Market frozen pending PoD, all open orders have been cancelled.
- Dev does not get POD? Refund = 10k.
- Dev does get POD? Price rises in time = 10k will hit for sure.
Why did you guys sell at 2k? Fckng retarded if you ask me. Is this real? when will we get pod. it may go up but how long though. Ages probably i doubt it, we will get in hours. i read that bittrex said the coin is not a scam but their idea will not work. if they think the idea will not work coins should be refunded. it can be taken as misleading investment. i could make a idea take the money and say no it will not work Where exactly did they say that? Just curious lol. |
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Market frozen pending PoD, all open orders have been cancelled.
- Dev does not get POD? Refund = 10k.
- Dev does get POD? Price rises in time = 10k will hit for sure.
Why did you guys sell at 2k? Fckng retarded if you ask me. Is this real? when will we get pod. it may go up but how long though. Ages probably |
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I'm curious who're the people holding those 10+ btc piles of Cluster
People much smarter than you or I. I don't believe that the person who bought 42BTC worth of cluster in the Ico (all in one go) would be content to see his 42 BTC turn into 24BTC. There is NO way he would take that loss with his $20,000. People are playing longer games than most, and I think we will see something happen. Volume has only been 100 BTC since launch, probably only the same 20% of coins are being sold and moved. That leaves 80% of coins held or 280BTC at Ico prices. Syscoin eventually returned to ICO prices, and I believe this coin will too. Regarding the dev, he is not getting involved in games of trading and price fud wars. Whether that incriminates him, or makes him just a developer not a speculator, both options mean that there is no short term confidence in a price rebound. Essex: all I can say to you is that if you care about a negative reputation for your coin, irregardless of whether you want to get involved in fud wars, people need to feel like you aren't just fulfilling terms of the Ico to run off with the 350BTC. Syscoin developers had an enormous involvement in the community when fud got bad, and they turned that around so everyone is positive about the coin. Remember. People who bought the ICO were investors in your company/product. Investors ALWAYS need reassurance  120,000 USD can change a man, so if you DO plan on cashing in, I can understand lol. |
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ICO is shit, i am right? If Not please explain why?
It's not shit because that's the bottom. Everyone bought in got in the lowest it'll be. This coin is so great that it can only go up. Well.. ICO can be the floor.. But what about panic sellers? Sys had a whole bunch of people who panic sold below the ICO price.. |
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so since people are mad [i also used to be] can devs finally use funds to raise the price?!
I think they still ahven't received any.. They're waiting on Moolah to give the Ok to give like 200BTCs.. Doubt they'll raise the price now. Free markets do as they wish. |
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Syscoin is entirely independent from Moolah. They are our valued partner and we are working with them closely but we are autonomous. Wanted to clarify this point as some people were saying Moolah had taken over Syscoin- this is not the case. We are discussing long term partnerships with them involving and related to the presale BTC and will issue a statement once complete. Syscoin is going to be successful and we're both committed to seeing that through.
Notice: In the interest of current and future investors, we will be locking this thread in the next day or two and moving to a new thread with more clear information about Syscoin, its roadmap, team, how to get help, etc. This thread has just gotten too long. This will remain open for now until we have the new thread ready. We will backlink this thread from the new one for transparency. Thanks.
Now that stuff is up and running right we want to have a clean thread.
Cheers Dev. This thread is WAY overdue to be nuked lol. I'm looking forward to the new thread with clear goals, faq etc |
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What was IPO price? 500 sats good buy?
465 and 518. So current price is totally great to jump in. |
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Hilarious how all of the people screaming for a refund and the dev's blood have vanished lol. Must have been my good arguing techniques. Anyway.. Great job devs and Moolah. This coin/platform is gonna be HUGE.
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So where is the 1% Premine Address?
when i invested. i didnt read anything about premine. 1500btc and still 1% premine. oh boy Read the OP. |
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Syscoin offer a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah).
Oops. Top job moolah.
Now moolah claims there was hidden terms and conditions claiming they were allowed to fail and then slowly fix it. Moolah/slex pure scum.
