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581  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 25, 2023, 08:41:06 PM
~snip~
This is a very fine line between gambling and addiction for any player, no matter how pro-gamer he is, but that’s why a professional is called such that he can control it. I am sure that there are professionals who, after many years of playing, broke down and fell into the abyss. But if he starts with low limits, then he will be able to rise again if the fall was not fatal and did not cause him severe moral suffering turning into chronic depression.
Indeed, it is a fine line, and it is often difficult to distinguish it. But with our experience, we can know and differentiate it. Yes, I agree with you that there are professional players who end up losing a lot and despair because they cannot control themselves well while they are gambling. They forget that gambling has many temptations, so they seem to underestimate gambling and say they are used to dealing with it. But from underestimating them, they will start to encounter problem after problem, which, in the end, they cannot handle and makes them start to lose control of themselves in gambling. He would feel like he had hit rock bottom again and might not be able to get up again if he didn't quickly realize that he had made a mistake. By realizing his mistakes and the desire to correct his mistakes, he can get back up and start correcting the mistakes he has made.
I remembered a moment from the movie Molly's Game. There, one day an old and calm professional player came to Molly Bloom’s club and decided to play poker. There were other players sitting at the table who played well, but there was one who played terribly, he played with different cards and placed different bets. So this old pro started losing hand after hand to this amateur. This happened all the time, the other players even started laughing at this situation. All these reasons caused his tilt and he lost everything completely. Then he borrowed more money and lost it.

This situation showed how a professional player sinks to the bottom. I liked how it was shown in the film, I think in reality there were many such situations. I would call this a guide for professional players. If they feel that they are sinking to the bottom, they should remember this part of the film, it will probably stop them.
582  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Gambling affect your relationship? on: December 25, 2023, 08:23:49 PM
Yes we have seen when a gambler start gambling at the starting time the distance between a gambler and gambler family increase. In our society usually people don't take gambling lightly they have a lot of bad thinking for gamblers. Because the gambler in our country limit less. They play until go empty. That reason relationship distance increase and people don't like gamblers.
If the gambler cannot divide his time between gambling and his family, he can start to become distant from his family. And if he becomes less and less aware of this "distant," he will become increasingly distant from everyone, not just his family. He will become more concerned with gambling than other people, even his own family.

They cannot differentiate between their gambling and their family. All that was on his mind was gambling. And the more often they gamble, the more they will forget the presence of their family. Every gambler should avoid this because they gamble only to have fun. And that means they must not forget or become distant from their families or the people around them.

If they can balance their gambling activities with their family, they can still enjoy their free time by gambling. However, if they feel that gambling makes them distant from their family, they must immediately stop their gambling activities. If not, they will get deeper into gambling and will eventually become addicted to gambling.
When starting to gamble, a player may not even suspect what consequences this will have for him if he succumbs to emotions all the time. When opening a casino site, he must understand that it is possible that this will destroy his family and take it seriously, one should not underestimate it and think that this is just entertainment. From entertainment it can turn into addiction and after that you will have to choose between family and gaming. The player will understand that family is more important, but will not be able to do anything about it, because emotions will be stronger than his understanding. In the most serious situations, even children suffer, no matter how hard it is for me to say. In this case, you need to immediately leave the player and look for a better life.

If there are no children, then you can try to get the addicted person out of this, if after several attempts he plays no matter what, it is better to leave him with the game, because otherwise both people will ruin their lives.
583  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: [In Memoriam] Guess BTC price contest on: December 25, 2023, 07:14:21 PM
Probably the acceptance or non-acceptance of the ETF won't have a very good effect on the price of BTC, but it should not fall much, it will only show a slight decrease.
After some time, this news will settle down and everything will be fine with Bitcoin.

Code:
38,421.92

We will always remember you light_warrior, you raised a very good daughter, she managed this money like that.
584  Local / Трейдеры / Re: CommEX – новая крипто биржа on: December 24, 2023, 07:41:26 PM
Прямо сейчас начался стрим на твиче на котором определится выигрышный билет!

