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Selg BTC for cash og bruk cash de gangene du skal unne deg noe ekstra. Er det større summer er det nok ikke så mye du kan gjøre annet enn å betale eller gjemme pengene i utlandet.
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Guess not everybody is that lucky. Payout not on time, critical bug leaving my balance in minus and no reply to support tickets for close to 48 hours. But he is making good money, no doubt about that.
Well, you are not the only one who experienced the 'negative balance' bug in Bitcoin Builder. Though in my case Josh responded to my e-mail in less than 24 hrs and fixed the problem. (Other than that, everything went OK for me, including withdrawals.) Ahh cool. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one with this issue and that it was solved. I actually "fixed it" myself by buying back lower, that took the minus balance into plus and even made me a decent profit. Now I'll just have to wait and see if payment goes through today. |
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25K BTC volume on Bitcoinbuilder.
the owner of that website is making MILLIONS just by having a website and "guaranteeing" the trades. He processes them manually. He makes 2% on each trade, on both sides of the trade. Even for bitcoin standards, this is an astonishing easy way of becoming a fucking millionaire. I bet he is praying for Gox stalling the situation indefinitely  He is doing a pretty good job so far. The payouts are on time, the trades are nearly instant. Can't complain so far. Guess not everybody is that lucky. Payout not on time, critical bug leaving my balance in minus and no reply to support tickets for close to 48 hours. But he is making good money, no doubt about that. Kozi, I miss your animated gifs. And I really miss your musical videos. Really.  Heeey i got a fan ! I will use that gif in the Gox's delays thread with your permission  haha do as you want with it  |
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25K BTC volume on Bitcoinbuilder.
the owner of that website is making MILLIONS just by having a website and "guaranteeing" the trades. He processes them manually. He makes 2% on each trade, on both sides of the trade. Even for bitcoin standards, this is an astonishing easy way of becoming a fucking millionaire. I bet he is praying for Gox stalling the situation indefinitely He is doing a pretty good job so far. The payouts are on time, the trades are nearly instant. Can't complain so far. Guess not everybody is that lucky. Payout not on time, critical bug leaving my balance in minus and no reply to support tickets for close to 48 hours. But he is making good money, no doubt about that. Kozi, I miss your animated gifs. And I really miss your musical videos. Really. Heeey i got a fan ! |
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25K BTC volume on Bitcoinbuilder.
the owner of that website is making MILLIONS just by having a website and "guaranteeing" the trades. He processes them manually. He makes 2% on each trade, on both sides of the trade. Even for bitcoin standards, this is an astonishing easy way of becoming a fucking millionaire. I bet he is praying for Gox stalling the situation indefinitely He is doing a pretty good job so far. The payouts are on time, the trades are nearly instant. Can't complain so far. Guess not everybody is that lucky. Payout not on time, critical bug leaving my balance in minus and no reply to support tickets for close to 48 hours. But he is making good money, no doubt about that. |
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I reported a serious bug more than 24 hours ago, still no reply despite tweets going out in the meantime. Neither did I receive my withdraw which has been pending for more than 24 hours as well.
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I didn't understand either. I thought it was mark doing some kind of manipulation to wipe out everyone who attempted to trade.
It was Mark and cronies selling...no one else ever did !...Btc withdrawl never opens again...you won´t see Mark ever again in public ! The Sepa and Yen queues will work as long as there is more inflow than outflow when not being seized finally. Everything else is complete brain -dead shell speculation. Cheers Actually, surfer43 sold at $140. Quote: The recent price rise at Gox just screwed me majorly.
+1  So you've both sold goxcoins for less than $200? 140  |
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This looks amazing. I wonder how long files are stored? Is it like freenet? The potential of data de-duplication in distributed networks is massive. Can't wait to see this in action.
