Let’s start with this: Lead me to some of your older posts that you feel good about, when you realized you liked bitcoin and you want to be here because you want to know more.
are you referring to the technical aspect of bitcoin like its algorithm and the like? coz i dont have much post about that but i have the basics, im mostly focus on trading strategies. whats your take?  I went ahead and looked at your posts and I’m afraid I can’t help you. You’re mainly here for altcoins and many of your posts are in a language that I don’t understand. Sorry about that. Good luck to you though. |
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Awarded 20 merit points to your post. Remember when you pass this on, don’t just give it to people you agree with, give it to people that can add something to the conversation, right or wrong. People learn more from being wrong than they do from being right.
Thanks. Indeed we wouldn't need a forum if we all agreed about everything. In that spirit, I passed the 10 sMerit on to the person I spend the most time arguing with. He would have been ranked up to Sr. Member next week and is definitely worthy of the title. Outstanding |
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I like altcoins because i can exchange these for bitcoins. Merit system may work great for quality as people said. But the Merit distribution could have been a little more fair. Rank is important for the signature bounty only. The users who like blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies can find other bounty solutions like blog articles.
Does that mean you're applying for merit? |
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Here is a handy reference for those confused by the Merit system. - 1 Merit = Like (AKA Agree)
- 2 Merit = Upvote
- 4 Merit = Upvote twice (you know you've always wanted this feature)
- 20 Merit = Bitcointalk Gold
/Merit whoringI gave you 3 mate just to mess with your head a little.. great idea though, but it not quite as clear cut as loads of people didn't get as many as us! It just occurred to me that we can go back and Edit our posts to anything we want without changing their Merit score.  EG, I could add a "3 Merit" tier to my list and make it say something really rude/hilarious (best left to the imagination). Of course you may also edit/delete your post in response but it's still a funny hack IMO. LOL you frigin crack me up iCEBREAKER. You know you’re only crazy because you don’t have BCX to keep you in line anymore. BTW: put your old avatar back up dammit. It’s like I’m looking at you naked now. |
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I hope so too. Sorry, but I can’t support bill gator because he’s giving merit to sig campaign managers. Thanks for stopping by though. |
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Do you like having paved roads, street lights and firefighters?
I do. However, I don't see taxes as the ONLY way for those things to exist. Sure you don’t like some things your government spends money on but you probably like others.
Privatize more of it and those that like it can pay for it. Those that don't, won't have to. Ask yourself if you want to support your society or not.
Those parts of it that I like? Sure. Those parts that I don't like? I'd prefer not to. The last thing is how comfortable are you with paying the penalty if you get caught. Penalties for tax evasion can run from a small monetary fine all the way to years behind bars.
And this is why I ALWAYS report ALL my income and ALWAYS pay all the taxes that I'm legally required to pay. The exact same reason that I would turn my entire wallet over to someone that is pointing a gun at my head if they asked for it. The consequences aren't worth the risk. Are ok with getting caught because it’s a real possibility?
I'd prefer it if my government didn't steal my money. However, if they are going to do it, then I'm not going to try to steal it back or hide it from them. They have bigger guns than I do. I think you feel pretty much the way I do. The real killer for me is the jail time. I might protest something government is spending money on and march on Washington because I know even if I’m arrested I’ll be out right away. I do draw the line with tax protesting because I really don’t want a new boyfriend for the next few years. LOL However, I do know some people that don’t share my feelings about jail time. I actually have had a crazy friend that was a dealer and used the phrase, “who cares, three hots and a cot”. That’s why I say it’s a personal choice and no one can tell you what’s right for you. |
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I have 1 bitcoin in a hardware wallet (purchased through coinbase), and my plan was to hold for long term thus reducing tax burden. Hypothetically, if I sent that 1 BTC to a Binance account, did some day trades etc and ended up with 2 BTC, and then “replaced” the 1 bitcoin back into my hardware wallet (leaving the newly made 1 on Binance), and a year later sent to coinbase and sold it, how would anyone catch that I used that Bitcoin for trading and I owe taxes on those trades?