На стриме 1300 зрителей. Я вот подумал, в зале без задержки получится ли с мобильника купить билет или нет самому быстрому. В чате кто-то написал что надо было всем смартфоны сначала сдать. Тут CEO Сrypton стоит:



В дополнении раздали 1000 билетов (по билету каждому) тем кто в zealy в топ-1000 в лидерборде были.

Победил билет с номером 3880, на маркете видно что у этого кошелька было 6 билетов. Сразу же предложение выкупить выигрышный билет поступило за 1000 TON (2200$)
585  Local / Трейдеры / Re: CommEX – новая крипто биржа on: December 23, 2023, 06:50:43 PM
Картинку ваша на форуме не открывает у меня.

А представьте купленный билет будет выигрышным, ну так если по размышлять. Желаю победы, если оставите билет на мустанг)

Торговля просто активная идет нфтшками, несколько сделок в минуту, рынок еще не выравнял цены, некоторым удается купить кто плохо разбирается либо сделал опечатку при выставлении цены. Дежавю, все так и было в прошлом году, некоторые урвали много чего ценного за небольшую цену. Потом у же когда через пару дней я начал разгребать все нфт и скурпулезно смотреть цены, ничего дешевого уже не было так и сейчас будет.

Из того что покупают вижу: cвитера улетают по 22$, кружки по 3$, скины для АК по 18$, части щелкунчика тоже берут.

свежее видео: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYqPOJVVRY
А зачем части щелкунчика нужны?
Там 6 деталей щелкунчика, можно собрать каким-то образом из них целого. Я не очень слежу за этим, поэтому лучше вам спросить в их чате в котором за сутки 9 тысяч сообщений написали (вчера был бум из-за кейсов)Shocked

Но было в начале декабре следующее сообщение: "Сами части Щелкунчика представляют из себя ликвидные NFT на TON с определенной механикой, которую смогут раскрыть только самые смекалистые участники"
586  Local / Трейдеры / Re: CommEX – новая крипто биржа on: December 23, 2023, 05:49:52 PM
Бокс все же открылся, а в качестве приза мне достался лотерейный билет с розыгрышем мустанга.



Полученный билет необходимо активировать, после активации он станет NFT (Ton). На этапе активации тоже были проблемы.

NFT можно продать на маркетплейсе Getgems: https://getgems.io/collection/EQBdJY4Z6U0qmfN-wBAdVLz87S4iYbLfAmWQo0W5uLBRuwdT

Мой NFT:
https://getgems.io/collection/EQBdJY4Z6U0qmfN-wBAdVLz87S4iYbLfAmWQo0W5uLBRuwdT/EQAXXYbHNssNZOYlKmbyq4J0kjZwnq8KC3N6rFCKHvf0lWMY
Картинку ваша на форуме не открывает у меня.

А представьте купленный билет будет выигрышным, ну так если по размышлять. Желаю победы, если оставите билет на мустанг)

Торговля просто активная идет нфтшками, несколько сделок в минуту, рынок еще не выравнял цены, некоторым удается купить кто плохо разбирается либо сделал опечатку при выставлении цены. Дежавю, все так и было в прошлом году, некоторые урвали много чего ценного за небольшую цену. Потом у же когда через пару дней я начал разгребать все нфт и скурпулезно смотреть цены, ничего дешевого уже не было так и сейчас будет.

Из того что покупают вижу: cвитера улетают по 22$, кружки по 3$, скины для АК по 18$, части щелкунчика тоже берут.

свежее видео: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meYqPOJVVRY
587  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can Gambling affect your relationship? on: December 22, 2023, 09:17:05 PM
Definitely yes, I think that the one who gambles tries to hide it from his partner, because if he finds out, it will have a bad effect on their relationship. It is unknown how far the player will go. If the game comes first for him, then the partner will leave immediately, because he does not want to live with problems that can drive him into great depression. It will be really hard to get out after this. But there will be those who will remain and constantly support and try to fight this problem. I can't say that this is good, because your partner condemns himself to long suffering and sinks to the bottom along with the player. This will not be a full life, it will be a constant struggle.
588  Local / Трейдеры / Re: CommEX – новая крипто биржа on: December 22, 2023, 09:01:42 PM
Новогодний ивент CommEx совместно со скамерами Crypton [15-22 декабря]

Ивент продлили до 24 декабря.