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It is interesting that you haven't spoken up since the price went so low, and you have yet to respond to accusations of being able to get preferential treatment. If you expect us all to trust you, you need to be MUCH more transparent. And buying 100 goxBTC?! Maybe a few thousand goxBTC would make your statement carry more weight. Watching the "hostage" video you put out and then reading that you are only willing to risk an investment of 100 goxBTC made me very frustrated  P.S. If you are our jesus, why does your site price bitcoin higher than the market does (bitcoinstore)? why do i lose money buying on the exchange and then buying products at your store? That takes all the adoption incentive out of bitcoin, and makes you far from deserving of any "Jesus" title. Please put your money where your mouth is, but for real this time. He is not buying 100 BTC, he is buying MINIMUM 100 BTC. He don't want to bother with petty sums |
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All in and depositing money to buy more coins.
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The thing that delayed my recognition for so long, is the fact that these guys have so much money already - why would they need to steal more? Any credible ideas?
Yes, they are not stealing it. They sold BTC that they did not have. Simple explanation. It explains why the crashed the market in April 2013. Assuming they sold and caused the april 2013 crash, why could they not simply buy the bitcoins back at $60-100 with massive profit? It makes no sense that they would sell customers bitcoin and not buy them back when they had a great opportunity to do so. But why would they take the risk of selling customer funds in the first place? This doesn't make sense. None of it. It explains why for the longest time BTC has a higher USD premium that other exchanges. And how does them selling all their bitcoin explain that exactly? The premium was higher because withdraws are delayed, that's all. People paid more for BTC to withdraw and sell on other exchanges. And then the argument of them having lack of USD falls short too, if they (according to you) sold at the very top and even caused the crash, they should be loaded with USD and withdraws should not be delayed due to insolvency. Explain why right now BTC is 80% lower than other exchanges... this is a rigged up way to cover their shorts. Market psychology, people are panicking due to FUD. I'll admit it's weird that people are willing to sell their coins in low $100s and double digits, but other than that, we don't know why people sell. Unfortunately, they could be more short BTC than anyone can imagine.
Let's say you were in 2012 and had an exchange for some obscure crypto-currency like Bitcoin. What if you thought that Bitcoin could never possibly be worth more than $20. So when people come to your exchange, you sell them BTC that you don't have. Then one day in 2013, it rises from $10 to $240.... you panic... turn off all trading and crash the market. But the dip was too quick to cover your shorts, so for the longest time you try to cover... until you can't take it anymore and shut down all withdrawals.
Mt.Gox is short and are covering their shorts as we speak. This is a wild conspiracy theory, and that's all this is. No indication that mtgox has stolen our funds, but with a tinfoil hat on, I guess anything is possible. Do you understand what going short means and how to cover the short position? Do you know how to spot a short squeeze in progress? I keep talking about going short BTC and it seems most folks here don't have a clue what I'm talking about! Sigh! So they made a short when the price was $266, yet didn't bother to cover the short when the price crashed all the way down to $50. Sounds rational. I wired another 50k to mtgox today, posts like these makes me more confident that I'm doing the right thing. |
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The thing that delayed my recognition for so long, is the fact that these guys have so much money already - why would they need to steal more? Any credible ideas?
Yes, they are not stealing it. They sold BTC that they did not have. Simple explanation. It explains why the crashed the market in April 2013. Assuming they sold and caused the april 2013 crash, why could they not simply buy the bitcoins back at $60-100 with massive profit? It makes no sense that they would sell customers bitcoin and not buy them back when they had a great opportunity to do so. But why would they take the risk of selling customer funds in the first place? This doesn't make sense. None of it. It explains why for the longest time BTC has a higher USD premium that other exchanges. And how does them selling all their bitcoin explain that exactly? The premium was higher because withdraws are delayed, that's all. People paid more for BTC to withdraw and sell on other exchanges. And then the argument of them having lack of USD falls short too, if they (according to you) sold at the very top and even caused the crash, they should be loaded with USD and withdraws should not be delayed due to insolvency. Explain why right now BTC is 80% lower than other exchanges... this is a rigged up way to cover their shorts. Market psychology, people are panicking due to FUD. I'll admit it's weird that people are willing to sell their coins in low $100s and double digits, but other than that, we don't know why people sell. Unfortunately, they could be more short BTC than anyone can imagine.