This has always been a point of contention for bitcoin users. This is actually a much deeper issue than it appears to be on the surface and each person needs to evaluate where they stand on the issue personally. Bitcoin is supposed to be this great semi-anonymous system that allows you to avoid third party involvement in the way you use money, right? You don’t need a bank to send money to your friends or to buy something online. Unfortunately, that’s not the way most people are using bitcoin (yet). Before you decide to be a tax cheat think about how you're using bitcoin and what you believe about society and jail time. If you never involve an exchange or any other institution that may be audited, raided or voluntarily comply with AML/KYC laws (like Coinbase) then you can probably be a tax cheat. Now ask yourself how you feel about taxes. Do you like having paved roads, street lights and firefighters? Sure you don’t like some things your government spends money on but you probably like others. Ask yourself if you want to support your society or not. The last thing is how comfortable are you with paying the penalty if you get caught. Penalties for tax evasion can run from a small monetary fine all the way to years behind bars. Are ok with getting caught because it’s a real possibility? |
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Just like with beggars on the street, I would be willing to give to a beggar that’s creative. I would give this guy $10.  Of course, a creative beggar is providing a service which should be rewarded. However, I'm afraid 10$ would solve only a few micron of that beggar's problem So should we open a CREATIVE MERIT BEGGING thread?  That would open the way to a whole new ecology of merit-rewarding games and competitions, even though I am afraid that the true spirit of the reform could get *slightly* twisted in the process... That’s probably the most positive thing someone has said in this thread yet. It would be interesting to see an off-topic thread devoted to games and competitions that paid in merit. Creative begging could pull beggars from other sections of the forum and let them go nuts in off-topic without being banned. LOL I'm happy you've appreciated it. But if this is allegedly "the most positive thing someone has said in this thread yet", why did I not receive any single merit by anyone? I'm afraid that begging will really become a much better way of receiving merits than just doing your good sincere posts. That's because there are so many form of begging - direct ones, indirect ones, implicit ones, suggested ones, and I won't mention butt-licking - hooops... I did it. It's true that this new merit criteria will probably slow down spam, but in the best case scenario it will also push most people who are not legendary yet to conformism and thus to express only opinions which are likely to get rewarded with merit. Maybe, but there are people that don’t like conformity and will give you merit. I think like minded people will support each other by giving each other merit. That’s the same problem the Reddit karma system has. It doesn’t foster good debates it forms cliques. I’ve seen groups of the same people move into a thread on reddit and crush someone that has a different view from their own. This system may actually curtail spam and abuse or it may force people into little groups that form into larger beasts by increasing the like minded membership in their clique. Only time will tell. I have never liked the human attitude of forming "cliques" for whatever reason. I find it somehow a quite sub-human feature, a heritage of the cavemen we've been for hundreds of thousands of years and that in many cases we still are, alas. I had hoped to be able to escape that stuff online in general and on Bitcointalk in particular, but it seems that one way or another wherever you go you always end up surrounded by people aggregating in cliques hostile to each others ... I’m hoping (and helping) it will not become that way. |
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Please try to merit posts that other people might find interesting, since top-merited posts show up on the stats. Will do. |
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I'm not applying because I don't really care about becoming a Hero. If I was I would have been more consistently active over the last 5 years. I just wanted to say good on you for recognising it's the higher up members that just missed out on ranking up that it hurts the most. From having a few days or weeks to suddenly looking at probably years to get 250 or 500 more merits.
I know you didn’t ask for it but I just reviewed your post history. You’re knowledgeable, appreciate bitcoin, helpful to people that need it, not looking for a quick scam and seem to really want to be here for the right reasons. Even though I don’t agree with everything you said, you're the kind of person that should be here. Awarded 20 merit points to your post. Remember when you pass this on, don’t just give it to people you agree with, give it to people that can add something to the conversation, right or wrong. People learn more from being wrong than they do from being right. |
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I agree with this approach. I considered giving merit proportional to activity, but I decided not to because doing so would probably give far more undeserved merit than deserved merit in total. But undoubtedly some people got screwed by this, and if they have decent posts, by all means, give them the 250 or 500 merit that they need to rank-up.
I also agree with the idea of (free) "reviewer" topics in general, for finding high-quality posts that went unnoticed. Barcode_ created one in the Chinese section, as well.