Появились боксы, открыв которые, можно получить приз (открытие пока закрыто).

На Zelay прям куча беспонтовых заданий на выполнение которых уходит довольно много времени. Взаимодействий с бирже CommEx крайне мало.

это организатор Паштет начинал с КС'овских боксов и раскрутился, а потом вошел в крипту, поэтому боксы и запустили, отсылка к началу его пути)

я хоть и сижу в чате WEB3 X-MAS в котором идет бешенное общение и выкладывают работы с игрушками, выпечками и снеговиками, но почти не читаю его, только смотрю что 2-3 тысячи сообщений за сутки настрочили и помечаю прочитанными. Да, на задания уходит и правда не мало времени, собственно из-за этого и полностью пропустил этот ивент, но если бы не возникшие у меня непредвиденные обстоятельства которые отнимают у меня все время, то точно участвовал во всем и старался набить как можно больше xp.

А так придется только глянуть кто выиграл мустанг и самые крутые призы, ради любопытства.

Зашел в чат, там ограничили общение в данный момент, чтобы хейт не лился, там сайт упал полностью. Говорят чтобы не обновляли постоянно сайт и что подарки никуда не пропадут)
589  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 22, 2023, 08:36:44 PM
~snip~
Yes, it reminds me of a professional athlete who needs to constantly stay in shape otherwise equally strong players will try to unseat him. Instead of training in the gym, a professional poker player needs training on a poker simulator with a detailed analysis of the hand or with a coach who will share subtle secrets with us. Also, for an athlete, muscle mass is important, while for a poker player, a flexible brain is important.

Yes, what matters to them is not winning in the first place, but how the process of achieving this occurs. This is the key idea. While an ordinary player has only winning in his head, and then everything else, such people will never be able to win.
Yes, that's what someone has to do to become a professional in their field. If a gambler wants to become a professional gambler, he must train his skills well to improve his abilities. And by continuously practicing their skills, they can become professional gamblers. But it can also make aspiring professional gamblers addicted to gambling because if they don't train themselves well, they will just keep practicing it without stopping.

And it wouldn't be worth it if they had succeeded in becoming professional gamblers, but they also became gamblers who were addicted to gambling. So those who want to become professionals must be careful and always pay attention to their self-control so that it doesn't weaken and they can continue to train their abilities.
This is a very fine line between gambling and addiction for any player, no matter how pro-gamer he is, but that’s why a professional is called such that he can control it. I am sure that there are professionals who, after many years of playing, broke down and fell into the abyss. But if he starts with low limits, then he will be able to rise again if the fall was not fatal and did not cause him severe moral suffering turning into chronic depression.
590  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risk management and responsible gaming on: December 22, 2023, 08:25:37 PM
Unemployment is getting higher over the years. And this is not even due to the lack of work in a particular place. Some people don't want to work the same way their parents did. All they need is to find money for food and not to be disturbed by anyone, after which they hope to win a big win in gambling without putting any effort into it. I don’t know how to explain it, they probably think that they are the chosen ones. The most important thing here is that they always need to look for money to play. If at the beginning they borrow from acquaintances and friends, then it can go even worse and the player will commit theft for the first time. Boundaries will be erased and at some point this will lead to very sad consequences.
Sometimes like you rightly stated, people are not unemployed because they are unable to secure a job, but most times is simply because the job isn't paying well enough or at some point they are bored with the job and want something else, several other reasons could be why some persons stay unemployed for a good period of time.

Some results to gambling because they think and believe that it's a very easy way to make money without having to stress so much and it avails them so much freedom with minimal working time, so these are some of the excuses that has kept some people jobless. Some literally have to forfeit looking for job and go into gambling full time and at this point they results in harmful habits such as stealing to fund their gambling activities which they wouldn't if they had gotten a job, they get addicted and even find it very difficult quitting.

