the gamble. For every kind of gamble with any kind of characteristics, specifics had or needed. Never.
589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: January 01, 2016, 11:43:10 AM
House will always have the most profits, doesn't matter how much you win. In the end you will lose more than you win.
Unless you're some kind of pro gambler and now all the strategies to keep on winning.

Have you meet in your life only one of that kind of "pro gamblers"? Have you seen in your life only one of that kind of species? Or you have seen them only on the Hollywood movies. I bet that is only the second option. Because cannot be "pro" someone in something when the word "pro" have no meaning. To be "pro" mean to be professional. How can be possible to be professional in something who want only LUCK and nothing else? Except some rare games played face to face or only with your own which maybe have to do a little with some knowledge or psychology (but that have nothing to do with the being or naming the players as "pro") all the other kind of gambling at casinos or in online gambling sites want only LUCK. That doesn't mean at all that someone of them named above, independently in which of groups is classified, including here all the other possible gamblers of every kind, are immune from the lose for sure in long term. The latest named end is inevitable for everyone who gamble. For to many reasons. To name some, addiction and proud to be invincible firsts and then the satisfaction that is proven in lose money or the desire to be within a casino only to be here and to feel part of the world of gambling.

'Pro' means you do make a living by gambling. Whether it's down to luck or skills is not that relevant.

Out of curiosity, would you say that brain-surgeries cannot be classed as profession as there's always some luck factor involved, with some of procedures having only small % chances of going right.

There's also huge difference between playing 'luck' games (dice, roulette etc) and poker or sport betting.

I have the honor to have e Hero Member who give to me the needed explanations about my post.

Finally, at least one has explained what is a pro in gambling. So a pro in gambling is someone you make so much money with gambling that are enough to live him and his family and have even much more to gamble again the next night or day in order to have other money to maintain his family etc .... Every day this thing. Very hard to learn such things... But I will try. At least have a source full of arguments about the meaning of the "pro" in gambling. The above post quoted by me.

So, for one thing we can be sure: such species exist. Is argued in a undeniable way (full of facts) by the poster quoted by me. And we also know from the devastating facts given always by the poster quoted by me that the pro can be everyone independently from the source which give the name the pro as such. The luck or the skill. So not even exist the pro but exist even the pro who come from luck and the pro who come from skills. In other words we have a pro who take his luck always with himself when go at the casino to gamble and order to it, every day, to earn money in order that him deserve the name pro. Then we have the worker pro. That who order to his skills again to earn every night and day at the casino in order that him deserve the name worker pro.

Fantastic explanations. Full of arguments. Who can have the courage to think to discuss such arguments.

But nothing above can be compared with the comparison made a few down. The gambler is like the brain surgery doctor. Practically are the same person. We have a pro luck and a pro worker. Or maybe even a Big Pro who have luck and skills together (even this must be taken with to many reserves because is not mentioned at the analytical, devastating, factual, undeniable argumentation of the poster quoted by me). Then we have a doctor which have some skills and some luck and use those to make him capable to make brain surgery. Same as the Big Pro. Wow. Must be easy to be a doctor. Go some time in casino, go pro and here we are. You are a brain-surgery doctor. How many important and new things can be learned following savants here in bitcointalk. How many pearls can be learned reading their posts.

And at the end everyone must be sure that at poker and at the sport betting cannot be lose never money even if you are not pro. Because when you are pro have any kind of importance if you gamble or put money in bets. You always win. The problem are the simple people like who are not pro. But here we are the owners of the bet stations or bet points, or bet bars, or whatever bet can be who think for us. Only for us. Have you need for money. Go to one of the previous, do a bet (with not "luck" games) and will have your money. Piece of cake. Here can win everyone. Are not "luck" games. (sorry for the quotes of word "luck" - that to tell the right don't know why are used - but must respect the expression of the explainer). But are not only the above owners who care for us. But every person involved in the bet:  the players of the match, the referees, the FIFA, UEFA and all the other initiates who belong to the world of the bet world (in other words not the "luck" games). They before make e decision about the results of a match have all the needed info how ill be the result of it and then realize it. If are bets who are in opposite with each other make two matches with two different results and accept both as a formal result of that match. So everyone has their promised money from the not "luck" money (I will ask the name of those when will have the fortune to have a reply from the poster quoted by me - cannot be named simply named: not "luck" games).

I have not desire even to laugh.
590  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you actively spend your bitcoins? on: January 01, 2016, 10:52:57 AM
I was active enough to spend a bitcoin every week, to hang out with friends and shopping necessity.

Please share the source of the have of to many bitcoins in your hands (wallets). Can make even us others whales in bitcoin. Your post mean the spend of about 1800 us dollar in a month for things of second hands. It is not much the problem of the money because you can have to many but the spend of bitcoin. What is the why of this behavior? Everyone of us wait and hope big increase of its price and spend it in this way mean that you own to many and don't care to spend 4 of those every month. Or is simply to spend something different from the others...
591  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [POLL] Do you prefer your money to be in cash or bitcoins? on: January 01, 2016, 10:38:22 AM
I would prefer my money to be in cash.I have invested some money in Bitcoin as well and some part in precious metal to have all the options available in any case of unexpected situation.I suggest to be a balance among your savings.

