[ANN] Syscoin - Business on the Blockchain - LAUNCHED!

[q327K091]

for the sake of not losing coins/time/power (also maybe it helps dev in resolving and moving forward with tech, as they should lots of effort was put into it can tell...)

have 715.1309263 SYS UNCONFIRMED

and stuck on block # 1663

last debug.log error messages says (below)

would love to continue and I have never ever lost a single coin before, got off pool immediate for now

anyone anyone ? thanks much.. it is a principle to me that matters...

2014-08-18 14:59:53 received block 181b345cc91a946d0fb1c10a3d2d82bfd76ddb43b082f8071da6c53904d6a2f9
2014-08-18 14:59:53 GetBlockvalue of Block 1664: subsidy=12800000000, fees=0, aliasSubsidy=10804512846, offerSubsidy=131343283, certSubidy=3720930, sum=12800000000.
2014-08-18 14:59:53 ERROR: ConnectBlock() : coinbase pays too much for 1664 (actual=23739577059 vs limit=12800000000)
2014-08-18 14:59:53 InvalidChainFound: invalid block=181b345cc91a946d0fb1c10a3d2d82bfd76ddb43b082f8071da6c53904d6a2f9  height=1664  log2_work=48.534054  date=2014-08-18 02:59:54
2014-08-18 14:59:53 InvalidChainFound:  current best=359357a122cf49881d2b3fb37e1edcb8224c99ca4a221d1d7678b1f46ebff2e5  height=1663  log2_work=48.534017  date=2014-08-18 02:58:16
2014-08-18 14:59:53 InvalidChainFound: invalid block=181b345cc91a946d0fb1c10a3d2d82bfd76ddb43b082f8071da6c53904d6a2f9  height=1664  log2_work=48.534054  date=2014-08-18 02:59:54
2014-08-18 14:59:53 InvalidChainFound:  current best=359357a122cf49881d2b3fb37e1edcb8224c99ca4a221d1d7678b1f46ebff2e5  height=1663  log2_work=48.534017  date=2014-08-18 02:58:16
2014-08-18 14:59:53 ERROR: SetBestBlock() : ConnectBlock 181b345cc91a946d0fb1c10a3d2d82bfd76ddb43b082f8071da6c53904d6a2f9 failed
2014-08-18 14:59:53 ERROR: AcceptBlock() : AddToBlockIndex failed
2014-08-18 14:59:53 ERROR: ProcessBlock() : AcceptBlock FAILED

Have you updated to latest wallet? See OP

Dear developer started fresh,

brand new

Mac wallet:

OSX 10.7+ - https://mega.co.nz/#!3Z0FEJJR!HhBJXFYgRlnAsLFA_iG-FQ4rf2HKtdpI9IbRmsdjlYw

deleted Syscoin folder (including wallet, have a backup of course) everything

no block source available, notice syscoin.conf is not part of MAC wallet distribution

please advice, thank you so much

[kencoles]

Update 8/19:


The fork yesterday was not well coordinated. Some pools updated late and we now have multiple forks. We will be doing another fork to get everyone on the correct chain by adding checkpoint blocks, and adding wallet version checks to make sure those who do not upgrade are not connected to. We are contacting pools and exchanges to prepare for this now. We are also going to try and address the "wallet relaunch and hang" issue in this update.

We will fork within 12hrs - talking to pools/exchanges now.

IF YOU ARE MINING PLEASE STOP. DO NOT SEND ANY SYSCOIN AS YOU MAY BE ON THE WRONG FORK SEND AT YOUR OWN RISK. YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEND AFTER THE NEXT UPDATE.[/list]

Danosphere thanks a lot for the hard work ,Can you please make a website like eBay where I can sell all my softwares in exchange of syscoin.I dont know how to sell my softwares through your wallet's market place.

Thank you

Coles

[suchnekky]

So moolah offers escrow on the terms of a fully functional product. Products werent met. Now we arent being given back our btc... am I missing something here. Did the terms and conditions outline a time? Yes.. the launch date. It failed. Moolah I know its alot of work, but your not sticking to your words here. You have failed us. Syscoin is dead forever, no coin will survive after screwing over every investor.

[iDUMP]

That's what I'm worried about as well, have some SYS in limbo to Mintpal that I sent about 4 hours ago...

We are working to make sure we get on the best chain. We are coordinating with pools and Mintpal/Bittrex to make sure we choose the best chain / cause the least possible damage.