When I was inexperienced in gambling, I went through all this. I wanted to play and earn money through gambling. Well, I didn’t understand then that this was just an ordinary stage that you need to go through in order to move on and understand a lot. Now I have a good idea of how the gambling industry works and who makes money from what and how.

For players who quit their jobs, this is only a temporary illusion, which over time will make absolutely all players understand and show them the place they deserve. The most interesting thing is that if I tell a novice gambler not to quit his job under any circumstances, he will laugh in my face and tell me so that I leave him alone and he doesn’t need advice.
591  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who says you can't be a millionaire in sports betting? on: December 22, 2023, 07:54:42 PM
It doesn’t happen that a player with a large audience publicly showed strategies that allow him to consistently make money on sports betting. This is just a bait for subscribers who, after using this, will end up leaving their money on this gambling platform that the influencer will advertise. If there is a profitable strategy, then no one will ever tell it, especially publicly, because it is a gold mine with which you can single-handedly earn an endless amount of money until this strategy is discovered and banned from use.

Some people specially vlogger who wanted to be famous and get lots of subscriber will not hesitate to share his own strategy.  Sharing his bet strategy will not do any competition because people are getting paid individually by the boookmaker thus sharing his strategy for the the upcoming matches won't hurt his chance of winning.

Probably the risk manager monitors such situations and has a lot of information, which will allow him to interrupt this so that the sports betting campaign does not go bankrupt.

Well, bookmaker have their own fail-safe strategy and that is limiting a bettors account if it keeps on winning.  I think it is monitored internally and tag accounts that keep on winning and limit their bet size to minimum in order to keep the sportsbook losses to minimum.
A streamer can give a really useful strategy at the beginning of his journey so that at least someone starts watching him. All other strategies will not only look profitable, but in reality they will not be so.

Regarding the account limit, I’ll add a little something I heard about recently. I heard that there are those who are engaged in buying accounts on which a lot of money has been lost. They are considered scammers because they participate in match fixing and place large bets on such purchased accounts. After the match, you can withdraw this money with a big win. If you do this on accounts that have won more than they lost, then most likely the gambling office with its security department will suspect this account of foul play and will not allow you to withdraw this money.
592  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who says you can't be a millionaire in sports betting? on: December 21, 2023, 09:24:13 PM
The casino will sponsor mostly the professional gamblers because their game will be seen by most of the public around them in the casino.The casino which sponsors them only for the benefit for the name and some followers of the professional gambler will do the bidding on that gambling site.Finally both the gamblers and the casino get money by just wearing the cap of that casino.The gamblers who had huge experience will get the chance from the casino and the average gamblers may not win the game.They also can’t afford the loss in the gambling sites.The money benefit for the average gambler will be low in all aspects.
This is more like a promotional strategy for some of these casinos because they are very much aware that some of these professionals have got good followers on their various social media platforms where they put out their successful gambling strategy to probably get the attention of the public into subscribing to their channel and increasing their followers.

Some of these casinos who have noticed these professional gamblers and are aware of their fan base will want to take advantage of these professional gamblers following base to make promotions and get more customers because most of these big gamblers are trusted by their followers due to the results they have seen over time so if they endorse or recommend any platform, they hop on it to take advantage of the bonuses and other benefits that may come with these sites. But then at both the professional gambler, their followers and the casino gets to profit at the end of the day but not a at the same time.
It doesn’t happen that a player with a large audience publicly showed strategies that allow him to consistently make money on sports betting. This is just a bait for subscribers who, after using this, will end up leaving their money on this gambling platform that the influencer will advertise. If there is a profitable strategy, then no one will ever tell it, especially publicly, because it is a gold mine with which you can single-handedly earn an endless amount of money until this strategy is discovered and banned from use.