This should no longer be discussed. We want the escrow back NOW. Moolah, if you want to save your reputation, DO IT NOW. I agree that selling below ICO prices is pointless. Moolah promiset that we will be refunded for this failure - let's watch them if they stick to their word. If you sell now, under the ICO price, you won't get your money back. Just wait few hours - I hope that Moolah will announce terms of escrow return ASAP, becuse devs seem to ignore this matter and instead they are just tweaking the code, which is pointless when you have hundreds of mad people with rakes by your doors. They agreed to a refund IN THE EVENT OF A FAILURE. See my previous post. Check out their twitter https://twitter.com/moolah_io |
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So moolah offers escrow on the terms of a fully functional product. Products werent met. Now we arent being given back our btc... am I missing something here. Did the terms and conditions outline a time? Yes.. the launch date. It failed. Moolah I know its alot of work, but your not sticking to your words here. You have failed us. Syscoin is dead forever, no coin will survive after screwing over every investor.
Our agreement with Syscoin included a launch window to allow the developers the opportunity to fix any issues that popped up. We are still within that window, and the developers are actively working to resolve those issues. We have stated repeatedly that we will process refunds if the developers fail to deliver a working product, what we are not going to do however, is jump the gun and do that while attempts to resolve are in process. For the sake of full clarity, we are hereby giving the Syscoin team 48 hours as of 1800 GMT this evening; to deliver a stable and working product. If at 1800 GMT on August 20th, the coin is still in a completely non-usable state (multiple forks, wallet corruption, service issues, mining issues, etc) and no progress has been made; we will begin the process of fully refunding coin holders at ICO rates. If good progress has been made (and only lesser issues remain), we will readdress this issue. If the coin is fully resolved? Great, escrow released. I will be communicating this to the Syscoin team momentarily. Here. |
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Syscoin offer a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah).
Oops. Top job moolah.
Now moolah claims there was hidden terms and conditions claiming they were allowed to fail and then slowly fix it. Moolah/slex pure scum.
Give us our BTC back!
The terms of ICO were not met!
This is beyond discussion.
Coin failed to launch properly. I agree, none of us agreed on 48 h deadline.
We deserve our money back. Don't be greedy!
This, no one talked about a 4 day deadline when the ICO was sold. You never agreed to any deadline. Only a full refund if not working product was deilvered as deemed by escrow Moolah. Read between the lines you idiots. Just hold your god-damn bags, nut up and sell when it goes back to ICO price. Stop whinging. You're right, a non working product has been launched. See bolded. |
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This is just silly.
There was ICO agreement - terms of this agreement were not met, the BTC should be refunded.
You can't change the rules later in the game.
I as an investor didn't agree on any 48 hours deadline.
Syscoin launched incorrectly, I want my money back.
This is not something that we should discuss - that was the agreement. They released not fully functional product.
MOOLAH, stick to your word, give us our mony back!
Devs, sitting on those BTC won't help you. You are not acting to fix your main issue - lack of trust in the community.
Give people they BTC back and only then you might be able to recover.
Utter failure + deleting posts. WTF?
Show me. In writing. Where it says. All that crap you're claiming. Where are the god damn written contracts that claim full refund if your are dissatisfied? Where? Can't find it? It's cause you, and others made it up in your heads. You sheeple TOLD each other that it was the agreement, not actually what the agreement was set down by Moolah. Show me the WRITTEN PROOF of your assertions. See the OP Q: What's the difference between Sys and Ether? A: Syscoin is based on well known, peer reviewed codebases (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Namecoin) that have been combined and extended. Ethereum is an attempted rewrite of this in a sense to try and deliver a turing-complete smart contract solution. This is not the same as Syscoin. Additionally: Sooner delivery of it's presale; Syscoin was delivered on August 16, 2014. The amount of ether that will be mined every year is dependent on how many they sell during their presale. The more they sell the more that will be mined the year of release, giving a bigger dilution to the already mined/bought coins. After Ether presale closes you have to wait till at least December/January to see anything; if at all. Syscoin offered a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah). The Ethereum team is allowed to use up to 5000btc before anything is even done properly or working and if it is a complete failure not a single refund was offered and no escrow option. In what time period? How long was specified by devs and Moolah? It wasn't. if the 5 featuredid not work. lol man. you cant read? do you think that we would wait one more month to get 5 features working? My point is, you never agreed for it NOT to be 1 month to get 5 featuers working. Moolah will NEVER refund you now. Realise this and move on. |
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Syscoin offer a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah).