Let's say you were in 2012 and had an exchange for some obscure crypto-currency like Bitcoin. What if you thought that Bitcoin could never possibly be worth more than $20. So when people come to your exchange, you sell them BTC that you don't have. Then one day in 2013, it rises from $10 to $240.... you panic... turn off all trading and crash the market. But the dip was too quick to cover your shorts, so for the longest time you try to cover... until you can't take it anymore and shut down all withdrawals.
Mt.Gox is short and are covering their shorts as we speak. This is a wild conspiracy theory, and that's all this is. No indication that mtgox has stolen our funds, but with a tinfoil hat on, I guess anything is possible. |
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The thing that delayed my recognition for so long, is the fact that these guys have so much money already - why would they need to steal more? Any credible ideas?
Yes, they are not stealing it. |
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the experience of owning some btc and using it yourself is beyond description and without this particular experience you can't ever hope to approach anything resembling an "objective opinion" on the technology.
+1 that is correct. once you have used the bitcoin protocol, experience the smoothness, the speed, the power to move wealth with you fingertips, its elegance and that is it is bringing financial sovereignty to yourself, it becomes more obvious to you, that the traditional way to bank people is utterly non-modern, as outdated as public stagecoaches in times of internet/email. the internet revolutionized the way we communicate. bitcoin will monetarize the internet and revolutionize the way we move money. Bitcoin is overhyped, overvalued, overcentralized...see Gox, Asic and the bitcoinfoundation full of corrupted fucktards who want to sell out to Goldman Sucks... Any other crypto is better...especially Litecoin is faster and more promising....get off the dying horse...  |
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Where did Vladimir go? I really enjoyed reading his posts.
 Seems like he has deleted most of his post and left |
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Cannot believe those idiots are still allowing trading. I've written off my 6 btc with them at this point. Assholes
Why would they not allow trading? They're making good money now, especially with the volatility we're seeing. If you have written off your 6 btc as lost you may as well trade it for some bitcoins, right? I'll take it for 1.5 real btc. |
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What is the theory - why is goxbtc/goxusd price so low?
OMG its not a theory, its in front of your eyes ! Insiders (people connected to Mark and other readily accessibles accounts and he himself are cashing out!) no matter what ---- nobody is doing anything about that --- so they just go on....extincting any kind of proove...creating a story together with some parasites laywers and the die is cast - pronto This does not answer the question - why is goxbtc price so cheap compared to goxusd. They are both gox, and have been non-withdrawable for about 4 weeks. Is not people still reporting EUR withdraws being processed? From what I've seen, EUR withdraws still occur. Also, people who believe gox is insolvent would rather hold USD maybe because they believe it will be easier to get the USD back legally. |
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 So...did you record this song after traveling back in time after you've done this? Heh and just today after listening to it I sent you a small tip, asking myself "I wonder what she'll do with that money"  Who would have guessed. Anyway, as a fellow gambler: if you feel the odds are right and you have the bankroll to take the risk - go for it and good luck! Thanks for the tips and good luck wishes, that reminds me, the address is still pointing towards my mtgox account.  Heh and just today after listening to it I sent you a small tip, asking myself "I wonder what she'll do with that money" Who would have guessed. IIRC, Kozi is not the one that actually sung the song, but made the lyrics. So could be a "he" too. Truth is I found a singer on fiverr. I'm glad to hear they accept bitcoin now |
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What's the fastest way to deposit fiat on Gox now?
How fast is OK-Pay?
(Yes, I'm aware of the risks.)
1 business day. I transfer btc-e usd -> okpay -> mtgox in 24 hours |
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I don't know how many people on this board have experience with markets, investing, or the like outside of BTC. But when something a good/commodity/stock/currency/anything is 80% lower in one place than everywhere else, it's never an "everything is ok" situation. That is a huge discount. It is real life arbitrage in the wild...provided that Mt. Gox is solvent and ok and reliable. But arbitrage is a condition that gets shut down instantly by market forces. Unless it's not arbitrage and is instead a reflection of something else, some other embedded risk. That's what this is -- the market's decentralized invisible hand is saying pretty clearly that there is an 80% chance that Mt. Gox will not be honoring its debts (both USD and BTC) to its customers.
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Yes, as I have said. Good first post. First good post from a newbie or how about anti-gox shill? |
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