Probably the risk manager monitors such situations and has a lot of information, which will allow him to interrupt this so that the sports betting campaign does not go bankrupt.
593  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Последний вагон на север on: December 21, 2023, 09:08:58 PM

Помню что рипл вы держите, но то что бесплатно не знал, напомните где его раздавали?)
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Да вот прям тут и раздавали. Была тема в англоязычном основном разделе, страниц на 80. Туда просто свой хрп адрес постишь и ждешь. Учитывая что на русском читать было нечего, все паслись там. Сам Гарлемхаус когда купил риппл  Grin сначала по миллиону прям со своего кошеля эйрдропал. Потом видимо жаба взыграла, по 200к начал раздавать, а потом как мультиакки пошли за рипплами (никто не занимался мультиводством - подписей не было, смысла мультить тоже), так сразу убавил до 40к сначала, потом 20к, затем 10к, и 5к наконец в которые уже я по неактивности непрошел по-видимому))) На активность тоже смотрели - но не было под ником activity вручную вычитывали. Раздача не просто так была, а они свой крутой кошелек выкатили, надо было опробовать. Не так что тупо тебе начислили и все, надо было с кем-то кредитную линию открыть. (Это как сейчас создать свой токен на ерц-20). Кошелек это позволял, минимум я выполнил, но дальше неасилил. Потом какие-то пидоры купили риппл, принуждали куц ароходить, я забил.  И с года 2015 по 2018 не юзал. Когда гарлемхаус его обратно выкупил (или хз, я запутался) короче я разобрался в кошеле, ноды новые вбил, шлюзы, линии открыл и отмыл нахуй от греха подальше эти рипплы через неотслеживаемый анонимный фиат  Grin Grin и обратно рипплами залил. Вот так и холджу.
ничего себе, вы получается суперолдовский ходлер рипла с большой буквы, впервые вижу таких людей в крипте) не будем считать что вы его продавали, а потом купили)
Ну то что надо было делать какие-то действия уже хорошо, а не просто раздали. Этого своего рода активности за которые вознаграждали, вы оказывается тестировщик.
Помню лет 5 назад кричали что некий японский банк или типа такого, переправляли в риплах с маленькой fee огромные суммы. И говорили вокруг что еще чутка и все банки начнут это использовать, а все верили, наивные были, молодые)

У Лайткоина есть одно огромное преимущество - он очень широко представлен на всякого рода обменниках. То есть это очень ликвидная монета.
Я очень давно хотел завести себе кошелёк Лайткоина, но завёл только вчера.
Скачал себе Litewallet. Почитал отзывы об этом кошельке, очень много отзывов откровенно ругательных, люди не могли оттуда крипту отправить. Меня это немного озадачило, ну я всё-таки решил его скачать и попробовать, всё-таки это практически официальный кошелёк.
У меня большие надежды, что негативные отзывы об этом кошельке обусловлено исключительно тем, что там постоянно проходит синхронизация. То есть ты открываешь кошелёк, и он начинает синхронизироваться до текущей даты. И синхронизируется достаточно долго (у Electrum всё побыстрее выходит). Я такое с кошельками для Monero встречал, там ещё более заковыристей было всё, сразу не разберёшься. Так что надеюсь, что это не кошелёк плохой, а просто пользователи до конца не разобрались, как всё работает. И пытались работать с не полностью  синхронизированным кошельком. В общем посмотрим.
Буду теперь ждать поступления лайткоинов. Заодно освою новый для себя кошелёк.
В Монеро я бы тоже с удовольствием получал вознаграждение. Если приноровиться, то это идеальная криптовалюта получается.
Давным давно устанавливал их кошель, а потом снес из-за того что не использовал его. И сейчас нет, хотя лайтом пользуюсь сейчас, когда бтс и эфир брыкаются со своими комиссиями, что сейчас не редкость.
594  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 21, 2023, 08:49:18 PM
Feeling stressed and disappointed if we lose a bet is normal, especially when we are watching, of course our mood will be ruined when watching a match. I also often do that, if I lose a bet, I feel lazy to watch the match. Being disappointed doesn't mean we are not ready to lose money in betting, but because we no longer have the passion to watch and for me that is a normal thing.