So you prefer to have cash and then have some money converted in bitcoin and even some others in precious metals (not one - gold or silver or another by some). How is this? You prefer to have cash and have in reality the most possible diversification of the money that someone could have? I cannot understand. Why you have bitcoin or precious metals if you prefer to have cash? It is correct such question or am I who am unable to understand right what you have write in your post?
592  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin is legal or illegal? on: January 01, 2016, 10:10:48 AM
Let's take the discussion here. I would like to ask you some questions, namely:
1. What is bitcoin is legal or illegal?
2. What are the shortcomings of bitcoin?
3. According to you whether bitcoin transaction can be said to be "safe"?

I can answer to your first question. Bitcoin is illegal (if named in this way publicly) when is banned by the Authorities of a given country. Bitcoin is legal when is fully or partially regulated by the responsible Authorities in a given country and is named as legal or with other names which give it the right to be used in some way (whatever can be) within the given country. Bitcoin has any kind of status (normally this situation can be called as ignored) in the given country when the Authorities have any kind of attention about it. In other words simply ignoring it and what is made with it from its users.
593  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should i buy my first whole bitcoin on: January 01, 2016, 10:03:14 AM
Should i buy my first whole bitcoin ?

I just want opinions, would you buy a whole bitcoin ?

If I had the money much much more than one. Maybe hundred. I have not the money and yet i am buying it. Few and few every day or night I find the possibility (have the money to do this. Will continue this way even for much more time (whatever will be the price). You are a sure winner if you buy it. Don't think to much because every day gone may be a late one regarding everything has to do with it.
594  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: decentralization solutions on: December 31, 2015, 10:13:54 PM
What legit solutions are on the table to decentralize mining?

You join a pool because the probability of you personally solving a block is astronomically small? You trust a pool to give you a share because so many other people are trusting the same pool. The pool tracks your work and pays you accordingly.

Can we achieve the same result with tweaked model rather than current pools.

For example, a group miners individually using the best possible mining software, where everyone agrees to pay solved blocks to the group. Then we use smart contracts and proof of work mechanisms to enforce this relationship?

Is this possible? If not, what are the legit solutions to this decentralization problem?


I am not an expert (and so my post and my thoughts cannot be taken as a professional ones) but I don't any difference between the two models. Or at least essentially. The new one proposed is another pool when has not an owner but many such and have no fee like the classic pool. All the other things are the same (at last essentially). If this can be called decentralization we can have the same result if can be created new pools which will steal miners to the others "old" pools using incentives or various bonuses. And we will be at the same situation.
595  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Where did Coinbase get my email address from? on: December 31, 2015, 10:03:50 PM
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Please read the Privacy Policy carefully and save this email for future reference.
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Thank you for using Coinbase!

To be clear, I've never signed up on Coinbase's platform.

"Privacy Policy" looks like a like in the email but doesn't direct to any site.

It is very easy to understand. This email is not from Coinbase. Coinbase is a serious business and don't do any illegal behavior. have no need to do so. That email it is a spam or a phishing one. Who knows what was their aim in sending this kind of email. To many time are sent emails like this with or without links  which are not emails come from the sender which is named. Most of them are not well made because there must be some error in the conception of those or something were going wrong in their "project". But not few times these are perfect. I had several times such kind of emails which have copied perfectly the email of important sites (I will name only two: Payza and EgoPay (when was live)). One time I had even put my data but immediately after the put of those had a doubt and changed immediately the data given. After 1 or 2 hours that my account was blocked and when I asked the reason the answer was that my account was subject of an attempt to be hacked. It was my Payza account.
596  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are you doing New Year's Eve play bitcoin? or give bitcoin ... or a family on: December 31, 2015, 06:10:41 PM
I hope you gather family

Play with bitcoin never. It is very precious for me to do such things with it. Even it is an humiliation for such kind of invention to use it to play. To not speak for those who use it to gamble. It is not even the option to give it. Why must do this? I have those from my savings and taking money from the money of my family (without touch their needs but only reducing their pleasures). Or from investments which cost me money (to test every of those) or time to find always new ones. So again is to precious to be given. Remain the family. But even bitcoin with the family. Probably tomorrow morning will buy something from it. First thing in the morning.  Wink
597  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Let's use mBTC instead of BTC on: December 31, 2015, 04:12:07 PM
I don't know about you guys, but more and more often I find myself dealing with numbers like 0.004 BTC, 0.05 BTC, etc. in everyday transactions. I hate decimals and I think most of you are in the same boat as me. Our brain works much better with whole numbers. Given that 1 mBTC is in the same order of magnitude as 1 USD, why don't we start measuring our transactions in mBTC?