Great and thanks for the support. Have mods send people to this thread that do not have time to do the research but think someone is deserving. |
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Just like with beggars on the street, I would be willing to give to a beggar that’s creative. I would give this guy $10. Of course, a creative beggar is providing a service which should be rewarded. However, I'm afraid 10$ would solve only a few micron of that beggar's problem So should we open a CREATIVE MERIT BEGGING thread? That would open the way to a whole new ecology of merit-rewarding games and competitions, even though I am afraid that the true spirit of the reform could get *slightly* twisted in the process... That’s probably the most positive thing someone has said in this thread yet. It would be interesting to see an off-topic thread devoted to games and competitions that paid in merit. Creative begging could pull beggars from other sections of the forum and let them go nuts in off-topic without being banned. LOL I'm happy you've appreciated it. But if this is allegedly "the most positive thing someone has said in this thread yet", why did I not receive any single merit by anyone? I'm afraid that begging will really become a much better way of receiving merits than just doing your good sincere posts. That's because there are so many form of begging - direct ones, indirect ones, implicit ones, suggested ones, and I won't mention butt-licking - hooops... I did it. It's true that this new merit criteria will probably slow down spam, but in the best case scenario it will also push most people who are not legendary yet to conformism and thus to express only opinions which are likely to get rewarded with merit. Maybe, but there are people that don’t like conformity and will give you merit. I think like minded people will support each other by giving each other merit. That’s the same problem the Reddit karma system has. It doesn’t foster good debates it forms cliques. I’ve seen groups of the same people move into a thread on reddit and crush someone that has a different view from their own. This system may actually curtail spam and abuse or it may force people into little groups that form into larger beasts by increasing the like minded membership in their clique. Only time will tell. |
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Just like with beggars on the street, I would be willing to give to a beggar that’s creative. I would give this guy $10. Of course, a creative beggar is providing a service which should be rewarded. However, I'm afraid 10$ would solve only a few micron of that beggar's problem So should we open a CREATIVE MERIT BEGGING thread? That would open the way to a whole new ecology of merit-rewarding games and competitions, even though I am afraid that the true spirit of the reform could get *slightly* twisted in the process... That’s probably the most positive thing someone has said in this thread yet. It would be interesting to see an off-topic thread devoted to games and competitions that paid in merit. Creative begging could pull beggars from other sections of the forum and let them go nuts in off-topic without being banned. LOL |
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I like this idea QA and I'll create a similar thread like this soonish. In the mean time I've given you and TheQuin some merit and I might give some more to other people that post here if you don't mind QA.
Thanks, I’ll pass that along and please do. I want good people to level up. I miss the old days when there were people on this forum that could actually debate something because they understood bitcoin. Even when I was wrong I learned something with every debate. |
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Except it’s not against the rules to have alts and it’s not against the rules to sell accounts. If they would ban people for doing those two things you would probably have a solution to the problem they are trying to solve with the merit system.
It would be difficult to enforce a ban on alts/sales. The merit system might make having alts less attractive since it's so much harder to rank up now. Baby steps. Yeah, I understand. Even if you do ban them they will simply do it somewhere else so it’s pointless. Let’s hope it works as expected. |
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You want to multiply your Merit and you don't care how much sMerit you have? Easily done, if you have been able to spam a lot in the last years:
Account A: 1000 Merit / 500 sMerit
Account B: 0 Merit / 0 sMerit
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A sends B 500 sMerit
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You can only send 50 sMerit to a user in a 30 days period. It's going to take 10 months for that (or multiple accounts). But since Merit is public it s also easy to trace. This merit system could also be used to track and hunt down alts.  Obviously these farmers will abuse the merit system in order for their alts to rank up. Making it easier to track alts and could provide solid proofs. Except it’s not against the rules to have alts and it’s not against the rules to sell accounts. If they would ban people for doing those two things you would probably have a solution to the problem they are trying to solve with the merit system. True, but sooner or later the moderators will figure out that some random farmers are abusing the merit system by exchanging merits between their own account. The true purpose of the merit system is to promote quality posting and lessen spamming and shitposting, right? But by abusing the system will just provide solid proof to those having alts that eventually abused bounties as well. True, it could be useful to highlight that but you must realize that will take a lot of time to research too. You will have the proof you need but this is a private non profit business. The administration doesn’t really need much proof if they want to permanently ban an account. They can do it if they just strongly feel the account is abusing the system. Merit is supposed to free up mods to do other work not overly encumber them with more work. |
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I don’t have much Merit to give but I’m going to give it up until it’s all gone. I’m not sure if this is the right section for this thread because I’m not really selling anything. It’s about accounts so I’ll just leave it here until someone decides to move it. I don’t know if this is wrong to do. I don’t care if I get negative trust for doing this because I don’t buy anything here, sell anything here, join signature campaigns or post routinely in threads that even show the trust rating. Essentially I don’t make money here so I don’t use trust anyway.
I felt sorry for SOME of the members that posted in the merit thread. They seemed to be fairly articulate, fairly knowledgeable, rational and really trying to be members of this group of dreamers (community).