That's why now I usually won't bet anymore if my favorite team is playing, not without reason because I'm afraid of being disappointed. The favorite team loses, the bet also loses, so you are disappointed twice. Cheesy
Moreover, when we bet on our favorite teams, we sometimes go against the grain, betting not based on analysis but based on feelings.

Everyone has different views about this, to be honest, I'm a big fan of Chelsea, but because currently their performance is very inconsistent, I'm too lazy to place bets when they play, I prefer to bet on the matches they play. by Man City or other big teams, just like you I also don't want to lose twice (lose feelings and also betting money lol)
in sports betting, those who often win are those who use analysis (not feelings) when placing bets, because using feelings in betting will only have a bad impact on the results of the bet, so never bet with feelings, always use analysis.
I think that a true and loyal fan of his team does not need to bet on the match. This is completely unnecessary. A bet causes a skew of feelings between sincere ones, coming from the heart, and gambling ones, coming from a bet on a gambling site. If we make a big bet, it will cloud our mind, we will only want the result and the process of playing our favorite team may lose interest. It’s better not to experience this and just enjoy the game, enjoy every moment, worry, grab your head, applaud, thank the team, this is better than any bets. It's like a little life, it's priceless if you truly love your team. At least that's how I see it.
595  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risk management and responsible gaming on: December 21, 2023, 08:36:04 PM
Without realizing that a lot of gamblers fall into gambling addiction because the government lacks in providing job opportunities for these gamblers that's why they turn into gambling to find a source of income.
So in other words, are you now blaming lack of job opportunities as the reason why people gamble? Are you??. Because if that's the case, how about those who have a high paying job and yet still gambles, what have you to say about them? Example, the likes of "Michael Jordan, Kerry Packer, Tony Bloom, Bill Benter, Edward Thorp & Alan Woods" who are all self-made billionaires and millionaires, and yet still gambles and are proud to be known and associated with anything  gambling. Because the truth of the matter is that while some gambles for money, a decent percentage of people also gambles for the fun of the game.

When the talk about if lack of jobs is the reason for gambling to an extent it means the increase of numbers of gamblers can well be attributed to lack of jobs, loneliness of not having money to take to another activities for fun like visiting of recreational activities, swimming pools, site seeing etc. All the big names mentioned are not able to make up the huge numbers of gamblers, they are professional gamblers who most times they only want to keep their names afloat and keep being popular to get endorsements because if their names are not heard they keep losing business. They therefore catch fun by gambling but most gamblers making up the huge numbers of gamblers are doing gambling for the profit that they are looking for.
Unemployment is getting higher over the years. And this is not even due to the lack of work in a particular place. Some people don't want to work the same way their parents did. All they need is to find money for food and not to be disturbed by anyone, after which they hope to win a big win in gambling without putting any effort into it. I don’t know how to explain it, they probably think that they are the chosen ones. The most important thing here is that they always need to look for money to play. If at the beginning they borrow from acquaintances and friends, then it can go even worse and the player will commit theft for the first time. Boundaries will be erased and at some point this will lead to very sad consequences.
596  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 21, 2023, 08:25:35 PM
I would still differentiate between a successful player and a lucky one. Luck tends to run out and rarely lasts very long. Usually these are small moments. I would call a successful player a professional who has a clear strategy that allows him to have income over the long term. Of course, luck as an element of this can also affect success, but it is not of paramount importance.

I would call a successful player partially dependent, because success is achieved by working on oneself for a long time, and a professional will not be able to achieve this success if he does not experience passion and interest in the game. Therefore, I would call it a controlled dependence, when it is necessary the switch turns on, and when it is not necessary it turns off, if you understand what I mean.
I don't think that people who are successful in gambling rely on new skills to win. I still consider luck to be an essential factor. I agree that he has a very good skill strategy. He controls himself in gambling.

We cannot call successful people addicts, because sometimes he only plays a few games and he wins big in gambling. Only those who are successful and continuously gamble uncontrollably are considered addicted. But success also makes people forget that he was also addicted to gambling.
But successful gamblers also need skills, and they even learn new skills to be able to win. Even though learning new skills takes time, they are willing to spend the time to improve the skills needed to gamble to win. And we have to know that when he learns new skills, he can still control himself in gambling because he knows that it is important for him to maintain.