A fork in 12 hours. Mother of god. Longest downtiem ever

We forked too quickly yesterday and look what happened. This should give people plenty of time to stop mining, and do whatever it is they need to do to prepare to update.

Choose the best chain with least possible damage? Seriously? Means somebody's coin might be lost forever and not compensated?

If the coins I sent yesterday end up being lost in the crypto nether, i'll be very sad.
DEV, surely you have a plan to remedy this....right ?

[Artimunor]

any news about the mining?
does it work? not work?

[mackbells]

Also--just a suggestion to the devs--not everyone here is computer savvy or wallet savvy.  Your wallets should work directly out of the box, if you want to appeal to a large audience.  If people have to 'tinker' with them in any way, they will scatter.  Please make these wallets a little more user friendly.

+1

[cryptzo]

That's what I'm worried about as well, have some SYS in limbo to Mintpal that I sent about 4 hours ago...

We are working to make sure we get on the best chain. We are coordinating with pools and Mintpal/Bittrex to make sure we choose the best chain / cause the least possible damage.

A fork in 12 hours. Mother of god. Longest downtiem ever

We forked too quickly yesterday and look what happened. This should give people plenty of time to stop mining, and do whatever it is they need to do to prepare to update.

Choose the best chain with least possible damage? Seriously? Means somebody's coin might be lost forever and not compensated?

If the coins I sent yesterday end up being lost in the crypto nether, i'll be very sad.
DEV, surely you have a plan to remedy this....right ?

I can't speak for the devs, but I can say that if they were just lost due to these forking issues, you can get them back. I'll write a step by step how to for everyone once all this gets sorted, if it will help.

[teamlottowin]

when will the hats shipp out, cause I have been standing in this sun for a very long time and am starting to feel just a little dizzy now.

[musicmaker613]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like a lot of people are worried about losing coins due to the fork, when really, isn't there a pretty low threat of that at this point?

The only coins that could be lost are ones generated (mined) AFTER the fork and on the wrong blockchain.  I'm pretty sure the exchanges froze deposits before the fork (I know Mintpal did anyway).  And most pools have been down since the fork also.  Unless you directly bought SYS from someone who mined them after the fork, you should have coins generated on the proper blockchain.  And coins generated on the proper blockchain that may have been sent to a wallet on the wrong fork, would likely revert back to the last address on the proper fork upon blockchain rescan.  So in short, the only way to get screwed is if you exchanged BTC (or something else) for SYS generated on the wrong fork.

This seems unlikely due to deposits to exchanges being down since before the fork.  But I'm definitely no expert on blockchains.  If I'm way off here, please, someone enlighten me.

[q327K091]

any news about the mining?
does it work? not work?

it is veeeeerry dangerous to mine right now all these multi thousands dollars Titans.. its ok for em, cause few minutes and 10's of thousands  

[nomoreheroes7]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like a lot of people are worried about losing coins due to the fork, when really, isn't there a pretty low threat of that at this point?

The only coins that could be lost are ones generated (mined) AFTER the fork and on the wrong blockchain.  I'm pretty sure the exchanges froze deposits before the fork (I know Mintpal did anyway).  And most pools have been down since the fork also.  Unless you directly bought SYS from someone who mined them after the fork, you should have coins generated on the proper blockchain.  And coins generated on the proper blockchain that may have been sent to a wallet on the wrong fork, would likely revert back to the last address on the proper fork upon blockchain rescan.  So in short, the only way to get screwed is if you exchanged BTC (or something else) for SYS generated on the wrong fork.

This seems unlikely due to deposits to exchanges being down since before the fork.  But I'm definitely no expert on blockchains.  If I'm way off here, please, someone enlighten me.

If this is true, it is really good to know. Thanks!

[snipsnoop]

Honestly guys.. This is crypto, forks happens, we are not happy about but are doing this to get a strong and solid network.
Solid working blockschain is our number one priority

[slex]

So moolah offers escrow on the terms of a fully functional product. Products werent met. Now we arent being given back our btc... am I missing something here. Did the terms and conditions outline a time? Yes.. the launch date. It failed. Moolah I know its alot of work, but your not sticking to your words here. You have failed us. Syscoin is dead forever, no coin will survive after screwing over every investor.

Our agreement with Syscoin included a launch window to allow the developers the opportunity to fix any issues that popped up. We are still within that window, and the developers are actively working to resolve those issues. We have stated repeatedly that we will process refunds if the developers fail to deliver a working product, what we are not going to do however, is jump the gun and do that while attempts to resolve are in process.