Oops. Top job moolah.
Now moolah claims there was hidden terms and conditions claiming they were allowed to fail and then slowly fix it. Moolah/slex pure scum.
Give us our BTC back!
The terms of ICO were not met!
This is beyond discussion.
Coin failed to launch properly. I agree, none of us agreed on 48 h deadline.
We deserve our money back. Don't be greedy!
This, no one talked about a 4 day deadline when the ICO was sold. You never agreed to any deadline. Only a full refund if not working product was deilvered as deemed by escrow Moolah. Read between the lines you idiots. Just hold your god-damn bags, nut up and sell when it goes back to ICO price. Stop whinging. |
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This is just silly.
There was ICO agreement - terms of this agreement were not met, the BTC should be refunded.
You can't change the rules later in the game.
I as an investor didn't agree on any 48 hours deadline.
Syscoin launched incorrectly, I want my money back.
This is not something that we should discuss - that was the agreement. They released not fully functional product.
MOOLAH, stick to your word, give us our mony back!
Devs, sitting on those BTC won't help you. You are not acting to fix your main issue - lack of trust in the community.
Give people they BTC back and only then you might be able to recover.
Utter failure + deleting posts. WTF?
Show me. In writing. Where it says. All that crap you're claiming. Where are the god damn written contracts that claim full refund if your are dissatisfied? Where? Can't find it? It's cause you, and others made it up in your heads. You sheeple TOLD each other that it was the agreement, not actually what the agreement was set down by Moolah. Show me the WRITTEN PROOF of your assertions. See the OP Q: What's the difference between Sys and Ether? A: Syscoin is based on well known, peer reviewed codebases (Bitcoin, Litecoin, Namecoin) that have been combined and extended. Ethereum is an attempted rewrite of this in a sense to try and deliver a turing-complete smart contract solution. This is not the same as Syscoin. Additionally: Sooner delivery of it's presale; Syscoin was delivered on August 16, 2014. The amount of ether that will be mined every year is dependent on how many they sell during their presale. The more they sell the more that will be mined the year of release, giving a bigger dilution to the already mined/bought coins. After Ether presale closes you have to wait till at least December/January to see anything; if at all. Syscoin offered a 100% refund on failure to deliver of it's promised 5 core-features (escrow thru Moolah). The Ethereum team is allowed to use up to 5000btc before anything is even done properly or working and if it is a complete failure not a single refund was offered and no escrow option. In what time period? How long was specified by devs and Moolah? It wasn't. |
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This is just silly.
There was ICO agreement - terms of this agreement were not met, the BTC should be refunded.
You can't change the rules later in the game.
I as an investor didn't agree on any 48 hours deadline.
Syscoin launched incorrectly, I want my money back.
This is not something that we should discuss - that was the agreement. They released not fully functional product.
MOOLAH, stick to your word, give us our mony back!
Devs, sitting on those BTC won't help you. You are not acting to fix your main issue - lack of trust in the community.
Give people they BTC back and only then you might be able to recover.
Utter failure + deleting posts. WTF?
Show me. In writing. Where it says. All that crap you're claiming. Where are the god damn written contracts that claim full refund if your are dissatisfied? Where? Can't find it? It's cause you, and others made it up in your heads. You sheeple TOLD each other that it was the agreement, not actually what the agreement was set down by Moolah. Show me the WRITTEN PROOF of your assertions. it was on moolah's page dumbass. they deleted it. it said escrow refund is only possible if the listed 3 features are notdelivered working. something like that. the wallet is a total wreck. and moolah said they will refund. so shut up. sorry that you bought at 800 satoshi. lol And was there a time limit specified? Was that AT LAUNCH those features had to be specified. If i contacted my attorney and presented THAT CONTRACT he would say, it was never specified in full, ergo. you signed a contract open to interpretation by the ICO seller. Still, no one can show me proof of any of their refund assertions beyond the 48 3 feature limit. I bought at 700, sold at 810. Bought at 600 sold at 650. Bought at 400 sold at 470. Who's the idiot. |
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This is just silly.
There was ICO agreement - terms of this agreement were not met, the BTC should be refunded.