Here’s how it’s going to work. You’re not just going to beg for merit and I give it. Do not PM me and offer to pay me for merit points. Your money means nothing to me. I have given away more bitcoin than you will likely earn while on this forum (just ask Gleb Gamow if you don’t believe me). I will report you to a mod that will give you negative trust for being a potential scammer. You will ask me to research your post history and direct me to 10-20 posts that you believe show you have a deep desire to learn about, use, and support bitcoin. I will then ask you a couple of questions about how bitcoin works and you will answer them. I don’t care if you take some time to research the answer if you come up with the correct answer. That just means I’ve made you learn more about bitcoin than you knew previously.
Bitcoin does not mean altcoin. I know altcoins are more popular on this forum than bitcoin. I don’t care. I will only help bitcoiners level up. If most of your post history is in altcoin threads I won’t help you. I do not consider Bitcoin Cash to be bitcoin. If you don’t know what the real bitcoin is then you haven’t been here long enough for me to help you. Which leads me to the group I’m willing to help.
Rank Required activity Required merit
Brand new 0 0
Newbie 1 0
Jr Member 30 0
Member 60 10
Full Member 120 100
Sr. Member 240 250
Hero Member 480 500
New members, Newbies, Jr Members and Members don’t need any merit. They don’t have enough post history to judge so I won’t be helping them.
Full members, Sr. Members and Hero Members really got screwed with the merit system. Some of them were really close to leveling up and now have to wait until they’ve impressed the right person to probably get only one merit point from them. The most extreme case of this is Hero Member. They may need hundreds of merit points to level up which could take a very long time to get.
You will be working for 20 merit points. Good luck to all. I will announce when they’re gone and lock the thread.
If it pours rain some folks are happy like farmers they say its a blessing but not to some specially if you're in a city, just like the merits system... try me, id love to be tested about my knowledge on bitcoin, though i admit the merit system really hurt Let’s start with this: Lead me to some of your older posts that you feel good about, when you realized you liked bitcoin and you want to be here because you want to know more. |
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You want to multiply your Merit and you don't care how much sMerit you have? Easily done, if you have been able to spam a lot in the last years:
Account A: 1000 Merit / 500 sMerit
Account B: 0 Merit / 0 sMerit
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A sends B 500 sMerit
~snip
You can only send 50 sMerit to a user in a 30 days period. It's going to take 10 months for that (or multiple accounts). But since Merit is public it s also easy to trace. This merit system could also be used to track and hunt down alts. Obviously these farmers will abuse the merit system in order for their alts to rank up. Making it easier to track alts and could provide solid proofs. Except it’s not against the rules to have alts and it’s not against the rules to sell accounts. If they would ban people for doing those two things you would probably have a solution to the problem they are trying to solve with the merit system. |
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Everyone is praising this as if it’s a good thing. Do any of you realize bitcoin isn’t ready for this? This thread is a joke thread to me because the fees are way to high to buy chicken. It takes too long for a confirmation which means some BitPay business will need to be a middleman and all they do is immediately cash out the sale for fiat. The immediate volume would crush the network and increase fees while overloading the mempool. None of you know a fucking thing about bitcoin.
Or you could use your Shift card that's linked to your Coinbase account. I use mine for chicken. I go to Popeyes though. Way better then KFC if you ask me. You can use it at an ATM too. The fee is the same as from my bank. (Either 3.00 or 3.50, can't remember at the moment) I get that people like whatever wallet they're using, but just have 2 (or more) wallets. For every person that uses Coinbase or some other off chain solution, that leaves more room for other persons transactions, lowering costs for everyone, and increasing the value of BTC for everyone. It's a win win for everyone. (Except maybe for some people heavily invested in some altcoin but not invested in BTC.) That’s a better way to do it. Bitcoin either needs a lot of third party solutions layered on top or it needs devs that can solve its problems. Although, if you integrate too many mainstream banking solutions into bitcoin then it isn’t bitcoin anymore. |
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I'm not applying because I don't really care about becoming a Hero. If I was I would have been more consistently active over the last 5 years. I just wanted to say good on you for recognising it's the higher up members that just missed out on ranking up that it hurts the most. From having a few days or weeks to suddenly looking at probably years to get 250 or 500 more merits.
You should apply. You are definitely in the zone. It’s not that I don’t appreciate what the administration is trying to do and I don’t have a better solution to the problem. I just see it being unfair to some people. Maybe if a mod could do what I’m doing and review some cases they could award merit on those people that deserve it. They would be more fair of course, giving to all equally and not just bitcoiners. |
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