Wrong approach according to me. That does not mean that I am right and the OP has wrong. That mean only that my brain don't work like the brain of OP. My brain need more than 5 hours to understand the real value in bitcoin if it is shown 10 mbtc or 3.5 cmbtc (if exist this measure). While absorb immediately every amount told or write in btc. Not only this. But understand almost immediately even the value of these figures in fiat (mainly us dollar). So I vote for the btc and not for the its subdivisions.  Wink
598  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: December 31, 2015, 04:05:08 PM
It's worth the same as any type of fiat.

I use it like real money and this means i care about bitcoin, since it enables me to use it for any online purchases.
No. Bitcoin is actually different than FIAT! People tends to forgot about real value of Bitcoin - blockchain. That is why bitcoin is so good and have intrinsic value - unlike FIATs.
Blockchain is one of the most unique ledger in the world, you can store all sort of information there, and it will be there as long as even 1 copy of blockchain will remain.

That feature alone gives bitcoin real value.


Agree completely with this post. But I would like to add (specify) something else. Bitcoin has value mainly (which is one step before the argumentation made in the above post but that in reality are the same thing) because, like blockchain, is a product of peer to peer technology. This make him (as the first materialized product of this disruptive technology) unique on its being and the first of a new race which will be developed based on the above mentioned technology. It is a new world and will have big impact every day more in to many field of our life.
599  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is the global currency of Earth on: December 30, 2015, 04:52:13 PM
Bitcoin can be used only in internet (at least actually). The market in internet (even is in fast increase) is yet very few compared with the real market (the market in the real world). So the everyday needs that everyone has must be fulfilled, let say, at least 80% (are more) only with fiat money. Even bitcoin is known by me and you we cannot use it out of internet. We cannot buy with it the bread, the clothes, the various foods, to pay in restaurants (normally and mostly) and so on.


I used smarthone to pay with Bitcoin in restaurant already, would do it in other places if I noticed "Bitcoin accepted here" as well. So I dont get your "We cannot buy with it the bread, the clothes, the various foods, to pay in restaurants", because internet is available almost everywhere...

First, if you used smartphone within your neighborhood you must know that the world is much more big than your neighborhood. There are your city, then other cities, then your country, then the continents. So the real world is much more big than your neighborhood and your neighborhood is not at all representative of all the world.

Second, if your neighborhood is so developed and has internet in all the places mentioned by me (where you buy bread, where you buy clothes, at the public WC and in every remaining place of it) I can assure you that exist at least one continent named Africa in which the people don't have internet or is verified very few spread of it even at their homes. So you must understand again that the world is not only your neighborhood.

Third, I can assure you that bitcoin is ignored from more of three quarters of all the countries of the world which don't know at all it. And some of those in which is know has banned it. See here for more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_bitcoin_by_country. So how is possible to be used bitcoin in that places. I would hear your intellectual thought about this.

Four, I can assure that you are lying about the possibility to use in your neighborhood bitcoin so easy and for more in so more places like you mention in your post. And you make this only to make an original post or because think (but without knowing the true why) that bitcoin is something superior compared to everything else.

Five, If you "don't get" my post it is not my problem but your problem. But you have even another more big problem (and even risky for you as a person). You  are not able to understand even the why of your "don't get" in the case when someone can tell "I don't like bitcoin only for fun". Because is out of your mind that someone have its thoughts that can be different from yours. You cannot understand that the world has this development only because of this quality had by every human being. I tell this after the reading your "don't get" about my thoughts and my argumentation. "Don't get" that I (and everyone else including you) can have the right to have my (their) thoughts and to express those giving arguments which explain the why of those thoughts. Your "don't get" argued with general words and general arguments that can be told in every kind of situation is the most devastating fact of your poor mental situation and you mentality. Undeveloped one. Which maybe have to do nothing with your "internet everywhere" and "bitcoin everywhere used" neighborhood but with your lack of desire (or maybe even inability) to learn.

Let see what pearls will born and will be explained here in this forum from your "cultivated" mind after the read of this my post. Let see how "don't get" will repeated in your reply (must be to many to be counted). Or maybe will ignore everything (this must be the most quoted behavior as for me) making one or two sentences with irony or insults. Because are unable for more. Huh
600  Economy / Economics / Re: POP QUIZ: Do you believe that BTC is the world's future money system? on: December 30, 2015, 04:15:39 PM
I said YES. Of course it may take some time, actually it may take 20 years or even more but Bitcoin will be the world's money system in the future.

Can I make some questions to you? I have my answers for every question I will do but I would to know the thoughts that the others have about those. So how imagine you will be a world without the normal money and only with bitcoin (if this is the meaning of your post). If bitcoin will be for sure the world's future money system and there will not exist other kind of money how will be able you to buy out of internet? How will covered all the need of every country which will be always in increase and the bitcoin is limited in amount? Do you think that bitcoin is able to cover all the needs of all the countries of the world for money? Why all this replacement of all the money with bitcoin will last 20 years or more and not less? naturally you have the right to not answer at no one of my questions. But if will do, thanks.
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