For the sake of full clarity, we are hereby giving the Syscoin team 48 hours as of 1800 GMT this evening; to deliver a stable and working product. If at 1800 GMT on August 20th, the coin is still in a completely non-usable state (multiple forks, wallet corruption, service issues, mining issues, etc) and no progress has been made; we will begin the process of fully refunding coin holders at ICO rates. If good progress has been made (and only lesser issues remain), we will readdress this issue. If the coin is fully resolved? Great, escrow released. I will be communicating this to the Syscoin team momentarily.

[Soul_eater_123]

Guys just please make sure that you are able to 100% deliver on this fork.  If another fork is needed after this the coin will be dead.  Therefore if you need more time then amend the deadline to take this into account.  This is your last chance to rescue this (if it isn't already too late after the failed fork from last night).  Make sure you can deliver.  Also why did you choose the insane time of 4am - make it a time when you can all be awake and fully functional.

[DreamSpace]

lol FUDDERS everywhere but ok it is an opportunity .. devs just do it right now, update all available information and make sure all is good before the fork starts and we will see what happens.
this coin is not all about a simple blockchain, but the joke is of course it needs a functioning one and if all is going bad, there is still moolah, they are doing in my opinion a good job so far.

just my 2 sys

[newbie123456789]

So moolah offers escrow on the terms of a fully functional product. Products werent met. Now we arent being given back our btc... am I missing something here. Did the terms and conditions outline a time? Yes.. the launch date. It failed. Moolah I know its alot of work, but your not sticking to your words here. You have failed us. Syscoin is dead forever, no coin will survive after screwing over every investor.

For the sake of full clarity, we are hereby giving the Syscoin team 48 hours as of 1800 GMT this evening; to deliver a stable and working product. If at 1800 GMT on August 20th, the coin is still in a completely non-usable state (multiple forks, wallet corruption, service issues, mining issues, etc) and no progress has been made; we will begin the process of fully refunding coin holders at ICO rates. If good progress has been made (and only lesser issues remain), we will readdress this issue. If the coin is fully resolved? Great, escrow released. I will be communicating this to the Syscoin team momentarily.

Elaborate, what does good progress and lesser issues mean?
Seems pretty vague.

[S3MKi]

stuck here 2383 more than 30 minutes...

[nomoreheroes7]

For the sake of full clarity, we are hereby giving the Syscoin team 48 hours as of 1800 GMT this evening; to deliver a stable and working product. If at 1800 GMT on August 20th, the coin is still in a completely non-usable state (multiple forks, wallet corruption, service issues, mining issues, etc) and no progress has been made; we will begin the process of fully refunding coin holders at ICO rates. If good progress has been made (and only lesser issues remain), we will readdress this issue. If the coin is fully resolved? Great, escrow released. I will be communicating this to the Syscoin team momentarily.

Elaborate, what does good progress and lesser issues mean?
Seems pretty vague.

Good progress = working blockchain
Lesser issues = data button not working in wallet

My take on it.

[larraboj]

So moolah offers escrow on the terms of a fully functional product. Products werent met. Now we arent being given back our btc... am I missing something here. Did the terms and conditions outline a time? Yes.. the launch date. It failed. Moolah I know its alot of work, but your not sticking to your words here. You have failed us. Syscoin is dead forever, no coin will survive after screwing over every investor.

Our agreement with Syscoin included a launch window to allow the developers the opportunity to fix any issues that popped up. We are still within that window, and the developers are actively working to resolve those issues. We have stated repeatedly that we will process refunds if the developers fail to deliver a working product, what we are not going to do however, is jump the gun and do that while attempts to resolve are in process.

For the sake of full clarity, we are hereby giving the Syscoin team 48 hours as of 1800 GMT this evening; to deliver a stable and working product. If at 1800 GMT on August 20th, the coin is still in a completely non-usable state (multiple forks, wallet corruption, service issues, mining issues, etc) and no progress has been made; we will begin the process of fully refunding coin holders at ICO rates. If good progress has been made (and only lesser issues remain), we will readdress this issue. If the coin is fully resolved? Great, escrow released. I will be communicating this to the Syscoin team momentarily.

Here we have it and now we all know for next time

~4 days from launch for devs to fix bugs before refunds are OK when using moolah as escrow.

[helloge]

Honestly guys.. This is crypto, forks happens, we are not happy about but are doing this to get a strong and solid network.
Solid working blockschain is our number one priority

go head, we  need the dev's work.