You can't change the rules later in the game.
I as an investor didn't agree on any 48 hours deadline.
Syscoin launched incorrectly, I want my money back.
This is not something that we should discuss - that was the agreement. They released not fully functional product.
MOOLAH, stick to your word, give us our mony back!
Devs, sitting on those BTC won't help you. You are not acting to fix your main issue - lack of trust in the community.
Give people they BTC back and only then you might be able to recover.
Utter failure + deleting posts. WTF?
Show me. In writing. Where it says. All that crap you're claiming. Where are the god damn written contracts that claim full refund if your are dissatisfied? Where? Can't find it? It's cause you, and others made it up in your heads. You sheeple TOLD each other that it was the agreement, not actually what the agreement was set down by Moolah. Show me the WRITTEN PROOF of your assertions. |
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Let me make a short summary out of this.
1) We had faith in this coin as a moneymaker
2) We invested in this because this was a sure bet we either get satoshi rich or we get back the money
3) Somebody put some damn walls so we can sell and retrieve the investment
4) It seems we bet on the wrong horse now but we still want our money back
You were right , that is no FUD , it's a child crying after he lost his marbles.
Agreed. I see absolutely no reason to give a refund. No other crypto refunds and they have been KNOWN SCAMS. This coin is not a scam, the ICO was final. Deal with it and start spreading good vibes about SYS. Cause there ai'nt no other way you're getting back an ROI otherwise. Ok another of moronic posts on this thread. 1. show me an ICO of these KNOWN SCAMS which reached 1500 BTC? Answer is none. So the amount at stake is huge. 2. Trust in the ICO was based on moolah' rep and devs promise of a refund if working product is not delivered. That's is why it sold 1500 BTC. Go check another ICOs running right now. Some barely make past 10-20 BTC. Ones hosted on C-CEX/BITTREX etc are touching 100 BTC with effort. Now there are bound to be comparison with CRYPTI which raised 750 BTC too. But, the price of IPO was super cheap and ICO investors could dump their coins without loss if they were not agreeable to the term of delay. SYSCOIN had a pricey IPO and then delayed their launch. People buying are stuck and saying shit like NO REFUND or THERE ARE OTHER KNOWN SCAMS is not going to help anyone. Just refund or put a buy wall and let people exit. I'll address your points. 1. I'm talking about crypto in general. Refunds are just not part of the landscape. You buy, you take the risk. I know of no other ICO close to as large as SYS. 2. Again, the trust in Moolah should be taken as is. He promised to buy back if nothing was delivered to his terms. Read the fineprint HIS terms. Not yours, not mine, HIS. He set the deadline and what counted as an acceptable level of wallet status. It will reach that and the ICO will be released. People may have mis-interpreted Moolah to mean, if you're not 100% happy with your purchase at any time in the future irregardless of what happens, he will buyback your portion of the ICO. He never claimed such a thing. B uy walls, refunds, they all mean that people can exit without being responsible FOR THEIR OWN RISK. Moolah and Sys devs are not beholden to anyone who makes a claim after they signed the agreement of the ICO. The price WILL go down. People are angry. Devs made a fumble. But again, the risk was the shareholder's to bear. I for one am holding my coins as I believe this coin will last. |
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Let me make a short summary out of this.
1) We had faith in this coin as a moneymaker
2) We invested in this because this was a sure bet we either get satoshi rich or we get back the money
3) Somebody put some damn walls so we can sell and retrieve the investment
4) It seems we bet on the wrong horse now but we still want our money back
You were right , that is no FUD , it's a child crying after he lost his marbles.
Agreed. I see absolutely no reason to give a refund. No other crypto refunds and they have been KNOWN SCAMS. This coin is not a scam, the ICO was final. Deal with it and start spreading good vibes about SYS. Cause there ai'nt no other way you're getting back an ROI otherwise. But moolah is escrow and said if the coin doesn't deliver & function well, they will refund investors, so your point are wrong. PPL trust Moolah and Mintpal, so they dare invest this coin I see no reason why now, people should be asking for a refund. They're gonna meet the deadline and pass muster. The wallet works. The network works. People got what they paid for. No promises of hiccup free launch. People should take responsibility for their own buying decisions on an unknown currency |
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