We also don't know for sure whether successful gamblers are among those who are addicted to gambling. But they don't seem to be addicted to gambling because they have better self-control than most gamblers, and they also know what to do if something doesn't go as they expected. Those who are successful in gambling can remain in control while gambling without having the desire to chase after winnings if they win because they know it will only make them forget themselves.
Yes, it reminds me of a professional athlete who needs to constantly stay in shape otherwise equally strong players will try to unseat him. Instead of training in the gym, a professional poker player needs training on a poker simulator with a detailed analysis of the hand or with a coach who will share subtle secrets with us. Also, for an athlete, muscle mass is important, while for a poker player, a flexible brain is important.

Yes, what matters to them is not winning in the first place, but how the process of achieving this occurs. This is the key idea. While an ordinary player has only winning in his head, and then everything else, such people will never be able to win.
597  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has gambling ever whispered you with different strategic prediction measures? on: December 20, 2023, 09:17:18 PM
Since gambling is most based on luck, who else has ever wanted to set your eyes close while you hits the slot or taking your predictions with the believe that.... "Your eye sight has failed you in number of times at when believing that taking your time and plays according to your heart desired based on sights satisfactories was to be the best for you"
Then probably sometimes you want to try a new trick by closing your eyes while picking your predictions or hitting the slots.

I also believe that gambling is really just more about luck when it comes to winning. Ignore the technique or trick they say; that's not true. How can you beat the house edge if they are in control of the game you are playing from the start?

That's why, if you experience a win, you should immediately decide to quit so that you don't waste the chance that you have a win to take home. Because that's how the house edge bites the gamblers who win: to make the gambler especially greedy, and when that happens, the money that the gambler has is sure to be scraped.
We must not forget that there are games such as poker in which a professional has emotional balance, calmness and mathematical thinking higher than 99.8% of players. He will beat everyone else in the long run and can make big money. But it is worth mentioning that this winning is at the expense of other players, while the casino takes the rake from each hand. Therefore, in general, it is not possible to beat the casino, but it is possible to learn how to make money using it. But a tiny number of people can do this. It’s better to try your luck at the jackpot occasionally and for a small amount and not stress even if you lose.
598  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are successful gamblers seen as addicts? on: December 20, 2023, 09:08:56 PM
Seems contradictory but theres also the possibility of just being lucky.  If continually gambling, never taking cash off the table and hoping for the streak to continue then that could be seen as a problem gambler.  Not knowing or being able to stop at logical points such as being tired or having already done that well that evening would suggest possibly a problem could develop not that it must do so.   Always try to bet less at times, I do know some people only want to bet more which is where it will lead to a problem I think stay regular and stick to some plan dont just react in a moment.
I would still differentiate between a successful player and a lucky one. Luck tends to run out and rarely lasts very long. Usually these are small moments. I would call a successful player a professional who has a clear strategy that allows him to have income over the long term. Of course, luck as an element of this can also affect success, but it is not of paramount importance.

I would call a successful player partially dependent, because success is achieved by working on oneself for a long time, and a professional will not be able to achieve this success if he does not experience passion and interest in the game. Therefore, I would call it a controlled dependence, when it is necessary the switch turns on, and when it is not necessary it turns off, if you understand what I mean.
599  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Биткойн-оптимизм. on: December 20, 2023, 09:00:25 PM
Вообще, я как-то читал, что оценщики, когда оценивают какой-то актив, используют три различных метода оценки. У первой криптовалюты вероятно пригоден только один из них (по себестоимости) - себестоимость одного Биткоина посчитать теоретически можно.
Хотя оплата, например, электроэнергии может осуществляться различными способами, в том числе по всяким коррупционным схемам. Поэтому я и написал про отсутствие чёткого фундаментала. Всё-таки одного расчёта себестоимости, на основе данных а потрачено электроэнергии, амортизации асиков, помещения, зарплате обслуживающего персонала всего этого мало, чтобы точно оценить ценность Биткоина.
Относительно сегодняшней ситуации с ценой Биткоина ...
Я сейчас, кстати часто вспоминаю высказывания Ратимова, о том, что направление движения тренда можно определить, просто посчитав, в какую сторону чаще колеблется цена.
Например, сейчас цена находится между 40.000 долларами США и 45.000 долларами США. В какую сторону она чаще отклоняется? Раньше, мне казалось что в сторону 40.000 долларов США, но сейчас оптимизма прибавилось.
Вроде бьётся в сторону 45.000 долларов США почаще. Может, этот уровень пробьём и пойдём к 50.000 долларов США. Такой получается оптимизм!
Майнеры хитрые и умные точно уже научились считать цену на похожее то что вы написали выше с их затратами и сравнение с ценой биткоина на данный момент.

Про куда чаще колеблется цена. На мой взгляд "ну такое", в любой момент может "колебнутся" так резко и в другую сторону что забудем все колебания и всякие рисования на графиках с фундаментом, а также все остальное.

Может это что-то вроде теста на зрелость для различных блокчейнов и если кто-то прогнется и изменит правила, то в дальнейшем хуже будет для него. Биток уже давно не для ежедневных транзакций, ну это как хлеб покупать за золото, поэтому высокая транза там не только отрицательный эффект имеет, но и обеспечивает приток майнеров, из-за хороших комиссий, что повышает устойчивость сети.  Лайт пока работает без сбоев и с дешевой комсой и так, вместо со спам записями. Хотя многие скептически относятся к лайту, но по факту крайне надежный и удобный вариант для переводов.

Точно как хлеб за золото, и золото никуда не делось оно есть и им многие хотят обладать, хотя по сути за него ничего не купишь. С биткоином может быть точно так же, будут хранить его как ценность. Но с золота хоть украшения делают, где то в производстве применяют, даже аннунакам собирают  Cheesy а вот польза от биткоина, который просто лежит без дела сомнительная.
Вам оптимизма не достает немножко. Я вот наоборот считаю золото куском бесполезного металла, просто исторически сложилось что в нем хранили сбережения. Золотые украшения молодежь продвинутую уже не интересует, вероятно только в арабских странах, у нас минимально с тенденцией к падению.

Владение биткоином, как владение цифровым активном, меня привлекает намного больше чем владение золотом, я бы даже уверенно сказал что золото я никогда не куплю с инвестиционной точки зрения, оставлю это для старшего поколения.
600  Local / Трейдеры / Re: Kucoin открывает торги on: December 20, 2023, 08:39:29 PM
Даже если здесь не 8%, а все 16% юзеров из США, то доход с них выйдет им боком!

 Не желаю Кукоину ничего плохого, но разве недавний пример с 4.4 млрд штрафа Бинанса ничему не научил? Ну-ну  Cool

Я бы сказал, что 8% - это много, учитывая юрисдикцию кукоина. По факту, это означает, что кукоин занимает третье место по посещаемости в сша, уступая только таким биржам, как coinbase(59%) и crypto.com(26%).
Мне вот интересно, неужели руководители кукоина не оценивают риски и не принимают во внимание печальный опыт других криптобирж.
Согласен, что бинанс - это наглядный пример, хотя они и ограничили доступ для резидентов сша еще задолго до того, как регуляторы окончательно взялись за них.
клиенты из сша очень ценные для криптобиржи в плане дохода на одного пользователя в среднем по сравнению с теми кто из снг. Американцы будут сливать на марже, покупать мем коины, продавать в убыток чаще других, после этого снова принесут деньги, пополнят через какую-либо карту на которой с них еще снимут комсу и так далее.

Раньше в бирже сильно не думали что потом это аукнется или думали но пошли на риск сознательно. Получат ли они за это? Определенно да, это лишь вопрос времени. Сейчас плывут по течению, ведь если запретят то на них сразу обратят внимание, а так тихо дают им торговать и ждут...
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